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Anyone got any ideas?
The iPhone Facebook app. is quick, slick, easy to use.
The one we've got is slow, jumpy, and just not as good in general!
You'd think by now SOMEBODY would have created atleast a mimic.
I got nothing to add except to say, yeah our app is crud.
I don't disagree that the Microsoft developed facebook app is behind the others. That said Opera loads facebook just fine, and it's the full site.
Then again I'll never understand the point of having dozens of apps that accomplish the same thing as loading up the already installed web browser and a bookmark.
I use the mobile Facebook pages at m.facebook.com via Opera 10, you can even choose between regular mobile and touch interface. It works for me!
Probably because the rest of the world buys into the hype put out by Apple.
It's like John Dillinger said when asked why he robbed banks...Because that is where the money is. Right or wrong, there are a TON of iPhones out there, and developers spend their time where "the money is".
I didn't buy into the iphone, simply because I've grown up with the WindowsCE
platform since the Dell Axim X5 days, so it was a natural transition to the Windows Moble/phone platform. That, and I want to customize the interface and functions the way I WANT TO, not how Steve Jobs says.
ditto man, I feel about the same.
mhurg said:
I use the mobile Facebook pages at m.facebook.com via Opera 10, you can even choose between regular mobile and touch interface. It works for me!
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How do you switch to touch interface?
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How do you switch to touch interface?
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Scroll to the bottom of the page and click "Touch Site", or just go to touch.facebook.com
Toleraen said:
I don't disagree that the Microsoft developed facebook app is behind the others. That said Opera loads facebook just fine, and it's the full site.
Then again I'll never understand the point of having dozens of apps that accomplish the same thing as loading up the already installed web browser and a bookmark.
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ditto, m.facebook.com is even better than iphone app IMO
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Probably because the rest of the world buys into the hype put out by Apple.
It's like John Dillinger said when asked why he robbed banks...Because that is where the money is. Right or wrong, there are a TON of iPhones out there, and developers spend their time where "the money is".
I didn't buy into the iphone, simply because I've grown up with the WindowsCE
platform since the Dell Axim X5 days, so it was a natural transition to the Windows Moble/phone platform. That, and I want to customize the interface and functions the way I WANT TO, not how Steve Jobs says.
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Anyone got any ideas?
The iPhone Facebook app. is quick, slick, easy to use.
The one we've got is slow, jumpy, and just not as good in general!
You'd think by now SOMEBODY would have created atleast a mimic.
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I can tell you this, the app for WM phones is way awesome. It has the same functionality as the iPhone app and the online browsers too. I think it runs smooth, updates quickly, and isn't loaded down with settings. Most of those settings for the other pages is just a bit of overkill. It's always true that the simpler the plan, the better the plan. You can always add to something if you need just a simple extra. You'll just have to write xml codes, if you don't know how and ur a bright person, you can probably figure out how to change those codes to add what you want or remove what you don't want, in a matter of days.
Plus, knowledge is power, I started out in this group just downloading and installing cabs. Now I write my own and have written weather apps alongside NRG that apparently have been stolen by HTC and WM6.xxx. The nifty weather on your screen that's flashy and self updating with a forecast and pretty icons for the weather conditions was 1st integrated by NRG, then Showaco and I kicked it up a knotch and finally duked it out with NRG only to realize that we were both making the same app, everyone and their brother jumped on the bandwagon so much that Microsoft and HTC "took" the ideas and integrated it into their ROM's. No worries, though, that's what this process is all about, learning how to create what is not already available
So, my advice in closing is to spend some time learning how to read xml, and then changing small bits, running the app, and seeing if it loads and does what you want, then slowly bit by bit, you will have an app that is PERFECT for your needs. It my seem impossible at 1st, but where there is a will there is a way, plus, hell you might end up writing something people will pay for or maybe HTC or Microsoft might offer u money for. Give it a shot.
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Anyone got any ideas?
The iPhone Facebook app. is quick, slick, easy to use.
The one we've got is slow, jumpy, and just not as good in general!
You'd think by now SOMEBODY would have created atleast a mimic.
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If it's not an iPhone, it doesn't exist.....
Well, that's the impression you'd get from all the companies that advertise on the TV,
"There's an app for that" - *&%%$%$£$$$T23312£"%!!!!!!!!!!
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Scroll to the bottom of the page and click "Touch Site", or just go to touch.facebook.com
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Or that yeah, thanks for pointing it out
I agree the app is rubbish, it's main problem is the speed. It spends way too long doing tasks that don't require much data transfer, and dosen't have a progress bar of any kind to explain it's slowness.
I don't like using opera because you have to log in every time and it has no integration with the rest of the system. Not to mention lack of fb chat. I'm not an iphone fanboy (TP2 ) but the iphone facebook is way better.
I have few apps that are restricted to work on wifi only.
Since 4G is unlimited and same fast as DSL (in my case) I'm looking for a solution to go around wifi only restriction.
Couldn't find any app that would do that.
Thanks for your help
x2......yea my friends who own that other phone by the rotten apple always throwing that app they have that tricks the phone into thinking its on wifi so they can do facetime as they call it
I have been trying to find the answer to this question myself. This is probably the only thing I have not seen on the android side that iphone was all over. There must be a solution to running WiFi only apps via 3G/4G.
What apps only work on WiFi? I've never seen one yet. (not that they don't exist, just curious) You may want to talk to the developers, seeing as any app is allowed to use 3G/4G by default.
Nova is what I was referring to. It's a gameloft title. The game is set up to allow for multiplayer marches via WiFi. But with 3g unrestrictor on the iPhone you could play via 3g. It was pretty sweet to drop some head shots while sitting in lax or dulles how do suggest I propose this functionality to the developers?
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also uploading to Youtube can only be done on Wifi
Evidently Grooveshark vip has this problem with hq songs as well. I knew I shouldn't have paid $30 for an app. I miss my 3g Unrestrictor.
rajah said:
Evidently Grooveshark vip has this problem with hq songs as well. I knew I shouldn't have paid $30 for an app. I miss my 3g Unrestrictor.
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whats so amazing about that app that its $30?!
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whats so amazing about that app that its $30?!
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The $30 is actually dirt cheap. It's a music streaming app with a library of about 22 million songs. The $30 is for an annual membership.
By comparison that's 3 months (or 2 for multiple devices) worth of Rhapsody which has 10 million songs. Although I have used Rhapsody and there are pros and cons to each. Rhapsody has more organized search results, but Grooveshark allows you to search other users playlists, which is where I am finding a lot of new great music.
Overall the amount of music you can find and the overall interface on Grooveshark is better. But I'm learning now that it's quite buggy in this latest 2.08 revision. I'm hoping for a quick move to 2.09 and hoping they add scrobbling to last.fm like their desktop/laptop version does.
Overall though it's awesome to have so much music on demand at all times.
^^ so you paid $30 for a membership to an app because the library of songs is bigger? so how long would it take you to listen to 22 million songs as opposed to 10 million?
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The $30 is actually dirt cheap. It's a music streaming app with a library of about 22 million songs. The $30 is for an annual membership.
By comparison that's 3 months (or 2 for multiple devices) worth of Rhapsody which has 10 million songs. Although I have used Rhapsody and there are pros and cons to each. Rhapsody has more organized search results, but Grooveshark allows you to search other users playlists, which is where I am finding a lot of new great music.
Overall the amount of music you can find and the overall interface on Grooveshark is better. But I'm learning now that it's quite buggy in this latest 2.08 revision. I'm hoping for a quick move to 2.09 and hoping they add scrobbling to last.fm like their desktop/laptop version does.
Overall though it's awesome to have so much music on demand at all times.
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i got muzikcube for free and can stream my entire 1TB music library
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^^ so you paid $30 for a membership to an app because the library of songs is bigger? so how long would it take you to listen to 22 million songs as opposed to 10 million?
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I loved the band "The Grays". Grooveshark had it, Rhapsody did not. I've noticed that for many other bands/acts and radio station releases too. 22 million means they're more likely to have what you want to hear.
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i got muzikcube for free and can stream my entire 1TB music library
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Good for you. My cable is flakey and for some reason dyndns keeps dropping out on my NAS. Believe me when I say I tried to go a similar route. But I don't want to leave my computer always on (thus the NAS) and I'm lazy and my music collection is a MESS! What's an id3 tag anyway. But really I like the radio function. Its like having Pandora rolled into it. And I love searching through other people's music collection. It's like the old school days of going to Top 10 Records, except everything is paid for already! I like.
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To get back on topic, is there really no CDMA 3G workaround to fool Sprint and Grooveshark (or the EVO itself) into thinking you are on wifi when you are only using 3g?
This is an age old problem that bad programmers always tend to implement. If a feature, method, resources may not exist one should check for what may be missing without assumption. In this case they have assumed that anything but wifi has enough bandwidth (resource) when it could obviously be incorrect.
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Nova is what I was referring to. It's a gameloft title. The game is set up to allow for multiplayer marches via WiFi. But with 3g unrestrictor on the iPhone you could play via 3g. It was pretty sweet to drop some head shots while sitting in lax or dulles how do suggest I propose this functionality to the developers?
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don't see that in the market. Also rajah, why not just use Pandora? Works fine for me. Free streaming music.
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don't see that in the market. Also rajah, why not just use Pandora? Works fine for me. Free streaming music.
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Most Gameloft games, (and HD ones especially) can only be bought straight through Gameloft's site. Its not too bad. Nova is $5 for the HD version (read: the kind that runs on the Evo). You could have it billed through Sprint if you look for their wap-like apk file. Definitely look up Let's Golf 3d. Its free for us Evo users . That's how I got their gateway apk, which takes you to the mobile store and you can buy games on your Sprint bill.
Nova is a fun game, but its usually buggy over wifi, so I never thought to try it on anything slower. Now that you mention it, all the Gameloft games require wifi, huh? I hate those kinds of restrictions. I wish you all luck in finding a 3G unrestrictor.
Any luck?
I'm freakin dying to play Modern Combat 4 online with 4G on my Galaxy S3!! Has anybody figured this mod out yet? I'm willing to rewrite and modify some code for this one you guys! And also, if iphones can run android, why can't Androids run iOS???? Is I possible?
iPhones can't run android....the system itself it different
Maybe iPhones can run android on an emulator, but that's completely different. Android on iOS is like trying to run a desktop EXE on your Android. Two completely different architectures.
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Widows desktop EXE IS possible on Android!
Android is a very open source OS and can be modified create custom ROMS and install other Operating systems.
Such as: Windows Mobile, Windows RT, Windows XP, Full Ubuntu OS, and Ubuntu Mobile (coming soon)
Here is a post on an HTC HD2 running on Windows RT:
http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/htc-hd2-refuses-to-die-now-runs-windows-rt/
Here is another link to a tutorial on how to install and run Wimdows XP on Android:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUE-gJmcGKk
Here's another tutorial on bow to install the full Ubuntu OS on android:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_diU7i7Z0
Here is a heavily modified custom iOS ROM running on an Android phone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LrVLMyINhk
And also, here is a video on some Chinese guy running iOS on an old HTC Android Phone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IOEqpJtr_E
But finally, here is a link to a page that some guys are making this project called iEmu and are cooking up an emulator boot loader that will boot iOS on different devices.
http://m.geek.com/geekdotcom/#!/ent...un-ios-on-android-or,4e668d9bd298d13d03000004
So IT IS yet to be possible (if the iEmu project succeeds) to run (or emulate) iOS on an Android devices sir. But back to question A:
Is Modern Combat 4 online over 4G possible yet?????
1st off this is not intended to be a flaming / bashing thread. If you want to do that please go elsewhere; I'm sure the vibrant forums will welcome you. If a MOD feels this belongs somewhere else, please move it.
I have been a long time WM user and recently switched to android for the past year. I am offering my take on WP7 on the pros on cons.
Interface - Finally something completely new and wonderful. Microsoft really did hit a homerun on trying to make information at a glance approach. Mail and search apps look beautiful. I thing missing, being able to quickly jump to apps in the app menu.
Lack of Landscape Support- For as great as the UI is I am shocked at the lack of landscape support. The start menu, app menu, nor Zune have lanscape support. You can not even refresh a webpage or type in a website if you are in landscape mode. Calling this anything other than an epic "FAIL" by microsoft is sugar coating it. Especially when the HD7 and Surround beg to be in landscape mode with their kick stands.
Browser - As expected from an IE browser it is pretty good. I already mentioned the lack of landscape support which is really frustrating but there is something else that gets under my skin more. Web pages do not resize to fit the screen when you zoom in. This was/is almost a deal breaking for me honestly. I love the organization of having all the buttons at the bottom and the interface is stunning but you lose way to many options in landscape mode. You can't even access favorites without first going back to portrait. MS, this NEEDS to be addressed soon. The browser is the main feature of smartphones now.
Zune - Wonderful if you have a Zune Pass. Honestly it was one of the main reasons why I bought this phone. I expected it to be awesome and it didn't disappoint. That being said they need to add a Play Now option to the market songs. When I'm browsing the market sometimes I want to queue songs and the Add to Playlist option makes sense but how could you leave out Play now? Seriously?
Another thing I don't like is I can not fast forward to a certain spot in a movie. Video files can be hours long, why should I have to hold the fast forward button to get to the point I'd like. Let me hit the progress bar and then use the rewind / fast forward buttons for getting to the exact point.
USB Storage Device- glaring admission, but I can kind of see why. It helps stop piracy, but I loved being able to hook my fuze / tilt 2 / nexus 1 / vibrant to my car stereo and play the music I had downloaded on my phone. I know I could get an audio cable and do the same, but while driving it is so much easier to use the radio head unit to control music rather than your phone. I knew this when getting in bed with WP7, but that doesnt mean I still can't miss it.
Bluetooth- for music works just like it should. however it will not play the audio from video files threw bluetooth. It keeps coming out of my phone's main speakers and there is no way to get into the bluetooth profiles to see if something is wrong. VERY ANNOYING MS. get to fixing it.
People- Wonderful. Could anyone ask anymore? I gave it my facebook and gmail accounts and I didn't have to worry about any contacts not showing up. Love the Facebook updates also.
Dailer- No smart dialer? This used to even be in my old wizard by default. How it get left out is completely beyond me.
Announced fixes- Flash, Copy & Paste, Turn by Turn navigation can't come soon enough but I am glad microsoft acknowledged they needed them.
Local Outlook Support- I knew this before hand, but I am in the crowd that says MS needs to add this ability.
Overall- I bought my HD7 without a contract and I am pretty sure i will NOT be returning it. I love my HD7 and WP7, however this OS isn't entirely complete. That being said was iOS and Android complete when they came out? To even suggest that is laughable. I can not wait for microsoft to release all the fixes for this OS because when it does it will be a powerhouse.
I will not buy that this phone is for dumbsmart phone users. I probably done more with my phones than 95% of android users who will do nothing by bash WP7 and i honestly see this for ALL users. It helps bring the powerhouse experience in an easier way without being tied down as much as iOS.
Why not just post in one of the other 50 threads? Now people will be copy-pasting replies from those into this one.
I did notice the lack of landscape mode in IE. I think that was the only thing that made me go WTF when I used the HD7.
However, the keyboard is so good that I don't think it even mattered that much.
I guess with a 3.7-8" screen it can be a bit annoying, but on anything 4" or bigger it didn't strike me as a big deal beyond the initial shock of it not being there.
Also, lots of people dont' seem to know the difference between an Operating System and an Application.
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Why not just post in one of the other 50 threads? Now people will be copy-pasting replies from those into this one.
I did notice the lack of landscape mode in IE. I think that was the only thing that made me go WTF when I used the HD7.
However, the keyboard is so good that I don't think it even mattered that much.
I guess with a 3.7-8" screen it can be a bit annoying, but on anything 4" or bigger it didn't strike me as a big deal beyond the initial shock of it not being there.
Also, lots of people dont' seem to know the difference between an Operating System and an Application.
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Those threads became nothing but flaming / bashing threads. I thought it would be a good idea to try to get away from that.
Also a core application can be considered part of the OS. If you can not uninstall it, it is part of the OS.
I thought it was annoying not being able to get to the address bar with all that screen space.
I don't know about you guys but my Surround goes into landscape mode IE just fine...
The only thing I don't like is lack of landscape in marketplace and Zune...
also if you want a nice photo editor, Thumba photo editor for $.099 is awesome!
EDIT: Oh i see. I can't believe I have to switch to portrait to type a URL!! WTF microsoft!
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Browser - As expected from an IE browser it is pretty good. I already mentioned the lack of landscape support which is really frustrating but there is something else that gets under my skin more. Web pages do not resize to fit the screen when you zoom in. This was/is almost a deal breaking for me honestly. I love the organization of having all the buttons at the bottom and the interface is stunning but you lose way to many options in landscape mode. You can't even access favorites without first going back to portrait. MS, this NEEDS to be addressed soon. The browser is the main feature of smartphones now.
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Overall I agree with just about everything you said. Regarding the browser, I've noticed that certain areas of webpages are zoomed in more than others. For instance, on xda, the text of people's posts is HUGE compared to the buttons such as User CP, etc. at the top of the page. What I've found is a double tap in my area of interest on a page will zoom the page so that ONLY my area of interest is approriately sized. Then, when I want to switch to another part of the page, I double tap there and the page will resize, and so on. The text does not dynamically reflow a la Android, but I think it's a pretty usable system.
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Dailer- No smart dialer? This used to even be in my old wizard by default. How it get left out is completely beyond me.
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There is voice dialing in WP7 not sure what you mean by smart dialer???
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There is voice dialing in WP7 not sure what you mean by smart dialer???
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By going to the dailer and being able to spell "MOM" for example on the keys and it would automatically come up with the number for that contact.
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Lol, what? No, it's not. It's a stock application distributed with the OS. It is not part of the OS.
By the Logic people can say "Android is buggy because the GMail client is buggy." or "Windows Mobile is buggy because the Opera Browser HTC bundled with the HD2 is buggy." or "Linux is full of bugs because the KDE in that distro is buggy as hell."
Every OS comes with a set of stock applications, but they are just that, and are usually updatable independent of installing a new kernel or driver stack on the device.
In any case, I've already said I agree that the lack of landscape mode is an issue.
I just wanted to make that distinction, because lots of people on this forum are incapable of doing it themselves.
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Lol, what? No, it's not. It's a stock application distributed with the OS. It is not part of the OS.
By the Logic people can say "Android is buggy because the GMail client is buggy." or "Windows Mobile is buggy because the Opera Browser HTC bundled with the HD2 is buggy." or "Linux is full of bugs because the KDE in that distro is buggy as hell."
Every OS comes with a set of stock applications, but they are just that, and are usually updatable independent of installing a new kernel or driver stack on the device.
In any case, I've already said I agree that the lack of landscape mode is an issue.
I just wanted to make that distinction, because lots of people on this forum are incapable of doing it themselves.
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I still completely disagree with you. Froyo for Android made plenty of browser updates so would you say that wasn't a OS update?
I like most people consider stock apps part of the OS
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I still completely disagree with you. Froyo for Android made plenty of browser updates so would you say that wasn't a OS update?
I like most people consider stock apps part of the OS
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Agree. Basically system is made of apps.
If email app built into it is buggy, we can say OS is buggy.
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I still completely disagree with you. Froyo for Android made plenty of browser updates so would you say that wasn't a OS update?
I like most people consider stock apps part of the OS
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Doesnt meam ur right and most people are ignorant in os design and the diff between an os and an app distributed with said os.
Obviously...
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Doesnt meam ur right and most people are ignorant in os design and the diff between an os and an app distributed with said os.
Obviously...
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then you are going to have to disagree with almost all people. This isn't a techy vs jock debate. These are apps which are built into the os and therefore part of the os.
But anyway this thread is meant for objective evaluation of WP7. If you want to continue this debate we should continue it somewhere else.
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By going to the dailer and being able to spell "MOM" for example on the keys and it would automatically come up with the number for that contact.
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You can use search in the people hub for something very similar. Admittedly not an exact substitute but it works well enough for me.
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I have been a long time WM user and recently switched to android for the past year. I am offering my take on WP7 on the pros on cons.
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Good post
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USB Storage Device- glaring admission, but I can kind of see why. It helps stop piracy, but I loved being able to hook my fuze / tilt 2 / nexus 1 / vibrant to my car stereo and play the music I had downloaded on my phone.
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How does this increase piracy? If the files you buy on Zune are locked down they can still do this even if there is a common store of files accessible as usb mass storage. Either by drm or by using isolated storage for those files.
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Local Outlook Support- I knew this before hand, but I am in the crowd that says MS needs to add this ability.
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If you do it this way, then you are working with two sets of data (email, calendar, tasks, contacts, etc.) neither of which is guaranteed to be up to date. I don't see why people think this is preferable to a server-based system.
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I will not buy that this phone is for dumb smart phone users.
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Hopefully this will be true; I will keep my fingers crossed. Currently, as I see it, they are targeting people who don't understand what files are, and would be confused by files, and who believe that music consists of songs arranged by artists into albums. I.e. the dumb mass market.
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How does this increase piracy? If the files you buy on Zune are locked down they can still do this even if there is a common store of files accessible as usb mass storage. Either by drm or by using isolated storage for those files.
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The cintent u purchase in zune have no drm..... The piracy statement is legit.
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though given you just purchased for your zune account, you can then access it on zune desktop, and burn discs from there. so no necessarily correct.
however, what i think of a common storage area is a good idea. just have it so that the pictures, videos, music, documents are in a folder view for when you plug the phone into your PC. it would really only require a bit of mapping within the OS to make it look like a storage unit. Even if it was just more restricted down to just the documents section, that's still something. better than nothing imo as i don't have access to skydrive at work. but aye, i can live with it, it's not going to make me want to return the phone.
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though given you just purchased for your zune account, you can then access it on zune desktop, and burn discs from there. so no necessarily correct.
however, what i think of a common storage area is a good idea. just have it so that the pictures, videos, music, documents are in a folder view for when you plug the phone into your PC. it would really only require a bit of mapping within the OS to make it look like a storage unit. Even if it was just more restricted down to just the documents section, that's still something. better than nothing imo as i don't have access to skydrive at work. but aye, i can live with it, it's not going to make me want to return the phone.
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Its 2001, people pirate with digital media. Cd piracy may still be hip in the third world, but I haven't operated a cd player in years (or used my computer to play one), much less bought or burned one.
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Its 2001, people pirate with digital media. Cd piracy may still be hip in the third world, but I haven't operated a cd player in years (or used my computer to play one), much less bought or burned one.
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how about an MP3 cd? to play in your car? to lend to a friend? or your USB stick? as soon as it's available on zune desktop you have a copy of it... there is plenty ways around it. i'm not saying you should do it, i'm saying the possibilities are there.
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The cintent u purchase in zune have no drm..... The piracy statement is legit.
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If the files are not DRMed, and Microsoft wants to protect them, either it can DRM the files, or it can keep them in isolated storage. The existence of common storage doesn't exclude isolated storage.
Be aware that T-Mobile is now checking Browser User Agent strings and is apparently blocking those with various things in them -- "Cyanogen" being, apparently, one of them.
Guess how I found this out?
Opera and similar will still work (of course) but this is a particularly-evil thing for them to be doing, as it now means that if you develop up something you're going to have to take some care to EXACTLY match a stock browser ID or it's likely you'll get bounced.
They've used this trick for quite some time to detect tethering, but now it appears they're just denying PHONE strings that are perfectly legitimate and from actual PHONE firmware if it's not theirs.
I'm not sure what's happening but I was able to not only search for it but browse the cyanogenmod.com website. That's serious censorship stuff if TMO is actively blocking access selectively like that.
No no you're missing the point.
Your browser sends a "User Agent" string that the web server can use to customize for the sort of device you are. This is why some sites come up with a "mobile" interface optimized for a smaller screen.
Well, carriers can intercept that -- that's how they detect tethering if you go around their "tethering manager" garbage, incidentally. AT&T has done this for a long time and T-Mobile started doing it a few months ago.
As of this evening I got an error while testing a CM7 build on another device stating that my browser agent string was invalid. The only thing odd about it is that it identified as a T-Mobile device with a Cyanogen firmware build on it, and they refused to let it go through. Opera of course works as do other browsers, but the stock Android one was refused.
Very naughty, in my opinion, and this is going to make custom firmware a bit more fun as developers and such will have to "spoof" an official T-Mobile browser UA or they're likely to find it doesn't work at all.
download Miren browser, and move on.
Well yes, other browsers work fine. But this is just another kick in the nuts from the "T".
Genesis3 said:
Well yes, other browsers work fine. But this is just another kick in the nuts from the "T".
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Kick 'em right back in the nuts with the APN workaround.
Ok I dont understand your logic.
You can download Dolphin browser on a stock phone, and change the user agent to desktop, iphag, or custom...
This is a silly post because it dosnt mean youre rooted, tethering, or have a custom rom.
As for T-mobile governing you, its their equipment (switches, access points...) they can do what they want basically. We are here to find ways arround that.
Point being that it's just going to be another thing that people will have to deal with, and its pointless from a carrier perspective.
I can see them looking for the common laptop and desktop stuff and screaming "Tether!" if they find it, but barring an obvious mobile browser because it's not one of "theirs" is rather foolish -- and annoying.
tzbigworm said:
download Miren browser, and move on.
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Am I the only one who can't find Miren in the Android Market anymore? Weird.
fbueller said:
Am I the only one who can't find Miren in the Android Market anymore? Weird.
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It seems to be gone now. Search for black Miren browser on Google. That's what I did and the black version is awesome.
This does not happen for me I'm the self alpha cm rom. I can get to any website just fine. Using the stock cm browser. I even installed cm on another device. It still works.
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I just had an issue with this for the first time a day ago.
Using opera, I tried to visit my bank and kept getting blocked/redirected to a wifi tethering uosell page. Also, tethering stopped working.
Rebooted, opera is working again, but no wireless or usb tethering.
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No no you're missing the point.
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Actually I do understand the need to prevent unauthorized tethering. My comment was pointed directly at the censoring of specific websites which appears to be happening to the OP. TMO has the right to block unauthorized tethering but to wall off specific sites is an entirely different animal. Sorry I wasn't clear in my original reply.
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When doing about:debug in the stock browser on 2.3.6, I couldn't even find the setting to change the UA string. I think they removed it?
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When doing about:debug in the stock browser on 2.3.6, I couldn't even find the setting to change the UA string. I think they removed it?
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It is about:useragent in Samsung phones.
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Eh this is lame. T-Mobile is doing some really lame things now.
Can someone tell me how to replicate this? I am on a custom ROM and can browse Cyanogenmod.com website just fine.
I use Opera Mobile and Firefox Mobile with desktop user agent strings and have no problems. Then again I haven't tethered in months.
To those that think webpages are being censored you're misunderstanding; when you browse on a mobile device there is a little bit of code that tells the webpage what kind of device you're on and what software its running. This is called a user agent. Tmobile has started blocking devices on custom software (read roms) from accessing the web at all. This will only happen on roms that have had the user agent modified for example cyanogenmod.
It is not a censorship issue its a net neutrality issue.
Sent from my Hercules with xda Premium.
that doesn't sound likely at ALL.. it sounds more like a glitch than anything else.
Anyone else give this a try? Design is one of the worst I've ever seen but tab swiping is smooth as silk.
Attach the xap if you have it, i'm curious
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Attach the xap if you have it, i'm curious
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http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/e76acaa3-759f-4e37-81e5-f43dea7a8e26
It's in the Marketplace.
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It's in the Marketplace.
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it's good for being in early stages.
How do they get away with calling this 'Chromium'? Don't think Google would be too happy.
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How do they get away with calling this 'Chromium'? Don't think Google would be too happy.
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Agree, it's really stupid or just a kind of "puffery". It's WebBrowser class (Pocket IE wrapper) based and far away from the real Chromium engine.
it's a good work
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http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/e76acaa3-759f-4e37-81e5-f43dea7a8e26
It's in the Marketplace.
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For i don't know what reason i couldn't find it from the phone, only when i searched the market form the desktop. But yeah, it works now.
First thing. The design is really poor, the page view area is small, the loading is pretty slow. But the worst thing is the keyboard that opens above some option buttons. If you type fast and without looking at the keyboard, you might push the buttons below instead of space. I know i did.
Second thing. I hate the name. It has nothing to do with Chromium.
Third thing. The swipe to switch tabs is interesting, but the way the tabs are displayed eats too much screen real estate.
Fourth thing. This are just my opinions.
good app for the development stage
please attache xap file here.
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Here is the XAP file - this is the latest build, I have not updated the marketplace version yet.
Still curious - why did you call your app "Chromium"?
P.S. BTW, better to move this thread to Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games, ask mods.
Renamed
It has been renamed to Kromi, app id is: eea60df6-faa9-4323-af06-774259cd6825
Not sure how to find it with the app id, but searching for Kromi yields no results...
The Internet Explorer is better than "Chromium".
It´s faster and looks better.
Please make it look better
Opera Mobile is nice and for me the only alternative
I think this app is in Bazaar now.
It's now bad for a beta, can fullscreen the browser to hide the weird tab interface, and tab switching is the best I have seen on WP7.
There is no bookmark or homepage setting as of yet though, and you cannot press to open context menu (such as open in new tab) but it's still one of the best WP7 browsers around
Is this the same as the one available in bazaar?