Hey,
Today I had the fortune of pulling my phone out infront of a lifelong apple devotee, he went crazy.. he 1st said OMG!! is that the desire! I want that phone soooo bad, can I have a look please.
Before this phone came along he always claimed that nothing was better than the iphone even though I said ofcourse there is.. but now it seems he can't resist what the desire has to offer.. I'm pretty darn sure anybody who uses the iphone would water at the mouth when they get a look at what the desire can do..
Only thing is, I'm not too keen on how the desire looks, I love how the EVO looks and cannot wait to get my hands on one.
Yer good feeling, same with my dad, had the iphone since it came out, every year he upgrades, seen my phone and was like oo i want it, but hes an idiot and paid £60 for tom tom, then £100 for a gps /talk enchancer thing for the car, so he wants keep with iphone so he doesnt waste £160. LOSER!
Haha, exactly same situation with my mate who has a 3GS - Even went as far as to say mine was better! Get in
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I know this is the EVO and not the desire in the desire thread (just posted it as I said before I prefer how the evo looks over the desire).. but what on earth is that dull looking thing next to it?
Fatriff said:
I know this is the EVO and not the desire in the desire thread (just posted it as I said before I prefer how the evo looks over the desire).. but what on earth is that dull looking thing next to it?
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now now people.. we all know that they just want to justify their purchase and make themselves feel better having invested so much in a phone that is obviously inferior in performance. it is a psychological condition in fact.
We don't need to be the same.
I would go for the Iphone any time if there wasn't this price difference and EVO is way to big for me.
I have the Desire now. Well its ok but the speakers and microfone suck so bad, that its not funny at all.
Balos said:
I would go for the Iphone any time if there wasn't this price difference and EVO is way to big for me.
I have the Desire now. Well its ok but the speakers and microfone suck so bad, that its not funny at all.
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Really? The Desire beats the Iphone in pretty much every aspect, it's like you'd choose a Lada over a Mercedes (an anolgy often used by Apple users
Balos said:
I would go for the Iphone any time if there wasn't this price difference and EVO is way to big for me.
I have the Desire now. Well its ok but the speakers and microfone suck so bad, that its not funny at all.
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+1 for speaker, and also for real multitouch, 3d hardware acc (my son prefer to play 3d game in my wife's iphone3gs than in desire because of that, which is good for me.... ), and it seems the graphic in some applications looks better in iphone, i.e. soundhound and layar looks better in iphone than desire.
other than those things.. i prefer desire. hopefully froyo will be available soon for us.
boge said:
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The Desire has 3D hardware acceleration! The issue with games is that most of them are interpreted Java applications, and that most do not download supplementary data to the SD card which so they have to be small.
The gaming situation on the Desire will get better soon, because:
a) The latest version of the NDK supports OpenGL ES 2.0. This means that the important parts of the game can be coded up as native code.
b) The JIT in Froyo will speed up the non-native parts of the game.
c) The ability to official install apps to SD card will allow games developers to write games without requiring supplementary, separate, downloads to SD card.
I rather expect a gaming explosion on Android once Froyo becomes mainstream.
Regards,
Dave
It really depends what they use their iPhone for. Not all of them are blind fanboys.
They might like to listen to music on the way to work or use speakerphone regularly. Perhaps they don't like checking their battery level constantly, and where that "cool" app I been using to help me sleep better. Heck! They might even prefer the stability of a closed system (heathens!). And let's be honest, if we weren't all sick of seeing it millions of times in the street, the iphone looks better.
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It really depends what they use their iPhone for. Not all of them are blind fanboys.
They might like to listen to music on the way to work or use speakerphone regularly. Perhaps they don't like checking their battery level constantly, and where that "cool" app I been using to help me sleep better. Heck! They might even prefer the stability of a closed system (heathens!). And let's be honest, if we weren't all sick of seeing it millions of times in the street, the iphone looks better.
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I agree with that. I think both Android (HTC) and Apple are leaders and you can't make a mistake with any of them. What I like on iPhone is if you buy it when it comes to shops, you know you will have 1 year latest phone and you know that phone will recieve updates for longer time period than you will have it (3 years).
Currently I like Desire more than 3GS. We will see what will offer 4G. But I know something - next time I will buy android phone, it will be google branded, because it will recieve updates sooner.
If you think the iPhone can't do anything, it's a clear indication you've never owned one. Yes, it has to be hacked, but so does Android in most countries, since Google otherwise won't let us get the good software.
I have a HTC Desire and an iPhone 3GS 32GB, both hacked of course. Amongst other things, I can use my iPhone as music player with an IrDA remote (using universal cradle), I can stream video podcasts to the TV and use it as a wifi router no problems at all. No doubt the Desire will be able to do some nice stuff in the future too, but it's simply wrong to think it's way better than the iPhone.
I'm glad there's sensible discussion in this thread and not blind fanboy talk.
The hardware of the desire beats the iPhone (apart from the multitouchness), but that's expected seeing as the 3GS is almost a year old. But in quality of software, I have to say the iphone wins hands down. The keyboard, music player and browser are far better on the iPhone, and the sad thing is that they have been unchanged since the iphone came out in 2007, yet no other phone is as good.
And the app store is better than the android market, more apps and of far higher quality. (Compare the facebook app on both phones)
But still the price difference isn't worth it tbh
I think they both acutally can do the same. It's more about the presentation of things: f.e. the homescreens are much better on android. But Iphone OS is much more mature compared to Android. I think from Android 2.3, we can talk of a grown up android-OS and can compete it with iphone OS.
Iphone OS is still more efficient. We need a 1ghz processor to handle the 3D games. The iphone has got only around 500mhz (or less) to be able to pull out nice games.
The biggest problems imo about the iphone OS is that everything has to be running as seperate apps. On the desire, many things are connected to each other, like facebook and twitter. Sending mails, copy/pasting, sharing etc...
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has got only around 500mhz (or less) to be able to pull out nice games.
The biggest problems imo about the iphone OS is that everything has to be running as seperate apps. On the desire, many things are connected to each other, like facebook and twitter. Sending mails, copy/pasting, sharing etc...
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Things aren't as separate on the iPhone as you make out, in fact the iPhone does some things like copy and paste a lot better. On the iPhone you can copy any text from any app (third party or stock) and paste in in any text field in any app (third party or stock).
On android I cant even copy text out of an email!
and you get some nice things on the iPhone like the ability to share videos by youtube, mms, email etc.
But yeah your point about facebook and twitter and stuff being quite separate is true, but there are rumours this stuff is gonna be put in OS4.
Im sorry but the iPhone browser better than the Desire browser?? On what planet exactly?? I hate mobile sites (many of which are iPhone optimised, or in other words.. lame). For desktop sites the Desire browser destroys the iPhone browser.
The iPhone screen is pathetic. Small, dull and painfully low res.
The iPhone itself is terribly old fashioned looking now. There is nothing stylish about it. It just looks plain old and when i first saw one i was surprised how large it actually seemed. It seems larger than a touch HD despite being almost the same size and even the HD2 seems nicer proportioned despite being much bigger. The problem is the screen which is lost in the frame because its so small.
OK there are some areas that the iphone wins, but they are nothing like numerous enough to make up for its extreme shortcomings.
rovex said:
Im sorry but the iPhone browser better than the Desire browser?? On what planet exactly?? I hate mobile sites (many of which are iPhone optimised, or in other words.. lame). For desktop sites the Desire browser destroys the iPhone browser.
The iPhone screen is pathetic. Small, dull and painfully low res.
The iPhone itself is terribly old fashioned looking now. There is nothing stylish about it. It just looks plain old and when i first saw one i was surprised how large it actually seemed. It seems larger than a touch HD despite being almost the same size and even the HD2 seems nicer proportioned despite being much bigger. The problem is the screen which is lost in the frame because its so small.
OK there are some areas that the iphone wins, but they are nothing like numerous enough to make up for its extreme shortcomings.
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I think you'll find the unanimous verdict of almost every tech site is that the iPhone has the best web browser available on a mobile device.
As for the screen, yes the desire is far better (apart from the lack of true multitouch and the way over saturated colours) but I'm talking about the browser.
And the iPhone almost always displays the full website, if it doesn't then there will be a link to take you to the main website.
And there are good things about iPhone specific websites, for example almost all internet video (eg BBC iPlayer website) is viewable on the iPhone as websites have converted their videos to iPhone friendly formats. Us android users won't be able to view these videos until flash finally makes its way to our handsets, and the performance in terms of battery life (adobe themselves quote 3 hours!) and frame rate will be terrible compared to the iPhone specific versions that you can access on an iPhone.
But yeah I agree with you on the look of the iPhone, the screen does look out of proportion in my opinion.
I have a desire, my wife has a 3GS.
I would take the Desire browser over the iPhone, its faster by a good distance imo.
Social Networking, Messaging, IM I would take the desire over the iPhone.
I am in Ireland so iPhone wins the appstore contest hands down, as we have no andorid paid apps here. (Yes theres ways round it, but lets compare stock to stock)
The one area the iPhone absolutely anihilates the Desire is media playback, the Desire is frankly **** at video compared to the iPhone and laggs behind on music playback too. This is criminal given the Desire has the hardware to support multiformat playback of up to 720p video.
If you use your phone as a phone, for mobile web, for social networking etc, the Desire wins hands down.
If you want an all in one device and watch a couple of episodes of TV a day on the commute to work, then the iPhone is for you.
I use my desire for the former, and have an iPod touch for when I am travelling etc. and wish to enjoy music, TV shows and movies.
Yeh I agree, I was hoping my desire would replace my iPod touch fully, but it struggles too. I could stream every video and every song from my computer to my iPod in any format as there are various apps on the app store that do this, but there is not a single app on android that can do it. I could also watch live TV from tvcatchup.com, again something not possible on android.
samac92 said:
I think you'll find the unanimous verdict of almost every tech site is that the iPhone has the best web browser available on a mobile device.
As for the screen, yes the desire is far better (apart from the lack of true multitouch and the way over saturated colours) but I'm talking about the browser.
And the iPhone almost always displays the full website, if it doesn't then there will be a link to take you to the main website.
And there are good things about iPhone specific websites, for example almost all internet video (eg BBC iPlayer website) is viewable on the iPhone as websites have converted their videos to iPhone friendly formats. Us android users won't be able to view these videos until flash finally makes its way to our handsets, and the performance in terms of battery life (adobe themselves quote 3 hours!) and frame rate will be terrible compared to the iPhone specific versions that you can access on an iPhone.
But yeah I agree with you on the look of the iPhone, the screen does look out of proportion in my opinion.
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You're joking right? You go by what a "tech" site says? The majority of them are bought out by apple to promote their product.
iPhone = Slower, "checkerboard" scrolling, no flash, slow javascript.
Desire = Fast, no "checkerboard", flash, fast javascript.
Those sites where you say they have specifically made the video for iPhones... Well, that's because iPhone has been out longer - did you miss that? Did you miss the fact that Android can play h264 just like iPhone which is what those "optimised for iPhone" videos use?
You say "oversaturated" as if it is a technical fault, do you view the world in black and white? No. The majority of those reviews or pictures you've seen have had the brightness up full which, because it's an AMOLED screen, will make the colours brighter and more vibrant and not only increase brightness...
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Hi Everyone,
Tell me, why would anyone actually choose an iPhone over a Desire/N1?
As I see it, the only thing an iPhone has over the Desire is the volume of apps, but can you give me a list of what the Desire/N1 has over the iPhone?
Speaking as someone who has had WinMo, Nokias etc. I can honestly say that my iPhone 3GS is the best device I have ever had. User interface is functional and simple and I can find an app for everything - plus the apps are mature. JB adds a new level to it, and provides the customisability that I love to do.
What I don't like about the iPhone is the restrictive nature of it, with the extreme control that Apple has. Ofc i have jailbroken the iPhone but Apple are making it increasingly harder to do this and I fear we are not far away from them making it near impossible to do so (hell you already have a situation with the newest phones having a tethered jb - i.e. they need to re-jb if their phone loses power, or is rebooted).
That being said, and my heart being in Linux land, my next phone will hopefully be the HTC Desire. I love the customisability of Android, the less restrictive nature, and for someone like me, I reckon i'll get more fun out of it.
The Desire's hardware beats a 3GS hand down. Android is getting there but is not as mature (obviously) as the iPhone OS, and nor are its Apps. But they are getting there. The Desire is a good enough handset that in a years time, Android really will be competing with the iPhone and your hardware will still be capable.
My wife will get the iPhone....
because the iPhone has the best apps. when it comes down to it, that's all the average smartphone user cares about...
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because the iPhone has the best apps. when it comes down to it, that's all the average smartphone user cares about...
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And that's the discussion I keep having with my mates. With the Desire's hardware and Eclair+Sense, the only real thing that the stock iPhone 3GS has going for it now is the apps. My argument there is that once a developer has perfected their app on/for the iPhone they'll likely(/hopefully) then be seeking the challenge, and the revenue(?), from launching it on the Android Market. The Desire's/N1's/Droid's hardware specs and Eclair's open customizability and capability would then allow them to take it to the next level.
1. Better UI controls. Android has great homescreens but when it comes to app UI controls, it lags behind Android.
2. More and Better casual applications. Many more games. Can be purchased around the world in 70+ countries. Much more free/promotion games compared to Android.
3. Better camera than the camera of most Androids.
A couple of things the Desire has going for it vs the iPhone:
*Camera: 5MP w/ flash vs 3MP w/o flash
*Screen resolution: 800x480 vs 480x320
*Battery: I can't back this up but I'm guessing the AMOLED display will drain less juice than the iPhone's traditional backlit LCD. Also, removable battery is always better than non-removable.
*Multi-tasking vs no multi-tasking
*Non-obstructive notications
*Useful information on homescreen vs just a bunch of icons
*File explorer
*Text reflow in browser
*Hardware buttons!
On Iphone run a Graphic Engine. Android can runs only a java application.
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On Iphone run a Graphic Engine. Android can runs only a java application.
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what? This post makes no sense what so ever.
you mean it has a GPU? And are you implying that android phones do not have one?
Maybe you should read up on programming for android:
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
JTHM said:
Tell me, why would anyone actually choose an iPhone over a Desire/N1?
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I went from Nexus One to iPhone 3G S because of iPhone has much better quality apps. Apps make sense as they are thoughtfully designed and hence are easy to use unlike some Android applications which have every feature under the sun but are unintuitive. A good example of this is Astrid.
The good news is 2Do developer have confirmed they are working on 2Do port for Android. Then you will all understand what I am trying to say.
Also, iPhone has much much better games then Android.
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I went from Nexus One to iPhone 3G S because of iPhone has much better quality apps. Apps make sense as they are thoughtfully designed and hence are easy to use unlike some Android applications which have every feature under the sun but are unintuitive. A good example of this is Astrid.
The good news is 2Do developer have confirmed they are working on 2Do port for Android. Then you will all understand what I am trying to say.
Also, iPhone has much much better games then Android.
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I just find the iphone very limited, I've had the 3GS for a month and I'm terribly bored of it. The only reason I still use it over my old touch pro is because it's faster for web browsing.
Android sounds like the kind of OS I want, very customizable very flexable.
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because the iPhone has the best apps. when it comes down to it, that's all the average smartphone user cares about...
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Exactly I love the apps and games I got on my Ipod touch but I wouldn't buy an Iphone cause I dont like that Att crappy service.
All hardware aside, you have to approach this as a standard customer. Said customer buys into what marketing sells; buys into all the hype generated around the fanboys spread across the internet; buys what they are told to buy.
Because of the market saturation, apps developed for the iphonepods will be more cared for and mature a lot faster. Facebook is a prime example of this. If you don't use facebook then this example is lost on you The iphone has a fantastic fbook app that keeps you in the app and offers almost all the same functionality as you would find in a desktop browser; almost. Fbook on android however...not even close. This is a deal breaker for those who live and die with fbook.
So you have a bajillion apps being sold every second in apple's app store generating a ****ton of revenue for all involved giving people reason to create solid apps. There is some pretty solid DRM involved (though not unbreakable ) preventing app piracy which leaves the devs with a peace of mind.
Now take the android world. While android is found on more devices now than I could possibly think of, the average user would never know it. There is no advertising (well nothing compared to the viral campaigning apple has successfully pulled off), no customer draw...android is, for the most part, word of mouth.
So with the above in mind, the numbers just are not there for developers to devote a ton of time into making apps comparable to what you will find on the iphone...not yet anyways.
App protection is another biggie. So with both platforms you require the device to be unlocked/rooted in order to get around this. With the android platform it's a bit easier; once you have root, you have free apps. With the iphone it's a bit trickier but still very doable; one layer beyond simply rooting (jailbreaking). Don't kid yourself if you think devs are not aware of this.
Thankfully, the majority of users on both platforms don't use their powers for evil or we would see a serious drop in apps I bet.
So why would anyone choose an iphone? Apps and itunes.
Apps are a big deal; they are a means to keep in touch with friends and family, they are a means to get unlost, to get lost, to waste time, to save time...the better the app, the more efficient you can do all of these tasks.
People want to carry their music with them. Love it or hate it, itunes is here to stay and a ton of people have fully entrusted their music to itunes. an iphone means everything in itunes is easily synced.
Personally, I went from dumbphones to winmo (moto Q on verizon) to the g1 (t-mobile) and never returned to winmo. I switched to att from tmo and without really thinking about it, I gave my g1 to a friend in favour of an iphone3g. I should have just kept my g1 on edge on att...now while still on att, I am happily back to android with my nexus one. For me, everything stated above carries zero weight in value compared to the freedom I have with my n1.
...thursday rants are fun
Simply because Average Joe (or Jane for my part) doesn't read XDA
I think the more appropriate question is "Why would anyone choose the iPhone?".
Consider this scenario:
You're playing a casual game and listening to your music at the same time. You want to change to another playlist. You can't even do that without completely exiting your game.
I can't fathom using a supposedly smart device that can't even handle that simple of a multi-task.
I think the reason why iphone is still a big winner is only because of the apps and games.
Do u guys think good apps make a good OS?
Why Windows is still now the most popular OS?
Daemos said:
I just find the iphone very limited, I've had the 3GS for a month and I'm terribly bored of it. The only reason I still use it over my old touch pro is because it's faster for web browsing.
Android sounds like the kind of OS I want, very customizable very flexable.
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I have had a variety of smartphones from Blackberrys, to Android. My android phones are by far the best ones. I have up my iphone and ordered the G1 for the original release date. Even though at that time it was not on the same level as the Iphone it opened the door for us to have phones like the Nexus One, Desire, Legend, Moto Droid...ect.....tons of phones that give us choices. My Nexus one out the box was amazing, rooting the thing made it even more ridiculous.
As many of you have said previously, the only thing that I can see is better on iPhone than on Desire / Nexus is the Games, so I do not understand yet why you pay so much more if you buy this just for games? why not buy an iPod if you want the games/mp3.
Because its the trendy thing to buy.
I brought an ipod touch when they first came out. I was sick of it within a day. The apps are pretty well junk or gimmicks, I brought a ton of them never use them.
Games yeah right, maybe sitting in the car waiting for someone but really there crap and you are better off just getting on the net and reading XDA
There also to big to put in your pocket and use as an mp3 player.
But good on apple for marketing to the sheep so well and there about to do it again with the ipad!
Hi ,
I had HTC HD , and now i am on my way to buy a new Phone.
I wont buy 3GS , because in 3 months we will have a new Iphone , so that will be sucky sucky. on the other hand - if i pay so much for a phone i want to be able to play on it , and i saw some tests , showing Iphone has much more FPS in games.
is it a GPU thing ? if so , why would i buy the Desire.
currently this is the only thing -
if Desire had good games with good quality 3D and nice FPS . no reason to even consider 3GS or any iPhone .
Hardware (processor speed) comparisons are simply "wrong". Numbers on paper mean nothing because the OS software are not the same. Don't know why people don't get this...
That video that idandush referred is a good example.
The thread its all about.
I love my 3gs, mainly because its huge amount of 3d quality games, instruments, prank apps and other apps.
But the desire aint expensive and i can trade it for my iphone.
Its a real hard choice. The desire has a superb screen, but the iphone is more smooth and offers more games.
What would you do and why?
And are there already some quality 3d games for android?
About 3 months ago I bought an iPhone 3gs, mainly because of boredom.
3 days ago I received my Desire as a free upgrade.
The iPhone is a fantastic unit, but I'm bored with it already. I feel tied in. I can't mod it how I'd like to, and tbh it isn't worth the price.
The Desire has captivated me, frustrated me, but engaged me more than the iPhone did.
Ebay is about to get another iPhone for sale.
Why has the desire frustrated you?
I switched from the HD2 (nightmare) and i havent found a single thing wrong with the phone - i actually love it
in answer to your question you seem more concerned about apps rather than the actual phone so i think you should stick with your 3gs, i mean the android marketplace has many apps, but not really like pranks apps and stuff
if you want an overall all round great phone id definitely recommend the desire!
How is the graphic performance of the Desire compared to the iPhone 3GS? Because the 3GS has a dedicated graphics chip (powerVR SGX) where the Desire only has its 1Ghz Snapdragon. I'd like to play some 3D games on it aswel.
I think you'll get a biased opinion here... but I've had a couple of less zealous iPhone owners who've had a play with my phone concede that they actually quite like the Desire and they might even prefer to have one*. I've not bothered with any 3D games so I couldn't comment on that, but there seems to be plenty of games in the Market.
* Steve Jobs's flying monkeys will no doubt be on to them already.
Having moved from winmob to Android, I can honestly say the HTC Desire is simply an amazing phone. Android is such a breeze and it just works, no more lag or soft reset.
You have to remember the Android market is still very young, so it will grow in time.
The best 3D game I have been playing is 'Raging Thunder II - Lite edition', it is a racing game which you control by using the accelometer, best thing is it is free!
Technically the Snapdragon in the Desire is more powerful when it comes to 3D gaming but due to the higher res screen the performance ends up being more or less the same. At the moment the iPhone has a very slight lead in 3D performance but when FroYo is released and OpenGL2 is put out for the Desire we can see a big improvement.
Very simple, if you want a massive range of apps, that are of good quality, including good games etc, then go iPhone hands down. If you prefer to tinker with your phone, flash roms, adjust the looks etc, go android. Coming from both winmo and iphone, there are many apps I sorely miss that were on the iPhone that I can't get on the desire, BUT there are many things I can do with the desire that I had no chance of doing on the iPhone (eg. downloading rss feeds including videos and audio files from the phone). I also feel a lot better not having to rely on iTunes for transferring files etc. It was a nightmare for me when I didn't have access to MY computer, therefore I could not transfer files to it....
Apple do absolutely nothing for me, I wouldn't notice if they were not there.
I had a iphone and a hd2 both of which got listed on ebay within a few days of me receiving my desire. iPhone had more apps but bring on android 2.5 and the app emulator
cgrec92 said:
Why has the desire frustrated you?
I switched from the HD2 (nightmare) and i havent found a single thing wrong with the phone - i actually love it
in answer to your question you seem more concerned about apps rather than the actual phone so i think you should stick with your 3gs, i mean the android marketplace has many apps, but not really like pranks apps and stuff
if you want an overall all round great phone id definitely recommend the desire!
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Same here, my HD2 has just come back from HTC as a referb due to ongoing issues with the screen. All replaced and the HD2 is now fine but its on Ebay. I think the desire is totally what I wanted the HD2 to be. As for the Iphone I borrowed a mate's for a few days as I was going to get one. He told me to try it first. I loved it but got bored quick, yes its lovely to look at, IE the build quality. But it still has faults, IE still needs to be rebooted from time to time. Things such as trying to use MP3's as a ringtone, whilst its possible to convert or buy from Apple. The Android isnt a direct replacement yet, but I have a feeling Android will get there as more developers join. For me I wanted something different to what everyone else has got, the Iphone is just following the herd.
Hey guys, i'm looking to buy a phone in the near future, and have 3 options in my price range (a trade in for my Touch HD with a broken memory card slot..). I'm looking at the Nokia N900, HTC Desire or iPhone 3G (not 3GS).
I'm heavily swayed towards the desire - the screen looks amazing, the build quality looks good..and it runs Android which I've wanted for a while..
Now I don't actually have an internet bolt-on with my contract (I am an O2 UK Customer), so browsing isn't the most important feature, though I do regularly use available Wi-Fi connections. I'm guessing in that respect, the N900 is the one to go for?
Moving on...operating systems. Anyone had experience with Maemo? (N900 operating system). What is it like? Does it hang or crash much..i'm coming from Windows Mobile 6.1 so I know how annoying it can be having to constantly restart your mobile phone.
One of, if not THE most important things to me is the music player. My iPod got stolen, so i've been using my Touch HD for a while now, and while the quality is okay, the music player drains the battery something crazy..whats the HTC Desire like with say 3-4 hours music playing on average a day, and moderate telephony (mostly SMS, with a few phone calls)? Anyone had experience with the N900? From reviews i've read that the iPhone 3G does well here..but alot of people I know who own one, don't agree..but they've had their iPhones a long long time, and use alot of applications..their batteries could well just need replacing.
Anything else anyone wants to comment to help my decision? In looking at reviews HTC Desire seems to come up top..but how does it relate to the average user? I do occasionaly engage in some geeky activities with my mobile phone...but it's more important to me as just that - a Mobile Phone.
Any views are welcome, I look forward to hearing your replies!
Many thanks in advance!
Amar
P.s. If you're heavily biased to any of the handsets (I know..i'm posting in the HTC Desire section) please try to give as objective an opinion as you can!
Non biased you won't get a lot of love here for iPhone!
I've been using my desire very heavily since I got it a month ago (usually bored of things before 30 days but this thing is just amazing) and the battery is pretty good. I charge it every night anyway but thats mainly because I have it running white noise to help me sleep (really works). I would say if I used it the same as I used to use my touch hd then it would probably last me 2 to 3 days. Also dont forget that you can carry a spare battery with the desire and you can't with the iPhone. Spare batteries are pretty cheap, usually less than 20gbp.
I play a lot of music on it and think that the whole music experience is very good. Some people say that the volume is not loud enough but I find that with decent headphones its perfect for me on about 80 to 90%. Played through my car stereo it sounds fantastic. Not had a lot of experience with the iPhone music interface but the desire one does everything I want it to and if I need more there are plenty of aps that can replace the default player.
If you really are a geek then Android really is the only option. There are so many ways to waste your time on the desire its frightening. In the last month I have barely touched my desktop and that very rare for me.
As far as WiFi access goes the desire is permanently connected to my router. I do have mobile net too but only use that when out and about.
If your choice was between desire and iPhone 3gs I would still choose the desire. You are choosing between desire, iPhone 3gs (can't comment on the other one I have no experience with it) then I can't see any competition really.
Android gets better and better and is still very young.
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I would say if I used it the same as I used to use my touch hd then it would probably last me 2 to 3 days.
I play a lot of music on it and think that the whole music experience is very good. Some people say that the volume is not loud enough but I find that with decent headphones its perfect for me on about 80 to 90%. Played through my car stereo it sounds fantastic. Not had a lot of experience with the iPhone music interface but the desire one does everything I want it to and if I need more there are plenty of aps that can replace the default player.
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2-3 days?! My Touch HD only goes for about a day...then again...i've abused the battery by leaving it on charge overnight...can't do the battery any good I suppose!
Volume isn't an issue, I own a portable amplifier (PA2V2..search it on eBay). On a side note, it's highly recommended to buy a portable amplifier.. I've not seen my music the same way since!
Thank you zzleezz..I think i'm pretty much decided already now! Apps and geeky goodness is what I look for in a phone haha..
I think now it's just between N900 and the Desire, though I already know I'm going to choose the Desire haha... I'm just one of those people who like to know for definite before they invest!
Also..as a newbie to Android, are there a lot of free apps? I am but a lowly student! The on-line Android App store won't let you check..you have to browse it from an Android Phone to see it properly..
I recently just got a HTC Desire and my girlfriend has a Nokia N900.
I have never seen my girlfriend's N900 crashing but there was a bit of slowdown when a few GBs of songs are transferred into the phone. It was alright after a reboot. For multimedia, I think I would say N900 is the best. It has got good speakers and camera.
The hardware keyboard is pretty nice as well.
However, I don't like the resistive touch screen. I find it really hard to use compared to capacitive touch screen.
Battery life on N900 is pretty good. Perhaps better than the Desire.
For operating system,
I see Maemo as something in between Symbian and Android. There are some similarity between them.
FOr the HTC Desire,
I've only had it for 1 day+ but I'm loving it.
Battery on Desire is definitely better than my previous HTC HD2.
Everything is smooth and fluid. Installing/uninstalling apps never take more than 5secs each, which you don't see in N900 or Windows mobile.
I never use my phone as a mp3 player as I have an Ipod classic. So I can't comment on that.
Never had an Iphone before. Can't comment on that as well.
In all,
unless you really really like a hardware keyboard, better speakers, slightly longer battery life, I would suggest you skip the N900.
unless you are really an Iphone fan, I suggest you skip iphone as well.
Do some research on HTC Desire's bugs, shortcomings, disadvantages.
If you can live with that, I would suggest you get the Desire.
Since it has got better specs than the other 2 phones as well.
What about the motorola milestone if you want a hardware keyboard and android?
what is this stuff with white noise to sleep?
Thats a constant noise which may remind you of Rain, its helpful ti block other noises if you want to take a nap...even if it's loud, YouTube wont find it disturbing, you'll rather find it peaceful and calming
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If you want a multimedia phone and you are not willing to geek around it you should go for the iPhone. As an ex iphone user i would say that it's a perfect user-friendly, foolproof phone, which would hardly leave you on the road without multimedia (of course if you don't thinker it much, it's software is quite fragile). But that's just it - iPhone is only for multimedia (at least for me). Most of the apps are just plain copy of another app on the appstore and they sux. I've found just 1-2 which i liked much (one RISK clone and a Google analytics app).
But if you want a phone, with a bit more power, to be able to do stuff you are used on your pc (if you use pc), then go for the Desire. I had it for a week now and I could say that it blows away the iPhone for me. Wouldn't go back apple's way again ... (well if they don't release a free blowjob accessory for iPhone,pod,pad... ))
Also if you go with iphone, forget easy management of songs, but you already know that from your ipod (as the big difference here is that for managing songs on iPhone, you NEED itunes, it's not detectable as flash-drive).
Search for white noise on the market, there is a paid one and a free one. Free one does fine for me, rain sound on low and I sleep like a baby
unrealnet,
I even disagree that the iPhone is good as a multimedia phone.
I think there's nothing easier than just copying music onto the device, the Desire will put it into your library within seconds (or less). That's soooo much easier than having to go through iTunes (which, IMO, is a virus and you can't avoid it if you use an iPhone).
There are great media players for Android that are much better than the iPod app on the iPhone (the stock one is okay also, but there are really good ones on the Market, like MixZing). Alternative players are forbidden on the iPhone anyway, whereas you have a choice of great players on Android.
And that brings me to my next point: On the iPhone, unless you jailbreak it (which brings new annoyances), you can't have alternative players, you can't play any other formats than Apple's (whereas on Android, you can play pretty much anything with the built in players or an app from the Market).
I think there's not much more to say. You've used Windows Mobile, that means you know about all the possibilities an open system gets you. It's the same with Android, you can do pretty much anything you like.
What's not the same is that unlike Windows Mobile, Android just works. It's smooth, it's stable, it doesn't annoy you like WinMo does.
That said, I think there can only be one answer: Get the Desire.
I also just recently switched over from WinMo and I'm amazed by this phone. I also had an iPhone some time ago, and it really can not compare to the Desire in any way.
Everything that the iPhone does, the Desire does as well - and better - and most importantly, it does sooo much more... I wouldn't say it does more than Windows Mobile, but at least it does not annoy you.
It's like the combination of Windows Mobile and the iPhone: It just works fast, smooth and stable like an iPhone, but it does much much more like Windows Mobile.
shaundalglish,
I've noted the problems on the software and syncing.
iPhone can play aac, mp3, wav which ... in my opinion are ... let's say most used formats. I can hardly see myself playing flac on the phone
As for the iPhone as media device - may be you have missed the part to feel the phone as a whole without jerking around with external players. I can say that iPhone's ipod is one of the best multimedia players (in means of organizing) music. As for the Desire it's right next to it. If I can represent it in numbers iPhone's iPod is 100% and desire's (stock) is 99.8%.
So once again - if you are an user who wants just to use the stuff, and not worry about some hidden "features" here and there, you should go for the iPhone, but you would loose all the customization that Android gives you.
If you want to have control to make your phone, really YOUR phone, then definitely go for Desire! It's THE phone I can barely leave it out of sight, just because i love to look at it soo much. *inlove* ^^
I've now had my Desire for at couple of weeks, and I think it is a fantastic smartphone
One of the great things about Android is, that it just works out of the box, while giving you a rich user experience as well as a very high level of customization. As a longtime WinMo user myself I was a bit sceptical in switching to Android, but have not regreted it once since. One of the things that really maid my day was the efficiency and easyness of the Facebook and Google Account synchronization I have never been able to achieve on WinMo. Android has a beautifully designed GUI, all the way throughout the system, which was one of the main selling aspects of the iPhone, and in my opinion was entirely missing on WinMo (different interface in all apps, the quick transition between modern cool graphics layer to Win 95 like sms interface and so on). One real advantage of Desire (and any almost any phone in my opinion ) over the iPhone is of course the freedom you get by not being limited to do everything through iTunes and having free access to the phone's memory.
As for the phone itself I can say that the battery life is satisfactory, you can't really expect more from such a feature packed phone, I have personally developed a pattern where I charge my phone every night, so it has never been a problem for me. There are however some things you can do if you want to get a longer battery life. These are things such as turning the background data off, installing an automated taskkiller which periodically kills the unnecessary apps running in the background, turning off the location service (the phones manages the GPS power state), turning off WiFi etc... Android runs fluently, on the 1 GHz Snaprdagon CPU, actually noticably faster if you compare it with the HTC Legend.
I have tried to use the phone as a media player for a day (I usually use my Sony Walkman) and I can say that the battery life is reasonable, while the built in music player is fast and intuitively simple (I still haven't found how to add a song a playlist in Windows Media Player ), however one thing the player lacks is an equalizer. The phone is great for watching youtube or other online video (Flash works smoothly), the sound from the built in speaker is however not of the best quality. iPhone's or any Sony Ericsson's W series speakers are better.
So my general verdict here is: go get the Desire, you will not regret it
It's like the combination of Windows Mobile and the iPhone: It just works fast, smooth and stable like an iPhone, but it does much much more like Windows Mobile.
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2-3 days?! My Touch HD only goes for about a day...then again...i've abused the battery by leaving it on charge overnight...can't do the battery any good I suppose!
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Nonsense... The phone knows when to stop charging, in fact most modern phones charge to 100% then completely stop charging until it drops down to 95% then charges back to 100%, etc.
Ok here's my simple explanation:
If you don't want/can't spend that extra day to learn how your phone works and how powerful it is and you don't care about getting into a closed ecosystem and pay 20-30% more for the same (actually maybe less) features, do get an iphone.
also if you care mostly about stylish appearance do get an iphone.
Otherwise get any other smartphone.
The desire is at the moment one of thee best value/price handset, I think
I think you'd be foolish to get anything other than an iPhone. It just works. The sound quality on the desire is pretty bad in my opinion. Appears that listening to music is pretty high up on your agenda? Your speakers may make it louder but the quality just ain't there. Plus you wanna use it as a phone. Another reason for getting an iPhone. You don't want missed calls that go straight to answerphone right? The aerial stack on the desire is pretty poor in my opinion. Furthermore many people have trouble with the desire switching from 3g to H to E pretty much constantly even when the phone is not moving. And many people it appears have to reboot there phones to get Internet connected. These latter issues don't effect everyone but they do effect many. I love my desire for many reasons. But I don't think it will suit your needs by the sound of it.
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I think you'd be foolish to get anything other than an iPhone. It just works. The sound quality on the desire is pretty bad in my opinion. Appears that listening to music is pretty high up on your agenda? Your speakers may make it louder but the quality just ain't there. Plus you wanna use it as a phone. Another reason for getting an iPhone. You don't want missed calls that go straight to answerphone right? The aerial stack on the desire is pretty poor in my opinion. Furthermore many people have trouble with the desire switching from 3g to H to E pretty much constantly even when the phone is not moving. And many people it appears have to reboot there phones to get Internet connected. These latter issues don't effect everyone but they do effect many. I love my desire for many reasons. But I don't think it will suit your needs by the sound of it.
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Enggg???? I don't agree with these comments at all; i don't know about the loudspeaker 'cause i don't use it but sound quality through my own earphones is just as good as my i-pod so sound quality is NOT an issue. I often listen to music and the player apps are really good, just as good as i phones and the ability to just dump music onto sd card (even straight from internet or bluetooth or wirlessly from pc) is very comfortable and handy!!
No probs at all with internet here, not one single one and anyway, from what i heard you're sticking to wifi so 3g is no issue for you anyway!
I've had an iphone, it was amazing when it came out but the desire has caught up and overtaken.
And the N900, mmmm, never tried one but from the vids i've seen on internet, it looks quite cool!
blah blah blah
get a desire
I don't even think its fair to compare the iPhone with the Desire. The Desire is so much more versatile, powerful, and customizable.
I use the device to watch youtube clips and movies and listen to Mp3. I think the sound quality is excellent. As I understand it you cannot multi-task on an iPhone? So you cannot surf and listen to mp3s? Also no flash on Apple. I can watch flash on my Desire, and its also due flash 10.1 which will be even smoother. iPhone will never see flash.
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I think you'd be foolish to get anything other than an iPhone. It just works. The sound quality on the desire is pretty bad in my opinion. Appears that listening to music is pretty high up on your agenda? Your speakers may make it louder but the quality just ain't there. Plus you wanna use it as a phone. Another reason for getting an iPhone. You don't want missed calls that go straight to answerphone right? The aerial stack on the desire is pretty poor in my opinion. Furthermore many people have trouble with the desire switching from 3g to H to E pretty much constantly even when the phone is not moving. And many people it appears have to reboot there phones to get Internet connected. These latter issues don't effect everyone but they do effect many. I love my desire for many reasons. But I don't think it will suit your needs by the sound of it.
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Dunbad, seems the Apple brainwashing worked on you
I never have problems with switching between wifi/HSDPA/3g its seemless. Only time I have a problem with internet is in the middle of Thetford Forest where I also have problems making voice calls as there is no signal
Aerial stack on my Desire is better than my old touch HD and also better than my wifes Legend.
Music quality is great, had a friends ipod touch next to my desire the other night and we played the same track through the same set of headphones for a perfect comparrison. The ipod was a lot louder, going into the range of being able to damage your hearing, the desire could get to the stage where it was just on the loud stage but nowhere near as loud as the ipod. Not a problem imo, and historically HTC have limited output on the headphones of their phones. On my old touch HD I was able to adjust the limit in the registry, im sure it will be only a matter of time before some bright spark shows us how to change the setting in android
I wonder what network the "many" people quoted above are on, might be worth finding out. I am on vodamoan (perfect signal, great coverage, bad 500m FUP on data).
The sound quality on the Desire is just fine. I have no issues with it. Android is an amazing moble OS. I have messed around with iPhones a bit... and I really don't get why people like the iPhone OS so much. In my opinion pretty much anything running Android is better then an iPhone. As for the n900... it was a very nice idea, but Maemo never went anywhere. Maemo is pretty much a dead OS. There is a new OS being made by Nokia/Intel called Meago I think it is. It's rumored that the n900 will get this if it comes out. By the time it does though, the hardware on Tue n900 which is already aged will be so far behind it would be pointless to get one. Android has a lot of useful apps so far, and its improving rapidly. It already has things that no other mobile OS does. Android is the way to go right now... and the Desire is one of the top Android phones. Nothing else is really too superior to it currently.
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is it then?
loads of debate knocking around but who best to ask, owners!
about to run out of contract with t-mobile uk
choice is 3gs or desire
How are we supposed to tell you what is better for you??
(allthough, if you do rely on others to tell you what is better for you, you might be better of with the iphone )
Yes it is. No need for any further debate.
just i though theres maybe ex iphone fanboys in here, thats all,
why would you say that then
Ex iPhone users are plenty.
The software Android is a lot better than iPhone OS. No stupid restrictions, no censorship. Lots of flexibility, customization options and features the iPhone will never have, like Flash. You can have widgets on your home screen that can give you all sorts of information, instead of just a bunch of stupid icons and much more.
Hardware-wise the 3GS is completely outdated. The Desire has a 1GHz processor vs. 600MHz in the iPhone. A 5 megapixel camera with flash vs. 3 without flash in the iPhone. A 3.7" high-resolution, beautiful AMOLED screen vs a 3.5", low-resolution (=fuzzy, pixelated) standard LCD screen. And so on...
It's really hard to find *anything* the iPhone is better at. The Desire totally owns it. And even the next iPhone will be just a copy of the Desire - that's how you see the Desire is much better.
This being a Desire forum, it is unlikely that you'll get too many objective views on the subject, but from my personal perspective, I wouldn't get an iPhone, because I do not like the ecosystem that Apple has built around the device - if I buy a phone, I want to feel that I own it, not lease it from Apple.
Regardless of that, I feel that the Desire suits my needs far better than an iPhone would, though the iPhone itself is a fine device.
Putting all that to one side for the moment, if I was in the market for an iPhone, given that the next iPhone is likely to be released in the next few months, I wouldn't get a 3GS now anyway because it will likely be superceded before the summer is out.
FWIW, I'm not anti-Apple - I've got an iMac, a Macbook, and I bought my wife an iPod Touch.
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Dave
Yeah definitely try them to see which is better for your needs
But personally I think the phones you should be deciding between are the
iPhone 4G or Nexus One
Apple will show the new iPhone at WWDC (7-11 July)
And the Nexus One beats the Desire in terms of software.
But really, don't let people here decide for you, choose for yourself!
Yes it is, expect for the 3gs music, everything else is better
I used to be a 3GS owner and love my Desire and find it loads better! As others have said shame the music player isn't as good. But everything else is
As others have said shame the music player isn't as good.
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You know what's great about Android? You can just go to the Market and download another music player.
Try that on an iPhone.
I use MixZing and find it better than the stock player and the iPod app.
Unlike those of us in the US, others can buy Win Phone 7 devices. So what do you think?
I have not tested it yet as mine is arriving shortly.
I think that it does look good and that Microsoft has the right idea.
The only issues that I can see with it is the SDK limitations and the general os limitations.
i love it, it has it's limitation but it will get better.
Used an HD7 for about 30 minutes in the T-Mobile store here. Smooth like butter, and it has 16GB storage.
I'm definitely leaning towards getting one.
Finally an OS that performs like one should on this hardware. Can't even imagine what performance will be like on next-gen hardware.
Up until 28th November I was an Android Fanboy - G1 when it was launched, Desire as an Upgrade.
I now actually prefer Wp7 to Android and love the fact I went and bought a HD7. My desire is now untouched, I put it on Ebay
i just played a bit with one at a t-mobile store... (htc mozart)
very smooth handling in every condition
i dont like pinch to zoom in any browser i used before (opera, safari, whatever android has...) but i like it in wp7 very much
but then there are the known limitations and some of them i realy dislike...
if there was a way to use wp7 device as mass storage my decision would be clear pro wp7...
Had it for 3 days, love it.
Blazingly fast and super solid - yes a few things are unavailable at the moment but its only been out for a matter of days.
Genuinely excited for the future of this OS.
Thanks for the replies. Sounds great. I was hoping to move away from AT&T but, if the WP7 devices are good maybe I will stay with them.
BTW, does anyone have a standalone Zune and care to compare the functionality of the WP7? I have a Zune 80 and love the Zune Marketplace and Zune client.
Love it as well. I miss the the messaging apps available on iOS and Android and some apps are a bit slow to launch, but it is a polished OS especially for a 1.0 with a lot of attention to detail taken on it. In a way it makes Android look like a toy, Aesthetics wise, and it is much smoother natively.
agreed with the ones above, had my HTC Trophy for over 2 days now and i'm really liking it. I see the Trophy as the base model for all Windows Phones. There is no stand out feature in this phone at all, it's all minimum spec, but it works... exceptionally! Games are a little slow on loading, but that's ok, the gameplay itself is fine. This limitation is due to the use of microSD (which you'll probably see in the other HTC phones). But I don't plan on voiding my warranty, and my carrier throws an extra year on top, so i have 2 years warranty. I don't use it for music all that much as i'm more of a radio listener... and let me tell you, when i fired up the radio for the first time this morning... man was it a really nicely designed radio. Simple, only get a bar with the radio frequency on top, and you just scroll left/right, and find the frequency you want. Favourite it, and done. SO NICE!
hmm looks like im really gonna have to get this lol
all good comments.. i suppose to have my HD7 with me right now but my friend could not pick it up in singapore for me... now i have to wait till dec 1st as i cant make it to SG till then..
I LOVE IT. its that simple. There is a few very tiny glitches but i had that with android blackberry and sare i say it ios as well. I do have a couple of poiunts for a few people that moan about some missing features though.
Mass storage - why oh why would you want to use your phone for this i don't get it? the memory inside is for the phone not your pc. Get a memory stick they cost about £20 and will sit on your keyring they are faster and easier to use.
Flash - this is coming very soon adobe and Microsoft have confirmed this.
Copy paste - as above (i suspect the January update for both though flash may come as its own download)
Multitasking - just a battery drain and all the main features do this anyway, the phone is quick at swapping between apps. I don't get why you would want to multi-task beyond what it already does if anyone can give me a good example i will retract that but so far its just "cos we like it that we can" i personally prefer a battery that lasts unlike the desire.
removable storage - once again why would you want this? I have an idea don't buy a load of small cards just get one good one. You can argue that the on board amounts given at launch are poor (i to stated this) BUT, America will get the focus this can be upgraded so to can the dell. The HD7 can be also if you don't mind getting under the back cover. I suspect as with the hd7 we will find others. So there are options even for the most data intensive. Your phone is not a memory stick people.
I personally think wp7 has it right esp for a brand new os that has not even had, dare i call the January update this, service pack 1. I don't like to say i will never touch things again because the world is constantly changing but i will say for now i am so glad i sold my desire and got a hd7 it beats anything else hands down.
I just realized i was so busy fending the so called downsides i forgot to look at why wp7 is the best.
Xbox live - this is so good it makes my nuts tingle though it was a lil slow at first once it has had chance to sync everything up it is amazing. I can see all my avatar stuff in 3d i can see my mates avatars in 3d i can compare gamer scores, i can earn achievements on games i can send messages to my live friends and see what they are doing. Basically all the same stuff i can do on my xbox but on a phone. Plus they will soon have multilayer games not just turn by turn and intergration into actual xbox games.
Zune - By far and away the best music/media experience you can get. Makes iphone look old and rubbish. I have loved Zune since i got my zune hd imported last year. Zune software is easier to use then itunes. It is far better at managing your media and is so good at getting the track data. Plus unlike itunes if it cant find it automatically you can just find it yourself easy as and make sure all the tracks have the right names with a no fuss at all. Put it this way my itunes on my mac has about 80% of the right art my zune has 100% (and for about 8 months i had to use the mac as my main pc due to frying my motherboard so it is nothing to do with me not careing about getting it sorted).
Hubs/live tile - just genius i hardly use my facebook app as i don't need to my friends are asy to contact and find and my pictures are all in one place. Yeah you can collect data together on android but until you have used a wp7, and i do say if your unsure go to the store and play, its hard to explain why its so much better but it just is. updates are right there on the home screen and even the lock screen.
Speed/transactions - This is a zippy os everything is smooth and looks sexy, this isnt a big point for many people i know but, there is no better feeling then when showing someone an email or a text or anything on your phone and it flys there but at the same time looks like something from minority report.
The phone is fantastic. The system is very smooth! The zune feature wit zune pass is great. One thing though, notification sounds for txt and email are very, very quiet (HD7). I can hardly hear them
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The phone is fantastic. The system is very smooth! The zune feature wit zune pass is great. One thing though, notification sounds for txt and email are very, very quiet (HD7). I can hardly hear them
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have you updated the audio controller from htc as it may be coincidence but i thought it was quieter before i did that.
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Multitasking - just a battery drain and all the main features do this anyway, the phone is quick at swapping between apps. I don't get why you would want to multi-task beyond what it already does if anyone can give me a good example i will retract that but so far its just "cos we like it that we can" i personally prefer a battery that lasts unlike the desire.
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I disagree. There are cases where multitasking would help, one area would be instant messaging. Also, I have looked at most reviews out there and battery life is on par with similarly specced Android devices. For example, the HD7 vs. EVO/Desire HD. Even my developer WP7 devices battery lasts around the same time as my Captivate.
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There is no denying the fact that multitasking would help in many cases. I am glad that MS never said they wouldn't allow 3rd party aps to multitask. I am sure it's already in development... may be being tested as we speak
Went from HTC to Samsung Focus, so far i do love the smoothness and speed. Active tiles are a huge plus and can see where this can be beneficial in various ways. Only 'major' things needed is tethering or turning the phone into a WiFi Hotspot (and would like bluetooth rSAP support).
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I disagree. There are cases where multitasking would help, one area would be instant messaging. Also, I have looked at most reviews out there and battery life is on par with similarly specced Android devices. For example, the HD7 vs. EVO/Desire HD. Even my developer WP7 devices battery lasts around the same time as my Captivate.
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You're wrong.
With Push Messaging, you get you IMs without the app even running. Multitasking IM applications is a huge waste of battery.
Do you even have a clue what you're talking about?
Also, the HD7 has a weak battery in it. It's around 1230 mAh, IIRC. Most decent phones have 1500 mAh batteries in them. Check that before you make a comparison. Also, use patterns on the two phones may not be identical. It's almost impossible to conduct a decent test for battery life outside of a controlled environment.