Posted today on Engadget.com:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/htc-most-phones-launched-in-2010-will-get-android-2-2/
"most of its 2010 phone catalog will indeed be riding Android 2.2 before the year is through"
It will probably be released just in time for new years eve.
Look people...the best thing to do is just enjoy your phone now rather than killing yourself waiting on this because, frankly, with the wait I'm sure is ahead of us it's going to get real old real quick with the "...any news on when? Anyone have a leaked ROM? Any idea when it'll be ported from Nexus 1? Any idea when HTC will update Sense!?" questions every day for the next 6 months.
Aitese said:
Look people...the best thing to do is just enjoy your phone now rather than killing yourself waiting on this because, frankly, with the wait I'm sure is ahead of us it's going to get real old real quick with the "...any news on when? Anyone have a leaked ROM? Any idea when it'll be ported from Nexus 1? Any idea when HTC will update Sense!?" questions every day for the next 6 months.
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Hopefully it won't be that long.
On another not, is there any news on when froyo will be available for the Desire?
We should all be glad they actually announce that they are going to update the desire. I have the touch HD before this and at first they said maybe an update to 6.5 and then they said users don't need update, this was the top of the line phone at the time.
Android since last June have released 1.5, 1.6 2.0, 2.1 and now 2.2. So you can realise that android are releasing a updates every 2 or 3 months. So whats the point in trying to keep up. No manufacturer will ever be able to do this. It's unsustainable. 2.3 Gingerbread is due at the end of the year too. So we will probably get 2.2 a month before Gingerbread, then everyone will moan and complain and want that. Just enjoy your phone as it is now. Google will need to change their behaviour to avoid fragmentation of the OS. i.e. handsets running all different versions. They are working on adapting their updates so they can be delivered to any system via the market without having to be customized for SENSE UI or the equivalent. Lets hope that happens sometime.
I can understand people want to stay up-to-date but honestly, if people keep complaining about HTC taking to long to get Sense on the new Android version, why did they go for a HTC in the first place? Ofcourse, a new OS will always give nice new functionality but i'm actually quite happy the way it is now and don't really see an immediate need to upgrade.
Running r3 MCR with A2SD+ i think i have pretty much everything i need.
Bought my desire on 02 @ £285... about to start using it in the UK, but will be moving abroad in the next few months.
How will I be able to update my phone if I'm abroad ?
I'll still have an 02 sim that I could use.. but would that work ?
I don't want to root / flash it if I can help it !!
Thanks
They say before the end of the year but i don't believe it.
they promised an update for the HTC hero to android 2.1.
it was promised for march 2010 then april, and now its may and still no update
thats how it wil go with the other phones too.
I personally think 2.2 is quite important for the mass market, the main feature being apps on the SD card. Most of Joe public aren't going to root!
Recently I've converted some people from the iPhone and that seems to be the main gripe!
That's just my opinion....
ritdaw said:
I personally think 2.2 is quite important for the mass market, the main feature being apps on the SD card. Most of Joe public aren't going to root!
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2.2 is probably the most significant upgrade there's been to Android.
Two of the main reasons to root are Apps2SD and WiFi tethering, and both of these are now standard Android.
I especially like the way that you seem to be able to choose where you want to install an app (i.e. to phone memory or SD card) and can even subsequently transfer them.
Hopefully this means that you'll be able to install a set of core applications to your phone, and then have separate SD cards for different purposes, and Android takes it all in its stride allowing you to chop and change as required.
Regards.
Dave
Whats going to happen when app developers have the option to install the app to SD card instead with 2.2 and develop with that in mind but everyone except Nexus One owners won't be able to do it? (Ignore Rooting & A2SD)
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Whats going to happen when app developers have the option to install the app to SD card instead with 2.2 and develop with that in mind but everyone except Nexus One owners won't be able to do it? (Ignore Rooting & A2SD)
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They make the app 2.2 only on the market - you just won't see it on phones with earlier versions of the OS.
The Nexus One will get 2.2 first, that's a given, but I do expect updates to more recent phones to come quite quickly this time around.
Regards,
Dave
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They make the app 2.2 only on the market - you just won't see it on phones with earlier versions of the OS.
The Nexus One will get 2.2 first, that's a given, but I do expect updates to more recent phones to come quite quickly this time around.
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Dave
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So does the market show the highest compatible version with your version of the os? or does it just remove the app from the market completely?
was thinking of rooting my desire but undecided now, anyone have a clue when us Desire users will get froyo? (preferably uncooked)
I think the main point is, no one nows when the desire will get froyo officially, everyone can make guesses, but it could be june, it could be december.
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So does the market show the highest compatible version with your version of the os? or does it just remove the app from the market completely?
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As far as I'm aware, if you want to support multiple versions of Android with your app, you need to publish them individually with different names.
Of course, this only really matters if your app uses deprecated APIs, or features only available in newer versions of the OS.
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Dave
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I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
i think it will but there will be a slight delay as HTC need to update Sense to work with 2.2 whereas the N1 has no overlays so can be updated as soon as the update is released
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I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
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I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
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I wouldn't count on that.
HTC Hero used to be the top of the line before the Legend and the Desire came out. I think the Hero was launched in September, but until now the latest """Rumors""" say it will be updated to 2.1 in June.
Not to mention, android 1.5 on the Hero has limitations, which naturally should become a reason for updating, but yet, that wasn't good enough.
So worrying about it is just a waste of callories
But when the Desire gets rooted, we'll have plently of cooked 2.2, 2.5... etc Roms
If 2.2 is when their "Defragmentation Solving" thing comes into effect then probably yes.
Because in theory, HTC wouldn't have to do anything, sense and all the apps would happily run on top of 2.2 as separate apps.
They had better... Flash 10.1, DivX and 720p recording depend on it.
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If 2.2 is when their "Defragmentation Solving" thing comes into effect then probably yes.
Because in theory, HTC wouldn't have to do anything, sense and all the apps would happily run on top of 2.2 as separate apps.
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Still, it will take HTC alot of work to migrate to 2.2 in the first place. After which defragmentation concept can be applied.
Anyway, the complexity of it will be clear when that feature is out.
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They had better... Flash 10.1, DivX and 720p recording depend on it.
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Did you read this somewhere?
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Did you read this somewhere?
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Flash 10.1 is definitley in FroYo. DivX and 720P recording was something HTC promised to be released in an update after the desire was launched so to me it makes sense that FroYo would be the update.
Look at it this way...HTC supposedly take such a long time because they build Sense to integrate tightly with the underlying OS. It's hooked in. The direction Google is taking is going to mean Sense is a separate self standing app/service...so HTC now have to re-write it probably from the ground up. That's not a trivial task if that's what this means.
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Flash 10.1 is definitley in FroYo. DivX and 720P recording was something HTC promised to be released in an update after the desire was launched so to me it makes sense that FroYo would be the update.
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You're right, all these are promised to be coming to the Desire, and Flash 10.1 is rumored to be coming to Nexus 1 with Froyo.
But that doesn't mean all these features require the update to Froyo, at least I hope so, or the Desire will have to wait for a long time.
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I wouldn't count on that.
HTC Hero used to be the top of the line before the Legend and the Desire came out. I think the Hero was launched in September, but until now the latest """Rumors""" say it will be updated to 2.1 in June.
Not to mention, android 1.5 on the Hero has limitations, which naturally should become a reason for updating, but yet, that wasn't good enough.
So worrying about it is just a waste of callories
But when the Desire gets rooted, we'll have plently of cooked 2.2, 2.5... etc Roms
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I agree with you, waiting for 'rooted'.
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I agree with you, waiting for 'rooted'.
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I can't wait to root mine. Good thing is that it won't affect the warranty unlike the Nexus One.
I REALLY hope that the seperated update stuff will be here sooner than later. I am actually quite surprised since I got the Hero that it's not in Android to start with.
And it's the only way Google can avoid fragmentation, which imho is one of the biggest threat to the platform so far.
Warranty issue also depends on where you live. They can put in as much warranty void thingies in as they want. But when my phone has a hardware issue and they don't want to fix because I changed something in the software they will be in trouble. And then they can try and prove my software change damaged the hardware.
I thought it was the other way around?
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I can't wait to root mine. Good thing is that it won't affect the warranty unlike the Nexus One.
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Also, don't forget that HTC has access to early builds and source of future versions because they are building terminals based on it. Porting Sense is probably being done right now, they don't have to wait like we do.
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I thought it was the other way around?
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It's not check the thread I made "Rooting and warranty statement"
My missus works for Vodafone and had a visit from HTC last week promoting the Legend and Desire. They told her that 2.2 would be coming to both but she didn't think to ask when.
So, yes.
Noiz said:
My missus works for Vodafone and had a visit from HTC last week promoting the Legend and Desire. They told her that 2.2 would be coming to both but she didn't think to ask when.
So, yes.
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Your wife has made many people here very happy...
Joking aside that's really good news
Is there going to be an upgrade for the desire ?
Would love that ! (Flash)
Any body got some info ?
of course will be, the question is when?
thats quick ....
Are we talking months or weeks untill 'droid 2.2 comes out
The internet is being a bit tight lipped.
The deisre is lovely, but not finished yet.
flash is nice, divx is vital and 720p video is something I wsan't expecting...
How are we going to get it when its released?
Will it be a user ROM style hardware flash through PC sync or will i just download a file to my phone, click go and 10minutes later my phone is amazing??
(i'm having fun wiping smug faces of iphone owning freinds as they ask what phone I have and i show them, then tell them I've got it for £15/mnth )
you'll get it here on XDA as usual. ready to be flashed on your device as any other ROM
2.2 aka Froyo: maybe next week!!!
I read this on engadget:
Engadget's post about Froyo
I don't really want to root my phone as it's I think really good as it is but I wouldn't say no to Froyo! especially since it apparently boosts performance a lot!
Quote form Engadget: "Update: How much faster is a Nexus One running Froyo? 450 percent faster, according to the Android Police. They claim to have a device running the as-yet-unreleased firmware that can perform over 37 million floating-point operations per second in the Linpack benchmark... compared to about 7 megaflops without. Oh yeeaaah."
As soon as a Froyo rom leaks, people will rip it apart and mod it to hell to get it to run on all kinds of devices. I'm sure we'll see Paul make a 2.2 Desire ROM, for example and now that HTC has released the Kernel source code, it should be easier to port existing quality roms like Cyanogenmod to the device. They'll all require root access to flash as they're unofficial roms. HTC will probably eventually port Froyo themselves, but that will probably take months.
Still, 2.2 hasn't shown up yet, so no dice. We'll have to wait until google I/O before that happens
it's going to be loooong till HTC themselves release it..but as soon as its out for nexus we'll see it here on xda in no time!
If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.
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If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.
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Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire
will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??
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will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??
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It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.
pistonripper said:
It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.
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Oh don't be so dramatic. I could fit loads on mine just fine. And i rooted and installed apps2sd anyway. Don't get any Android phone if you expect to be able to install millions of apps.
Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months
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Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire
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Same here, haha, I think many people have done this. Nexus one was not available yet in my country so I purchased the Desire. Will definitely flash 2.2 on this baby though. No way i am going to wait for HTC anymore.
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Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months
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Months?? Seeing how things are going with the hero, I'd say they'll release it to the desire once the 2.3 is out. So better think of it as next year.
IMO Desire's owners are very important for HTC, since we are buying their flagship phones. I think they must keep us satisfied, if not, we will buy different phone next time. And I won't be happy if Nexus One owners will get 2.2 and we will not.
BTW isnt the evo 4g an Android 2.2 phone quz 2.1 didn't support 4g correct me if im wrong but if it is the update for the desire wont cost them so much time to port.
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I've recently read that the Evo 4G will be an 2.1 phone as well :/
450% FASTER?! HOLYY SHIITT!!! I cant waaiiit!!!
I feel I should w8 will it allow apps 2sd?
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Depends how long you're willing to wait
Froyo should include A2SD, but who knows when HTC comes up with the 2.2 upgrade for Desire.
this is true...however should b fairly quick its the flag ship Android mobile can't see another 4release in conjunction with 2.2 release
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I'm waiting ;-). Everything that I need the phone to do, it does... SO no real need to update as of yet. Will probably wait for official updates as I prefer official releases (possibly less bugs etc)
Moved to General Desire Forum.
Don't see where this hooks into Development or Rom cooking.
sorry thought it was ok here
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Isn't the whole point of 2.2(FroYo) that the Android segmentation is abolished and that we would be downloading Sense UI from the market.
If this is true we should all expect 2.2 the moment it is released as it will be a generic, basic Google ROM, then we would just have to wait for HTC to update Sense for 2.2 and we would be able to download that and off we go!
I am not sure if I am correct but this is the way I understood Android to be going.
i am actually, kinda scared of rooting im not 100% sure but seen somwhere a news bout release being sometime in the summer may-june think it was
I'm of those waiting... unless I can find a quick, simple and automated way of backing up and restoring everything about my current phone fast, it 'ain't happening until I see 2.2.
Many other reasons... including too many unknowns, unsubstantiated unclears, bricking not being an option for me in these months and so forth.
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Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we all know how slow they are with those!
That is the big deal. Android 2.2 will come maybe next month, but when HTC 'come' with their update, who knows...
rovex said:
Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we all know how slow they are with those!
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The big difference here is the existence of the Nexus One, which will get an update pretty much straight away.
Since the Desire is very close hardware wise to the Nexus One, I'd hope that it wouldn't take too long to "Sensify" 2.2 and get an update out to Desire users. Failing that, if you're rooted, they'll be cooked 2.2 Nexus ROMs out for the Desire in fairly short order.
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Dave
I was waiting, but ended up rooting tonight. I reckon SetCPU alone was worth rooting for.
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I was waiting, but ended up rooting tonight. I reckon SetCPU alone was worth rooting for.
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Actually, SetCPU will have no effect when running on rooted Desires.
When I pull the sliders across, it seems to have no effect, and the green max and min frequencies remain unchanged. HTC has a driver that they implement which keeps overriding SetCPU. We need to hope they (HTC) release the Kernel source. Once this happens, there will surely be a release of a modified Kernel with SetCPU support and overclocking/undervolting (assuming the CPUs in the Desire are binned the same way as the CPUs in the Nexus, this should yield a 10% overclock and better battery life).
Problem is HTC is really slow in releasing the source, it's borderline, illegal, and very irritating.
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Actually, SetCPU will have no effect when running on rooted Desires.
When I pull the sliders across, it seems to have no effect, and the green max and min frequencies remain unchanged. HTC has a driver that they implement which keeps overriding SetCPU.
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I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but my sliders seem to work fine. The widget display claims my speeds are scaling too, and my battery life seems remarkably improved, though that could be due to running the MCR. I don't know.
[EDIT] I see what you mean about the sliders now. Battery life still seems better though?
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Isn't the whole point of 2.2(FroYo) that the Android segmentation is abolished and that we would be downloading Sense UI from the market.
If this is true we should all expect 2.2 the moment it is released as it will be a generic, basic Google ROM, then we would just have to wait for HTC to update Sense for 2.2 and we would be able to download that and off we go!
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I wouldn't have thought so. I wouldn't like to be Orange, dealing with thousands of customers who updated their phone (or had their phone automatically apply an update) and who've suddenly lost functionality/apps etc.
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I wouldn't have thought so. I wouldn't like to be Orange, dealing with thousands of customers who updated their phone (or had their phone automatically apply an update) and who've suddenly lost functionality/apps etc.
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See I thought this was the whole point of FroYo. We all get the basic Google Rom (maybe with a few service provider tweaks) then we download UI of our choice from the market.
Apart from service providers having to mess around with the Rom there's no reason why we should be waiting for months to get it. Most people in this thread seem to give the impression that we won't see 2.2 for ages while HTC upgrade Sense(I assume there's a few ex-hero users in here). This isn't true though, we'll be running 2.2 and waiting for a download of sense via the market. yeah?
Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we
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The big difference here is the existence of the Nexus One, which will get an update pretty much straight away.
Since the Desire is very close hardware wise to the Nexus One, I'd hope that it wouldn't take too long to "Sensify" 2.2 and get an update out to Desire users. Failing that, if you're rooted, they'll be cooked 2.2 Nexus ROMs out for the Desire in fairly short order.
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the only problem with this is... nexus one is updated by GOOGLE and the desire is not.... the nexus one will be the first to get 2.2 and from there im betting other devices wont see it till acouple months later...i bet the droid will see it before the desire...sense ui jus slows down the update process..
I can't wait until Froyo gets here!!!
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the only problem with this is... nexus one is updated by GOOGLE and the desire is not.... the nexus one will be the first to get 2.2 and from there im betting other devices wont see it till acouple months later...i bet the droid will see it before the desire...sense ui jus slows down the update process..
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Can I ask why you think this? I reckon we'll get 2.2 the same time as the Nexus . If everything I've read about 2.2 is correct then Sense will just be released to the market when it's updated for us to download.
am I really wrong or the only person in this thread who understands what's going on with 2.2?
According to this BBC article published today (17 May 2011) all android version with the exception of 2.3.4 version can expose personal data during the identification (Edit: Authentication) process with google services. A bad news ineed.
The good news, though, is that if this problem is publicised enough then it will force companies like Motorola to provide up-to-date version of android for their handsets. Of course not all old handsets can be upgraded but we all know Defy is very capable phone in terms of Android 2.3.4.
I'm still waiting for Froyo 2.2 upgrade, in the UK, and so furious with Motorola over this. Anyways, that matter is for another post.
yeah, tell me about it. I bought the phone from tmobile on date of launch... was told q1, then q2, now end of year... ahhh LOL
This doesn't mean anything. If the flaw is really critical, then I guess Google just release a patch for the module that's responsible for authentication - they won't force all carriers to update the whole system. Instead only some small fix may be pushed to affected devices.
Google announced today they will fix the problem on server-side.
Don't get it really, if plain text was sent out to google servers how the problem could be fixed on server-side? Also if no fix is necessary on the client side then why Android 2.3.4 was modified to encrypt data before sending it to the google?
Maybe this is me not understanding what the problem was. I found it difficult to imagine google would lie about the fix solution.
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This doesn't mean anything. If the flaw is really critical, then I guess Google just release a patch for the module that's responsible for authentication - they won't force all carriers to update the whole system. Instead only some small fix may be pushed to affected devices.
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If Motorola is not going to give us 2.3.4 then they will have to release 2.2.3 to us if the solution turned out ineffective on the server-side.
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yeah, tell me about it. I bought the phone from tmobile on date of launch... was told q1, then q2, now end of year... ahhh LOL
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I really like (previously loved it) my Defy but can't understand why I have purchased a product about six months ago that I couldn't use many features that I wanted from day one. Many apps (email in particular) work properly from 2.2 and above.
I will only buy another phone from Motorola if it had the latest Android installed on it. I don't believe they are shipping Atrix with 2.2. Motorola will have the same attitude towards Atrix upgrade too.
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I really like (previously loved it) my Defy but can't understand why I have purchased a product about six months ago that I couldn't use many features that I wanted from day one. Many apps (email in particular) work properly from 2.2 and above.
I will only buy another phone from Motorola if it had the latest Android installed on it. I don't believe they are shipping Atrix with 2.2. Motorola will have the same attitude towards Atrix upgrade too.
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Yeah? Well, email that didn't work on 2.1 still doesn't work on 2.2. For me anyway. Browser was way better in 2.1. Screen seems a bit smoother -- marginally. But you can move some apps to SD card.
you all should use cm7. it still has some bugs, but nothing serious, and its waay better and faster than motorolas softwares. plus its 2.3.4
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scrannel said:
Yeah? Well, email that didn't work on 2.1 still doesn't work on 2.2. For me anyway. Browser was way better in 2.1. Screen seems a bit smoother -- marginally. But you can move some apps to SD card.
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Are you using the official 2.2 rom from Motorola?
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you all should use cm7. it still has some bugs, but nothing serious, and its waay better and faster than motorolas softwares. plus its 2.3.4
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If Defy officialy remains on Android 2.2 then I will be looking for alternative roms without caring about the warranty.
I've been checking the tech news blogs pretty much every day for the past week now waiting on word of HTC's official 2.3 release for the Desire. I'm really curious what they're going to do for the update!
Just for fun (and to kill some time in between), I was wondering what you all thought HTC might do... I'm doubtful of all the chatter saying they'll be putting out stock Gingerbread for this update. I'd guess (and am hopeful) they'll be putting a more streamlined version of Sense on the phone. Personally I really dig the skin.
But I'm even *more* hopeful they'll leave so much damned space left over on the ROM I won't have to worry about low disk space notifications ever again (even though indie developers fixed that a long time ago).
By the way, long time xda reader, first time poster. Thanks for everything.
Quick Office,
Facebook,
Google Maps,
Google Search,
You Tube,
Google Voice Search,
Think some or all of above will go as I can't think of much else from FroYo ROM can be downloaded from Market.
Plurk will probably be gone too from leaked GB
I think they should move some bits to HTC Hub though like Teeter and Stocks.
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But I'm even *more* hopeful they'll leave so much damned space left over on the ROM I won't have to worry about low disk space notifications ever again (even though indie developers fixed that a long time ago).
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Doubtful. The initial reason for Gingerbread not coming to the Desire was lack of space - which is true because the amount available on the Desire is abysmal compared to most other phones and you can't change the HBoot partition layout with an RUU/OTA because of S-On (to my knowledge). So to get Gingerbread and Sense on there they'll need to strip it out just to fit and move stuff around, you'll likely end up with less space than before.
I'd wait till it's released and A2SD+ is added by one of our resident geniuses.
YAY! Yet another "Official 2.3.3 ROM" post! (3 a day is just is just slacking these days!)
HTC will release a OLD version of sense, if not 1.9 then 2.0 on 2.3.3.... i will be very surprised (and impressed) if they could fit any thing newer into the phones stock memory, even if they got sense into it the phone carriers still want to put there crappy apps on top of it to make it to big for the phone.
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Doubtful. The initial reason for Gingerbread not coming to the Desire was lack of space - which is true because the amount available on the Desire is abysmal compared to most other phones and you can't change the HBoot partition layout with an RUU/OTA because of S-On (to my knowledge). So to get Gingerbread and Sense on there they'll need to strip it out just to fit and move stuff around, you'll likely end up with less space than before.
I'd wait till it's released and A2SD+ is added by one of our resident geniuses.
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Well sure they can change partition layout. S-on just means that the bootloader only allows flashing of files signed with the right signature. HTC will of course have this signature, and they use it to sign every update and ruu.
So yes they can indeed flash another bootloader both using ota and ruu, so if they want to, they can change the partition layout.
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YAY! Yet another "Official 2.3.3 ROM" post! (3 a day is just is just slacking these days!)
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This one doesn't actually pretend to be a '2.3 is coming' thread though - from the offset it says that it is to guess what's changed in the release when it comes.
If all they are doing is removing apps then all they can realistically remove are the ones dev's normally remove/update from a release anyway, being google's apps that are in the market, and quickoffice and facebook.
Everything else I think is sense/HTC related
Since they don't elude to moving anything like teeter/stocks to HTC Hub to be downloaded if one so wishes, which would be the only other sensible thing to try and squeeze a little more space out of the phone, (other than changing partition sizes which I doubt will happen)
I myself have also been eagerly waiting on stock gingerbread. Never took the plunge to run a custom rom, because stock froyo still runs super smooth, after almost a year. Now that htc claims to remove apps to make room for gingerbread + sense, Im starting to wonder whether the amount of free space will be even less than there is now. The internal storage problem has been my only issue. Knowing it will decrease even more when gingerbread is released, I dont see any benefits to the update, apart from having official gingerbread for the desire, which can be used to make custom roms lacking the internal storage issue.
Guessing on the content or perhaps lack thereof.
HTC is most likely not going to be messing with the HBoot layout, since that would mean user data would be lost. I'm sure that's not acceptable for an OTA.
So all that's left for them is to remove extra apps they loaded into the system partition to make space for whatever components have grown.
Pretty sure things like Plurk and a few others will face the axe.
The version of Sense will be anyones guess, however seeing they put out a test rom with the version of sense that was already on the desire and it fit the existing hboot layout: I'm betting it going to be a more recent version of sense, else they would not need the extra space from removing apps.
Yeah, I never tried to imply this was an "official" release thread... just wanted to shoot the breeze about what you thought might come out from HTC. I think most of you got that, though.
According to HTC's Desire/Gingerbread Update page on Facebook they're supposed to be announcing a release schedule early this week. Seeing as it's Tuesday already we should be hearing something soon.
As for repartitioning the HBOOT layout, I do recall reading somewhere (I can't remember where now) that this update might only be available as an install file to use with HTC Sync and not an OTA update. Again, this was just a rumor I read somewhere, but that might make some sense as most everyone who is rabid for an official 2.3 release would most likely know how to apply that update, and would be able to cope with their contacts/settings being wiped. Casual users, on the other hand, might not be able to deal with that, but also not care so much about updating to GB.
Anyway, still waiting...
I dont care much for sense or which version they will include, i run launcherpro anyways im just happy we will get gingerbread after all and they can remove all lame social apps that i dont use anyways.
Yes those social apps are so ANYOING... I dunno why there are included? I can go to Facebook witout stupid app...
Houpe for 2.1 (3) Sense and striped GingerBread without Google Voice Search, Facebook, HTC Wallpapers, Google Search, You Tube
average joe probably wants facebook preinstalled.
Rageypeep said:
YAY! Yet another "Official 2.3.3 ROM" post! (3 a day is just is just slacking these days!)
HTC will release a OLD version of sense, if not 1.9 then 2.0 on 2.3.3.... i will be very surprised (and impressed) if they could fit any thing newer into the phones stock memory, even if they got sense into it the phone carriers still want to put there crappy apps on top of it to make it to big for the phone.
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YAY! Yet another wanna be Mod. You knew by the title what the thread was about so why did you click on it and open the thread??
Facebook, Twitter, etc are what I want to remove.
Anyway, while waiting for the official 2.3, I managed to root the Desire. And I'm told that by rooting, I would not get OTA updates anymore. I will try to flash a 2.3 before the official one comes out.
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Facebook, Twitter, etc are what I want to remove.
Anyway, while waiting for the official 2.3, I managed to root the Desire. And I'm told that by rooting, I would not get OTA updates anymore. I will try to flash a 2.3 before the official one comes out.
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Google+ will be the next one then!
Well here in Aus, Telstra (the telcom who distribute the Desire exclusively) are planning to go ahead with the whole stock AOSP gingerbread update. Dunno how it will work... I'm sure quite a few unknowing owners are going to have a shock when they upgrade to find no Sense anymore (whether that be a good or bad thing for them).
Can't see HTC allowing that as Sense is what they sell as there unique selling point. They wouldn't remove Sense to please a few customers
nqk, I've been running Insertcoin on my Desire for the past few days... I highly recommend it. Haven't looked back since installing.
OK so it's Thursday now, which definitely qualifies as *later* in the week. Seems to me like HTC's hitting some road bumps on this update. (Am I being too hard on their software engineers?)
EddyOS said:
Can't see HTC allowing that as Sense is what they sell as there unique selling point. They wouldn't remove Sense to please a few customers
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I agree -
so... how's the Sensation?
It's awesome!! SO much better than the Desire IMO. Slight possibility my Aunt just got an unbranded unit so possible swaps on the cards Anyway, this from HTC UK's FB page this morning:
"Update: 30.06.11
Hi all- We're excited to share that we are testing our build of Gingerbread for HTC Desire and will start doing quality assurance for it this week. When we have an update on availability we'll post another announcement. Thanks for your patience."
Nearly there...