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Hello,
I'm having some problems about playing 720p videos from HTC Desire Z. It plays some 720p videos smoothly which are recorded by itself (also there is a fps problem in there, some are about 19fps).
I wonder which {container, codec} we should use to play 720p videos smooth. I tried with several media players like Vplayer, Moboplayer, Rockplayer and Android's default media player.
I tried some files. Here their properties:
Container: MKV
Video Codec: H264
Audio Codec: AC3
Overall Bitrate: ~4.5Mbps
Length: 71min
Size: 2.2GB
This was a concert video.
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Container: MKV
Video Codec: H264
Audio Codec: AC3
Overall Bitrate: ~4.5Mbps
Length: 40min
Size: 1.1GB
This was a tv show.
Rockplayer can play this videos but not smooth enough. It freezes for 5-10 milliseconds at every 1-2 seconds.
Using stock 2.3.3 ROM and stock SD Card.
Phone can play 480p videos smoothly but I think it can play 720p videos since it can record 720p videos.
Thanks in advance.
The DZ isn't actually powerful enough to play 720p videos from an external source. I can barely play 480p AVI smoothly. MKV and MP4 are a total lost cause for me. Haven't tried after I installed Virtuous 2.0 and had it OC'd to 1.5GHz though.
ArmedandDangerous said:
The DZ isn't actually powerful enough to play 720p videos from an external source. I can barely play 480p AVI smoothly. MKV and MP4 are a total lost cause for me. Haven't tried after I installed Virtuous 2.0 and had it OC'd to 1.5GHz though.
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As far as I know, DZ has hardware decoding for 720p videos. So it can play 720p videos and DZ records with 8mbps and encodes with h264 and its container is 3gp. Only difference is container. Maybe changing container will fix this but I tried with avi, mkv. Maybe I should try with 3gp container.
Anyone tried?
Try dice player
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tcchuin said:
Try dice player
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Tried with its trial version but it says "sorry, this video can not be played" when i try to play video which I mentioned at my first post (tv show one) and also another video which is a mp4 video.
DicePlayer can not play any video in the phone
I use Rock Player Lite and it can play MP4 vids properly. Granted, I just OC'd my DZ to 1.5GHz, and an MP4 file encoded in h.264 with an average bitrate of 1.5kbps plays flawlessly. At stock speeds the audio goes out of sync and artefacts get introduced. Haven't tried MKV files since I OC'd yet though. Software decoding in RPL.
Hardware decode basically is the same as the default media player, software decoding takes up more CPU resources, but is able to play more formats and containers.
I haven't found any way to reliably open mkv container on desire z. MX video player by far does the best job (and yes, I've used other players like rockplayer, dice player, etc) but it still plays 720p mkv h264 slightly choppy. 720p h264 mp4 plays fine with software and hardware decoder, while 720 avi xvid can play smoothly on a small overclock.
I try to avoid 720 anyway because the difference between 720 and 480 on a 3.7inch screen is barely visible to me lol
Exactly lol. As long as it can play 480 on the DZ it's more than fine by me. 720p on a 480x800 screen... ~_~
MX Video Player.. Never heard of it. Gonna search and try that out. How does it compare to Rock Player?
i really liked rockplayer for a long time until i found out mx player had software codecs tweaked for ARMv7. Check it out on the market, its free anyway lol
I tried mx player but still there is the same problem.
I also tried to change the container to mp4. PC plays well but when I try to play on phone, video is smooth but there is no sound and audio codec is ac3. Maybe the problem is here.
I tried with rockplayer using software decoding, there is sound but laggy video.
Try MX with SW. Works fine on any container and format so far for me.
ArmedandDangerous said:
Try MX with SW. Works fine on any container and format so far for me.
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Tried in 3 available mode in MX Player but still laggy video
The trick is to use video in the correct settings for the hardware decoder. If you do that then it won't matter if it's in mkv or mp4.
For the video portion, use baseline profile h.264 with the maximum bitrate (VBV) capped at 8mbps up to 720p
For audio, use AAC-LC in stereo.
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ChronoReverse said:
The trick is to use video in the correct settings for the hardware decoder. If you do that then it won't matter if it's in mkv or mp4.
For the video portion, use baseline profile h.264 with the maximum bitrate (VBV) capped at 8mbps up to 720p
For audio, use AAC-LC in stereo.
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I think so. But there is a problem when playing MKV files. There is problem after I changed container to mp4, though.
But the audio codecs of videos which I tried are not AAC. Maybe this causes the problem.
I don't know, how hard can it be to play videos which have AAC audios.
Use Handbrake to encode and it'll be easy to specify AAC for audio. You can use the iphone profile for encoding.
Hi again,
I've solved my problem. I use dice player which plays 720p mkv videos (even with ac3 audio codec).
I wrote here dice player can't play any video in the phone. That was a hardware decoding problem, I think. When I try to play an unsupported video format with hardware decoding, hardware decoding crashes and unable to play videos as it should be.
So, after that if I restart the phone hardware decoding comes back and plays videos perfectly.
Is this a common issue? If it is not should I do a factory reset to my phone?
To be honest, with our default 800*480 screen, we would not be able to take advantage of 720p quality as 720p is 1280*720 (Unless we stream it to a HDTV or Monitor). Re-encoding it to 800*450 is wiser to conserve file size as well
found this recommended settings at afterdawn for Handbrake or MEGUI. Tried it with rockplayer hardware decoding and it is smooth i used mp4 format
full link is here http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/converting_video_for_the_htc_desire_z.cfm
Code:
Recommended Video Options
Format H.264 (MPEG-4 AVC)
Profile Baseline
Level 3
Average Bitrate 800kbps - 1800kbps
Max Resolution 800×480 @ 24fps
800×480 @ 25fps
800×432 @ 30fps
768×448 @ 30fps
720×480 @ 30fps
Maximum GOP Length 250
Minimum GOP Length 25
B-frames None
CABAC Off
Other Recommended Settings
Audio Format AAC
Audio Channels 2
Audio Bitrate 128kbps - 256kbps
Container (File Type) MP4*
Subtitle Format Timed Text or SRT **
Does anyone know how to do that without using Diceplayer ?
Edit: OK will this be moved to Q&A forum ?
what video codec?
Jaqb said:
Does anyone know how to do that without using Diceplayer ?
Edit: OK will this be moved to Q&A forum ?
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Use MX Player instead?
mmace said:
what video codec?
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H.264 codec
chandlerweb said:
Use MX Player instead?
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I have tried this one already....it does not support AC3 thus no sound
dice player?
predation said:
dice player?
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Thanks for your input, but have you read my 1st post....?
Diceplayer works but I can't use Google's Checkout so I'm looking for alternatives.
So far I've tried: QQPlayer, Moboplayer, Mx Video Player, RockPlayer, BSplayer and Vplayer.
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Thanks for your input, but have you read my 1st post....?
Diceplayer works but I can't use Google's Checkout so I'm looking for alternatives.
So far I've tried: QQPlayer, Moboplayer, Mx Video Player, RockPlayer and Vplayer.
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you can't purchase anything from the market place?????
dice player can be purchased on the market place.
Exactly...I can't purchase anything from the Market.
Do you use dice player ? If so, do you also find the volume of AC3 too low or is it just me.....(I used dice player trial to test it)
Jaqb said:
Exactly...I can't purchase anything from the Market.
Do you use dice player ? If so, do you also find the volume of AC3 too low or is it just me.....(I used dice player trial to test it)
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AC3 through 'stereo' is always quite. at least, 'quiter' then intended. reason being is that AC3 is a format in which the audio is split into multiple channels rather then just the standard 2 channel stereo.
when you attempt to play an AC3 via stereo it then compresses the channels down to 'stereo' and in the process it loses a bit(which is why it gets quiet).
I can play h.264 720p mkv's with ES Explorer's video player... I doubt it's the best player but was a bit impressed that it decoded them fine.
djmcnz said:
I can play h.264 720p mkv's with ES Explorer's video player... I doubt it's the best player but was a bit impressed that it decoded them fine.
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How do I choose ES Explorer's player ? It doesn't give me this option. (btw ICS player h.264 with no problem in default player, the whole problem is with AC3 sound....have you tried mkv with ac3 ? )
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How do I choose ES Explorer's player ? It doesn't give me this option. (btw ICS player h.264 with no problem in default player, the whole problem is with AC3 sound....have you tried mkv with ac3 ? )
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I didn't realise h.264 was native and no, I not tried with AC3.
For ES I just select a video, long press, open-as, video, ES Player.
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I didn't realise h.264 was native and no, I not tried with AC3.
For ES I just select a video, long press, open-as, video, ES Player.
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I have manage to open it with ES Player through the galery.....ES explorer didnt have the ES Player option (Weird) ....but as I thought it doesn't support AC3 codec thus still no sound
Have you already tried BSplayer Lite?
Pierre118 said:
Have you already tried BSplayer Lite?
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I wasn't sure anymore so I've tried it. It turns out I did test it before....same problem as with i.e. Vplayer no Hardware decoding and Software decoding is too slow for 720p playback. Although AC3 plays fine in software mode.
OK guys, I have found the answer on my own...
MX Video Player in SW Fast Mode plays MKV(h.264 in 720p) with AC3 with almost no fps loss.
mx vedio and chose sound s/w
not h/d
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mx vedio and chose sound s/w
not h/d
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This works indeed but not on all my videos....
To sum up: MX Video Player = best free player.
So if you set Video on [HW] and Sound on [SW] it works on most MKV videos with x264 and AC3 but on some files the video and audio are out of sync then you need to change the Video to one of the two [SW] modes.
my Nexus' keeps freezing up whenever i try to play one of these 720P (ac3) .mkv files. once it's frozen i can't do anything with the phone and then have to pull the battery. even in that MX video player... it'll show that it's attempting to open the video and then BAM!.. frozen.
it's funny because the Rezound can handle these files no problem in multiple apps(Dice Player, Mobo Player, MX Video Player).. so why is it such a pain with the Nexus?
I'm trying to find a video player for movies and TV shows that has hardware decoding that works. I mostly play Xvid avi files and some x264 mkv/mp4s. I've tried MX PLayer, but h/w and h/w+ decoding is slow and choppy.
Any suggestions?
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I'm trying to find a video player for movies and TV shows that has hardware decoding that works. I mostly play Xvid avi files and some x264 mkv/mp4s. I've tried MX PLayer, but h/w and h/w+ decoding is slow and choppy.
Any suggestions?
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MX player is the best. Try Dice Player though.
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akira02rex said:
MX player is the best. Try Dice Player though.
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I like MX Player too, but hardware decoding is slow and choppy.
micah197 said:
The Gnex doesn't seem to be very good at HW decoding Xvid AVIs (one has to use an SW decoder, really) but it is very capable at playing any sort of x264/H.264/AVC video in MP4 and MKV containers even up to 1080p resolution. I normally use MX player's HW+ decoder for these and it works brilliantly.
For your AVIs you'll need to try out the SW decoder, the GPU just can't handle acceleration of them. The specs for the Gnex list that it can only play MP4/H.264/H.263 anyway so it's not a surprise. As long as the Xvid AVIs aren't in HD MX Player's SW decoder should be able to handle them perfectly, that's what I find anyway.
Another option that hasn't got as nice an interface but is very capable is BSPlayer, it also works very well but cannot get around the fact that the GPU can't handle XVID.
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Thank you for the helpful and informative reply, just what I needed!
Hi,
i have problems with 1080p MKV and MP4 playback.
When i playback a movie with 1080p and Hardware Decoding, I get terrible blocking and freezing (strainge colours, green Pixel and so on).
I tested with MX-Player (H/W+), VLC Player, Plex and XBMC. The result is always the same.
When i use the same file in ts oder m2ts - Format, then everything is ok.
So i tested to create the mkv and mp4 File with different Tools: mkvmerge, ffmpeg, makemkv, mp4box and so on..
Always Errors and terrible playback.
Is there a trick or can the device handle HD only in *.ts without Errors???
stehohrhase said:
Hi,
i have problems with 1080p MKV and MP4 playback.
When i playback a movie with 1080p and Hardware Decoding, I get terrible blocking and freezing (strainge colours, green Pixel and so on).
I tested with MX-Player (H/W+), VLC Player, Plex and XBMC. The result is always the same.
When i use the same file in ts oder m2ts - Format, then everything is ok.
So i tested to create the mkv and mp4 File with different Tools: mkvmerge, ffmpeg, makemkv, mp4box and so on..
Always Errors and terrible playback.
Is there a trick or can the device handle HD only in *.ts without Errors???
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I'm able to play 1080p mkv files and mp4 files without issue. I actually download a lot of 1080p movie trailer in mp4 format to my tablet. However, I normally use Archos Video player or BS player though as the hardware acceleration appears to be better on them than other video players I've tried.
I use mx player and never have an issue, have you tried the software codec for mx?
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Try archos and the achos free codec pack.
MX player
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so, i tested more:
Archos has the best Performance. you only see sometimes litte stuttering. But the PGS-Subtitles are not shown -((
BS-Player has Picture -Errors
MX-Player in S/W and H/W Looks ok, but not enough Performance for full framerate Decoding.H/W+ Decoder has enogh Performance, but the same Errors in the Picture like BS-Player, Plex, XBMC abd so on.
I don't understand why... the Problem ist not all movies... and this are not the movies withe the highets Bitrate. convert to ts looks good.
I put a short sample online.. mail me, if you are interessed to verify and help... I can not post the link here.. (new user board-rule)
I just streamed a 1080p mkv from my WD Live network drive with no stuttering or sound issues. I use Archos player and the free codec pack.
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i have the P605 with quadcore. has this other gpu than the P600 octagon ?
stehohrhase said:
Hi,
i have problems with 1080p MKV and MP4 playback.
When i playback a movie with 1080p and Hardware Decoding, I get terrible blocking and freezing (strainge colours, green Pixel and so on).
I tested with MX-Player (H/W+), VLC Player, Plex and XBMC. The result is always the same.
When i use the same file in ts oder m2ts - Format, then everything is ok.
So i tested to create the mkv and mp4 File with different Tools: mkvmerge, ffmpeg, makemkv, mp4box and so on..
Always Errors and terrible playback.
Is there a trick or can the device handle HD only in *.ts without Errors???
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maybe is not the resolution but profile... 10bits encoding or 8bits encoding?
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i have the P605 with quadcore. has this other gpu than the P600 octagon ?
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hey, stehohrhase, has this resolved with different player? I am tempted to buy p605, but I don't want to buy one that has issue with video playback.
angilinmago said:
hey, stehohrhase, has this resolved with different player? I am tempted to buy p605, but I don't want to buy one that has issue with video playback.
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i guess is not the player... TS is just the container... this device can handle 1080p
no issues
I use MK player with no issues even in FULL HD movies!
Maybe your files (muvies) are stored in ExtStorage (microSD).
Have you check your microSD card speed?
Try Dice Player its one of the best players out there, but for DTS audio you need "libffmpeg.so" from the attachment below.
Other than that try a test sample with video stream only and see if it plays fine, if it does then mux in the other streams one at a time until the problem returns.
10 bits encoding maybe?
Hello!
According to Snapdragon 820 specifications, this SoC can play 4K video with 10 bit HEVC encoding. Just for interest, i upload sample video (www.demo-uhd3d.com) and use MX and VLC players. But both of them plays videos very slow, looks like slideshow.
So not clear, why our device can not play such files? There are lack of needed codecs (that must be instaled by device manufacturer), or I need specific player?
Thank you.
Did you try different codecs in mx player app while playing?
ali nz said:
Did you try different codecs in mx player app while playing?
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Yes, of course. HW, HW+ - no one working. May there is error in fiel coding, but not celar what exactly causes this problem. Some users says that some 4K files can be played.
heavy-razzer said:
Some users says that some 4K files can be played..
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Easily.. I mean mostly 4K files can be played..
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Downloaded the Transformers_extinction_Trailer_4K UHD, 10bit, from your site you provided and it played without any issues using mx player pro with the 1. 8.6 audio codec to play AC3.
VLC and Power DVD couldn't play it.