Hi,
Im totally new to phone flashing, rooting etc. Please answer few of my questions before I make something bad to my beloved Desire
I have Wavesecure installed. However it has a limitation based on Android ROM - application cannot start GPS by itself. Seems to be secure-issued thing. I do not want to discuss it - just found out that if I will root my Desire then Wavesecure is able to start GPS tracking based on my SMS.
This is very important for me as I find this feature "a must" if phone is stolen.
I do not want to change anything in my ROM, do not want to flash new roms - just need root for Wavesecure.
And here is my major question - if done with some of tutorials:
- will I be able to run smooth still my old HTC rom without any problems, data loss etc? So will it just have root feature and nothing changed?
- if HTC releases new firmware update - can I install it from HTC or I will have to skip?
- if I install HTC release - will I have to root again?
1) rooting with the Stock image is fine, and you will be able to create backups of your phone in the future (which is always helpful)
2) Yes you can install them but you loose your rootedness and as such use of wavesecure
3) as above and yes, but you dont have to stick with the HTC ROM's, the cooked ROMs on here are way more fun
Thanks!
Is there any good guide for rooting only with 0.8 bootloader? All I found is rooting+flashing and I would like to avoid flash.
Wants only to add root feature, do not change ROM and last but not least - do not loose any settings/data...
sorry but in order to root your phone you have to flash a new rom
you are currently using a htc official unrooted rom
you need to install a htc rooted rom (this is just the htc official rom (yours) with root features)
this will clear the data off your phone, however if you have enabled the default backup feature of the phone most of this will be backed up and restored, you can even download 3rd party software such as titanium backup and mybackup pro from the market
Thanks for the info.
So I think I will wait for official 2.2 ROM and then I'll flash. Should be in few days/weeks now as already got 2.1-update1 installed via HTC.
Indeed, i was running that 2 days ago and 2.2 will eventually drop, just give it a week or so after and the Cooked ROMS should be up to scratch
Hi everyone,
I've spent the last 6 hours or so with reading about all kinds of stuff, involving rooting your device, installing recovery images, installing custom ROMs (OS), etc., including how to backup your phone with Nandroid (or even easier, using the Rom Manager from the market).
I have a HTC Desire with Android 2.1-update1 (I am glad that I didn't update yet, as now I still have the old 0.80 bootloader). I'd like to try out different other Android versions (unlockr lists so many, they all look interesting). However, before, I'd like to backup my phone, that is, my Android 2.1 including the app and Android settings.
As it appears, I need to have "root" access. But why? From my understanding, everything I should need is a modified recovery image that has nandroid backup integrated. Please correct me if I am wrong, but if I use unrevoked3, won't that tool do exactly that for me, without having me to wipe my phone? I haven't used unrevoked3 yet, and unfortunately it doesn't tell you what this tool exactly does, e.g. it doesn't tell you whether it wipes your phone, and it also doesn't tell you how it is able to give you root access ... which I'm curious about, because downloading it does not involve downloading a update.zip with > 100 MB of size.
Aside from that, why do "root your phone" solutions always force me to wipe my phone? Isn't it possible to just "update" my phone OS from Desire's Android 2.1 to Desire's hacked 2.1 with root access??
Cheers!
Never mind. It's actually quite easy.
Just go to the Desire-root guide on rootmydroid co uk.
Just follow step 1. You get to back up your device without having to root it.
Will only work if the Desire is not updated to Android 2.2 (OTA update) yet.
hi.im new so please go easy
anyway my question is what the difference between debranded and rooted.i had stock o2 desire and put new rom on it and made the goldcard thing but aint sure if im rooted or what??i cant seem to get the ota update and aint sure what rom to upgrade for the new ota update(if there is one)also my camera goes split screen sometimes(kinda purple and pink)with 2 images sometimes.any help would be greatly appreciated.thanks H
First how did you put a new rom on it? If you made the goldcard and ran a .exe file on your computer you are debranded Explanation to follow:
Debranding: as the word says, this is about removing a certain branding(could be orange or in you case o2 software stuff) In order to do this we flash a stock(non rooted) rom directly from HTC without all the branding. This is normally only possible on unbranded phones, as branded ones should only be able to run a rom from whatever carrier branded it. Here we use the goldcard in order to make the phone accept original software from HTC and not only from the carrier. So the only difference made is, that we get rid of all the carrier stuff and only have original HTC firmware.
Rooting: this is very different, and as the name suggests, this is something we do to gain root access(full system access without limits from the software) to the system. This is done by placing a su-binary in /system/bin and the superuser.apk in /system/app, because then we can grant su-access to apps using the binary.
The actual root process is the hard part, because on stock phones, we cant place those files, so we must use some sort of security hole. On desire we use a hole, which lets us replace the recovery, and then we can use a custom recovery to place the su-files and get root.
thanks morten
would you have info on an easy to do root option for a dummy
i cant get the new update as my phone crashes everytime i try to install it,
plus i would like to get the full benefits of my handset and get some cool themes and stuff.if i root it does it affect the downloading of apps and stuff??many thanks H
Use this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788044. I did it last night and it works perfectly.
However, I now have a question. My phone is successfully rooted and I would like to set it up so that all apps run off the SD. I know this can be done, I have seen reference to apps2SD but I can´t work out what I need to do. Also, I presume I will lose everything on the SD at the moment?
I just unlocked the bootloader of the phone and lost all data including phone data of contacts and sd card data
Damn, never saw that coming, now what is the easiest way to install the CWM on Xperia Play.
I have root as well.
I want to do this before doing anything as I do not want to lose data again.
Please suggest. Basically I want this so that I can install ICS/other themes via flashable zip and also some tweaks.
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Maddy
I too would like to know this. Disappointed by lack of guides coming from the HTC Desire which was so hacker friendly and full of instructions. I've unlocked bootloader and rooted but there's hardly any roms plus don't even know how to install the ones that are available! Did my root install CWM?
Root does not install it, there are few ROMs which I have come across, but was struggling to find a proper install method w/o losing data.
I have been suggested this method which I am yet to try.
For now was moving apks to get the ICS look which I pretty much succeeded along with ADW Launcher.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130639
Will try the bootloader unlock and then you know but will take time.
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Maddy
There is this method of getting CWM without unlocking, Recovery for locked bootloaders. People have been reporting success from it
Ok. I would be glad if someone could point me in the right direction here, and answer this question.
I am planning on buying an Xplay, mainly for phoning and gaming. I am very keen on keeping the Xplay "clean" and fast, and therefore wish to remove all bloatware from the beginning.
Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on? What´s the best thing to do if I want to remove the bloatware. I might as well say that I´m pretty much a beginner when it comes to all the terms "rooting" and stuff. But I want to do it a safe way, without taking risks of breaking or bricking anything.
Thanks.
Some of the bloatware can be simply uninstalled, some cannot. For the latter you need to root your phone. I like to use SuperOneClick for rooting. Note that some firmwares (the ones whose version ends with .62 or greater) cannot be rooted, so I wouldn't update to them.
Once rooted, removing the bloatware is pretty simple. The most common way is to use Titanium Backup to uninstall it or you can even do it manually by deleting the relevant .apk files from /system/app.
Root your phone ,this is the first step that you must to do. After rooting ,you can remove bloatware from your phone and gain more free space on you internal memory.
I think that the best rooting way is the (zergRush Method):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
After rooting ,download 'Root Explorer' ,go to system/app and remove all the things you don't need.
If you are getting an AT&T Xplay I would suggest installing the generic north American rom which is 2.3.4 and missing the AT&T bloat. I backed up the games from the stock rom first then installed the NA rom and reinstalled them.
First use pc companion and install the latest update. Then root and remove bloat and get everything set up like your contacts and apps. After that install cwm and make a nandroid backup and start flashing roms! Back-up your info if the rom won't carry it over. Optional: Unlock bootloader before roms. There are plenty of stock based roms to for people with locked bootloaders.
EDIT: Don't do the below, just read you don't want risk!
1. Unlock the bootloader
2. Use flashtool to install a generic ROM .FTF file (.368 has CRT animation but is old, .42 is good, .62 is good)
3. Install a kernel (DooM's is great). This will allow you to overclock, and give automatic ROOT (no need to exploit or install anything else)
4. Buy/acquire an app called "Titanium Backup" (it needs ROOT to run), and check the guide in these forums for which apps are safe to remove
The first thing to do? Here's a list:
1. READ everything you can find related to your model version of the Play. There are different versions depending on where you are in the world and who your service provider is. If you have a GSM capable phone (Europe, Canada, ATT in US just to name a few), you will have a lot more modification options available. If you have a CDMA capable phone (Verizon), you have fewer choices but there are more coming almost every day.
2. READ again - you know you only understood maybe a 10th of what you just read!
3. POST specific questions AFTER you have searched the forums. Don't be afraid to try Google - that's what it's there for.
4. THINK !!! - what is it that you expect to get from modifying your phone that it doesn't do now? If you just want to remove bloatware, you can simply root, install a custom recovery, make a backup and then go to town. No need for unlocking the bootloader or loading a custom rom.
5. SLOW DOWN !!! - don't be in such a hurry to modify your phone that you leap before you look. Most bricked phones could be avoided in the first place by taking time to understand the steps involved before making changes.
6. DON'T PANIC !!! - There are very few things you can do to your phone that the experienced folks here on the forums can't help you resolved.
7. HAVE FUN !!!
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Potato13 said:
First use pc companion and install the latest update. Then root and remove bloat and get everything set up like your contacts and apps. After that install cwm and make a nandroid backup and start flashing roms! Back-up your info if the rom won't carry it over. Optional: Unlock bootloader before roms. There are plenty of stock based roms to for people with locked bootloaders.
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Not necessarily. If you install some of the latest updates, you no longer can root. That's why some research needs to be done first.
Search google and read xda forums on a daily basis. That's the shortest route lol
1. Root using zergrush or use flashtool rooting feature
2. Unlock bootloader (this will void your warranty)
3. Install clockworkmod 5.0.2.7 for xperia phones (get it free on play store fka android market)
4. Install titanium backup and perform batch backup of your apps to your sd card
5. Get doomlord's kernel v11 (link is on my signature) and wifi modules
6. Reboot into recovery and hold down or tap volume down to enter CWM recovery
7. Flash the kernel, then reboot and flash the wifi module
8. Flash your custom rom
9. There your phone is bricked! Haha
netizenmt said:
4. THINK !!! - what is it that you expect to get from modifying your phone that it doesn't do now? If you just want to remove bloatware, you can simply root, install a custom recovery, make a backup and then go to town. No need for unlocking the bootloader or loading a custom rom.
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Thanks for the input.
The only thing that I plan to do, is probably just remove bloatware and nothing more. So I guess it´s just down to rooting the phone then, and delete the things that I don´t want? No need for unlocking bootloaders etc.?
Is there a list of what stuff that can be deleted? Or other things that can be achieved by only rooting the phone?
And the last question. Is it totally ok to accept android updates after the rooting and removing of bloatware?
silmes said:
Thanks for the input.
The only thing that I plan to do, is probably just remove bloatware and nothing more. So I guess it´s just down to rooting the phone then, and delete the things that I don´t want? No need for unlocking bootloaders etc.?
Is there a list of what stuff that can be deleted? Or other things that can be achieved by only rooting the phone?
And the last question. Is it totally ok to accept android updates after the rooting and removing of bloatware?
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If you aren't going to get into custom kernels and overclocking, then no, you can do what you want without unlocking the bootloader.
There are some links in General and here in Q & A that make suggestions of what can be removed safely.
If you only rooted and didn't remove anything, you could accept updates. If you remove bloatware, the update won't even install. That's why I suggest installing CWM (ClockWorkMod) Recovery and doing a Nandroid Backup after you root but before you debloat.
Here are some useful links for you:
Rooted (Locked Bootloader) Phone - App Removal (Safe List)
[GUIDE] R800x owners - You got Custom ROM questions? I've got Answers!
The second one there was one I posted up for R800x users with locked bootloaders. It was all the stuff I had to glean for myself when mine was locked.
Hope this helps.
Sigh...hope this isn't too late.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23845116#post23845116
First thing: Root right away with Flashtool (http://androxyde.github.com/) and don't listen to the others, the Flashtool nowdays contains the Exploit that you need and it works perfect to root on 2.3.4 (I did it myself when I root'd mine the first time).
I am planning on buying an Xplay, mainly for phoning and gaming. I am very keen on keeping the Xplay "clean" and fast, and therefore wish to remove all bloatware from the beginning.
I recommend the Titanium Backup as all the others, and you can use this list as help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699&highlight=remove+app+list
Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
Q: Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
A: Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
The interesting thing is that the answer to this seems to differ on who you ask. Further back in this thread, someone advised me NOT to update, as it might lead to problems when trying to root my phone. What´s the deal here?
silmes said:
Q: Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
A: Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
The interesting thing is that the answer to this seems to differ on who you ask. Further back in this thread, someone advised me NOT to update, as it might lead to problems when trying to root my phone. What´s the deal here?
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If you update to the .62 firmware you can't root.
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silmes said:
Q: Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
A: Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
The interesting thing is that the answer to this seems to differ on who you ask. Further back in this thread, someone advised me NOT to update, as it might lead to problems when trying to root my phone. What´s the deal here?
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That's because it differs between models and some people aren't aware of that, while others like to be argumentative!
If you have a Verizon R800x Play, our firmware only goes up to Version 2.3.3 (3.0.1.E.0.88). If yours comes with 2.3.2, you're safe to update. You will be able to root with no problem.
If you have one of the other phones, you can apply updates below 4.0.2.A.0.62 and still root. .62 and higher, no root.
Check out this thread [HOW-TO] Root Phones w/ Android v2.2.x-2.3.x (zergRush Method) for additional information.