Is there a way to solve this (I've got a spare battery)? Any chance of getting an updated NBH?
robuser007 said:
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if your phone truly isn't charging the battery you can always hotwire it to the positive and negative wires from a clipped usb cord.
holding the wire to the terminals of the battery for a few minutes can get you running again.
however...
I have found that often if you just unplug the phone,remove the battery from the phone and then discharge the phone (pressing power button) then reinstall battery, you can then plug in the phone to get a charge...
let it charge for 15-20 minutes and then turn it on without the powercord.
resume charging once running.
I'd advise against the hotwiring method, since unless you have a lot of experience in wiring you run a risk of damaging something due to shorting wires, put it this way, I am experienced in electronics assembly, and wouldn't try this unless there was no other way.
However my method is similar to the one mnjm suggests, I have run out of battery once or twice on android, and I pull the battery, replace it, plug in the charger, wait until the light goes out, disconnect charger, pull and reinsert battery again, power on the phone, wait until it starts the second stage of booting, ( bootanimation), then plug in the charger. Usually works fine.
Or try this:
Pull the battery, replace it, plug in the charger, don't wait wait until the light goes out, power on the phone while light is ON.
I have run out of battery many times while testing battery patch an this always worked for me.
My battery meter was acting up lately and I decided to let my phone die. Let it run out of power to correct the battery meter. It was either 100% charged or less then 1% charge.
Now it won't boot. I see the X animation and nothing happens. I just keep watching the animation. The animation keeps resetting. I hate to think that my Android installation corrupted just by letting the battery run dry?
Will it even charge if I plug it in? I wanna try reinstalling Android to get it working again.
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Yep, corrupt installation.
I have no idea why draining the battery would do that, but it did. I reinstalled Android and it booted again.
My phone lost charge overnight the other day and I found plugging in usb power and using the hard reset button made it boot and then it would charge up OK.
Steve
zenity said:
I'd advise against the hotwiring method, .
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yeah...I was regretting typing that.
obviously if you are not confident in your understanding of what you are doing then AVOID playing with bare wires.
you don't have to fear electricity...
but you do need to respect it.
I know you are confident, just making sure people knew that there were potential dangers, it's not that a cut down usb lead is dangerous as far as shock hazards go, more the remote possibility that a shorted lead could perhaps cause major battery problems, since hotwiring them, while it does charge the battery, provides no short-circuit protection, it is remotely possible, (but unlikely), that this could cause fire hazards.
If I was really desperate I might do this with a zener diode rather than just bare wires.
I know we like messing with our phones, but also remember that the Darwin Awards exist because people sometimes let enthusiasm get ahead of their capabilities
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Yep, corrupt installation.
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One of the dangers, that's why it should be fixed in the NBH, any chances for a fix, anyone working on this at the moment ?
I'm thinking of buying the motorola milestone, but it's still expensive (350 euro's).
robuser007 said:
One of the dangers, that's why it should be fixed in the NBH, any chances for a fix, anyone working on this at the moment ?
I'm thinking of buying the motorola milestone, but it's still expensive (350 euro's).
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I can actually buy a phone with my upgrade discount, but I love my Kaiser too much to let it go. Plus it's a better learning experience when dealing with Android.
If I bought a new Android phone, I wouldn't do much of anything with it, besides use it as a smart phone.
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I know what you mean. When I use my hammer to smash aerosol cans, I'm always careful enough to cover my face with my hand. Can't be too careful.
I kid, I kid.
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I can actually buy a phone with my upgrade discount, but I love my Kaiser too much to let it go. Plus it's a better learning experience when dealing with Android.
If I bought a new Android phone, I wouldn't do much of anything with it, besides use it as a smart phone.
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I've seen that the milestone is still locked, no hardspl etc.
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I've seen that the milestone is still locked, no hardspl etc.
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Seriously? By the time they unlock it, there will be a new phone to buy.
Meh, besides, I never lose my old phones. They turn into "hand me downs". My sister has my old HTC Wizard right now. If things get really bad, I still have my old Nokia NGage. Yes, I own one of those.
Same thing has just happened to me, except I can't turn the phone back on at all now.
Was running the latest Kaiser NBH from DZO whilst using Myn's rom, I had a number of issues with battery life using android with it going from 75% charge to 0% and soft resetting by itself.
Anyways this time it hasn't woken up after doing just that, it was working fine then it turned off and I can't get it back on.
It just won't power on, there is no charging light but then again that only came on once android was booted never on startup with the android NBH, it was fine with Windows Mobile.
I have removed the battery, put it back in but nothing.
Swapped out for another working battery that I have spare, but nothing.
Tried a hard reset, still nothing.
It's just not starting at all now.
The phone was working and was on the side not charging and all of sudden it turned off and hasn't come back on since.
Bit annoyed.
ST1Cl<^^aN
Stickman89 said:
Same thing has just happened to me, except I can't turn the phone back on at all now.
Was running the latest Kaiser NBH from DZO whilst using Myn's rom, I had a number of issues with battery life using android with it going from 75% charge to 0% and soft resetting by itself.
Anyways this time it hasn't woken up after doing just that, it was working fine then it turned off and I can't get it back on.
It just won't power on, there is no charging light but then again that only came on once android was booted never on startup with the android NBH, it was fine with Windows Mobile.
I have removed the battery, put it back in but nothing.
Swapped out for another working battery that I have spare, but nothing.
Tried a hard reset, still nothing.
It's just not starting at all now.
The phone was working and was on the side not charging and all of sudden it turned off and hasn't come back on since.
Bit annoyed.
ST1Cl<^^aN
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Sorted it now, note to self and anyone else who has done this.
Usually what occurs is when the phone powers off when the battery has not been calibrated properly it requires you to do a hard reset using the stylus.
Anyway's I did that in the dark and accidentally pushed the stylus into the charger port on the phone and pushed a pin into another so It was short circuiting. Luckily I didn't damage the pins or the phone and was able to straighten it so it wasn't making contact with the other pins.
I'm happy again, its only really a test phone tbh, I have had a HTC Hero for some time now...
Best Regards,
ST1Cl<^^aN
Like most problems, it's due to the kernel. Even if the bugs get sorted out, there's still plenty of room for improvement.
Lets say the following is working 100%.
phone
GPS
3D
power management
wifi
bluetooth
USB
camera
etc
There's always a need for something. Like upgrading 3D to OpenGL ES 2.0, or getting support for ext3/ext4. That's a long way to go and very few people are willing to do it on their spare time.
In the most severe cases, people had to pool together a reward for someone to include support for something.
Considering how similar the Kaiser/Polaris/Vogue is, you could combine this group of people to get something done. There's a lot of talent, but it's spread far apart.
Related
I really don't know what's just happened...I think maybe my TP2 just decided to die on me.
I was using NRGZ Leo ROM from 22nd Feb. All was going well until my battery ran out today. At the time, my daughter was playing a game on it, not from WM, but from the Android port (Haret). While she was playing, I heard the familiar short vibrate of a soft reset. I know my battery was low and I suspect the battery wasn't charging, although it was plugged in (not sure if Android supports charging yet in the later builds)
Anyway, for some reason, it wouldn't go past the vibrate/Touch Pro2 screen. It just kept resetting and looping back. I attempted to do a hardware reset (power button, talk/send, end buttons) but accidently chose the wrong combo (power button, volume down) and entered bootloader. No problem yet, just reset and try again, right? Only I didn't get the chance, as it reset itself and looped through bootloader.
Now I am stuck in this loop. I can't flash from SD as it wont stay on long enough before self-resetting to find the RHODIMG.nbh on the card. I can't connect to my PC as it wont stay in bootloader long enough before self-resetting for my PC to install the "Windows Mobile Device" drivers, and even if it did, when it self-resets, it would disconnect anyway. I can't connect to MTTY for the same reason. I can't connect to ActiveSync or WMDC as I can't boot to WM to get ActiveSync running on the device.
When plugged in to AC power or through USB, it fires itself up automatically and into this loop, and it wont turn off manually, reset or accept any other button combos to enter RUU (from SD method) or to do hard reset. When it is not plugged in to any power source it won't even switch on.
I suspect it is resetting as it is not charging. I'm guessing that when in bootloader, charging is disabled, and I think this because I was originally getting 3 seconds of bootloader, now I am getting around 8 seconds, but it doesn't get any better than that, and I don't know of a rom upgrade method that can be done in 8 seconds! There are a few seconds of charging time before bootloader kicks in and the orange LED goes out and presumably stops charging. Am I right in thinking there is no charging in bootloader and in the Android port (I am using the latest version from 27/2, rhod100).
Basically, to summarise, I am stuck in bootloader-reset-bootloader loop, I cannot connect to pc in any way, flash from SD, Hard Reset, I have very little or no battery and it won't charge because it keeps going into bootloader where there is no charging taking place and it wont turn off to charge that way either.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. I don't hold out much hope though. At the moment, it doesn't seem that I am able to interact with it at all to make it do anything different or to manipulate what it is trying to do. Hopefully someone will see something familiar and maybe have some suggestions.
Oh, and by the way, it's nothing to do with a bad flash. I've been doing this for long enough to know what I'm doing, and I wasn't even doing a rom upgrade at the time. My last rom upgrade was 2 days ago and all went well, and I have been using it without problems since, until now. I haven't flashed my Radio or SPL since HSPL was released, so I know it has nothing to do with that either.
Thanks in advance for anyone who can give any advice at all, or even just take pitty on me! Apologies for all the text. I know it looks boring and may put some people off reading, but I needed to get all the info in.
Are you able to charge when it completely turned off?
can you pull the battery out, put it back in and simply charge for an hour or so to get some juice into the battery?
Then you could maybe reflash it from the bootloader or sd card...
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Are you able to charge when it completely turned off?
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I can't get it to turn off, power button has no effect.
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can you pull the battery out, put it back in and simply charge for an hour or so to get some juice into the battery?
Then you could maybe reflash it from the bootloader or sd card...
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If I take the battery out, obviously, it cuts the power and the looping stops...until I put the battery back in, and it starts itself again. I can't stop the loop and I can't turn the power off or even stop it switching itself on.
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I can't get it to turn off, power button has no effect.
If I take the battery out, obviously, it cuts the power and the looping stops...until I put the battery back in, and it starts itself again. I can't stop the loop and I can't turn the power off or even stop it switching itself on.
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I had exactly that problem after a bad romflash. I bought a decktop cradle for the tp 2 that has 2nd. battery charger. Charged the battery and reflash, everything was ok again.
So, juice up the battery and do a hard reset or reflash..
SOMETHING LIKE THIS
I know you prob dont wanna hear it, but id say its a warranty job. Theyll just force flash it anyway so they wont notice the rom you were using.
Cheers guys. I thought it might be the rom. Not sure how though as like I said, my last rom flash was a couple of days ago and it was fine. Guess these things just happen sometimes. I'll try and get the battery charged somehow. Trouble is, I don't know another single person who has a TP2, so it looks like the cradle option I think. It did cross my mind to be honest when I was trying to think of alternative charging methods.
As for the warranty idea, if it can be avoided, I'd rather not take that route if I can help it, but thanks for the suggestion. Lets just say that will remain an option as my last resort if all else fails.
Still open to suggestions if anyone knows of any miracles....any Hogwarts graduates kicking about these forums with a few magic words to spare?
Hey man, I had the same issue when my phone wouldn't for some unknown reason charge.
1) Take our your battery
2) Plug in your DESKTOP CHARGER (not USB from PC!!) to microUSB slot
3) Put your battery back
4) Wait few moments (5 minutes)
5) and you are ready to boot, now you can even charge from USB. No idea why, but looks like booting takes more than 500mA :O
If it wont help, swap those 2 and 3 points
Hey guys! Please give this thread a better title. More related to the problem. Sounds like it could be useful in the future for hopefully very few people.
OK, I will change the thread title. I searched for quite a while but couldn't find any similar cases. But it seems it is more common than I thought since I raised the issue, so a new, more specific title might be more beneficial to other users experiencing similar problems.
For the record, I haven't solved it yet. Waiting on a standalone battery charger I bought from eBay. Didn't really want the cradle. THIS is the one I have bought. I will update on my progress when it arrives.
Thanks for your help to all who have contributed so far.
Hi I have the same problem the phone won't charge or connect via usb I think it is a faulty usb port the phone have & because of that it is causing the phone to go to bootloader.
I've had this happen before, just plug it into the mains charger (wall charger) and let it sit for a while. It will loop a couple times but once there is enough juice in the battery it will be back to normal.
Since you have RHODIMG.nbh on your sd card, maybe taking your sd card out would help it a bit.
There have been other posts with the same issue and plugging it into mains will solve the problem
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I know you prob dont wanna hear it, but id say its a warranty job. Theyll just force flash it anyway so they wont notice the rom you were using.
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Not true. just the battery is really low, once charged enough to power device after boot, everything will be back to normal.
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Not true. just the battery is really low, once charged enough to power device after boot, everything will be back to normal.
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Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.
This might sound a little stupid, but I actually know somebody that said it worked for his iPhone (waste of 3-4 mins if not). Plug in the USB charger from PC. Reboot the PC without disconnecting the phone. Wait 3-4 minutes...
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Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.
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from what i remember, it won't boot without the battery.
fone_fanatic said:
I've had this happen before, just plug it into the mains charger (wall charger) and let it sit for a while. It will loop a couple times but once there is enough juice in the battery it will be back to normal.
Since you have RHODIMG.nbh on your sd card, maybe taking your sd card out would help it a bit.
There have been other posts with the same issue and plugging it into mains will solve the problem
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I left it looping for hours....no joy I'm afraid. Just gonna have to wait for this charger to arrive I think
Toleraen said:
Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.
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from what i remember, it won't boot without the battery.
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Definitely doesn't power up plugged in without a battery. Battery needs to be present. Still waiting on this charger though. I'm hoping it's not one of those where it says the item location is Cardiff (UK) when actually it's in Hong Kong and takes 14 years to arrive
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Hi I have the same problem the phone won't charge or connect via usb I think it is a faulty usb port the phone have & because of that it is causing the phone to go to bootloader.
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I really don't think it's the mini usb port as it charges and tries to connect to pc before bootloader kicks in & it all stops.
Hi I found a way 2 get past the bootloader loop just plug your headphones went in bootloader and restarted the phone but it still won't charge or sync with computer.
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Hi I found a way 2 get past the bootloader loop just plug your headphones went in bootloader and restarted the phone but it still won't charge or sync with computer.
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Well when I unplug the ac adapter, mine doesn't last on bootloader for more than a couple of seconds before dying. Doesn't even get to the RHODIMG.nbh update screen that way - not enough charge (I'm still hoping). Tried charging overnight while looping but still wouldn't charge enough. The trouble is that obviously the bootloader is killing the battery as it's not charging very much.
Got my charger finally....but they sent the wrong one. Waiting on a response from the seller. The "dock" on the charger wasn't big enough, so while the connectors were in the right place to charge the battery, the battery didn't sit flush, so they wouldn't reach the points on the battery itself. Hope they have a TP2 one & it's not just them thinking it's compatible, as it's the only one on the whole of ebay UK that has them in stock in the UK. Don't want to have to wait up to 2 weeks for one from HK.
I will keep you posted anyway.
Hi I brought mine 2 get fix because my warrenty got void due 2 water damage. I think it is the usb port that is causing this, saw in other forums the same thing. Will get back the phone on monday & I will update u on the situation.
Is there a way to change the kernel or a script or whatever to get the phone to boot automatically as soon as a power source is connected?
I'm going to use a phone as a media device (will be in a closed box so nobody can fiddle with it, with continues power connected), but it will be stupid for me to go to the site to turn it on if the main power has failed and the battery has run empty. I would like the phone to turn on automatically as soon as the main power is restored!
Any help will be appreciated!
default behaviour already.
not on my hero? or is it only when the battery goes totally flat?
well firstly with these types of batteries you don't want to make a common thing about running them down to 0% its not good for the life of the battery.
and secondly I agree, afaik my phone does not auto boot when power is in place maybe that poster got confused between booting (from power off) and the screen turning on from sleep.
As the phone is turned off I don't think it will be possible to create something to make it auto turn on.
Thanks for the replies!
The device will be connected to a power source continuously and will probably never go flat. I just need a way to power it up in case something happens and the device go flat!
heroandroid said:
Thanks for the replies!
The device will be connected to a power source continuously and will probably never go flat. I just need a way to power it up in case something happens and the device go flat!
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I honestly don't think this is possible, since the SPL is the only thing with control of the phone at this point. If the SPL does it, then you're fine. Otherwise you can't
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Thanks for all the replies guys! I guess i'm screwed then!
Just another observation! When the phone is plugged in to a power source, and the battery is removed and then replaced, the phone starts by itself! Any ideas why?
No, no screwed...
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I guess i'm screwed then!
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You are, maybe, if you only think along software lines for a solution. There was a world of invention before software.... but you probably won't remember.
How about considering a mechanical switch operated only when the power is first connected. Something along the lines of a cam that bears against the on switch. The cam could be profiled to give a continuous press for a few seconds as it turns. After one full revolution the cam switches its driving motor off until power is removed and restored again. One-off wipes of windscreen wipers come to mind as an example.
Or,if you like electronics, how about a 555 timer IC (do they still exist?) and look up an electronic one shot circuit in a cookbook. You could parallel wire to the phone switch or you could use an electo-mechanical actuator.
Not bad!
Not a bad idea, but this would be my last resort, as I plan on at least 500 units, it will take to long to modify them all. And I do like electronics, I'm actually an electronic engineer, but switched to pure programming a couple of months back! And yes you do still get 555 timers.
This isn't even possible that easy because the phone won't turn on if the battery is below ~2 %..
Big time beckons...
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Not a bad idea, but this would be my last resort, as I plan on at least 500 units
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Well if that's for real I would approach HTC; give them your problem and ask for a special to be manufactured.
Then when you're in the Dragons Den just tell them Croques sent you.
Have you looked at all the 7" slates from china retailing at £65 and up - they are WiFi but you could dongle them if needed. Or do you specifically need the phone application? They have terrible battery life - 2hrs reported - so mains is the only way for them.
Yer... but no... bt yer
maxisma said:
This isn't even possible that easy because the phone won't turn on if the battery is below ~2 %..
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I'm not sure as I follow this; but since its SNAFU here most of the time it's not unusual.
In operation, with the phone permanently connected to mains, the battery will remain at full charge. If the power is removed the battery will discharge until critical - and then switch itself off. The battery will thus be protected from going less than 2% won't it?
I need to be connected to the GSM network! The media must be transfered to the device over the network! Wifi is not an option! Do you really think they'll make it custom if I take 500? I think 500 is pocket change for them!!!
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I'm not sure as I follow this; but since its SNAFU here most of the time it's not unusual.
In operation, with the phone permanently connected to mains, the battery will remain at full charge. If the power is removed the battery will discharge until critical - and then switch itself off. The battery will thus be protected from going less than 2% won't it?
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I'll let you know soon enough! I'm draining my battery as we speak!!
I mean my phone's battery, not mine!!
heroandroid said:
Do you really think they'll make it custom if I take 500? I think 500 is pocket change for them!!!
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I have no idea; nor do you; so ask! Your 500 units could be the start of something big... I have no idea what you are up to... but more importantly neither would HTC - you could say 500 units were for market trials with a potential large order to follow if the trial is successful.
Nothing ventured nothing gained; remember the 'glass is half-empty' only if you let it be!
(I'm on to life coaching now and people pay money for this!)
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I'll let you know soon enough! I'm draining my battery as we speak!!
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Battery drained. It does start when power button is pressed after reapplying power! I assume if it is left drained for a while it will need some time to recover before it will boot. But it's easy enough to put a longer delay on the "button pusher"!
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well firstly with these types of batteries you don't want to make a common thing about running them down to 0% its not good for the life of the battery.
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That's unfortunate considering these phones without a charge during the day quite often be drained completely while I'm out of the house.
Saying that though on FroydVillain + Cyanogen6.0 (Froyo), I've noticed my battery life is substantially better, and has been for days now. I'm not sure how thats even possible, but I've got home three days in a row after about 12 hours off charge and the batter is still showing >50% charge.
and what about an "hacked" SPL to boot when connected to power?
Last night my phone died after 2 days off cable due to me having to use my cord for another device. I plugged it in today to find that it wasn't charging at all. I decided to give it a few minutes before trying, thinking it may not be turning on because it still needs some juice. I waited 30 minutes and it wouldn't turn on still, just gave me the little animation of a battery draining to indicate that it needs to be charged. After this, I figured that it's possible the cable is just dead, so I opted to borrow a cable from my brother. The cable charges his phone just fine, but it doesn't work with charging my phone. I took a shower while waiting for it to perhaps get the juice it needed, and still no dice. I tried several different outlets thinking perhaps the outlet was dead, and still nothing.
I've had the phone for a little over a month, so I'm not sure how long I have to turn it in or not; I'd hope it'd be 3 months for factory issues, but judging from how people mention 14 days, I'd assume that they're eager to push responsibility of broken devices onto the customer as fast as they can. Do you guys have any idea of what could be wrong? Perhaps if it's possible for me to get a replacement at this point?
I've been running the Lifeless v.11 Rom for a while with no issues, I haven't flashed anything in possibly a week or two, so I honestly doubt this is a software issue. It's never been exposed to water, but then again I really don't trust phones to detect if they've been damaged or not since it seems even a humid day is enough for those small water damage detection stickers to run pink.
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Last night my phone died after 2 days off cable due to me having to use my cord for another device. I plugged it in today to find that it wasn't charging at all. I decided to give it a few minutes before trying, thinking it may not be turning on because it still needs some juice. I waited 30 minutes and it wouldn't turn on still, just gave me the little animation of a battery draining to indicate that it needs to be charged. After this, I figured that it's possible the cable is just dead, so I opted to borrow a cable from my brother. The cable charges his phone just fine, but it doesn't work with charging my phone. I took a shower while waiting for it to perhaps get the juice it needed, and still no dice. I tried several different outlets thinking perhaps the outlet was dead, and still nothing.
I've had the phone for a little over a month, so I'm not sure how long I have to turn it in or not; I'd hope it'd be 3 months for factory issues, but judging from how people mention 14 days, I'd assume that they're eager to push responsibility of broken devices onto the customer as fast as they can. Do you guys have any idea of what could be wrong? Perhaps if it's possible for me to get a replacement at this point?
I've been running the Lifeless v.11 Rom for a while with no issues, I haven't flashed anything in possibly a week or two, so I honestly doubt this is a software issue. It's never been exposed to water, but then again I really don't trust phones to detect if they've been damaged or not since it seems even a humid day is enough for those small water damage detection stickers to run pink.
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wish i could help you man:/ only thing i can think of is taking of the back plating and make sure the connector is fine.it would suck if we have another evo 4g on our hands, especially without a removable battery
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Last night my phone died after 2 days off cable due to me having to use my cord for another device. I plugged it in today to find that it wasn't charging at all. I decided to give it a few minutes before trying, thinking it may not be turning on because it still needs some juice. I waited 30 minutes and it wouldn't turn on still, just gave me the little animation of a battery draining to indicate that it needs to be charged. After this, I figured that it's possible the cable is just dead, so I opted to borrow a cable from my brother. The cable charges his phone just fine, but it doesn't work with charging my phone. I took a shower while waiting for it to perhaps get the juice it needed, and still no dice. I tried several different outlets thinking perhaps the outlet was dead, and still nothing.
I've had the phone for a little over a month, so I'm not sure how long I have to turn it in or not; I'd hope it'd be 3 months for factory issues, but judging from how people mention 14 days, I'd assume that they're eager to push responsibility of broken devices onto the customer as fast as they can. Do you guys have any idea of what could be wrong? Perhaps if it's possible for me to get a replacement at this point?
I've been running the Lifeless v.11 Rom for a while with no issues, I haven't flashed anything in possibly a week or two, so I honestly doubt this is a software issue. It's never been exposed to water, but then again I really don't trust phones to detect if they've been damaged or not since it seems even a humid day is enough for those small water damage detection stickers to run pink.
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Pull your battery, try again
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Yea, going to update this. Sprint was giving me issues and trying to cough up money from me, so I pulled the battery and cleaned the port with a q-tip and it charged fine again. I was in for a scare there, but it's back to life.
Same problem...didn't have to pull battery
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Yea, going to update this. Sprint was giving me issues and trying to cough up money from me, so I pulled the battery and cleaned the port with a q-tip and it charged fine again. I was in for a scare there, but it's back to life.
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Just wanted to chime in with my experience.
I had same issue. Battery completely drained with a visit to the relatives (low cell signal).
Got home and plugged it in for 5min, the "battery charging" animation came on when short pressing the power button.
Had to move the phone to a different charger for the night and noticed that I couldn't get it to even show the charging animation while on the charger. Indeed after 8 hours on the charger the next morning it still wouldn't turn on. I thought I would have to take it back to Best Buy. On a whim, I thought I would drain all of the capacitance from the system by pressing and holding the power button to see if that would allow it to restart the charge cycle. So I held the power button for about 30-45sec off the charger, then waited about 30min and plugged it in at work.
It worked. Not sure why, but I didn't have to return it to Best Buy, so I'm happy.
Been coming here a while.. forums are nothing new to meh.. we'll skip the fact I just made this account and immediately made a thread ^^;
We'll get right to the details:
Had her since Autumn last year. Best phone I've ever used. No problems besides freezes I know I caused, etc.. never an issue. Til about October this year. Seen similar issues, looked for two months and found nothing close besides a Nexus 7 that physically needed its battery pulled for it to power on again. Anywho, here's how the moment went down: In the span of an hour or so, my GNex had crashed on me about three times... normally it'll do that maybe three times a day to three a week, depending how hotplugx on leankernel felt that day (having only one core on 90% of the time was pretty sweet). Was running the PA 3.99 based "Built With Love" ROM- the first build to incorporate any Saber stuff afaik- and the flat out 8.0 version of leankernel. Now.. the laast time she froze, the battery was already near dead, so when I popped it back in I plugged it up to the charger. All going as normal, right? Done this plenty from tinkering with kernels and seeing which android ROMs & versions I could hop back and forth to without wiping (had the current said setup for a month straight, surprisingly) Nope. It brings up the charging logo with the lighting bolt in the middle of the battery... and freezes there. Pulled out the cord, waited a bit and everything. Nada. Freaked out, I popped the battery. Went to put the battery back in and power it.. nothing. Okay, maybe that just killed the charge. Nope. Power cord fails to bring up any kind of light or charging animation. No screen activity. Will not boot into odin, recovery, or anything.
The ONLY signs of life still coming from this phone, are heat when it's on the charger, heat after 'USB jumping' the phone -after disconnecting the cord as well, and for at least two hours it continues producing heat- (had to do that when I first got it from Google) , and if I plug her into the laptop via USB WITHOUT a battery, it'll show as "OMAP 4440" for a split second in device manager.
Any more details will come from answering questions. As this happened over two months ago, I'm a little fuzzy on outright recalling details.
Cannot find this problem elsewhere at all. Either it's rare or I suck at looking around.
So I'm coming to you guys. Is she bricked? Stuck in charging.. idk what. Toolkits won't detect a device either, even after the USB jump when I know the battery is discharging and the phone is -technically- powered on.
If you guys could help me out for Christmas, even if it's to tell me she's busted, it would be so indescribably appreciated... <3
[Edit] Nabbed this really quick (attachment). Holding the button combo for download/odin mode has Windows searching this.
No battery inserted, as the dialog disappears and the taskbar pops with a bubble saying "device not recognized" etc. when the battery is put back in or is simply in it when plugged into the laptop.
Also to note: a third party battery yields the same results as the stock one. What kills me is Windows can see it, but aside from that and the heat production, it's essentially dead. What gives? :c
Shameful bump. Need to know if it's completely bricked, or possibly a hardware issue that's repairable or not.
Had to save up for over a year for this phone. Really need to figure out if it's gone or not. If it is, then I'll need to start saving for an N5, which I consider a downgrade ._. Can't beat the community support though, and that extra screen space :3
Aside from irrelevant blabble.. any answer would be appreciated. I can provide any additional information if need be, as well.
Have not seen this issue anywhere.
Bump..? :c
There's almost nothing on charge animation freezes. And what there is, the owner was able to boot their device with some simple workarounds.
If there's anyone who knows what's going on, even to tell me I'm a retard who bricked his phone, please do. Please.
Can't even afford glue to put my shoes back together. Saving up for another phone is impractical this year and probably next as well :\
Would I need the OMAP 4440 driver and some other stuff? If there's some way to push a boot.img to /boot while the phone is in this state, that would fix it..
I'm somewhat sure, at least. Since the kernel's in charge of that from what I understand.. any ideas?
Search for OMAP flash. I think your phone can be revived. i can't search right now but i believe there are some tutorial about OMAP flash of galaxy nexus. Good luck
My phone won't boot unless it is plugged in via wall charger.
If I got it to boot while charging, it instantly turns off when I unplug it even with battery at 100%.
I am able turn to go into hboot mode(power + volume down), even when it is unplugged. But it dies if I access recovery. I am able to perform "show image crc" function.
The problem started while I was using the camera and it just turned off by itself.
I was on SROM at the time when the problem started.
I managed to change ROM to SD, and even used lollipop RUU(verizon), but the problem wasn't resolved.:crying:
What do you think? Am I right to assume this is a hardware problem?
yakultski said:
My phone won't boot unless it is plugged in via wall charger.
If I got it to boot while charging, it instantly turns off when I unplug it even with battery at 100%.
I am able turn to go into hboot mode(power + volume down), even when it is unplugged. But it dies if I access recovery. I am able to perform "show image crc" function.
The problem started while I was using the camera and it just turned off by itself.
I was on SROM at the time when the problem started.
I managed to change ROM to SD, and even used lollipop RUU(verizon), but the problem wasn't resolved.:crying:
What do you think? Am I right to assume this is a hardware problem?
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I have same problem!
Bump. I have the same problem too. Seems to have come out of the blue for an otherwise functional phone. Can't figure it out.
I'll add that I can get into twrp and it seems to function without the charger plugged.. But otherwise, if the charger is removed, phone dies like OP.
Anyone can help?
Hey, this happened to me too while I was using the camera too! What's the linkage?
@yakultski, have you figured this out yet?
Try to flash a RUU and if you got the same it should be an hardware problem...
yakultski said:
My phone won't boot unless it is plugged in via wall charger.
If I got it to boot while charging, it instantly turns off when I unplug it even with battery at 100%.
I am able turn to go into hboot mode(power + volume down), even when it is unplugged. But it dies if I access recovery. I am able to perform "show image crc" function.
The problem started while I was using the camera and it just turned off by itself.
I was on SROM at the time when the problem started.
I managed to change ROM to SD, and even used lollipop RUU(verizon), but the problem wasn't resolved.:crying:
What do you think? Am I right to assume this is a hardware problem?
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Did you resolve the issue. I heard it could be the battery failing, but i'm not so sure anymore, because when i run antutu benchmark my phone shuts down when using fisheye image processing or 3D, it turns off even when it's plugged in.
I suspect it's the GPU failing or something similar. That is weird since i wasn't using any intense 3D games. I'm sure this is my last HTC.
yakultski said:
My phone won't boot unless it is plugged in via wall charger.
If I got it to boot while charging, it instantly turns off when I unplug it even with battery at 100%.
I am able turn to go into hboot mode(power + volume down), even when it is unplugged. But it dies if I access recovery. I am able to perform "show image crc" function.
The problem started while I was using the camera and it just turned off by itself.
I was on SROM at the time when the problem started.
I managed to change ROM to SD, and even used lollipop RUU(verizon), but the problem wasn't resolved.:crying:
What do you think? Am I right to assume this is a hardware problem?
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I don't know if you managed to solve your problem, but in my case I replaced the battery and now the problem is gone. So defective battery is the reason in my case. I replaced it my self which is quite a task but not so hard, you just need patience and time. So if you have time to reply me, please do, as i would like to help.:good:
Gunman84 said:
I don't know if you managed to solve your problem, but in my case I replaced the battery and now the problem is gone. So defective battery is the reason in my case. I replaced it my self which is quite a task but not so hard, you just need patience and time. So if you have time to reply me, please do, as i would like to help.:good:
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Hey Gunman84, my phone is behaving in a similar fashion as the OP. I have an AT&T phone converted to a GPE. So everything is stock in that sense. If plugged in, phone operates normally. As soon as I unplug it, a couple of seconds later it will power off. If I boot into hboot, the phone will stay on for a long time (its been an hour+ already and its still on).
I watched a youtube video showing how to replace the battery and that was pretty intimidating - haha. Where did you get your battery replacement? and how much did it cost?
thanks
clemdaddy said:
Hey Gunman84, my phone is behaving in a similar fashion as the OP. I have an AT&T phone converted to a GPE. So everything is stock in that sense. If plugged in, phone operates normally. As soon as I unplug it, a couple of seconds later it will power off. If I boot into hboot, the phone will stay on for a long time (its been an hour+ already and its still on).
I watched a youtube video showing how to replace the battery and that was pretty intimidating - haha. Where did you get your battery replacement? and how much did it cost?
thanks
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Hi, it's not so intimidating . Well you just need to be careful and patient, there are lots of small resistors, connectors and so on. Check the iFixit site for proper instructions here is the link https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+%28M8%29+Teardown/23615 this is full teardown, and here is 2nd link where they focus mainly on replacing the battery https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/HTC+One+M8+Battery+Replacement/41650. I'm from Slovenia, and the battery cost me 20€, which is around 25US dollars, the battery was original one. I bought it from local supplier. It took me around 2-3 hours to replace it, or something like that, that's because i wanted to be careful.
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Hi, it's not so intimidating . Well you just need to be careful and patient, there are lots of small resistors, connectors and so on. Check the iFixit site for proper instructions here is the link https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+%28M8%29+Teardown/23615 this is full teardown, and here is 2nd link where they focus mainly on replacing the battery https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/HTC+One+M8+Battery+Replacement/41650. I'm from Slovenia, and the battery cost me 20€, which is around 25US dollars, the battery was original one. I bought it from local supplier. It took me around 2-3 hours to replace it, or something like that, that's because i wanted to be careful.
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Thanks so much for the links.
The phones behavior really makes me question if its the battery. For example, it stayed on in the hboot/recovery screen for 10+ hours (without being plugged in). So the battery can definitely hold a charge.
I'm afraid to open up the phone (and potentially break it), when there is potentially something else going on (maybe a software issue). I guess if I run out of ideas, I'll have no choice but to attempt the battery replacement.
thanks again!
clemdaddy said:
Thanks so much for the links.
The phones behavior really makes me question if its the battery. For example, it stayed on in the hboot/recovery screen for 10+ hours (without being plugged in). So the battery can definitely hold a charge.
I'm afraid to open up the phone (and potentially break it), when there is potentially something else going on (maybe a software issue). I guess if I run out of ideas, I'll have no choice but to attempt the battery replacement.
thanks again!
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Well in my case i could also stay in recovery mode(TWRP) indefinitely also in bootloader mode, that's because you are not in the operating system. The graphics are not running at that point and so on, it doesn't drain that much power at that point either.. It's a different story if you try to flash a rom in aroma, at that point the phone shuts of if not plugged in. It is the battery, trust me.
Gunman84 said:
Well in my case i could also stay in recovery mode(TWRP) indefinitely also in bootloader mode, that's because you are not in the operating system. The graphics are not running at that point and so on, it doesn't drain that much power at that point either.. It's a different story if you try to flash a rom in aroma, at that point the phone shuts of if not plugged in. It is the battery, trust me.
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Really appreciate your responses. Makes sense what you say. I'm going to attempt the battery swap. Got no other option!
For the adhesive parts of the phone. When putting it back together, did you need to reapply more adhesive?
Thanks
clemdaddy said:
Really appreciate your responses. Makes sense what you say. I'm going to attempt the battery swap. Got no other option!
For the adhesive parts of the phone. When putting it back together, did you need to reapply more adhesive?
Thanks
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Nope, no additional adhesive was needed in my case. I used the hair dryer to soften the original adhesive. The speaker grills were difficult to remove as they are glued quite well, but eventually they came off. The toughest part was separating the back casing, as you do need quite a few prying picks or guitar picks.
Just be careful with the motherboard, slowly remove the tape that covers the connectors, you don't want to rip apart any flat cables. And don't throw away that tape, you will need it.
Ohh i have the same issue.i used phone normally before and battery worked fine.but then i flashed ICE rom and when i was using the camera this happend.is this really a battery issue?
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Kasun72 said:
Ohh i have the same issue.i used phone normally before and battery worked fine.but then i flashed ICE rom and when i was using the camera this happend.is this really a battery issue?
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Well if yours symptoms are the same as clemdaddy has, then yes. Sorry, but at least now you know what the problem is.
Got the new battery today and performed the phone surgery. All the connections looked good. Pieced it all back together and everything works BUT the new battery won't charge. The phone is running off the battery, so the connections I made must be correct. Running off the battery the phone no longer exhibits the symptoms I described above (so this most likely confirms my previous battery was the culprit). I tried the hold all buttons for 2 minutes to re-calibrate the new battery. All that did was made the phone now display a full battery (instead of the empty battery it initially showed).
On the weekend I'll open it up again and see if I missed something.
Got the replacement battery. Re-opened up the phone. This time I over heated the upper and lower panels which caused them both to warp a bit, and one of them to have its paint bubble :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:
I replaced the new defective battery with the most recent one. Put the phone back together and it is back to normal again! Also probably because of the over heating, there is now a little bit of a rainbow effect on the lower part of the LCD screen!
A real pity the first battery was defective, causing me to have to re-open it and carelessly overheat it. Otherwise the 1st attempt would have been a flawless repair!
With the warped panels, the bubbling paint and now the rainbow effect on the screen, I wonder how long I'll keep the phone. These little things are definitely bugging me... If I get rid of it, I'll really miss my google edition htc one m8! Nothing like a nexus like experience with a remove-able microSD card. Such a thing no longer exists