Guys,
I read this forum every single day and learned a great deal. I've got a good idea about rooting, flashing etc, but have couple of Yes/No questions, so please bear with me.
I have a T-Mobile NL desire, branded and locked, and my questions are:
1. Can I make 4 GB stock SD card currently I use a Goldcard? It came preinstalled with the phone and I haven't even taken it out. Would I lose any data?
2. Can Goldcard and APP2SD card be the same? I know APP2SD require partitioning. Does it also require formatting? If I understand correctly Goldcard only changes some "internal sectors" of the SD card, so I thought that might be possible?
3. I see a lot of recovery methods on the development forum (Clockwork, AM recovery, Fake-flash, unrevoked etc). Some require USB connection some dont. Which one at the moment do you think is the best to root your device and install APP2SD?
4. As I understand Nandroid does a full ROM backup while Titanium backs up your apps and settings. Can I backup my current T-Mobile ROM with Nandroid before rooting, and restore it later if needed?
Many thanks in advance, this is a great community to learn and share!
manisa236 said:
Guys,
I read this forum every single day and learned a great deal. I've got a good idea about rooting, flashing etc, but have couple of Yes/No questions, so please bear with me.
I have a T-Mobile NL desire, branded and locked, and my questions are:
1. Can I make 4 GB stock SD card currently I use a Goldcard? It came preinstalled with the phone and I haven't even taken it out. Would I lose any data?
2. Can Goldcard and APP2SD card be the same? I know APP2SD require partitioning. Does it also require formatting? If I understand correctly Goldcard only changes some "internal sectors" of the SD card, so I thought that might be possible?
3. I see a lot of recovery methods on the development forum (Clockwork, AM recovery, Fake-flash, unrevoked etc). Some require USB connection some dont. Which one at the moment do you think is the best to root your device and install APP2SD?
4. As I understand Nandroid does a full ROM backup while Titanium backs up your apps and settings. Can I backup my current T-Mobile ROM with Nandroid before rooting, and restore it later if needed?
Many thanks in advance, this is a great community to learn and share!
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1. The stock card will be fine, and I think you will lose everything on it. Never needed on my self so I'm not 100% on that. Just copy everything from SD to your PC.
2. Not sure about the gold card bits, but If you partition your SD card it will delete all data on it.
3. Use fake flash or unrevoked after you have completed step 1. The old usb method leaves you at risk of semi bricking the phone.
4. You only have access to the nandroid option after the rooting process. So you can't backup your current rom.
A2SD will format your card, so I recommend having two cards - original 4 gig card which will be used as goldcard, and other (preferably bigger) card which you will use everyday.
After you wipe everything and flash new rom with gold card inside (according to instructions), you will have to turn off your phone, change gold card with another one, enter hboot, recovery and partition new card before rebooting.
There are two reasons why I would recommend recovery with pushfiles_windows.zip (which you can find here: http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire/ ) instead of fake flash:
- fake flash desn't have power off/turn off option which pushfiles has, I had to turn phone off with power button, and I wasn't sure if I turned it off or put it to sleep before pulling battery out... too much stress
- when I exchanged gold card with new one, I wasn't sure will I be able to enter recovery with fake flash on it, so I used old school pushfiles with USB
Beware that free and full Titanium Backup are two different things: full is a great backup tool that will restore everything like it was after first reboot, and I wouldn't recommend free version to anyone
Hello everyone.
I've got a really big problem with my HTC Desire.
I installed the following radio: 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14 and ever since my device has gone to shi*...
As I've mentioned above, 3 big issues/problems have now arised:
- My device no longer recognizes the SD card. Neither in the operation system nor in recovery. I've tried both my SD cards, both of which used to work fine with my phone, and currently DO work fine with my PC.
- USB link does not work anymore. neither in OS nor recovry. I have no communication between my device and PC.
- I have no signal, aside from the occasional emergency calls signal. The device does not connect the phone company.
I will mention though, that whenever I perform a factory reset, and the phone loads the OS, for about 5-10 seconds I have a signal and the phone is connected to the phone company. If I do nothing, I lose the signal and never get it again.
If I make it to place a call however, I will keep having signal until that call has ended.
So as you can see I'm in a very difficult situation here...
* I cannot install other roms as my phone does not have access to the SD card.
* I cannot write commands to the device via adb shell as I have no USB communicaion between my device and my PC (and I have tried my wife's laptop as well)
* I cannot use my phone's basic features! (making calls, messaging, etc).
If it helps, a bit of phone background:
I'm rather new to the whole Android world. especially when it comes to messing about with advanced features.
What I have done with my phone is:
- Rooted it. I can't remember which method I used, but it included something called "unrevoked3" if I'm not mistaken. I could probably find out the details if neccessary.
- Installed clockworkmod recovery.
- Tried numerous times unsuccessfully to install different versions of apps2sd.
- Successfully installed Cyanogen 6.0.2 mod.
- Installed the radio mentioned above which fuc*ed up my phone.
I need the help of the experts in here urgently as I have not been able to use my phone in 2 days..!
Thanks in advance!
Liran
Can anyone help?
Since you claim that all of this started when you flashed the radio:
1. First try to wipe the Dalvik cache (boot into recovery, choose "advanced" then "clear Dalvik cache" in ClockworkMod). It might not help.. but if it does, it is by far the easiest solution.
2. If that doesn't work, do a factory reset. I know it sucks having to reinstall the apps, but it usually helps with weird problems like these.
3. If that doesn't work, flash a new radio (I suggest using a different version from the file you used, just to be certain). Remember to do a factory reset and clear the cache after you've flashed the radio.
4. If it doesn't work after that, please flash another ROM (again, to make sure that there were no errors in the ROM file you flashed) and .. you guessed it.. factory reset and cache wipe again.
And when all of that doesn't work.. panick and post here again.
Good luck.
Thanks for the reply
martijn_bakker said:
Since you claim that all of this started when you flashed the radio:
1. First try to wipe the Dalvik cache (boot into recovery, choose "advanced" then "clear Dalvik cache" in ClockworkMod). It might not help.. but if it does, it is by far the easiest solution.
2. If that doesn't work, do a factory reset. I know it sucks having to reinstall the apps, but it usually helps with weird problems like these.
3. If that doesn't work, flash a new radio (I suggest using a different version from the file you used, just to be certain). Remember to do a factory reset and clear the cache after you've flashed the radio.
4. If it doesn't work after that, please flash another ROM (again, to make sure that there were no errors in the ROM file you flashed) and .. you guessed it.. factory reset and cache wipe again.
And when all of that doesn't work.. panick and post here again.
Good luck.
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1. Tried that already.
2. Done that more than a few times already.
3. and 4. I can't do any flashing as I don't have SD card access on my phone.
Any other ideas?
So you have no SD card access from the bootloader either. I'm no expert, but there are some things you can try without running the risk of messing things up further.
If you can access the SD card from the recovery then you could put the ROM or radio images on the card from the PC and then flash them from recovery.
If the SD card doesn't work in recovery either then it might be a different problem altogether (different software, after all). Is there anything in the device or the SD card that might adversely affect contact between the SD card and the phone? Dirt in/on connectors, erosion from wear etc?
Maybe when you tried APP2SD, someone gave you A2SD instructions (which requires an ext3fs which some kernels can't read). If you can't read the SD card from recovery.. can you reformat if from there? (Please remember to back up the files on the SD card before you try this). I was unable to access my SD card after I'd repartitioned and reformatted it (maybe because I used vfat32 instead of vfa16 .. I don't know). The point is.. reformatting solved that issue for me, it might solve yours.
If you can't get these ideas to work, you could try:
- Flashing /system through fastboot
- Booting an alternate kernel or booting from the SD card through fastboot
However.. I haven't actually done either of those myself.. and I don't want to be responsible for wrecking your device. So I hope someone more knowledgeable will be able to help you out there.
Sorry
My desire stopped recognising SD cards (they worked in my PC).....had to be sent away. Still waiting for it back. My wasn't rooted though.
This mght help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691639
martijn_bakker said:
So you have no SD card access from the bootloader either. I'm no expert, but there are some things you can try without running the risk of messing things up further.
If you can access the SD card from the recovery then you could put the ROM or radio images on the card from the PC and then flash them from recovery.
If the SD card doesn't work in recovery either then it might be a different problem altogether (different software, after all). Is there anything in the device or the SD card that might adversely affect contact between the SD card and the phone? Dirt in/on connectors, erosion from wear etc?
Maybe when you tried APP2SD, someone gave you A2SD instructions (which requires an ext3fs which some kernels can't read). If you can't read the SD card from recovery.. can you reformat if from there? (Please remember to back up the files on the SD card before you try this). I was unable to access my SD card after I'd repartitioned and reformatted it (maybe because I used vfat32 instead of vfa16 .. I don't know). The point is.. reformatting solved that issue for me, it might solve yours.
If you can't get these ideas to work, you could try:
- Flashing /system through fastboot
- Booting an alternate kernel or booting from the SD card through fastboot
However.. I haven't actually done either of those myself.. and I don't want to be responsible for wrecking your device. So I hope someone more knowledgeable will be able to help you out there.
Sorry
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I cannot access the SD card from recovery.
It's also not a problem with the SD card as I've tried 2 different cards, both of which work fine on my PC.
I tried formatting both cards on my PC. 4GB to FAT and 16GB to FAT32 (I don't think it supports FAT because I did not have that option with that specific card). Neither helped.
I didn't see an option to format the SD through recovery on my phone, but any attempt to load a file from the SD on recovery ended in the following message:
E:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0 (or /dev/block/mmcblk0p1)
E:Can't mount /sdcard
How do I flash /system from fastboot? Bear in mind that I don't have USB connectivity from there, nor do I have SD card access.
I appreciate the help
themikeyboosh said:
My desire stopped recognising SD cards (they worked in my PC).....had to be sent away. Still waiting for it back. My wasn't rooted though.
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I really hope I won't get to that as I have voided my warranty by rooting my phone, plus I don't think my insurance will want to fix my self-ruined device.. :\
Thank you mate, but this thread is irrelevant to my case as far as I can see
ianmufc said:
This mght help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691639
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It says in there:
"Also, SD card functionality has to work. For this, do 'fastboot oem enableqxdm 0' in fastboot mode."
I cannot issue commands in fastboot mode. I cannot write them on my device as I have no keyboard, and I cannot send them to my device from my PC as I don't have USB connectivity on my device.
That's also the reason I can't do any of the steps on that guide.
Unless I'm missing something..?
Here are some notes if it helps anyone solve my problem:
- I can probably use Wi-Fi if it helps in any way.
- What is odd is that my phone cannot read or mount the SD cards anywhere, but it was able to put 2 files on them after they were formatted by my PC.
The files were:
qxdm_20101123_022000_1.dm and qxdm_20101123_022256_1.dm on my FAT 4GB SD card
and: qxdm_20101123_023126_1.dm and qxdm_20101123_023357_1.dm on my FAT32 16GB SD card.
- My radio is still 5.11.05.27 which means the radio update mention above (32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14) which I think screwed things up - didn't even work.
- Putting PC36IMG on a formatted SD card and starting the phone in fastboot did nothing. No sort of installation was attempted. The phone was just waiting for my input on that screen as normal (or am I missing something I was supposed to do..?)
- After formatting the SD card (on my PC), putting it in my phone and loading the OS, again I have a T-mobile signal for 10 seconds which then disappears into no signal...
- My phone's info in bootloader:
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
I had sd and isb bricked too. But I was able to use fastboot.
Have You tried it? Reboot to recevery, go to fastboot and connect usb cable.
I'll apologise in advance if I'm making the wrong assumptions here, but as you say you're rather new to this:
Fastboot is a way to control your device from the PC. When USB and SD connectivity are broken, you might be able to use it to restore the device. It will do nothing if you only activate it on your device. You'll also need the software on your PC.
You'll need the "fastboot" (and maybe "adb" programs) for your PC, from the Android SDK. Download the SDK from the Android site and follow the installation instructions from the same site (you'll just need step 2 if all you want to do is fix the desire, the rest is for developers only). On Windows, you'll also want HTC Sync (it contains some USB drivers that we need).
Once that is done, boot the Desire into fastboot mode, connect the USB cable and on the PC, open a command prompt and execute "fastboot devices". If it lists the device, then you can use fastboot to work from there. (Basically all that tickmaster describes above... only in a lot more words)
martijn_bakker said:
I'll apologise in advance if I'm making the wrong assumptions here, but as you say you're rather new to this:
Fastboot is a way to control your device from the PC. When USB and SD connectivity are broken, you might be able to use it to restore the device. It will do nothing if you only activate it on your device. You'll also need the software on your PC.
You'll need the "fastboot" (and maybe "adb" programs) for your PC, from the Android SDK. Download the SDK from the Android site and follow the installation instructions from the same site (you'll just need step 2 if all you want to do is fix the desire, the rest is for developers only). On Windows, you'll also want HTC Sync (it contains some USB drivers that we need).
Once that is done, boot the Desire into fastboot mode, connect the USB cable and on the PC, open a command prompt and execute "fastboot devices". If it lists the device, then you can use fastboot to work from there. (Basically all that tickmaster describes above... only in a lot more words)
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martijn_bakker, THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
I have no words to express my excitement and gratitude!
I've done what you suggested and you were absolutely right!
The PC HTC sync driver missing was what created the problem.
After installing it I could issue the fastboot command to enable the sd card.
And then as if by magic, all my other problems had disappeared as well!
If there's anything I can do - if you need any help with anything - just name it!
Liran
Help !
Hey Liran or anyone who understood the procedure above,
could you please inform me about the steps i should take to make it work on my desire?
I have the exact same problem but my phone has the following:
Revolutionary
Bravo PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.17.05.23
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
I would be really, REALLY greatful if someone could help me
Wish I could help mate, but this was over 2 years ago! I've moved on to Samsung Galaxy S3 since 7 months ago!
Good luck mate...
Liran
I just asked because i can't understand what martijn_bakker told you to do..
Basically i don't know which commands i should use..
Anyway, thanks for your time
Is there anyone willing to help me with adb?
I just had to buy a new Dinc because I screwed the other one up so bad and I did not have any kind of backup on my computer! I did not know how to do anything whatsoever with the advanced with my last phone, even though I rooted it and get around a little bit and change ROM's and Kernals almost daily.
So, my question is: Is there anyone willing to help me go through and do everything with the adb step-by-step?
Also will someone help me to do whatever I have to do to setup a backup on my computer so that I won't have to go through losing everything and having to buy another phone?
Thank you very much!!
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
What are you asking to do? What can't you do with adb? Your post is a bit confusing
Trying to help in your last thread (here), I have some questions:
What is your computer knowledge level here?
You can make a backup of the SD card by hooking it up to a computer, setting the phone from Charging to Disk Drive (unless you've defaulted it for Disk Drive mode when plugged into a computer), and dragging all the contents of the SD card to a folder on your computer. I suppose this could be done with internal storage too if you wanted...
In order to use ADB, you need to install Android SDK. ADB is a command you run from the command prompt. You'd use it to push, pull, and manually remove items from the system. I don't think you need ADB at this time. It doesn't do backups.
I know what you're thinking, "god this guy's being a ****". But if you're asking for help with something, especially something like using SDK, rooting phones, and flashing ROMS, there needs to be some idea of your level of experience/expertise with computers. I don't think your other phone was lost from the way it sounds. You could have spent less than $10 on a USB to SD card adapter, hooked it up to your computer, formatted the card as FAT32, downloaded a ROM, put the ROM on the SD card, put the SD card in your phone, then booted into recovery, and flashed the ROM.
Don't flash ROM's and kernels daily, stick with something for a bit until you understand what you are doing, and how things work. I don't think you can get a sense of how something is going to work if you're constantly flashing things. You need to give time so that the system can "settle". As far as the backups go, you are the backup for your SD card contents, so you have to back up everything to your PC once a week, once every two weeks, or a time that you feel is right.
Hi Guys,
I'm sort of new to all this Rooting/Flashing Process.
So any way I'll start. I tried to Root my HTC Desire HD the other day, but can't due to the fact the current stock rom that's installed doesn't seem to want to recognise the SD Card, as it think it's a Blank Card or Unsupported Filesystem. (Believe me I have no idea to get round this issue, as I've tried several Re-Formats of this SD Card, and I have tried other SD Cards, but if you put any in my phone then back into the PC, You have to reformat it so you loose your stuff) So basically any SD Card you put in My Desire HD, Screws it up. Meaning after you even try and format it on my Phone or even a PC, you loose all of your stuff straight away.
Anyway back to my question. Since I'm unable to Root my phone, Am I able to just download ROM Manager from play store, and Flash the recovery so I can Wipe my phone completely and install A new ROM? Or since my phone won't detect my SD Card, Will it brick my phone or screw it up if I do flash the recovery and wipe anything? (By the way, I've got the phone to recognise the SD Card once or twice, but after a few hours, even after using the phone perfectly to take videos, pictures Music ETC, it wants to reformat it again due to the fact the phone thinks it's an Unsupported Filesystem). I'm not sure if this SD Issue is Hardware or Software Related, But I would have my money on Both, but I'm just not Sure.
Your help would be really appreciated guys. Thanks.
You can only flash a recovery if you can write to a partition. You need to root with either HTCDEV or AAHK to write to a partition.
Hi,
Hoping to get some help on this one. I've an HTC one M8 where the SD card has become corrupt. The SD card contained images of someone who recently passed. I've not had much luck recovering the SD Card, however I was hoping that I maybe able to recover some of the thumbnails/cache from the HTC. I wan't to do this the right way and need to know what sort of files are stored and where.
Is there a way to access the phones memory without turning it on risking a write to these areas.
xposted on htc forums.
Thanks
thecorporal said:
Is there a way to access the phones memory without turning it on risking a write to these areas.
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Only if you have the bootloader unlocked, and custom recovery (TWRP) installed. If so, you can boot into TWRP, and read the data. Technically, the phone is powered on. But since it's only booted to recovery (not in Android OS), I don't think it will write to user data, unless you tell it to.
Thanks for the info