Guys,
I read this forum every single day and learned a great deal. I've got a good idea about rooting, flashing etc, but have couple of Yes/No questions, so please bear with me.
I have a T-Mobile NL desire, branded and locked, and my questions are:
1. Can I make 4 GB stock SD card currently I use a Goldcard? It came preinstalled with the phone and I haven't even taken it out. Would I lose any data?
2. Can Goldcard and APP2SD card be the same? I know APP2SD require partitioning. Does it also require formatting? If I understand correctly Goldcard only changes some "internal sectors" of the SD card, so I thought that might be possible?
3. I see a lot of recovery methods on the development forum (Clockwork, AM recovery, Fake-flash, unrevoked etc). Some require USB connection some dont. Which one at the moment do you think is the best to root your device and install APP2SD?
4. As I understand Nandroid does a full ROM backup while Titanium backs up your apps and settings. Can I backup my current T-Mobile ROM with Nandroid before rooting, and restore it later if needed?
Many thanks in advance, this is a great community to learn and share!
manisa236 said:
Guys,
I read this forum every single day and learned a great deal. I've got a good idea about rooting, flashing etc, but have couple of Yes/No questions, so please bear with me.
I have a T-Mobile NL desire, branded and locked, and my questions are:
1. Can I make 4 GB stock SD card currently I use a Goldcard? It came preinstalled with the phone and I haven't even taken it out. Would I lose any data?
2. Can Goldcard and APP2SD card be the same? I know APP2SD require partitioning. Does it also require formatting? If I understand correctly Goldcard only changes some "internal sectors" of the SD card, so I thought that might be possible?
3. I see a lot of recovery methods on the development forum (Clockwork, AM recovery, Fake-flash, unrevoked etc). Some require USB connection some dont. Which one at the moment do you think is the best to root your device and install APP2SD?
4. As I understand Nandroid does a full ROM backup while Titanium backs up your apps and settings. Can I backup my current T-Mobile ROM with Nandroid before rooting, and restore it later if needed?
Many thanks in advance, this is a great community to learn and share!
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1. The stock card will be fine, and I think you will lose everything on it. Never needed on my self so I'm not 100% on that. Just copy everything from SD to your PC.
2. Not sure about the gold card bits, but If you partition your SD card it will delete all data on it.
3. Use fake flash or unrevoked after you have completed step 1. The old usb method leaves you at risk of semi bricking the phone.
4. You only have access to the nandroid option after the rooting process. So you can't backup your current rom.
A2SD will format your card, so I recommend having two cards - original 4 gig card which will be used as goldcard, and other (preferably bigger) card which you will use everyday.
After you wipe everything and flash new rom with gold card inside (according to instructions), you will have to turn off your phone, change gold card with another one, enter hboot, recovery and partition new card before rebooting.
There are two reasons why I would recommend recovery with pushfiles_windows.zip (which you can find here: http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire/ ) instead of fake flash:
- fake flash desn't have power off/turn off option which pushfiles has, I had to turn phone off with power button, and I wasn't sure if I turned it off or put it to sleep before pulling battery out... too much stress
- when I exchanged gold card with new one, I wasn't sure will I be able to enter recovery with fake flash on it, so I used old school pushfiles with USB
Beware that free and full Titanium Backup are two different things: full is a great backup tool that will restore everything like it was after first reboot, and I wouldn't recommend free version to anyone
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hi all,
as i was testing my new desire using the 4gb card it came with, i did all the rooting with that card in, am now running on defrost 3.1 and all my mods are done.
I tried to partition my other 8gb card using the rom manager on another phone as my phone wont run without the sd card in, then once that was done, i cloned the cards ie copied the data on my mac, then copied it off to the new card.
started the phone with the new card but most features of defrost are not available and alot of the apps are missing.
now when you go to the application manager, it shows you where stuff is installed but it says they are on the phone, presume this is cos a2sd is more of a tricking the phone than a physical change of location for the installed apps
anyway, so my question is, can you change the sd card without re installing the rom?
thank you in advance
anyone????
jason4656 said:
anyone????
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sorry mate didnt see this till now. in short no.
your phone should work without an sd in it, format the 8gb card use rom manager to partition or use AmonRa fake flash to partition (i prefer this way) and start over again. i know its a pain but its the safest way to do it.
i personally wiped everything on sd and phone so there was no partition and nothing on the phone, then i flashed my rom (dont do any mods yet) then either using amonra or rom manager, partition the phone may take a while to boot up but just LEAVE IT. then do everything again ie mods and apps. long i know but like i said its the safest way also you cant **** anything up.
hope this helps
I'm running SlideMeRoot and have been happy with it. But, I want more card storage. So I know it's not as easy as just putting in the new card and rebooting -- yes, I tried that. Don't laugh ;-}
So do I need to do a NANDROID backup to the PC and then put the backup on the new card?
Do I need to restore the stock ROM, then re-root with the new card?
Any help would be appreciated. I can follow instructions -- I rooted my Slide using the original looping method <g>
I have the feeling it's something real obvious that I'm just not getting.
Thanks
Pull everythig off the old card. Format the new card (just in case) with your phone or your computer (I'd choose this one). You should format it to FAT32, don't worry about any of the other settings. Load your old card onto your new one and put it in your phone. That's all. Really you shouldn't need to do any of that aside from transfering the contents.
I'm not sure if anything else is involved if you have a2sd since you have to make an ext partition so if that's the case some one else can answer that.
Hi All
Firstly, huge apologies if this has been answered already. I have searched a ton of threads and none really explain exactly what I need to know...
Secondly, I am in no way aware of how any coding or development works on the desire or any android device for that matter so my knowledge is only from what I have personally done to my device:
S-ON (dont have the balls to attempt this!)
Currently I am running RCMixHD ver 0.14. This ROM includes a script which (so I understand) activates the data2ext, and creates this within my ext partition. Now I have read a few threads and posts about possible corruption with this, and so I have a question?
Can I simply copy the entire contents of the SD card to my PC, and then in the event of the SD card becoming corrupt, copy it to a different SD card, pop it back in the phone and then carry on?
Also I am considering a bigger SD card than the 4gb one I have, could this method also be used to transfer everything onto the new SD card without wiping and losing every app and photo etc.
Apologies for the semi-noob post, but I want to be clear before I do any potential damage to my phone!
Thanks
Yes and Yes but i dont know if u need S-Off for data2sdext.
But switching to S-Off is not a real problem or really dangerous! Done this on many phones!
lick_the_fish said:
Hi All
Firstly, huge apologies if this has been answered already. I have searched a ton of threads and none really explain exactly what I need to know...
Secondly, I am in no way aware of how any coding or development works on the desire or any android device for that matter so my knowledge is only from what I have personally done to my device:
S-ON (dont have the balls to attempt this!)
Currently I am running RCMixHD ver 0.14. This ROM includes a script which (so I understand) activates the data2ext, and creates this within my ext partition. Now I have read a few threads and posts about possible corruption with this, and so I have a question?
Can I simply copy the entire contents of the SD card to my PC, and then in the event of the SD card becoming corrupt, copy it to a different SD card, pop it back in the phone and then carry on?
Also I am considering a bigger SD card than the 4gb one I have, could this method also be used to transfer everything onto the new SD card without wiping and losing every app and photo etc.
Apologies for the semi-noob post, but I want to be clear before I do any potential damage to my phone!
Thanks
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Once you have all your apps, clockworkmod recovery should backup all your ext partition. If you want an extra backup, boot in recovery and mount sdcard + ext, then do a tar of you ext partition and save it to you sdcard (something like cd /sd-ext tar czvf /sdcard/ext.tgz *)
Your ext partition will then be saved.
I have seen dozens of posters on different forums having this problem, and I think a common thread may be beneficial. If the mods disagree, or if you feel this is an inappropriate place for this thread, please let me know where I should move it to, because I really would like to help others learn from what I've discovered.
I have an HTC desire, and I recently started experimenting with rooting my phone, and installing custom ROMs. I quickly realized I wanted to use A2SD but my 8gig microSD card was only class 2, so I decided to upgrade before taking this step.
I was using AuraxTSense and I bought a 16gig patriot class 10 microSD card. Unfortunately, when I put the new card in, my phone would refuse to mount it. I knew the card was good as I could use it and format it in my card reader.
I would get the message it is now safe to remove SD card, and "Disk Drive" wouldn't show up as an option when I connected the phone to my computer.
I thought the problem was AuraxTSense, so I flashed LeeDroid on there. Same problem.
I reverted the phone to my provider's (Telus) RUU, and that seemed to allow my card to be recognized. This confirmed that the fix would be in the software.
I scoured dozens of forum threads, and tried everything people have suggested, using fastboot, using adb, nothing worked.
Finally one thing did, and I would like to share it.
1) I reverted my phone to the provider's RUU
2) I re-rooted my phone using unRevoked to flash clockwork
3) I used unRevoked AGAIN to flash AmonRa onto the phone
4) I booted into AmonRa recovery and made an ext2 partition on my SD card
5) I upgraded the ext2 partition to ext3 (not sure if this is important, but i did it)
6) I flashed LeeDroid ROM.
All problems solved. Custom ROM, shiny SD card, and A2SD.
I hope this can reach and help some other people that I see having this problem.
I've got a new sd card that is formatted and ready to use and have never changed cards since i rooted my phone. I know how to swap info from one card to the other, but my old card has alot of useless crap on it. I'd prefer to just start over and i'm not sure what are the basic files I must have? I'm on 0003 and rooted with unrevoked and have been using amon ra for bu. PC36IMG file and anything else perhaps?
thetunicakid said:
I've got a new sd card that is formatted and ready to use and have never changed cards since i rooted my phone. I know how to swap info from one card to the other, but my old card has alot of useless crap on it. I'd prefer to just start over and i'm not sure what are the basic files I must have? I'm on 0003 and rooted with unrevoked and have been using amon ra for bu. PC36IMG file and anything else perhaps?
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There's ISN'T any basic files that are mandatory to have on your SD card! Is not like your phone is going to unroot itself because you switched SD cards.........I do this all the time when I want to try out a new rom! You should be good since your SD card is new dude!
The PC36IMG file is only if you want to flash another splash screen or a different radio, etc. I'm not going to tell you to get rid of that file all together but you don't have to carry it over to the new SD card!
What about amon ra and recovery? Sorry i'm kind of new to this. At present time i'm using amon ra as my backup. When i go into recovery it asks about update etc. and reads my 36img file. I've changed this once or twice with various roms and add ons and such, but don't i have to have this in order to get past startup to get into recovery?
As far as I know, it'll always ask you to update at the bootloader if you have the PC36img file but just hit the down volume button for no and head over to recovery to do what it is that you need to do!
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Yes, as long as you have a pc36img.zip on the root of your SD card and boot into bootloader it will ask if you want to update....i usually rename the file a bit so it wont ask or you can make a subfolder and put it in there till you need it....or, as mentioned above, just hit volume down to say no...
.........at 8 am today someone poisons the coffee....do not drink the coffee. More instructions will follow.
Cordially,
Future Dwight
If you've made and backups you'll want to make sure to keep those. Also of you make Titanium Backup backups you'll want to keep those too. Make sure none of your apps are copied to the SD card as well or they won't function properly. That's all I can think of right now.