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HTC TyTN WM6 Upgrade ... Need Help!

Dear all,
I contacted HTC for my device upgrading and ROM updates, and they direct me to this forum.
I have a TyTN unlocked device, and want to upgrade to WM6. I explored all what you posted here but couldn't decide which version and link is suitable for me. Any way, here down my device information, and I'm appreciating any help to upgrade my device to WM6.
Device Information:
Device Name: HTC TyTN (Unlocked)
Language: English
Processor: SC32442A - 400MHz
Memory: 49.05 MB
System: Windows Mobile 5.0 OS 5.1.195 (Build 14955.2.3.0)
That are all information I could get from my device
Need Help my friends.
After all, I beleive that HTC should have an upgrade area to support their devices.
Thank you in advance.

Hi there!
its good to know that HTC assistants sent you here on this forum !!
I can suggest you to go for the wm6 image black 2.5 as its been always the most stable for me, so read the wiki and all the documents to upgrade your hermes to that version.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=26
and don't run in the upgrade, take your time to read everything and if you don't understand something, come back here.

redaatef said:
I have a TyTN unlocked device, and want to upgrade to WM6.
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It depends on your personal reasons for upgrading. If you want to upgrade because of more speed and more stability you should try Black 2.5. If you are doing it because of adventuresomeness you should give all of the great roms here a try.
But at least you should try Black 2.5, Duttys V2 and Custels 1.3 to find out which one is the best for you. You should also try different radios to see if theres a difference in your area.
And don't forget the most important object: read mrvanx upgrade guides very very carefully and follow every step exactly.

be aware that the ROMs here are *unofficial* and *unsupported* ROMs.
HTC will NOT help you out if you screw up your device.
if you are unsure about flashing, then stay with the stock ROM.

I have a UK unlocked Tytn and would very strongly recommend Black 2.5.
My first ever ROM upgrade was Black 1.2 and it was soo god. 2.0 was even better and 2.5 better still. Have had no problems, battery life is much better, doesn't lockup/freeze any more, loads more memory available.....i could go on.
Go for it - follow mrvanx's upgrade guide. he makes it very easy

Flashig roms is one way... be careful...

When I first flashed a WM6 Rom on to my HERMES I made sure I read all the preinstall instructions very carefully as I didn't have a clue about flashing. MR VANX's guide is excellent, follow it carefully and you can't go wrong.
I have now successfully flashed numerous ROMS on to my device.
No-one can tell you which is the best ROM as they are all excellent for their own different features and customisations. You will need to try a few and see which you like best.
Good Luck.

I highly doubt
That an HTC representative sent someone here for ROM updates to WM 6.0.
If they did and are caught, they will probably be terminated.
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.

Thank you
Thank you a lot for your replies guys. They helped me a lot. I'll do the upgrade and will back to you with the results. Thanks again.

silverfox0214 said:
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
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It always amazes me how corporate structures can be so schizoid. I too have received- from in-the-trenches personel- a pointer to this site specifically for beta testing WM6 Push. Conversely, the moderators here made it clear that management at HTC was a major impetus behind MS's request that the ftp archives be pulled.
The kicker for me is that the Wiki on HTC's US site specifically points to this XDA-developers and those postings are all vetted by someone at HTC USA. I'm thankful for that because that's how I found this site in the first place.

My Upgrading Status
First of all, I would like to add my voice to (teambnet) that I'm thankful for them to made me know this website and forum in the first place.
OK, about my upgrading status guys, I did exactely as shown in mrvanx.org website and did install WM6 Black 2.5, everything is gone fine except one thing, that the button of contact voice tag is not working. When I push that button, it gives me a message "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename.", I tried then to assign the shortcut to a program by going to Start --> Settings --> Buttons, but I couldn't find the program that should be assigned. I don't know if my problem are clear or not but I tried to explain as much I could. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks all,
Reda,

teambnet said:
The kicker for me is that the Wiki on HTC's US site specifically points to this XDA-developers and those postings are all vetted by someone at HTC USA. I'm thankful for that because that's how I found this site in the first place.
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I always suspected that secretly HTC were using us as beta testing guinea pigs, now it looks like I was right! And half of the fixes for their bugs are created by developers on this site.
Seriously though, if your Hermes is no longer covered by the original HTC warranty (as mine was from the very first day I got it, since I bought it from an "unauthorized" distributor), then HTC have nothing to lose by pointing someone to this site. They might as well have said, "Flush it down the toilet for all we care..."
John

HTC's wiki is just like ours, anyone can edit it... So i doubt that HTC themselves put a link to XDA on their wiki, but someone else probably did..

You need to install the voice commander CAB located on the first page of BLACK2.5 Then remap the button.
You should read thru the numerous posted before asked already resolved issues. Congrats on the UPGRADE!!!
redaatef said:
First of all, I would like to add my voice to (teambnet) that I'm thankful for them to made me know this website and forum in the first place.
OK, about my upgrading status guys, I did exactely as shown in mrvanx.org website and did install WM6 Black 2.5, everything is gone fine except one thing, that the button of contact voice tag is not working. When I push that button, it gives me a message "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename.", I tried then to assign the shortcut to a program by going to Start --> Settings --> Buttons, but I couldn't find the program that should be assigned. I don't know if my problem are clear or not but I tried to explain as much I could. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks all,
Reda,
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Finally Finished
Hi all,
Thank you stuckes, I did as you told me and everything gone very nice. WM6 is a nice OS, not that much different from WM5 at least for me. But, it's nice. Thank you all for your help in that.
I got a question, when I would to upgrade, there are many versions of WM6, Black2.5 and other versions, where can I find a complete comparison with screenshots of them to decide if I'm gonna change to another one or stick to black 2.5?
Regards,

Arnie gets tough with the chefs.....
silverfox0214 said:
That an HTC representative sent someone here for ROM updates to WM 6.0.
If they did and are caught, they will probably be TERMINATED.
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
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Asta la vista baby !

hi ... what about black 3.00 for may tytn
thanks

naxos said:
hi ... what about black 3.00 for may tytn
thanks
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Is there black 3.00? where can we find more details about it?

redaatef said:
Is there black 3.00? where can we find more details about it?
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There's a black 3.0.1.
Easily found along with a list of many other ROMs on the wiki page here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
And this is the link to the Black 3.0.1 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305940
HTH, Oggy.

Official WM6 has broken my TomTom PLUS subscription

guys,
I upgraded to the official ANZ WM6 ROM, and it has changed my TomTom device ID which means I now cannot use the Traffic service (I already changed the device a few months back when I bought my Trinity).
I mailed TT support and they say then need a letter from my phone manufacturer explaining that the internal device ID has changed with the new ROM. TomTom base their device ID on the internal device ID (according to their support folks).
Has anyone else encountered this issue?
Can anyone point me to an article or suggest a way to get some info from Dopod, HTC, or Microsoft about what WM6 does regarding device ID?
Thanks in advance.

Don't feel that bad It happened to me too. I contacted Tomtom guys and they were happy to give me a new code. But guess what, if you happen to do a hard reset and reinstall Tomtom, the code changes again. When I contacted Tomtom about this issue they said the following:
Dear Gilbert,
Thank you for contacting TomTom support regarding the difficulty that you are experiencing trying to install NAVIGATOR 6 on your PDA. We are glad to assist!
The new NAVIGATOR 6 is compatible with Windows mobile 6, although, it is not compatible with your HTC P3600. If you decide to install NAVIGATOR 6 on your HTC P3600 you may keep experiencing problems that we might not be able to assist you with. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
Thank you again for contacting us, if you have any further questions or comments, please e-mail or call us at 1-866-486-6866 Monday through Friday, 8:30 am to 7 pm EST.
Remember that at TomTom we believe in showing you the way, the easy way.
Best Regards,
TomTom support
______________________________________________________________
How lovely. I am already pissed about this as I cannot use my device with the current version for the Trinity.
Cheers,
Gilbert

thanks Gilbert- but that's terrible! I've had quite a few problems with TT6 going wrong on my P3600. Even when I downloaded the specific 6.03 revision.
At least you got somewhere with TomTom.
Do you have a support number I could give to them (as reference) by any chance?
cheers

I have Orange SPV M700 branded version of the Trinity which I bought off ebay & unlocked using tools available on this site & loaded the HTC 3600 rom. I loaded my existing TTN6 & had to reactivate but all went well as I was past 6 months since the 1st activation.
Anyway its been less than a month & I've now loaded the Dopod WM6 onto my phone but couldn't activate TTN6 due to new device code. I emailed TomTom on Thursday saying that I updated my Dopod D810 to official Dopod WM6 update. They emailed me new activation code today & all is working fine.

The Dopod ROM has a bug that changes the TTN Device Code; the other ROM's, official or otherwise don't seem to have the bug.
Once the new ROM is installed, the new Device Code ought to remain the same, even after a hard reset, but there will be problems if you later upgrade/downgrade the ROM, because the DC will probably revert back to the original one.
I've gone SPV M700 Orange -> HTC WM5 Official -> Mun-Rus WM6 SE and TE -> Dopod Beta WM6 (changed Device Code) -> Mun-Rus TE (Device Code reverted to original)
TomTom did offer me a new Activation Code, but required a copy of the device proof of purchase, and it took 2 weeks, so I reverted to the Mun-Rus ROM.
Your previous Device/Activation codes will all be visible on ttcode.com as long as you have your map Product Code so changing back to the original Device Code is OK for activating the maps. The problem is that even if you can reactivate the maps, TomTom Home will not let you revert to an older device association on your account, so even if TTN6 works, TT Home will not.
There is currently no fix for this- TomTom Support say they don't allow regression of account associations in TT Home.
For these reasons I've now abandoned TomTom in favour of iGO2006

Great another reason for not going down the Dopod ROM way.

It is not just TT... WM6 upgrade changes the Code of all my applications

Another way to approach it: each hard reset lets you download a new city map ;-)

man2003 said:
It is not just TT... WM6 upgrade changes the Code of all my applications
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There are a number of methods for generating device codes- based on IMEI, Owner Name, Device Name and other, deeper methods!
A lot of my programs have a new device code with each ROM, but the developers generally issue a new license without problems.
The trouble with TomTom is that previously, the Device Code has remained the same through all ROM updates, and they have linked their antipiracy policies to that. The recent problem with TT and device code changes has meant they have been caught off guard, and initially refused to do anything about it. I think the attitude is beginning to change, with the release of an 'official ROM' that changes the Device Code, but they still can't (or won't?) handle reverting your TT Home account to an older Device Code.

Don't sweat it!
sickboy555 said:
guys,
I upgraded to the official ANZ WM6 ROM, and it has changed my TomTom device ID which means I now cannot use the Traffic service (I already changed the device a few months back when I bought my Trinity).
I mailed TT support and they say then need a letter from my phone manufacturer explaining that the internal device ID has changed with the new ROM. TomTom base their device ID on the internal device ID (according to their support folks).
Has anyone else encountered this issue?
Can anyone point me to an article or suggest a way to get some info from Dopod, HTC, or Microsoft about what WM6 does regarding device ID?
Thanks in advance.
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Hey guy! Don't sweat it! My TomTom works perfectly in WM6. How reassuring does that make you feel? Probalby very little if any! So don't sweat it! Just try updating your TomTom here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/39292849/TomTom_6.030_by_Luigi.ING.cab
It worked for me, and don't forget to give credit and possibly a donation to Luigi for making this all possible!

Wolfyy7 said:
Hey guy! Don't sweat it! My TomTom works perfectly in WM6. How reassuring does that make you feel? Probalby very little if any! So don't sweat it! Just try updating your TomTom here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/39292849/TomTom_6.030_by_Luigi.ING.cab
It worked for me, and don't forget to give credit and possibly a donation to Luigi for making this all possible!
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Hey Guys! Thanks for this. Athena user strayed here and stumbled upon this. What a relief. I was about to pour out some invectives on TomTom.Wrote to them almost 3 weeks ago and got the same response as others above. Thanks for sharing. By the way who is Luigi
I have 3 subscriptions of TT, but It looks like they don't appreciate their genuine customers

victoradjei said:
Hey Guys! Thanks for this. Athena user strayed here and stumbled upon this. What a relief. I was about to pour out some invectives on TomTom.Wrote to them almost 3 weeks ago and got the same response as others above. Thanks for sharing. By the way who is Luigi
I have 3 subscriptions of TT, but It looks like they don't appreciate their genuine customers
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Here is the link to where you can find Luigi's Rom page. Believe it or not his page was banned because he wasn't able to write in English! Now his page is used for "informational" purposes!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1292874

guys thanks, BUT a few points.
1) My TomTom works fine- it is TomTom TRAFFIC which doesn't.
2) I really want an official HTC ROM (and anyway don't fancy resetting it again!).
3) My Italian is not so good, so it would need to be English ;-)
For these reasons I need TomTom to add my new device code to my account.
It's coming up to 10 days since I logged the call- I've had lots of responses, asking for a letter of proof, and saying it has been reset (but it still doesn't work).

Wolfyy7 said:
Hey guy! Don't sweat it! My TomTom works perfectly in WM6. How reassuring does that make you feel? Probalby very little if any! So don't sweat it! Just try updating your TomTom here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/39292849/TomTom_6.030_by_Luigi.ING.cab
It worked for me, and don't forget to give credit and possibly a donation to Luigi for making this all possible!
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A donation for something illegal?

Wolfyy7 said:
Here is the link to where you can find Luigi's Rom page. Believe it or not his page was banned because he wasn't able to write in English!
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Not exactly. No-one was banned. The thread has been closed because this person was just ignoring again and again the rules of this forum.

hello
like everybody , since i have upgrade to WM6 , my device code has changed.
So my traffic option doesn't work anymore
but where is the problem ? i have only changed this device code on the site tomtom.com and now i can use this option in WM6
perhaps i don't understand the thread , but why have you write to tomtom ?
Regards

hi - you can only change the device code ONCE every 6 months.
Then you have to write to support.
I bought my Trinity a few months back, and changed from my M600....

ach so .......
oups ...
so if i want to reverse back to WM5 , i have to wait or write to tomtom
thank you for this information

exactly :-(
I don't understand TomTom's logic.....

WORD...
anonimo said:
A donation for something illegal?
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Why the hell are you here?...If you are protesting to something that is not illegal on this site then go away and never come back.

android on i780

Any project or ppl working on this?

Not that i have heard of, i would have thought it is pretty unlikely to happen to be honest. Probably more chance of it on the I900.
I dont think our I780 user group is big enough for there to be the demand needed to make it worth someone doing it.

i dun think so man, it is a great challenge to do tat

i really wait eagerly for the day that i port my i780 to android! some people got to be working on this

strandkanten1 said:
i really wait eagerly for the day that i port my i780 to android! some people got to be working on this
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Tis is a promissing post:
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/...their-first-android-based-phone#comment691600

Micronics said:
Tis is a promissing post:
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/...their-first-android-based-phone#comment691600
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Dear,
it's looks like cool if samsung i780 could run android too...
any one want to try this ?
thx

Who is still interested by putting Android on his i780 ? I am personnaly interested ! who can upload the rom ?

i think, the first thing we should do is download the SDK and try to dump it into i780 if possible
thx

jouledoc said:
i think, the first thing we should do is download the SDK and try to dump it into i780 if possible
thx
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We know that is some part of the world, the i780 is or is going to be distributed with Android installed on it, so for sure, maybe trying to dump these roms & to install them on ours, should be the first & best simple step, no ?
That's why I was asking for Android ROM as it should exists for i780 in some part of the world
Anyway, I just installed the Eclipse environment for the Android SDK... in the case of....

ME!
I would certainly like to run android on my i780.
The one reason i got it, was because of the touchscreen+qwerty setup, but the touch screen is pretty much useless as it is.... Well except from playing Lemmings CS, that is.
Bugs and a terrible UI are the main drawbacks of this device.
The only way I have managed to get sort of a finger friendly interface on it, is with spb mobile shell and the 320x320 theme pack. But it is not a todayplugin, and so "pop-ups" does not work properly, and it will go back to the WM today-page when clicking the end-button or exiting many apps.
WM was never made for a mobile phone device. Neither for being navigated without a stylus. I believe that is the main reason why it suck so much at both. Android on the other hand...
And from what I have seen so far, it looks nice. Me wants.
edit: Seems like the Koogan Agore was never released? A comment somewhere seems to point the finger at google an some google certification problem.. Still, maybe someone could mail them and ask nicely for the ROM?

I hate saying this, but is there any news? Maybe someone spotted some news on the web?
I found a video which showed two Samsungs running Android. The Omnia and the i780/Epix.
I'm searching for a couple of minutes now, but I can't find it anymore.

[email protected] said:
I hate saying this, but is there any news? Maybe someone spotted some news on the web?
I found a video which showed two Samsungs running Android. The Omnia and the i780/Epix.
I'm searching for a couple of minutes now, but I can't find it anymore.
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None of Follow-ups been found yet.
Tried tech-specs as keyword?

I supposed to seeing Andriod running on i780,
Anyone can do it?
THX

intrestinghttp://www.androidoni780.blogspot.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xpEe_qWpEc

Umm guys, check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481144&page=40

Android runs on Samsung i780
There were many portings of i780 and they only support basic touch screen. This guy finally makes it supports WiFi, Call and SMS.
http://blog.androidpub.com/26843

chaosnote said:
There were many portings of i780 and they only support basic touch screen. This guy finally makes it supports WiFi, Call and SMS.
http://blog.androidpub.com/26843
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Looks promising indeed! Do you know how stable is this?

so has there been any significant breaktrhough regarding android and the i780
I had the wm6.0, then the 6.5 and now the 6.1, but I find them all to be much too unstable and to fidly to even bother learning more about them.
I did like the wm6.5 interface a lot and I believe android would be a class above everything else regarding UI
Also the guy on the blog posted an image with the android.
http://rapidshare.com/files/274595827/Image

Bogzilla said:
so has there been any significant breaktrhough regarding android and the i780
I had the wm6.0, then the 6.5 and now the 6.1, but I find them all to be much too unstable and to fidly to even bother learning more about them.
I did like the wm6.5 interface a lot and I believe android would be a class above everything else regarding UI
Also the guy on the blog posted an image with the android.
http://rapidshare.com/files/274595827/Image
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Any developments? is anyone working on an Android ROM for our i780?

http://androidoni780.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-to-get-android-on-your-i780-you.html

ZTE N61 (portuguese TMN Bluebelt) - ROMS?

Hi,
these in to ask for help to all ROM experts around here. I´ve had several QTEK/HTC and it was with all the help from you that I got the most of them!
Now (and lots of people, specially in Portugal) have a ZTE N61 (Portuguese clone is called TMN BLUEBELT).
http://images.google.pt/images?hl=pt-PT&q=tmn%20bluebelt&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
People already found how to access bootloader, hard reset, etc but we´re stuck with the default WM 6.1. This is a very nice and cheap phone with a Qualcomm 528Mhz CPU, 64 or 96Mb of RAM (AFAIK), 3.2MP AF camera, WIFI, BT A2DP, A-GPS, 256Mb ROM.
If anyone knows how to get the ROM, change it and how to update it on the phone it would be FANTASTIC. I hope Portuguese people and ZTE N61 (and clones) owners care to join in here, please post/help/find help

anyone?

Hello,
I'm a Portuguese user of this phone, and an upgrade to this ROOM would be great specially the photo and video features.
Best regards

It seems like not in your wildest dreams a guess...

I dont believe that will ever get a rom kitchen or even a new rom in XDA-Devs, cause the phone in question is only sold in China and in Portugal
I guess, that´s the price to pay wen someone buys a cheap phone :S

someone has already unlock?
IS that possible?

A nice piece of electronics but damn...this camera needs some work! Not enough ligh. Outside=gr8; Insinde=0. :S

Count me in
If I know about something, I'll post back here.
Cumps.

I wish I could find a fix for the VideoCamera that Record really slowly (like 1 frame per second!).
And the possibility to run Internet Explorer using WIFI, without connecting to the GPRS.

yes, it is possible!
go to "ligações do browser" in teh settings and mark up the detectar definições automáticamente.
Also, when you run IE, it will open TMN services, so, that's why u'll get a error.
anyway, myself use opera on my bluebelt.
about the video stuff, check mine here:
http://www.pocketpt.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=28378&st=580&gopid=194256&#entry194256
first post in that place.
i did a recording. sure, it's not amazing, indeed the maximum is a interpolation.
But at least, is not the 1 frame only.
try to hard reset your device, btw.

i forgot another thing!
if u want, you can use a app named "nodata" to block the grps connections.

What about Windows Phones ?
Anyone ever heard of it ?
BTW, still looking for those ROMs. It can even be with 6.1, but in ENGLISH, please.
Kind regards.

Guess it´s up to us BlueBelt users to figure it out.. about the rom, there´s an official upgrade in TmN´S SITE... but no news bout the damn camera (pretty good in day light.. but in night time better do a drawing...

Hi Guys!
I have one of this, but not from TMN... This is a free with Chinaunicom logo. The WM6.1 installed does not contain any software for the GPS, no application can find it! Is there a TMN english ROM somewhere? I guess some device driver is missing...

i updated my bluebelt with the new room update provided by tmn ( its the working phone call operator that i'm blocked in the pda ) and don't have any problems with the camera...
but im not sure if it was a problem with the phone or the software cause i never tried to work with the camera until i made the update.
i dont use it to camera work lool
thks

here you have the url to the update...
version 12 is the last... i think...
http://www.tmn.pt/TMN Institucional/Minisites/Bluebelt/documentos/BluebeltSoftwareUpdate.zip

Dev Null said:
Hi Guys!
I have one of this, but not from TMN... This is a free with Chinaunicom logo. The WM6.1 installed does not contain any software for the GPS, no application can find it! Is there a TMN english ROM somewhere? I guess some device driver is missing...
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hi your phone have internal gps?
cause in our case we can use our licence from ndrive but one friend of me many gps programs on it and worked... tom tom navigo and others...
only need the program gpsgate to make the porforwarding i think...
i really dont know sure how to do it but i know it works fine...
many other users of portugal did it...

neros said:
someone has already unlock?
IS that possible?
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sim já se desbloqueia e só com codigos-facil

jd1967 said:
sim já se desbloqueia e só com codigos-facil
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How do you insert the code?
Or, how do you generate the code?

I have codes for that deviçes.

Toshiba TG01: change language in WM6.5

hello,
I have been over most discussions here and I did not find a
solution. I know it was not possible before, but I was wondering
if a way has been found yet.
I currently have a brand new Orange FRENCH TG01 that came
with Windows Moblie 6.5 pre-installed. My only problem is that
I want an english interface / OS. Once more, I know it was not
possible before but did anyone find a solution yet? Since I have
2 weeks to decide if I am going to keep the phone, I would be
very grateful for any feedback.
regards,
Joris

UP

thanks.. but for what?
Anyway, I am still looking for a way to put my phone in English instead of French.

You need change all MUI and DLL...
but you need use 192 version of WM6.5
Other Wait if one day a XDA dev want be test to create a kitchen or unlock TSW... XDA is an HTC lover site... damn...
i hope one day... i hope...