Official WM6 has broken my TomTom PLUS subscription - P3600 ROM Development

guys,
I upgraded to the official ANZ WM6 ROM, and it has changed my TomTom device ID which means I now cannot use the Traffic service (I already changed the device a few months back when I bought my Trinity).
I mailed TT support and they say then need a letter from my phone manufacturer explaining that the internal device ID has changed with the new ROM. TomTom base their device ID on the internal device ID (according to their support folks).
Has anyone else encountered this issue?
Can anyone point me to an article or suggest a way to get some info from Dopod, HTC, or Microsoft about what WM6 does regarding device ID?
Thanks in advance.

Don't feel that bad It happened to me too. I contacted Tomtom guys and they were happy to give me a new code. But guess what, if you happen to do a hard reset and reinstall Tomtom, the code changes again. When I contacted Tomtom about this issue they said the following:
Dear Gilbert,
Thank you for contacting TomTom support regarding the difficulty that you are experiencing trying to install NAVIGATOR 6 on your PDA. We are glad to assist!
The new NAVIGATOR 6 is compatible with Windows mobile 6, although, it is not compatible with your HTC P3600. If you decide to install NAVIGATOR 6 on your HTC P3600 you may keep experiencing problems that we might not be able to assist you with. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
Thank you again for contacting us, if you have any further questions or comments, please e-mail or call us at 1-866-486-6866 Monday through Friday, 8:30 am to 7 pm EST.
Remember that at TomTom we believe in showing you the way, the easy way.
Best Regards,
TomTom support
______________________________________________________________
How lovely. I am already pissed about this as I cannot use my device with the current version for the Trinity.
Cheers,
Gilbert

thanks Gilbert- but that's terrible! I've had quite a few problems with TT6 going wrong on my P3600. Even when I downloaded the specific 6.03 revision.
At least you got somewhere with TomTom.
Do you have a support number I could give to them (as reference) by any chance?
cheers

I have Orange SPV M700 branded version of the Trinity which I bought off ebay & unlocked using tools available on this site & loaded the HTC 3600 rom. I loaded my existing TTN6 & had to reactivate but all went well as I was past 6 months since the 1st activation.
Anyway its been less than a month & I've now loaded the Dopod WM6 onto my phone but couldn't activate TTN6 due to new device code. I emailed TomTom on Thursday saying that I updated my Dopod D810 to official Dopod WM6 update. They emailed me new activation code today & all is working fine.

The Dopod ROM has a bug that changes the TTN Device Code; the other ROM's, official or otherwise don't seem to have the bug.
Once the new ROM is installed, the new Device Code ought to remain the same, even after a hard reset, but there will be problems if you later upgrade/downgrade the ROM, because the DC will probably revert back to the original one.
I've gone SPV M700 Orange -> HTC WM5 Official -> Mun-Rus WM6 SE and TE -> Dopod Beta WM6 (changed Device Code) -> Mun-Rus TE (Device Code reverted to original)
TomTom did offer me a new Activation Code, but required a copy of the device proof of purchase, and it took 2 weeks, so I reverted to the Mun-Rus ROM.
Your previous Device/Activation codes will all be visible on ttcode.com as long as you have your map Product Code so changing back to the original Device Code is OK for activating the maps. The problem is that even if you can reactivate the maps, TomTom Home will not let you revert to an older device association on your account, so even if TTN6 works, TT Home will not.
There is currently no fix for this- TomTom Support say they don't allow regression of account associations in TT Home.
For these reasons I've now abandoned TomTom in favour of iGO2006

Great another reason for not going down the Dopod ROM way.

It is not just TT... WM6 upgrade changes the Code of all my applications

Another way to approach it: each hard reset lets you download a new city map ;-)

man2003 said:
It is not just TT... WM6 upgrade changes the Code of all my applications
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There are a number of methods for generating device codes- based on IMEI, Owner Name, Device Name and other, deeper methods!
A lot of my programs have a new device code with each ROM, but the developers generally issue a new license without problems.
The trouble with TomTom is that previously, the Device Code has remained the same through all ROM updates, and they have linked their antipiracy policies to that. The recent problem with TT and device code changes has meant they have been caught off guard, and initially refused to do anything about it. I think the attitude is beginning to change, with the release of an 'official ROM' that changes the Device Code, but they still can't (or won't?) handle reverting your TT Home account to an older Device Code.

Don't sweat it!
sickboy555 said:
guys,
I upgraded to the official ANZ WM6 ROM, and it has changed my TomTom device ID which means I now cannot use the Traffic service (I already changed the device a few months back when I bought my Trinity).
I mailed TT support and they say then need a letter from my phone manufacturer explaining that the internal device ID has changed with the new ROM. TomTom base their device ID on the internal device ID (according to their support folks).
Has anyone else encountered this issue?
Can anyone point me to an article or suggest a way to get some info from Dopod, HTC, or Microsoft about what WM6 does regarding device ID?
Thanks in advance.
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Hey guy! Don't sweat it! My TomTom works perfectly in WM6. How reassuring does that make you feel? Probalby very little if any! So don't sweat it! Just try updating your TomTom here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/39292849/TomTom_6.030_by_Luigi.ING.cab
It worked for me, and don't forget to give credit and possibly a donation to Luigi for making this all possible!

Wolfyy7 said:
Hey guy! Don't sweat it! My TomTom works perfectly in WM6. How reassuring does that make you feel? Probalby very little if any! So don't sweat it! Just try updating your TomTom here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/39292849/TomTom_6.030_by_Luigi.ING.cab
It worked for me, and don't forget to give credit and possibly a donation to Luigi for making this all possible!
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Hey Guys! Thanks for this. Athena user strayed here and stumbled upon this. What a relief. I was about to pour out some invectives on TomTom.Wrote to them almost 3 weeks ago and got the same response as others above. Thanks for sharing. By the way who is Luigi
I have 3 subscriptions of TT, but It looks like they don't appreciate their genuine customers

victoradjei said:
Hey Guys! Thanks for this. Athena user strayed here and stumbled upon this. What a relief. I was about to pour out some invectives on TomTom.Wrote to them almost 3 weeks ago and got the same response as others above. Thanks for sharing. By the way who is Luigi
I have 3 subscriptions of TT, but It looks like they don't appreciate their genuine customers
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Here is the link to where you can find Luigi's Rom page. Believe it or not his page was banned because he wasn't able to write in English! Now his page is used for "informational" purposes!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1292874

guys thanks, BUT a few points.
1) My TomTom works fine- it is TomTom TRAFFIC which doesn't.
2) I really want an official HTC ROM (and anyway don't fancy resetting it again!).
3) My Italian is not so good, so it would need to be English ;-)
For these reasons I need TomTom to add my new device code to my account.
It's coming up to 10 days since I logged the call- I've had lots of responses, asking for a letter of proof, and saying it has been reset (but it still doesn't work).

Wolfyy7 said:
Hey guy! Don't sweat it! My TomTom works perfectly in WM6. How reassuring does that make you feel? Probalby very little if any! So don't sweat it! Just try updating your TomTom here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/39292849/TomTom_6.030_by_Luigi.ING.cab
It worked for me, and don't forget to give credit and possibly a donation to Luigi for making this all possible!
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A donation for something illegal?

Wolfyy7 said:
Here is the link to where you can find Luigi's Rom page. Believe it or not his page was banned because he wasn't able to write in English!
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Not exactly. No-one was banned. The thread has been closed because this person was just ignoring again and again the rules of this forum.

hello
like everybody , since i have upgrade to WM6 , my device code has changed.
So my traffic option doesn't work anymore
but where is the problem ? i have only changed this device code on the site tomtom.com and now i can use this option in WM6
perhaps i don't understand the thread , but why have you write to tomtom ?
Regards

hi - you can only change the device code ONCE every 6 months.
Then you have to write to support.
I bought my Trinity a few months back, and changed from my M600....

ach so .......
oups ...
so if i want to reverse back to WM5 , i have to wait or write to tomtom
thank you for this information

exactly :-(
I don't understand TomTom's logic.....

WORD...
anonimo said:
A donation for something illegal?
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Why the hell are you here?...If you are protesting to something that is not illegal on this site then go away and never come back.

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sent my xda 2 to o2(uk) for repairs, returned UK Rom 1.66

This, I assume, is the very latest UK rom, I had 1.60 before that. Getting the machine tomorrow, will post exact rom then, however I do not know how to copy it and send it you guys, can anyone explain in the simplest term how to do this? I have XP, Thanks
out of interest, what was wrong with the XDAII?
Reply
it would freeze and only a hard reset could fix this when connected to a Socket SDIO card, this would happen every 3 or 4 days.
Re: sent my xda 2 to o2(uk) for repairs, returned UK Rom 1.6
mikeycollins13 said:
This, I assume, is the very latest UK rom, I had 1.60 before that. Getting the machine tomorrow, will post exact rom then, however I do not know how to copy it and send it you guys, can anyone explain in the simplest term how to do this? I have XP, Thanks
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If it's arriving tomorow, how do you already know it's 1.66 mate?
And just for interest, I seem to recall that the GERMAN version of the O2 ROM was just released last week at 1.66 - I wonder if this is a version of this for a UK market, or if O2 are about to release 1.66 over here too.
Anyone know how he can 'reverse assemble' it from his device so he can share it?
i had the same freezing issues but my device was 1.66
but i'm pretty sure that the freezing was due to a 3th party program
been awhile since it froze last
and i doubt it could be a hardware issue since hardreset always works
Mikey Collins - keep us posted on the outcome when it arrives please...
What program caused the crashing ? PocketWinc?
And I know it is coming with 1.66 because I called them. Any idea what sort of programs could have caused this?
Re: What program caused the crashing ? PocketWinc?
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And I know it is coming with 1.66 because I called them. Any idea what sort of programs could have caused this?
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What sort of programs could have caused this? The new upgrade you mean or the re-flash?
Could be a number of things mate, though usually a hard reset will cure all your woes.
Let us know what the actual real numbers are, for your ROM, extended ROM etc, when it actually arrives, as what O2 say on the phone, and what happens in real life, are noted for how far apart they tend to be where O2 is concerened.
And there will be an awful lot of people interested in your info, so keep us posted.
New Rom
Rom 1.66.00WWE
Date 2/20/2004
Radio 1.10.00
Ext Rom 1.66209
I noticed it has a new cleartype tuner
Re: New Rom
mikeycollins13 said:
Rom 1.66.00WWE
Date 2/20/2004
Radio 1.10.00
Ext Rom 1.66209
I noticed it has a new cleartype tuner
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I emailed O2 Data Support about this, to see when or if they were intending to release 1.66.
This is my reply back from them:
Hello Mr xxxxxxx,
Thank you for your email,
After querying this with our technical team, we would like you to provide
evidence of the Rom 1.66 occurring, as we believe this not to be the case.
If you are experiencing problems with your XDA, you can replace the device
under warranty via your customer services team.s
Regards,
Paul
O2 Data Support UK
So can you give us some more info, or reply to me off board Mikey? As I suspect it is YOU that is correct, and O2 wrong, and would like to challenge them over this.
rom 1.66
screenshot
how to unlock xda2 rom 1.60.00wwe
i use xda2 unlock.exe
and press yes
get massage phone already unlocked
so how to unlock latest version
or is there after downgrade something like that
waiting for serious reply
To add
It was the technical service team that updated my phone, they warned me about Data Support.... and now you see
new rom?
Sounds good if you are right, and yes i am as critical about o2 as the rest of you, but ive found that there is an easyish way to get through to o2 on the fones if u need sumthing, call their staff accounts people on
0800131211
and since its freefone (in the uk @ least, i guess they have this sorta service elsewhere) it dont matter how long ur on the fone with them.
neway, will it be possible to upload the rom to the site?
Smiley
They are all shipping with 1.66 now
my girlfriend just got a new xd2, same OM as mine.
My xda2 which I am selling on this site also came with the new rom after they replaced the motherboard. I dont know if its me but the screen seems so much better, on a par now with the ipaq 3900 series, bright, clear, good depth of colour etc. Its for sale in the stocking up section of this site if anybody is interested. £350 Uk.
I just purchased an XDA II yesterday, and it also came with ROM version 1.66.00WWE (Incidently, the ROM date shows as 20th Feb 04)
legrath said:
I just purchased an XDA II yesterday, and it also came with ROM version 1.66.00WWE (Incidently, the ROM date shows as 20th Feb 04)
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I repeatedly Emailed O2 about this, and eventually there response was that more recent versions of the XDA2 ship with a slightly different screen (hardware wise).
New drivers are needed for this, and this is the ONLY difference in 1.66, which is not available for public download.
I emailed them back to tell them what a load of old cobblers, and that it includes a Cleartype tuner and more.
They went decidedly quiet at that point.
Any chance that O2 have fixed the Handsfree dll problem in Version 1.66? Can you get mp3 / Tom tom audio etc. to come out of the bottom connector? (Many people have a problem with the XDA II that they can only get Phone call audio to go to the bottom connector, even though the T-Mobile ROM's apparently don't have this problem.)
You can use a tool provided free on this site in the tools and software section to download your ROM to an SD card, and I assume that it can also download it to your PC.
I'm by no-means an expert, but I've had a go at fiddling with it so far and this is what I've found...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/CompleteTools
Follow the XDA Tools link and download the program, tell it to read the ROM from the device and Put it on your PC, then you can post it here.
I know this program worked with flashing the ROM from my XDA, never tried it with an XDA II though, although I will try it when I get home tomorrow.
There were a couple of more difficult to use tools provided for the XDA II that need you to log into the 'Bootloader' on the device using a command prompt (Like DOS) style program providxed by HTC (the manufacturers of the XDA and XDA II) but I can't remember where they were and I'm using my girlfriends crappy tinternet connection at the moment and can't be bothered to search the site. I'll have a more detailed set of instructions posted asap if I can find out how to do it all over the weekend.
Other than that, if anyone else can post details of how to do it, I'd be very grateful cos it all seems a lot more complicated with the XDA II to change the ROM than it was with the XDA.
Cheers,
Rom version 1.66.00 wwe
Guys be vvvvv careful when messing with this rom. If you attempt to update it to sort out the caller photograph recognition bugs you are in for a shock. Now you may already now which versions are the "older" versions but I did not and updated with the current official update from the O2 site. My XDA2 is now a one week old doorstop. Any suggestions anybody. I did back up to my SD card before the update but do not have a card reader...............yet!

***READ: Windows Mobile 2005 and XDAIIs/MDAIII/PDA2K/etc ***

Please read this before asking questions!
As of this time, there is no Blue Angel-compatible CE ROM of Windows Mobile 5 to date, in beta or final form, in circulation nor available for examination or experimentation to us.
As of this time, there are no official or unofficial plans or announcements by any manufacturer, distributor, or wireless carrier.
Please do not create new threads or post off-topic in current threads that are in regards to this UNLESS you have witnessed firsthand that one does exist or that you are or can be in possession of a Blue Angel device that has actual Windows Mobile 5 code on it.
As soon as we can get our hands on a test ROM, we will let you know as soon as possible.
Thank you.
Thanks to BeyondtheTech for the idea and text.
Possible work around
Well its a thought
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22111
If you have comments post to that thread
The Dream is OVER!!! The president of imate said it
Some dutch company interviewed the head of Imate (in English), He said it himself, that the reason was because of memory issues, and the he was afraid that everytime, the phone died or there was a hard reset, we would lose part of the operating system. heres the link to the dutch webite
Here is a link to the Web Site
Here is a Direct Link to the streaming Audio interview
i'm guessing u didn't see the thread about WM5 actually on a BA device did u? well it's true, WM5 CAN be put on a Blue Angel.
by the way, i listened to the podcast, and he was talking about the magician. now if it was the SuperJAM, then i think it would be ok. but devices with 64MB RAM, then you will have the problem. but since the BA has 128MB RAM it's ok.
Dale Coffing on his site mentions something interesting. At the end of his review on the Samsung i730, he posts a response to a reader in the comments section who was asking about WM5 on the Samsung. Here is his reply:
"I have been running Windows Mobile 5 as a development platform on a BlueAngel device (the MDA3) so it kind of spoiling me to not have some of the advanced features on the i730."
So, it seems that not only is WM5 for the BA possible, but it already exists.
Here is the link to his site: http://dalecoffing.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/06/first_look_sams.html#more
Youre right, i also read this, but we all knew this before. We know that it exists and we were very very close to getting a hand on it, severel times.
Well if Dale was as big of a bible thumper as he claims he is, he would have shared the device with us by now, after all isn't that what Christians supposed to do, share with the needy? But I suspect that his bigger passion is wth MS so I am pretty sure he won't share with us.
I emailed Dale hes a putts and eveyone on the world who has a BA with 5 and doesnt share it. There all putt's
szamot said:
Well if Dale was as big of a bible thumper as he claims he is, he would have shared the device with us by now, after all isn't that what Christians supposed to do, share with the needy? But I suspect that his bigger passion is wth MS so I am pretty sure he won't share with us.
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If hes such a "bible thumper" as you say that's the very reason he wont give out what doesn't belong to him.
EFJAY--Please help...
I’m having the problem you’ve already solved on the PDA2K with the GPRS re-connection on T-mobile. I ran "The last ones" cab file for changing the ‘flags2’ file to 16. So far so good.
The other issue of course is the need to downgrade my caller id version to 1.20 build 17957. I have the cab file for that: IA_CallerID_1.20_WWE.CAB but when I copy it from my desktop to the device and double tap it I get the same error message: “The file “\windows\iacontacts.dll” is in use or is in ROM. If the file is not in ROM, please close the application using the file.”
So, the second part of the fix is a no go. This device is my goodlink and to be honest I desperately need a work around for this bug in the 1.40 ROM. I would be EXTEMELY grateful if you could stem me through the process of downgrading the caller id .dll file to 1.20 build 17957 and somehow getting around the fact that it’s in ROM.
Thanks very much for your help. I’m afraid I’m supposed to be leaving town tomorrow late afternoon and this IMATE PDA2K was supposed to be my lifeline. Now I’m ready to throw this brick out the window and buy a treo. I’m depressed. L
I would really be grateful for any assistance. Thanks so much.
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rdaprix said:
I’m having the problem you’ve already solved on the PDA2K with the GPRS re-connection on T-mobile. I ran "The last ones" cab file for changing the ‘flags2’ file to 16. So far so good.
The other issue of course is the need to downgrade my caller id version to 1.20 build 17957. I have the cab file for that: IA_CallerID_1.20_WWE.CAB but when I copy it from my desktop to the device and double tap it I get the same error message: “The file “\windows\iacontacts.dll” is in use or is in ROM. If the file is not in ROM, please close the application using the file.”
So, the second part of the fix is a no go. This device is my goodlink and to be honest I desperately need a work around for this bug in the 1.40 ROM. I would be EXTEMELY grateful if you could stem me through the process of downgrading the caller id .dll file to 1.20 build 17957 and somehow getting around the fact that it’s in ROM.
Thanks very much for your help. I’m afraid I’m supposed to be leaving town tomorrow late afternoon and this IMATE PDA2K was supposed to be my lifeline. Now I’m ready to throw this brick out the window and buy a treo. I’m depressed. L
I would really be grateful for any assistance. Thanks so much.
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im assuming you meant to click new topic rather than reply at the top of the thread!!!, lol
Can we post in here now?
PLEASE!!??!?!?!
Or at least change the sticky to the one that says WM5 is up and running?

O2 XDA IIs - is there an *official* ROM upgrade?

Wondering if there's an official rom upgrade?
Read a few scary stories about people ROM upgrading, so just wondered if there was an official upgrade which I *know* will work and not kill anything
Cheers
there is a 1.40 asian rom update, but as o2 in uk are crap, they havent released the upgrade yet.
they will only **** it up with that o2 active crap anyway, choose another 1.40rom, and folllow wiki, u cannot got wrong.
The latest one can be downloaded from the 02 website http://www.seeo2.com/ I just installed it and its working fine
think im being dumb, cant find it on seeo2.com
i know it must be in the o2 connect section somewhere...?
any pointers? cheers mate
Here is the link to the O2 Asia 1.40 ROM update.
http://www.seeo2.com/user/XdaIIs/template/XdaIIs_ROMUpgrade_Jun2005.vm
I think you will need to have a login and valid o2 Asia xda 11s device to access it. If you have an O2 UK xda 2s, you can still download and apply this update from here (our wiki site)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.40.00_Upgrade
Hope this helps
Regards
Chris
Cheers Chris
Has anyone tried the wiki one with a uk xda 2s and can confirm its working a-ok?
Thanks again
Aslan
Hi Aslan
Yes, I have the O2 UK XDA2S and have loaded the Asia ROM (see details in my signature block] The only thing you may have to do after loading is to substitute the Caller ID cab file in the extended ROM. You only need to do this if you experience GPRS disconnects after upgrading, which is somewhat dependent on the operator/service provider you are with. Some work fine without the substitution. Who are you with?
Regards
chris
Cheers Chris - well I don't use GPRS so I'm alright I guess!
Although wondering if there's any way to do a backup which i can port over to the new ROM...too much stuff to reinstall!
Any ideas - sprite backup?
HI ASLAN
Backing up shouldn't be a problem... if you just have data you could use xback up or Sprite and back the data up to an sd card or your computer. Do you use Outlook, as that would be another way to do it via active synch. Let me know what you have to back up and I can better advise..
Regards
chris
Hi mate,
Got all the standard contacts/calendar etc which I can do by synching. But also got some progs on:
Pocket Informant
resco file explorer
tomtom navigator
and a few skyscape medical apps.
other bits too but don't really mind having to reinstall those the above are the main ones i use.
Do you know if sprite backup backs up installed programs too? Been havin' a read of this:
http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/answer.aspx?id=63&back=browse.aspx#p17
So 02 finally released their 1.40 rom. cool
anyone tried it yet? does it install the dreaded 02 crap as well?
Is there a corporate mode to this rom as well so we can get rid of the 02 software?
does it have everything that the 02 asia rom has to offer?
Aslan wrote:
Hi mate,
Got all the standard contacts/calendar etc which I can do by synching. But also got some progs on:
Pocket Informant
resco file explorer
tomtom navigator
and a few skyscape medical apps.
other bits too but don't really mind having to reinstall those the above are the main ones i use.
Do you know if sprite backup backs up installed programs too? Been havin' a read of this:
http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/answer.aspx?id=63&back=browse.aspx#p17
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Hi aslan
I do not believe that Sprite will be able to reinstate your programs. I do not know for sure, but think it unlikely after a reflash.. You could send then an e-mail to the ask a question link on the page you found to be sure though..
alitech wrote
So 02 finally released their 1.40 rom. cool
anyone tried it yet? does it install the dreaded 02 crap as well?
Is there a corporate mode to this rom as well so we can get rid of the 02 software?
does it have everything that the 02 asia rom has to offer?
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Hi alitech
The ROM discussed above is in fact the O2 ASIA ROM 1.40.923. You can load this onto your O2 UK XDA2s using the MAUgrade utility found here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.40.00_Upgradeon the wiki site, along with the WWE ROMS that are available. The O2 Asia ROM does not have the O2 Active interface, so no need for Corporate mode :wink: I guess that O2 UK will one day release its own 1.40 update for the xds 2s, which is rumoured to include a Blackberry client. Hopefully this will be before the xda2s makes it into the Science Musiem :roll:
Hope this helps
Regards
Chris
O2 UK - Most Bone Idle Organisation In UK!
Hi
I've been waiting for an official upgrade as well, but I think we will be waiting an eternity. O2 does not care about its customers one little bit - thats why we are all stuck with ancient, buggy roms while others enjoy the bug fixes in newer roms.
Many users, myself included dont have the time to fiddle around making foreign roms work.
I guess I shall have to bite the bullet and install the O2 asia rom, and prey the unit still works afterwards.
My contract ends next month, and after the 'O2 XDA IIs' episode I have had with O2, I shall never, ever pass any money their way again.
To be honest, I reckon you are far far better paying the extra money up front, buying an imate and choosing your contract yourself. They do tend to release updates in a timely mannar - which results in much less lost hair!!
The HTC universal looks nice, but there us *no way* I am gonna be paying that sort of cash for it!!
Nigel
Hi Veletron
Yes, I can't say I blame you. (and who came up with the idea to use light blue special character keys with a blue backlight I wonder?] I am actually thinking about switching to a !Qtek 9100, aka Wizard. They will be unlocked and available 5 Oct. Qtek have also been good with ROM updates I think.
Regards
Chris

~~ AGAIN. For all who always gets errors during ROMupdate ~~

Ok. I decided to write a short tutorial (because it is very very SIMPLE!!! ), how to upgrade any of the ROMs to any of Universal (jasjar, exec, qtek...), because I found 70% of the Universal upgrading etc forum posts are something like: "I can't upgrdae...", "I get an error message..." "coutry ID error..", etc.
1. Download the ROM you want to install
2. Best way to use winRAR to unpack it to a folder
3. There are 3 ROMs in the package: ms_.nbf (ExtendedROM), nk.nbf (CE ROM), radio_.nbf (Radio ROM)
4. Select those (from between this 3 ROMs) which you don't want to install
5. Delete these
6. Copy to the folder my attached file (MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe). This is the file which makes the install workable for all models of Universal.
7. Make your Universal in bootloader mode. (Push Light button + Power button + resetbutton at the same time) A lot of people get error message at the first time if they were not in bootloader mode. Those people can install the ROM the second time. If you are in bootloader mode you won't get error message.
8. Doubleclick to MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe. A window come up with the old ROMs and the new ROMs which will be upgraded. When this windows comes up, it is very important to wait a few seconds (5sec is enough) before you push the upgrade button.
9. Upgrade.
10. Wait until the installation program says in a window: Congratulations. Push OK button.
11. Pull out the USB cable from the Universal.
12. Do a cold reset (push the two menu buttons ("-") on the keyboard + the reset button at the same time (all of this three)
13. Everything should be fine from this time. You have to calibrate the screen and do some tutorial...
(14. If you want your Universal not to install ExtendedROM, make a softreset after setup is complete. (a popup window pops up you have 3 seconds before it installs ExtendedROM))
That's it.
It woked for me anytime in any case with any of Universals.
I hope this will help for lots of people.
Cheers
Cool! 8)
This way I see it is that there are many people out there with these (and many other) basic questions that want answering and indeed the same questions keep cropping up. A post like this is great BUT it's visibility only lasts a couple of days untill it gets swamped by more recent threads - I don't see the mod's stickying anything!!!!!
Hence: this forum could be SO much better if each section had a GUIDES area where people can submit threads like this!
>>>> ANYONE ?? <<<<
Andy
I'm totally agree!
HEY MODERATORS!
underwurlde, I have an alternative suggestion. If moderators don't push this to a special place, we have to write here something like "..." twice a day. :lol: :wink:
Why don't you put it in this forum's wiki resource? I'm sure a lot of users would be very grateful for this information!
wiki.xda-developers.com
Damm it!
How do I go to bootloader mode? and how do I know if I am at it?
Do I have to be with my activesync connected by usb to Qtek9000?
I start the maupgradeut_noid_637 and nothing happens...
Txs
Damm it!
How do I go to bootloader mode? and how do I know if I am at it?
Do I have to be with my activesync connected by usb to Qtek9000?
I start the maupgradeut_noid_637 and nothing happens...
Txs
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GOD I HATE BEING RIGHT :lol: :lol:
@Tuningszocske - ever watch 'Shawshank Redemption'? - I wonder if a daily 'bump' will piss them off into action as you suggest.
Andy 8)
Deiota said:
Damm it!
How do I go to bootloader mode? and how do I know if I am at it?
Do I have to be with my activesync connected by usb to Qtek9000?
I start the maupgradeut_noid_637 and nothing happens...
Txs
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Okay. It seems you did not read my first post.
To put your Universal into bootloader mode, read 7th point.
And how do you know you are in bootloader mode?
You can see just a blank screen with the title serial or USB on the top and something like v1.00 on the bottom. You will recognize it.
I hope :?
underwurlde said:
GOD I HATE BEING RIGHT :lol: :lol:
@Tuningszocske - ever watch 'Shawshank Redemption'? - I wonder if a daily 'bump' will piss them off into action as you suggest.
Andy 8)
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Ever watch??? This is one of my favorite films. But I cannot draw any parallel between this film and your post, but I'm sure it is because I'm hungarian and my english is something that your german So, sleng is standing above my english knowledge.
I just posted some instructions on Wiki - I hope they help
Per the suggestion, I just posted some instructions on Wiki. Take a look an see what you think. Hopefully more can be added and these can be refined to be more understandable. At least it's a start.
Here is the Wiki Universal page http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
This is the three I added, under How to upgrade to the latest ROM (currently 1.30.68)
Detailed Instruction On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tion On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method
Instructions for those stuck on Boot Screen http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Instructions for those stuck on Boot Screen
Instructions for those with Country Code error http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Instructions for those with Country Code error
Cool!
olliesshop, if you want you can use my tutorial to add more things to the wiki site. I think mixing of your and mine tutorial would be enough for the most helpless people too. I missed from mine removeing SD and SIM card, and not to use USB hub.
I hope, one day people will understand this very very "sofisticated" method.
To Deiota It looks like when you are in bootloader mode without things in the center. (But there are when you completed the upgrade.)
Hello!
Thanks you all for your help!
I've already did the upgrade! But I have a "stupid" (maybe) question.
When I was upgrading my Qtek 9000 with JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe, it appeard a photo of a I-mate PDA, but not Jasjar. Is it OK? Is this ROM for my Qtek 9000 (or Jasjar)?
I realized that the package software that comes with I-mate is best, at least more complete then Qtek! Another thing, why or how is it possible that the same device, comes with WM5 (both) and some features included in I-mate and not in Qtek. I'm talking about the "Device unlocked" that happears in the Today Screen.
I just want to confirm that this ROM is right for me, and that It is best than my Qtek Original one!
Should be ok
From what I understand this imate ROM upgrade should work for all the HTC Universal phones, including; Universal Dopod 900 / Qtek 9000 / MDA Pro / I-mate JASJAR / O2 Xda Exec / SPV M5000 / Qtek v1640. What's amusing is when I did the upgrade to my imate Jasjar it got locked on the blue splash screen (the one with the imate logo) and now I had to ship it in for Warranty service ... time since failure 5 days and counting. I expect it back end of next week at the earliest.
I'm glad it worked for you !!!
Deiota said:
Hello!
Thanks you all for your help!
I've already did the upgrade! But I have a "stupid" (maybe) question.
When I was upgrading my Qtek 9000 with JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe, it appeard a photo of a I-mate PDA, but not Jasjar. Is it OK? Is this ROM for my Qtek 9000 (or Jasjar)?
I realized that the package software that comes with I-mate is best, at least more complete then Qtek! Another thing, why or how is it possible that the same device, comes with WM5 (both) and some features included in I-mate and not in Qtek. I'm talking about the "Device unlocked" that happears in the Today Screen.
I just want to confirm that this ROM is right for me, and that It is best than my Qtek Original one!
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All the models have just different names but totally the same hardware (with just different paintings) because there are different service providers who want to sell it. Each service provider has a fantasy-name like O2 service provider sells it as Exec, Qtek sells it as 9000, i-mate sells it as Jasjar...
Clear?
off topic, sorry
Yo!
@Tuningszocske,
yeah there is a scene in Shawshank where Andy is trying to get money to build a library so he asks the Governor if he can write a letter - to which he agrees 'write as many as you want':
So he does: One a day. Every day. Unitl he actually gets a response, which effectively says: 'Here's $200, now go away' - So he writes TWO letters every day!!!!! Guess what? He eventually gets what he wants. :lol: This is the parallel I was making re: continually 'bumping' this thread.
The squeaky wheel always gets the grease!
Andy
Not really!
well, first I want to be sure that the Rom JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe is the right for me, since the screen that appear while upgrading has a I-mate K-Jam or something!
Second, I understand that the Software that come with one can be different from another, has it happens here!
But the MAIN Windows Mobile 5, I don't understand how...
The main thing I noticed is the "device unlocked" on today screen...
My usband has a Mio A210 that has WM5 and has the same Today item, "device unlocked". My question is why the Wtek version of Rom doesn't have uit? New version of WM5? Old one? Just different?
Txs,
Deiota
Tuningszocske said:
Deiota said:
Hello!
Thanks you all for your help!
I've already did the upgrade! But I have a "stupid" (maybe) question.
When I was upgrading my Qtek 9000 with JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe, it appeard a photo of a I-mate PDA, but not Jasjar. Is it OK? Is this ROM for my Qtek 9000 (or Jasjar)?
I realized that the package software that comes with I-mate is best, at least more complete then Qtek! Another thing, why or how is it possible that the same device, comes with WM5 (both) and some features included in I-mate and not in Qtek. I'm talking about the "Device unlocked" that happears in the Today Screen.
I just want to confirm that this ROM is right for me, and that It is best than my Qtek Original one!
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All the models have just different names but totally the same hardware (with just different paintings) because there are different service providers who want to sell it. Each service provider has a fantasy-name like O2 service provider sells it as Exec, Qtek sells it as 9000, i-mate sells it as Jasjar...
Clear?
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Wiki revised
Tuningszocske said:
Cool!
olliesshop, if you want you can use my tutorial to add more things to the wiki site. I think mixing of your and mine tutorial would be enough for the most helpless people too. I missed from mine removeing SD and SIM card, and not to use USB hub.
I hope, one day people will understand this very very "sofisticated" method.
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Take a look http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal . I updated the "Detailed Instruction On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method" instructions, by merging both. Also, your instructions are shown "as written" in the "Instructions for those with Country Code error". I hope this helps folks.
Re: off topic, sorry
underwurlde said:
Yo!
@Tuningszocske,
yeah there is a scene in Shawshank where Andy is trying to get money to build a library so he asks the Governor if he can write a letter - to which he agrees 'write as many as you want':
So he does: One a day. Every day. Unitl he actually gets a response, which effectively says: 'Here's $200, now go away' - So he writes TWO letters every day!!!!! Guess what? He eventually gets what he wants. :lol: This is the parallel I was making re: continually 'bumping' this thread.
The squeaky wheel always gets the grease!
Andy
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Hey Under!
I understand now I saw this film a long time ago. I can remember a little bit more now.
Deiota said:
Not really!
well, first I want to be sure that the Rom JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe is the right for me, since the screen that appear while upgrading has a I-mate K-Jam or something!
Second, I understand that the Software that come with one can be different from another, has it happens here!
But the MAIN Windows Mobile 5, I don't understand how...
The main thing I noticed is the "device unlocked" on today screen...
My usband has a Mio A210 that has WM5 and has the same Today item, "device unlocked". My question is why the Wtek version of Rom doesn't have uit? New version of WM5? Old one? Just different?
Txs,
Deiota
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Deiota!
For your first question: YES IT IS A RIGHT ROM FOR YOUR DEVICE. JUST COME FROM ANOTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS. DON'T BE AFRAID YOU WON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT!
For second: yes, it might be that your husband has a different version of wm5. It is something like there are many types of laptops, and there are many types of windows, and you can choose which windows you install on which laptop, but you cannot install windows on a macintosh (apple) hardware or a TabletPC, which is something similar than a normal laptop, but with a few specialities. Qtek9000/O2Exec/i-mate Jasjar... has the same hadrware like a Dell/Toshiba/HP laptops with totally the same hardware inside (same RAM size, same videocard type and capacity, same harddisk...)
So, do it.
I wouldn't injure you not for the soul of me, but if after these tutorial you don't understand the procedure, you should ask somebody to do it before you make an irreversible error during upgrading!!!! IT IS DANGEROUS,YOU CAN MAKE YOUR DEVICE TOTALLY UNUSEABLE!

HTC TyTN WM6 Upgrade ... Need Help!

Dear all,
I contacted HTC for my device upgrading and ROM updates, and they direct me to this forum.
I have a TyTN unlocked device, and want to upgrade to WM6. I explored all what you posted here but couldn't decide which version and link is suitable for me. Any way, here down my device information, and I'm appreciating any help to upgrade my device to WM6.
Device Information:
Device Name: HTC TyTN (Unlocked)
Language: English
Processor: SC32442A - 400MHz
Memory: 49.05 MB
System: Windows Mobile 5.0 OS 5.1.195 (Build 14955.2.3.0)
That are all information I could get from my device
Need Help my friends.
After all, I beleive that HTC should have an upgrade area to support their devices.
Thank you in advance.
Hi there!
its good to know that HTC assistants sent you here on this forum !!
I can suggest you to go for the wm6 image black 2.5 as its been always the most stable for me, so read the wiki and all the documents to upgrade your hermes to that version.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=26
and don't run in the upgrade, take your time to read everything and if you don't understand something, come back here.
redaatef said:
I have a TyTN unlocked device, and want to upgrade to WM6.
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It depends on your personal reasons for upgrading. If you want to upgrade because of more speed and more stability you should try Black 2.5. If you are doing it because of adventuresomeness you should give all of the great roms here a try.
But at least you should try Black 2.5, Duttys V2 and Custels 1.3 to find out which one is the best for you. You should also try different radios to see if theres a difference in your area.
And don't forget the most important object: read mrvanx upgrade guides very very carefully and follow every step exactly.
be aware that the ROMs here are *unofficial* and *unsupported* ROMs.
HTC will NOT help you out if you screw up your device.
if you are unsure about flashing, then stay with the stock ROM.
I have a UK unlocked Tytn and would very strongly recommend Black 2.5.
My first ever ROM upgrade was Black 1.2 and it was soo god. 2.0 was even better and 2.5 better still. Have had no problems, battery life is much better, doesn't lockup/freeze any more, loads more memory available.....i could go on.
Go for it - follow mrvanx's upgrade guide. he makes it very easy
Flashig roms is one way... be careful...
When I first flashed a WM6 Rom on to my HERMES I made sure I read all the preinstall instructions very carefully as I didn't have a clue about flashing. MR VANX's guide is excellent, follow it carefully and you can't go wrong.
I have now successfully flashed numerous ROMS on to my device.
No-one can tell you which is the best ROM as they are all excellent for their own different features and customisations. You will need to try a few and see which you like best.
Good Luck.
I highly doubt
That an HTC representative sent someone here for ROM updates to WM 6.0.
If they did and are caught, they will probably be terminated.
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
Thank you
Thank you a lot for your replies guys. They helped me a lot. I'll do the upgrade and will back to you with the results. Thanks again.
silverfox0214 said:
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
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It always amazes me how corporate structures can be so schizoid. I too have received- from in-the-trenches personel- a pointer to this site specifically for beta testing WM6 Push. Conversely, the moderators here made it clear that management at HTC was a major impetus behind MS's request that the ftp archives be pulled.
The kicker for me is that the Wiki on HTC's US site specifically points to this XDA-developers and those postings are all vetted by someone at HTC USA. I'm thankful for that because that's how I found this site in the first place.
My Upgrading Status
First of all, I would like to add my voice to (teambnet) that I'm thankful for them to made me know this website and forum in the first place.
OK, about my upgrading status guys, I did exactely as shown in mrvanx.org website and did install WM6 Black 2.5, everything is gone fine except one thing, that the button of contact voice tag is not working. When I push that button, it gives me a message "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename.", I tried then to assign the shortcut to a program by going to Start --> Settings --> Buttons, but I couldn't find the program that should be assigned. I don't know if my problem are clear or not but I tried to explain as much I could. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks all,
Reda,
teambnet said:
The kicker for me is that the Wiki on HTC's US site specifically points to this XDA-developers and those postings are all vetted by someone at HTC USA. I'm thankful for that because that's how I found this site in the first place.
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I always suspected that secretly HTC were using us as beta testing guinea pigs, now it looks like I was right! And half of the fixes for their bugs are created by developers on this site.
Seriously though, if your Hermes is no longer covered by the original HTC warranty (as mine was from the very first day I got it, since I bought it from an "unauthorized" distributor), then HTC have nothing to lose by pointing someone to this site. They might as well have said, "Flush it down the toilet for all we care..."
John
HTC's wiki is just like ours, anyone can edit it... So i doubt that HTC themselves put a link to XDA on their wiki, but someone else probably did..
You need to install the voice commander CAB located on the first page of BLACK2.5 Then remap the button.
You should read thru the numerous posted before asked already resolved issues. Congrats on the UPGRADE!!!
redaatef said:
First of all, I would like to add my voice to (teambnet) that I'm thankful for them to made me know this website and forum in the first place.
OK, about my upgrading status guys, I did exactely as shown in mrvanx.org website and did install WM6 Black 2.5, everything is gone fine except one thing, that the button of contact voice tag is not working. When I push that button, it gives me a message "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename.", I tried then to assign the shortcut to a program by going to Start --> Settings --> Buttons, but I couldn't find the program that should be assigned. I don't know if my problem are clear or not but I tried to explain as much I could. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks all,
Reda,
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Finally Finished
Hi all,
Thank you stuckes, I did as you told me and everything gone very nice. WM6 is a nice OS, not that much different from WM5 at least for me. But, it's nice. Thank you all for your help in that.
I got a question, when I would to upgrade, there are many versions of WM6, Black2.5 and other versions, where can I find a complete comparison with screenshots of them to decide if I'm gonna change to another one or stick to black 2.5?
Regards,
Arnie gets tough with the chefs.....
silverfox0214 said:
That an HTC representative sent someone here for ROM updates to WM 6.0.
If they did and are caught, they will probably be TERMINATED.
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
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Asta la vista baby !
hi ... what about black 3.00 for may tytn
thanks
naxos said:
hi ... what about black 3.00 for may tytn
thanks
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Is there black 3.00? where can we find more details about it?
redaatef said:
Is there black 3.00? where can we find more details about it?
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There's a black 3.0.1.
Easily found along with a list of many other ROMs on the wiki page here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
And this is the link to the Black 3.0.1 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305940
HTH, Oggy.

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