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Is there going to be an upgrade for the desire ?
Would love that ! (Flash)
Any body got some info ?
of course will be, the question is when?
thats quick ....
Are we talking months or weeks untill 'droid 2.2 comes out
The internet is being a bit tight lipped.
The deisre is lovely, but not finished yet.
flash is nice, divx is vital and 720p video is something I wsan't expecting...
How are we going to get it when its released?
Will it be a user ROM style hardware flash through PC sync or will i just download a file to my phone, click go and 10minutes later my phone is amazing??
(i'm having fun wiping smug faces of iphone owning freinds as they ask what phone I have and i show them, then tell them I've got it for £15/mnth )
you'll get it here on XDA as usual. ready to be flashed on your device as any other ROM
2.2 aka Froyo: maybe next week!!!
I read this on engadget:
Engadget's post about Froyo
I don't really want to root my phone as it's I think really good as it is but I wouldn't say no to Froyo! especially since it apparently boosts performance a lot!
Quote form Engadget: "Update: How much faster is a Nexus One running Froyo? 450 percent faster, according to the Android Police. They claim to have a device running the as-yet-unreleased firmware that can perform over 37 million floating-point operations per second in the Linpack benchmark... compared to about 7 megaflops without. Oh yeeaaah."
As soon as a Froyo rom leaks, people will rip it apart and mod it to hell to get it to run on all kinds of devices. I'm sure we'll see Paul make a 2.2 Desire ROM, for example and now that HTC has released the Kernel source code, it should be easier to port existing quality roms like Cyanogenmod to the device. They'll all require root access to flash as they're unofficial roms. HTC will probably eventually port Froyo themselves, but that will probably take months.
Still, 2.2 hasn't shown up yet, so no dice. We'll have to wait until google I/O before that happens
it's going to be loooong till HTC themselves release it..but as soon as its out for nexus we'll see it here on xda in no time!
If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.
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If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.
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Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire
will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??
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will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??
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It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.
pistonripper said:
It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.
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Oh don't be so dramatic. I could fit loads on mine just fine. And i rooted and installed apps2sd anyway. Don't get any Android phone if you expect to be able to install millions of apps.
Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months
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Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire
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Same here, haha, I think many people have done this. Nexus one was not available yet in my country so I purchased the Desire. Will definitely flash 2.2 on this baby though. No way i am going to wait for HTC anymore.
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Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months
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Months?? Seeing how things are going with the hero, I'd say they'll release it to the desire once the 2.3 is out. So better think of it as next year.
IMO Desire's owners are very important for HTC, since we are buying their flagship phones. I think they must keep us satisfied, if not, we will buy different phone next time. And I won't be happy if Nexus One owners will get 2.2 and we will not.
BTW isnt the evo 4g an Android 2.2 phone quz 2.1 didn't support 4g correct me if im wrong but if it is the update for the desire wont cost them so much time to port.
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I've recently read that the Evo 4G will be an 2.1 phone as well :/
450% FASTER?! HOLYY SHIITT!!! I cant waaiiit!!!
I feel I should w8 will it allow apps 2sd?
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Depends how long you're willing to wait
Froyo should include A2SD, but who knows when HTC comes up with the 2.2 upgrade for Desire.
this is true...however should b fairly quick its the flag ship Android mobile can't see another 4release in conjunction with 2.2 release
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I'm waiting ;-). Everything that I need the phone to do, it does... SO no real need to update as of yet. Will probably wait for official updates as I prefer official releases (possibly less bugs etc)
Moved to General Desire Forum.
Don't see where this hooks into Development or Rom cooking.
sorry thought it was ok here
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Isn't the whole point of 2.2(FroYo) that the Android segmentation is abolished and that we would be downloading Sense UI from the market.
If this is true we should all expect 2.2 the moment it is released as it will be a generic, basic Google ROM, then we would just have to wait for HTC to update Sense for 2.2 and we would be able to download that and off we go!
I am not sure if I am correct but this is the way I understood Android to be going.
i am actually, kinda scared of rooting im not 100% sure but seen somwhere a news bout release being sometime in the summer may-june think it was
I'm of those waiting... unless I can find a quick, simple and automated way of backing up and restoring everything about my current phone fast, it 'ain't happening until I see 2.2.
Many other reasons... including too many unknowns, unsubstantiated unclears, bricking not being an option for me in these months and so forth.
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Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we all know how slow they are with those!
That is the big deal. Android 2.2 will come maybe next month, but when HTC 'come' with their update, who knows...
rovex said:
Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we all know how slow they are with those!
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The big difference here is the existence of the Nexus One, which will get an update pretty much straight away.
Since the Desire is very close hardware wise to the Nexus One, I'd hope that it wouldn't take too long to "Sensify" 2.2 and get an update out to Desire users. Failing that, if you're rooted, they'll be cooked 2.2 Nexus ROMs out for the Desire in fairly short order.
Regards,
Dave
I was waiting, but ended up rooting tonight. I reckon SetCPU alone was worth rooting for.
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I was waiting, but ended up rooting tonight. I reckon SetCPU alone was worth rooting for.
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Actually, SetCPU will have no effect when running on rooted Desires.
When I pull the sliders across, it seems to have no effect, and the green max and min frequencies remain unchanged. HTC has a driver that they implement which keeps overriding SetCPU. We need to hope they (HTC) release the Kernel source. Once this happens, there will surely be a release of a modified Kernel with SetCPU support and overclocking/undervolting (assuming the CPUs in the Desire are binned the same way as the CPUs in the Nexus, this should yield a 10% overclock and better battery life).
Problem is HTC is really slow in releasing the source, it's borderline, illegal, and very irritating.
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Actually, SetCPU will have no effect when running on rooted Desires.
When I pull the sliders across, it seems to have no effect, and the green max and min frequencies remain unchanged. HTC has a driver that they implement which keeps overriding SetCPU.
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I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but my sliders seem to work fine. The widget display claims my speeds are scaling too, and my battery life seems remarkably improved, though that could be due to running the MCR. I don't know.
[EDIT] I see what you mean about the sliders now. Battery life still seems better though?
Ramedge said:
Isn't the whole point of 2.2(FroYo) that the Android segmentation is abolished and that we would be downloading Sense UI from the market.
If this is true we should all expect 2.2 the moment it is released as it will be a generic, basic Google ROM, then we would just have to wait for HTC to update Sense for 2.2 and we would be able to download that and off we go!
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I wouldn't have thought so. I wouldn't like to be Orange, dealing with thousands of customers who updated their phone (or had their phone automatically apply an update) and who've suddenly lost functionality/apps etc.
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I wouldn't have thought so. I wouldn't like to be Orange, dealing with thousands of customers who updated their phone (or had their phone automatically apply an update) and who've suddenly lost functionality/apps etc.
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See I thought this was the whole point of FroYo. We all get the basic Google Rom (maybe with a few service provider tweaks) then we download UI of our choice from the market.
Apart from service providers having to mess around with the Rom there's no reason why we should be waiting for months to get it. Most people in this thread seem to give the impression that we won't see 2.2 for ages while HTC upgrade Sense(I assume there's a few ex-hero users in here). This isn't true though, we'll be running 2.2 and waiting for a download of sense via the market. yeah?
Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we
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The big difference here is the existence of the Nexus One, which will get an update pretty much straight away.
Since the Desire is very close hardware wise to the Nexus One, I'd hope that it wouldn't take too long to "Sensify" 2.2 and get an update out to Desire users. Failing that, if you're rooted, they'll be cooked 2.2 Nexus ROMs out for the Desire in fairly short order.
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the only problem with this is... nexus one is updated by GOOGLE and the desire is not.... the nexus one will be the first to get 2.2 and from there im betting other devices wont see it till acouple months later...i bet the droid will see it before the desire...sense ui jus slows down the update process..
I can't wait until Froyo gets here!!!
ceas909 said:
the only problem with this is... nexus one is updated by GOOGLE and the desire is not.... the nexus one will be the first to get 2.2 and from there im betting other devices wont see it till acouple months later...i bet the droid will see it before the desire...sense ui jus slows down the update process..
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Can I ask why you think this? I reckon we'll get 2.2 the same time as the Nexus . If everything I've read about 2.2 is correct then Sense will just be released to the market when it's updated for us to download.
am I really wrong or the only person in this thread who understands what's going on with 2.2?
does anyone know if we getting 2.3 update for g2??
Yeah, it'll come for sure. But it'll be available in custom ROMs way before HTC get around to releasing it.
but it'll work same as the official 2.3 right?
Haha, stevieweeeeevie dude, your posting frequency is unreal every post I see a reply from you. Your like an xda cyborg... Lol
JD
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Ya, it'll be the same as official 2.3.
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Alright so we'll see it in a few weeks cheeee heeeeeee!
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Well, this phone has virgin android because it will be between the first phones getting gingerbread, so htc I think won't have anything to do here because we are running pure vanilla, not any htc sence crap
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JupiterDroid said:
Haha, stevieweeeeevie dude, your posting frequency is unreal every post I see a reply from you. Your like an xda cyborg... Lol
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What can I say, I've got too much time on my hands
Its a good thing though dude, its nice to know there are people dedicated to the cause
2.3 will come firstly as a port from the nexus, and then within 1-2 months we will see an updated G2 and sense rom, then at the end of 2020 we will see it drop on the SGS, lol lol ;P
And as soon as the gingerbread source code is released, Cy will get to work on CM7
JD
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Alright so we'll see it in a few weeks cheeee heeeeeee!
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Are you posing for a picture and are a bit nervous?
nooo im effing excited dude! lol
This is just a rumor, but Phandroid has a rumor that says 2.3 could be unvieled as early as today (12/6). I don't think it'll happen, but I have my fingers crossed.
I know Moto Droids running vanilla Android and the Nexus 1 always get updates first because they're running vanilla Android. We're running Vanilla Android, so maybe we'll get to be apart of the "hahahaha, we got it before you did, sucker Sense/Motoblur/Touchwiz users!" group?
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the Nexus 1 always get updates first
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That statement is absurd. The N1 has only had ONE UPDATE!!! At least only one MAJOR update... it shipped with 2.1, it is currently 2.2 (2.2.1 is minor, hardly counts.)
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That statement is absurd. The N1 has only had ONE UPDATE!!! At least only one MAJOR update... it shipped with 2.1, it is currently 2.2 (2.2.1 is minor, hardly counts.)
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That's only half of the statement, friend. The point I was trying to make was that the phones with vanilla android get the updates sooner than all the other UIs. Since we run vanilla android like the nexus 1 and the moto droids do, we should be getting 2.3 the same time they do which, historically, has been far sooner than everyone else.
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That statement is absurd. The N1 has only had ONE UPDATE!!! At least only one MAJOR update... it shipped with 2.1, it is currently 2.2 (2.2.1 is minor, hardly counts.)
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There have only been those 2 updates....
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G2 is not pure Google/Stock/Vanilla/Virgin whatever you want to call it.
While yes, the G2 is the closest thing to Vanilla FroYo available (aside from the Nexus Series of course, which is 100% stock), it isn't entirely pure. There is another thread pertaining to this, anyways the guesstimate is that we will get it a month or two after the Nexus S is released, which is December 16th in the United States.
BTW, I love my G2, I think it's the sickest phone available right now, but at the same time, it isn't fully stock. Read Cyanogen's blog about it.
It's going to take some time to get it just right for the G2. In any event, I can't wait!
I'm guessing Feb. 2011, although after having played with the SDK's Emulator a bit, there aren't any DRASTIC changes in Gingerbread, which means less dev. work, so who knows, maybe even sooner! Definitely after X-mas.
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While yes, the G2 is the closest thing to Vanilla FroYo available (aside from the Nexus Series of course, which is 100% stock), it isn't entirely pure. There is another thread pertaining to this, anyways the guesstimate is that we will get it a month or two after the Nexus S is released, which is December 16th in the United States.
BTW, I love my G2, I think it's the sickest phone available right now, but at the same time, it isn't fully stock. Read Cyanogen's blog about it.
It's going to take some time to get it just right for the G2. In any event, I can't wait!
I'm guessing Feb. 2011, although after having played with the SDK's Emulator a bit, there aren't any DRASTIC changes in Gingerbread, which means less dev. work, so who knows, maybe even sooner! Definitely after X-mas.
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Oh I know we're not running 100% Vanilla, but we are running it without a 3rd party UI put over top so I'm sure we'll get it much sooner than Sense, Motoblur and Touchwiz phones do.
I think it'll be sooner than February (my money is on a January release, as the Nexus S is being released with 2.3, so 2.3's release will be the day the S comes out). It shouldn't take that long to toss together 2.3-compatible versions of the apps that makes ours different from a 100% pure device. Of course, it's all up to Tmo in the end.
I'm waiting until 2.3 update before I root. I was waiting for CM 6 stable but with 2.3 just around the corner, it's worth waiting for. I'd like to see what it's like before I go rooting around in my phone. Pun squarely intended.
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That statement is absurd. The N1 has only had ONE UPDATE!!! At least only one MAJOR update... it shipped with 2.1, it is currently 2.2 (2.2.1 is minor, hardly counts.)
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What is the difference between 2.2 and 2.2.1? And why doesn't the G2 have 2.2.1?
I can't wait for 2.3 via CM7! The CM 6.1 stable is bad ass. I'm just ready for voip/sip that's built in. I changed my service plan when I heard that lol
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Oh I know we're not running 100% Vanilla, but we are running it without a 3rd party UI put over top so I'm sure we'll get it much sooner than Sense, Motoblur and Touchwiz phones do.
I think it'll be sooner than February (my money is on a January release, as the Nexus S is being released with 2.3, so 2.3's release will be the day the S comes out). It shouldn't take that long to toss together 2.3-compatible versions of the apps that makes ours different from a 100% pure device. Of course, it's all up to Tmo in the end.
I'm waiting until 2.3 update before I root. I was waiting for CM 6 stable but with 2.3 just around the corner, it's worth waiting for. I'd like to see what it's like before I go rooting around in my phone. Pun squarely intended.
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I hear you man. Agreed.
Latest info from twitter, if anyone was interested.
... then it means generic update comes even earlier ! tweet
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I'm not going to get my hopes up...
First they said late April - early May... then they changed it to mid May...
Now that mid May is here they prolonged it to late May...
I wonder what they'll say at the end of May... early June maybe...
No one ever keeps their word...
3 UK said they received the HTC Desire stock Gingerbread ROM back in March, this means HTC has the WWE ROM ready but they didn't released it until now, and who knows when they will... if ever. Not to mention the fact that the Desire will not receive the Sense 2.0/2.1 update together with the Gingerbread update. I mean, was that so hard, they had the time, and I'm completely sure that the Desire hardware supports it. But they just don't want to, it's all a marketing plan.
All the members of the Desire family should've got the Sense 2.1 update, but NO.
Now Google comes up saying they will somehow try to convince the phone manufacturers to update their devices in a timely manner, yeah right...
well.. agree with you.
the reason underlying why HTC hv not released gb for desire yet may be thinking of giving an advance to Desire-S, imo..
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well.. agree with you.
the reason underlying why HTC hv not released gb for desire yet may be thinking of giving an advance to Desire-S, imo..
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Luckily the devs here are at least as good as HTC
who needs official gingerbread whe you have almost perfect cooked roms..
snakeeyes21 said:
who needs official gingerbread whe you have almost perfect cooked roms..
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I agree, alot purer roms with less rubbish from networks
snakeeyes21 said:
who needs official gingerbread whe you have almost perfect cooked roms..
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it's just easier when stock ROM has everything you need...
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well.. agree with you.
the reason underlying why HTC hv not released gb for desire yet may be thinking of giving an advance to Desire-S, imo..
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or the bugs still present in the rom, eg compass being broken on gingerbread
Who actually cares about the compass in all honesty?? I don't think I've ever used it except in Google Maps - which works fine
Compass is broken on many different devices (but maybe not on all devices of the same type), anyway without compass navigating is pretty tedious
Not only compass, but also GPS drivers, 2 sec answer delay fix, maybe better graphics libs.
2 second delay is fixed in the Sense ROMs
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2 second delay is fixed in the Sense ROMs
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Good to hear -
I guess desire is on its way out as a "cutting edge" device. Still pretty sure we'll get most of the new features via custom ROMs (i'm running baadnewz's sense 2.1/3.0 rom and it has lots of the "new" sense already...), but there's no point waiting for your carrier to release updates for a phone thats been in the market for well over a year. I'm with telstra (australia) and i rooted and got froyo running a good two months before telstra released it.
Reply's I had from 3uk,
End of May with sense 2.1. Fingers crossed.
tinky1 said:
Reply's I had from 3uk,
End of May with sense 2.1. Fingers crossed.
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I think its a 'believe it when we see it' kind of thing though
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I think its a 'believe it when we see it' kind of thing though
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Same here, hence crossed fingers.
From 3uk blog
Moderator: Johanna on April 20, 2011
We’ve been told by HTC that the Desire HD and Desire will have Sense 2.1 and not 3.0, but the Sensation will have Sense 3.0.
maybe that's the reason it's late again - that they've decided to include sense 2.1 in it
To be honest, I can't see them putting sense 2.1 on desire, space is to precious, unless they implement some sort of a2sd+
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Does any one think we'll see it? I don't think we will.
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If/when the update comes, I'm sure it'll just be sense 1.0. I seriously doubt HTC or Verizon are interested in giving us extra features on a 1.5 year old device, they'd much rather we upgrade.
Not to mention, the leaked GB update was sense 1.0, which I'm assuming would be a decent indication of what we'll see.
it is possible that we could see 2.1 with elements of 3.0 but it is not likely most likely it will be 1.0.
I would be expecting something a lot like a Z rom personally.
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I would be expecting something a lot like a Z rom personally.
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After all the excitement over in the Thunderbolt forum, you had to come see us huh? Ha ha
Very unlikely. The Desire guys over in the UK are getting a dumbed down version of sense 1.0. If we even get Gingersense, we'll get 1.0 most likely.
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Very unlikely. The Desire guys over in the UK are getting a dumbed down version of sense 1.0. If we even get Gingersense, we'll get 1.0 most likely.
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Yeah but the Desire has a lot less storage than the Incredible. That is why they got a "dumbed" down version of sense right? It's still very unlikely though since the Evo didn't get a newer version of sense.
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I don't think we'll get gingerbread, but anyways. I don't think it will have sense 2.1 (if we get an update to sense, that's what we'd get) Mainly because they just aren't gonna bother with that. It's a rather old device, and a lot of the people who bought it are now already or coming up for an upgrade. The problem isn't our phone can't handle it. our phone can handle sense 3.0 well. But don't even think about getting that. The sense 2.1 roms are considered the lower sense roms that perform so well, it would actually probably overall perform better. Hell for an example, they put 2.1 on the wildfire s, go look at it's specs and tell me our phone couldn't run it stock. I'm just saying, we won't get it, even though we easily could.
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I think we'll get gingerbread just not an upgrade to sense. Even though, like you said, our device could easily run it.
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I couldn't care less if it was 1.0 as long as its something Gingy. Gives me something to do. Not to brag but it would be nice if we could atleast get something close to how my Rom is. Or newts 2.1.
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Why would they? Then you have no reason to upgrade your phone. Root you phone and do it yourself, there are plenty of good/stable sense 3.0 GB roms available
I was waiting too thinking it was coming out soon.
Got sick of waiting and rooted, now I know rooting was a damn good choice. Have alot of options.
UnrEVOked.
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Even if we only get Sense 1.0, the kernel from HTC will give the devs something to work with.
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as i said in the last thread, we, will not be seeing GB on the dinc any time soon, the phone was EOL'd in march, and if they give us that then we have no official reason to upgrade. Verizon, as a buisiness, does this to get people to buy newer phones, they tried it with the continuum, however that got froyo thanks to inmuts down in legacy playing around with the fascinate kernal.
i am on buisiness gingersense 3.0, not a very big fan of 3.0, but i LOOOVE the 3.0 lockscreen. (i can turn on the phone and get right to making a quick phonecall or snapping a pic if i need too)
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as i said in the last thread, we, will not be seeing GB on the dinc any time soon
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I don't know where you're getting this from. I'm not saying otherwise, I'm just saying that unless you're on HTC's dev team or have some inside knowledge on Verizon's update schedule, it's all speculation.
I really couldn't care less. I'm fine running roms, and it's nice to change it up every once in a while. My upgrade isn't till June anyway(February with early upgrade)
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I really couldn't care less. I'm fine running roms, and it's nice to change it up every once in a while. My upgrade isn't till June anyway(February with early upgrade)
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It's nice for dev's to work on the official updates rather than leaks/ports, though.
True, although I use the gingersense leak for my roms and it is smooth as butter.
I doubt we see anything more than 1.0, but its not really an issue with all the ports out now. Would be curious to see if a dev can take the update and load 2.1/3.0 items into it though.