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Okay guys, I just wanted to make sure I got this crystal clear before I take the plunge into the dark side.
So in order to root a stock EVO with new OTA update applied, All I have to do is follow Toast's step 1 & 2 to root and nand unlock and then applied Caulkin's new rooted update on dev site? Please help me out, this is my first time rooting anything and I would hate to brick my phone on my first try.. thank you so much in advance
I'm not entirely sure, but can you even root with today's OTA update applied? I know the first OTA update (on release day) you could still root, but I don't know about today's update allowing root or not. I know if you are rooted and apply today's update that it will break root.
Of all the days to decide to root, the day of an update after applying it isn't exactly the best of ideas.
yeah you can root the OTA update taht came out today caulkin did it pretty fast i might say too lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
jfizz88 said:
yeah you can root the OTA update taht came out today caulkin did it pretty fast i might say too lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
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Ummm, I'm thinking that the OP meant 'hey if I installed the new update today on a stock EVO can I root?' and the answer is NO.
I have a few questions
1. Is it best to wait for a ROM with the OTA built in? or do we flash a zip file not re-doing the ROM?
2. If we flash the zip instead of waiting for a ROM.....will these changes stay permanent? For example, if we flash a new ROM in the future, will it undo the OTA stuff?
Thank you
Ok, I'm probably going to get flamed for this but...
I've been keeping up with the thread joeykrim started about how to gain root with the new v1.47.651.1 update. Then I saw the newest thread where they've been able to do it. Yet I've seen a bunch of v1.47.651.1 rooted downloads in the dev subthread, and a week ago or so, I had downloaded the rooted deodexed 1.47 rom, with the new radio, with the plan to flash it over. I was hesitant because I knew people were having problems with the new update. So for now I have Fresh's rom (which btw is awesome).
So I've finally put 2 and 2 together, and this is what I've discovered... Is the new update ITSELF, just the actual FILE, able to be rooted? aka, the update was downloaded to a computer, hacked, and then able to be flashed to a phone with no problems? And that would mean the only problems are for people who applied the OTA update or bought a new evo that already had the 1.47 update, correct?
sorry to be an idiot!
Correct .
Well, wait.lol the Rom you downloaded is basically an stock Rom with update, an entire image that will replace what you have. It is just rooted already.
But you are correct that it is only people who took the ota update or bought a new phone and the salesperson did the upgrade who must use the new method to root.
At least you posted in the right forum so you better not get flamed lol
elegantai said:
Correct .
Well, wait.lol the Rom you downloaded is basically an stock Rom with update, an entire image that will replace what you have. It is just rooted already.
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ok, thanks!
yeah I just have the stock rooted 1.47 rom. I think I'll wait until some dev's get their hands on it and see what they release, before i flash it.
I am running my own variation of the deodex 1.47 that calkuin (sorry for the spelling if its wrong.) So its good to go. But I think there are a few that already have it incorporated such as damage control.
i think i also have that caulkin 1.47 version. do you like it? what kind of things do you like about it over the 1.32.651.6 version?
I just used it as a starting point for my Rom. I just wanted the update so i can actually logon to my WiFi router. The image you have is the stock image, so it still has all the Sprint apps on it and stuff.
With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
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thanks.
derik123derik123 said:
With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
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thanks.
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Wow that's some big new. I'm sure all the devs would love to get a copy of it. I will for sure get it for my wife's evo.
I'm using Fresh 0.5.3 and want to know if I can just update to Froyo. I don't care about losing root since I know it will eventually be rooted again. Will I be able to update over my existing ROM. I don't care about having to reinstall my apps.
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Relevant to me as well. Running rooted stock rom for the Evo. Still haven't done any of the OTA updates. So if I do all of the OTA updates I missed to get to the 2.2 update, what will happen? Just remove root?
derik123derik123 said:
With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
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thanks.
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If you want to maintin root just wait for the developers to incorporate the update into their ROM's same as with the last OTA Update. Also, no one said it will definitely "break" root. Just a good possibility. So be on the safe side if you don't want to loose root... "be patient".
derik123derik123 said:
With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
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thanks.
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Okay, well how about answering my questions first
I'll update as soon as it hits, Use it until I get home, clear the storage, do a nandroid backup then runs that through a kitchen and flash it back to the phone.
Not terribly clean but effective. If it works. Probably won't since I'm sure the update will wipe the recovery.
So, I guess I'll wait for fresh evo to be updated.
derik123derik123 said:
With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
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thanks.
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A dev will release a version of 2.2 that has the *$#& that messes up root access pulled out and superuser patched in. Likely this will be down within hours of release, at the very least a couple of days.
All you'll need to do when the rooted version of Froyo is out is to wipe and flash. Just make sure you don't flash the un-rooted stock version that is likely to be floating around.
I frankly don't see anything near good enough (from the leaks) for me to lose everything I get from CM6. I'm sure after a few days, CM6 and the other great roms out there will be updated with the good parts of the update. Until then, no updates for me!
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I frankly don't see anything near good enough (from the leaks) for me to lose everything I get from CM6. I'm sure after a few days, CM6 and the other great roms out there will be updated with the good parts of the update. Until then, no updates for me!
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Well I'm running cm6 latest nightly. I'll probably do the fresh then when cm6 is updated I'll go there
A cleaned out Froyo much like DC 3.2.3 will be better than CM6.
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A cleaned out Froyo much like DC 3.2.3 will be better than CM6.
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maybe it will, maybe it won't. Either way, I can wait until a rooted version is ready to try it.
I have a rooted HTC evo I still haven't gotten the update do I have to unroot to be able to download 2.2(froyo). I just want the update what do I have to do?
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A9AI5RM9
Thats the RUU, apply this update and you'll be completely stock 2.2
what do you mean apply I've downloaded this before I can't find the file to download and when I try to open it it says it doesn't have a program to open.
If you are rooted Most Roms will not allow an OTA to come through.
you have options the option listed above will unroot you and install 2.2.
the other option is to go to the dev forum and download a 2.2 custom rom or the rooted 2.2 stock rom. flash those and you are good to go.
I will remind that currently there is no way to root 2.2 so if you choose to go through the RUU and go to stock rom that way you will NOT be able to root at this time. It could also be WEEKS before a root method is found. I dont know why anyone would want to or would suggest doing this unless you plan to take it in to sprint for repair.
How do I apply the first file?
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I have a rooted HTC evo I still haven't gotten the update do I have to unroot to be able to download 2.2(froyo). I just want the update what do I have to do?
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No you do not need to unroot. If you accept that ota update it will take away your root because the rom it puts in isn't rooted. I happened to download and try out froyo 2.2 like 3 days ago to see how it functions. It works very well however the update killed my hotspot completely. I ended up restoring back from Froyo 2.2. I will give a link that will take you to the downloads to do it where the rom comes rooted, and the radio and wimax drivers are there as well. Here it is.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740520 One thing to remember is this is not the absolute final build that is pushed out on the OTA update that they have done today. So my guess is very very soon if not already there will be a posted and rooted version of the final build. I am unsure and I am almost positive nothing is every final, but I don't know if you will be able to re-root your evo if you just accept the update from Sprint. If you no longer want a rooted phone and all you care about is getting the update, then you can or will have gotten the request today from sprint as I did or you can look for the update manually in system updates, from settings at the home page. Hope that helps and take care.
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How do I apply the first file?
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I strongly suggest you do not just get stock 2.2 because you have no idea if you will ever root again. Unless your taking it into sprint it makes no sense. I really do not want to attempt to get you that file because its a massive mistake. The download does work though i already tried it that much i can say. See if someone else will actually tell you what you need to do because i'm not sure i can bring myself to do it sorry. I am slightly unsure how you ended up rooting your phone if you are having trouble with a download that has an executable file as in you click on it and it runs If you however need help downloading or flashing or whatever the other stuff that i linked that i will definately try to assist you with. If you flash a stock rom you can and will get the message to update the system and you can manually look for it too. The roms have that disabled so people can't due to ignorance, apply the update then say, "Oh crap I am not rooted how do I fix it?", which we will see a lot of today.
So i'm confused about this whole thing with ROMs and firmware and the Viper One 3.0.0 that was just released.
I've been playing it safe with ROMs, being outdated regularly because "it worked". Probably not the best choice for security reasons, but wiping my phone and reinstalling the OS, restoring all the apps, is time consuming and something I try to avoid doing as much as possible.
So Saturday I upgraded my phone from 1.9.1 of Viper One M9 to 2.3.0, then took the OTA to 2.3.1. Previously I installed 1.9.1 and a week later 2.0.0 came out. So I waited until this weekend to finally go to 2.x.x. In a mean twist of fate, less than 24 hours later I'd find that Viper One M9 3.0.0 is out. So no matter what I try to do it seems I'm in for perpetual upgrades, wiping and reinstalling the OS, restoring apps, etc.
So here's my questions:
1. Do I actually need to install any firmwares for this? I see dottat's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9/general/official-ruu-1-33-605-15-t3137397 and I'm not sure if I'm supposed to install that first. My instinct is "no" but I would like to verify that before I try to go to 3.0.0.
2. If it's not required, is it at least optional? If so, what benefits are we aware of that the new firmware will fix? I get the impression that the firmware update isn't truly supported with Viper One M9 since the firmware hasn't been officially released, nor was it unofficially released before the compiled 3.0.0 build was released.
3. How "official" is the 1.33.605.15 that I just linked above? Is it 100% for sure going to be the next release and we're just waiting for it to be pushed out as an OTA update? When I had my Droid Bionic we had something like 20+ "unofficial" builds of ICS that were leaked early, and ultimately the one that was released OTA was 3 or 4 versions behind what was the 'latest'. Definitely created problems for some people and not looking to see that happen to me.
4. When I do an upgrade of Viper One, I normally do the full wipe and then have to restore the apps with titanium backup, then the SMS messages that I have with another app, resetup the icons on my screens, resetup the viper settings, etc. Takes me basically a full day to re-test and re-setup everything how I like it. Is there a better way that doesn't take all day? I'd prefer to be on the latest, but with the constant restoring I'm pretty much always behind because I don't have the 8+ hours it takes to resetup my phone exactly how I want it every time an update comes out. I've heard the non-wiping is not recommended, so I've never tried that. Is it actually safe and effective?
5. Anyone using 3.0.0 and having any problems or comments?
In case anyone asks, the phone is s-off, rooted, etc by the mighty dottat with his Java card.
Thanks,
-Josh
Joshy8 said:
So i'm confused about this whole thing with ROMs and firmware and the Viper One 3.0.0 that was just released.
I've been playing it safe with ROMs, being outdated regularly because "it worked". Probably not the best choice for security reasons, but wiping my phone and reinstalling the OS, restoring all the apps, is time consuming and something I try to avoid doing as much as possible.
So Saturday I upgraded my phone from 1.9.1 of Viper One M9 to 2.3.0, then took the OTA to 2.3.1. Previously I installed 1.9.1 and a week later 2.0.0 came out. So I waited until this weekend to finally go to 2.x.x. In a mean twist of fate, less than 24 hours later I'd find that Viper One M9 3.0.0 is out. So no matter what I try to do it seems I'm in for perpetual upgrades, wiping and reinstalling the OS, restoring apps, etc. [emoji14]
So here's my questions:
1. Do I actually need to install any firmwares for this? I see dottat's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9/general/official-ruu-1-33-605-15-t3137397 and I'm not sure if I'm supposed to install that first. My instinct is "no" but I would like to verify that before I try to go to 3.0.0.
2. If it's not required, is it at least optional? If so, what benefits are we aware of that the new firmware will fix? I get the impression that the firmware update isn't truly supported with Viper One M9 since the firmware hasn't been officially released, nor was it unofficially released before the compiled 3.0.0 build was released.
3. How "official" is the 1.33.605.15 that I just linked above? Is it 100% for sure going to be the next release and we're just waiting for it to be pushed out as an OTA update? When I had my Droid Bionic we had something like 20+ "unofficial" builds of ICS that were leaked early, and ultimately the one that was released OTA was 3 or 4 versions behind what was the 'latest'. Definitely created problems for some people and not looking to see that happen to me.
4. When I do an upgrade of Viper One, I normally do the full wipe and then have to restore the apps with titanium backup, then the SMS messages that I have with another app, resetup the icons on my screens, resetup the viper settings, etc. Takes me basically a full day to re-test and re-setup everything how I like it. Is there a better way that doesn't take all day? I'd prefer to be on the latest, but with the constant restoring I'm pretty much always behind because I don't have the 8+ hours it takes to resetup my phone exactly how I want it every time an update comes out. I've heard the non-wiping is not recommended, so I've never tried that. Is it actually safe and effective?
5. Anyone using 3.0.0 and having any problems or comments?
In case anyone asks, the phone is s-off, rooted, etc by the mighty dottat with his Java card.
Thanks,
-Josh
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There's newer firmware out. Look in neo's 5.1 deodex thread. That os is also 5.1 (rom).
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LOL! So it is! I saw it last night and somehow I screwed up and linked to your thread. Hooray for tired long days.
1. You do need to update your firmware to 2.6.605.10 before installing ViperOneM9 3.0.0, or you will most likely see a bootloop or have other issues.
2. ViperOneM9 3.0.0 was based on the 2.6.605.10 firmware that is posted in NEO's thread. Bottom line is that you should be on that firmware before flashing viper.
3. The 2.6.605.10 firmware is official, but prerelease, and it is very likely not the final version that will be released when the FOTA is pushed out to the public. You can just flash the firmware of the final release version when that is released, so you don't need to worry about being ahead/behind the release version.
4. On ViperOneM9, there is no reason to do a full wipe unless you are coming from another ROM. If you read the thread, you will see that the developers and most of the people around there haven't done a clean flash since their first flash of viper. Make a backup before flashing, and you can always revert to that if you have an issue when you dirty flash.
5. 3.0.0 is working great. No reason not to update.
Thanks for the response bschram. It is appreciated.
I actually wiped my phone and installed 3.0.0 without updating the firmware. Phone still works fine, but I will be updating the firmware as soon as I am confident I know what I'm doing with firmware upgrades. I'm a bit more nervous about updating firmware as I don't want to break the phone.
I'm glad to hear that I don't have to do a full wipe, and I'll definitely be doing that going forward. I will say that 3.0.0 is way more reliable than 1.9.1 was.
Just to make sure I am doing things correctly.... I am not totally new to this. Coming from stock 5.0.2... with S-off/Bootloader Unlocked. Flash firmware from NEO's deodexed rom in fastboot, advanced wipe in TWRP, then flash any 5.1 rom that is compatible IC, Viper, ect.... Then we should be good to go?
Then when offical OTA arrives, wait until firmware is pulled then flash the same way? Just making sure I will doing things right..... Thanks in advance
bschram said:
1. You do need to update your firmware to 2.6.605.10 before installing ViperOneM9 3.0.0, or you will most likely see a bootloop or have other issues.
2. ViperOneM9 3.0.0 was based on the 2.6.605.10 firmware that is posted in NEO's thread. Bottom line is that you should be on that firmware before flashing viper.
3. The 2.6.605.10 firmware is official, but prerelease, and it is very likely not the final version that will be released when the FOTA is pushed out to the public. You can just flash the firmware of the final release version when that is released, so you don't need to worry about being ahead/behind the release version.
4. On ViperOneM9, there is no reason to do a full wipe unless you are coming from another ROM. If you read the thread, you will see that the developers and most of the people around there haven't done a clean flash since their first flash of viper. Make a backup before flashing, and you can always revert to that if you have an issue when you dirty flash.
5. 3.0.0 is working great. No reason not to update.
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Came in a bit late to the m9 threads. Is the losing VOLTE thing still a thing or was that earlier builds and firmwares? My phone is attached to my work account so it's big pain to talk with actual verizon and i've been hesitant on flashing roms. Not asking for gaurantees, i get the risk, just wondering if that is still going on.
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Came in a bit late to the m9 threads. Is the losing VOLTE thing still a thing or was that earlier builds and firmwares? My phone is attached to my work account so it's big pain to talk with actual verizon and i've been hesitant on flashing roms. Not asking for gaurantees, i get the risk, just wondering if that is still going on.
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It's never been 100% understood why this has happened. It isn't specific to any ROM, I think someone on stock rooted ROM had this issue happen. Once you S-OFF you will be at risk, as far I am aware.
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It's never been 100% understood why this has happened. It isn't specific to any ROM, I think someone on stock rooted ROM had this issue happen. Once you S-OFF you will be at risk, as far I am aware.
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Is it a common thing or has it only happened to one or two people.
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Is it a common thing or has it only happened to one or two people.
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Thiss I am not too sure of, but I don't think too many.
Tommydorns said:
Is it a common thing or has it only happened to one or two people.
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Me and one or two others. I have my suspicions as to what caused it and the casual crack rom flasher likely won't fall victim to it.
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