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Hey,
I have Verizon and currently have a XV6800 (Titan). I have loved the phone, I got it the first week it came out and it has never let me down. I flashed it when the ROMs first came available, and I use all the features the phone has: keyboard, touchscreen, bluetooth, GPS, Wifi, etc...
My contract expires on the 11th of this month, and I've been due for a phone upgrade for quite some time now. I can get the TP2 for $99 with no other fees, because I work for Goodyear and we have a corporate thing set up with them.
My question is: should I get the TP2? It's obvious that there's a lot of custom ROMs out there and the hardware looks great. I just don't want to buy this phone and another one come out a month from now that's better. I understand that phones are always being released and they become outdated weeks after their purchase, but I don't want to miss out on anything cool.
-Randy
If you love your Titan that much, I don't know what's stopping you from upgrading to the TP2. It's the Titan on steroids with a gorgeous 800 X 480 screen. The keyboard is much improved as well (I had that keyboard with the grid layout on my Mogul, and I barely used it). In fact, the soft keyboard even much improved and usable. Battery life is also improved.
The only real drawback from the Titan is the lack of a DPad (VolDPad does a pretty good job of turning the volume rocker keys into a DPad).
BTW, video playback on the TP2 is outstanding (TP2 does full DVD resolutions). Totally kicks ass over the iPod.
There will always be something better/newer coming down the road. Could be a month... could be 6... couid be 12 months. I don't think we'll be getting really new in the short term.
The TP2 is far and away the best WM phones I ever handled. I ver glad I moved to it from my Kaiser. Heck I'm glad I skipped the original TouchPro and waited for the TP2.
The HD2/Leo looks nice but not being able to use a stylus and lack of a keyboard just might keep me away. I like writing hand written notes in my note pad.
The other thing too is that the Touch Pro 2 just came out, so it should be quite a while until it is surpassed (but 3 months ago if you were to ask to buy a Touch Pro, I'd easily tell you to wait b/c of the Touch Pro 2...that and Verizon nubbed up the TP1 with locking the GPS and removing RAM). I'd say go for it!
Jason
Thanks for the good info.
Does this phone have a dedicated graphics accelerator?
I went from an XV6800 (titan) to a Tilt2 on AT&T...
Network sucking issues aside, the TouchPro2 is a GREAT phone and an amazing upgrade the the Titan.
I stayed away from the original TouchPro/Fuze phones because I didnt think they were a massive upgrade, only more RAM which helped run TF3D, but no WinMo6.5, and not much in terms of real improvement.
I love WinMo6.5, I love the TF3D 2.1, and the ram and speed of the new Tilt2 is noticeably faster than a Titan.
Oh, and did I mention the AMAZING screen improvement?
Upgrade. You wont be disappointed.
I was on a mogul, which then i went to the touch pro, and now I'm on the touch pro 2. The single biggest upgrade from the mogul, to the touch pro was the ram. Running Opera Mobile on the mogul was hell. It's a great browser on the touch pro although i preferred the speed of opera mini. The other big improvement was the resolution/ lack of recession on the screen. Notice how it's rather difficult to hit the task manager button on the top right of the screen? That was fixed in the touch pro.
The biggest improvements from the touch pro to the touch pro 2, for me, have been the increased screen size and the keyboard. The Keyboard is ****ing amazing. No more of those little bubble keys that were present in the mogul/touch pro. I still haven't heard anyone talk about the change from bubble keys, to actual keys that depress when you press down on them. Sure the offsetness and size of the keys is great, but the fact that they are actual buttons that depress when pressed sold me. The speaker phone is much nicer as well.
Don't forget that you also will get all the latest TF3D stuff as well until a new dominant resolution comes out (or we simply can't run it because of lack of clock speed). I'm currently running TF3D 2.5 and it adds loads of improvements over TF3D 2.1. The only problem currently with 2.5 is that it's sluggish in some areas such as the landscape transitions on music/pictures.
All in all I'd say hell ****ing yes to a mogul-to-pro2 upgrade. There was a big enough difference to ditch the mogul for the touch pro alone. Ram was always the biggest pain on the mogul, and now I can't find myself ever running out of ram even while leaving everything open. I don't have to fight with the device to have it do what I want it to do.
See.... I get all these good reviews from you guys here, and you're all saying "Go for it!" Then, I go in the Verizon store too look at it, and they don't have it. I guess none of the stores have them on display, and I have to have it shipped. On top of that, the sales guy convinced me to come in Friday morning to see the new Motorola Droid when it's released. They're gonna be the same price.... so I don't know what to get now...
No Vzn stores ever got the new phone. Yea the Droid looks like it can be quite nice, but at my heart I'm still a WM user at least for now (Android is probably my 2nd bet, then maybe WebOS, and the OSX mobile isn't an option for me).
If you want to play with one, go to a T-Mo or AT&T Store. My sprint store near me (and its a big one, with a repair center and everything) still doesn't have TP2's yet either :-/
Jason
myrandex said:
No Vzn stores ever got the new phone. Yea the Droid looks like it can be quite nice, but at my heart I'm still a WM user at least for now (Android is probably my 2nd bet, then maybe WebOS, and the OSX mobile isn't an option for me).
If you want to play with one, go to a T-Mo or AT&T Store. My sprint store near me (and its a big one, with a repair center and everything) still doesn't have TP2's yet either :-/
Jason
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You know what... I'm ordering the TP2. Windows Mobile isn't perfect, but there's a huge community on here for it, and Android is new and still isn't quite perfect.
It's just like running any distro of linux on your computer. Sure, there's a lot of great versions out there, but none of them are perfect, and when something screws up, there's not always an easy fix.
One more thing about the TP2:
If you want to run emus, the offset keyboard gives you a reasonable rendition of a Dpad. Diagonals won't work, but it's more than adequate for JRPGs or any game that doesn't require twitch action.
I use W,A,S,D as a Dpad.
just wanted to update everyone who gave me their input - I got the TP2 and I'm in love with it. There's nothing I've tried to do thus far that I haven't been able to do. I've tried a few ROMs on it and I'm on the latest MightyROM right now ad it's great. Thanks again for the input guys!
My contract is up for Tmobile so I decided to give up my BB Pearl (Never did like that thing). I went out and upgraded to the Touch Pro 2, but after reading the specs on the HD 2, I'm not sure if I want to keep it or wait for the newer model. (They give you 14 days to decide if you like it).
I like the TP 2 especially with the keyboard but the Nexus One has the animated desktop which is nice. I would like some opinions on which phone you would choose and possibly why. My guess is the HD will probably be about the same price as the others.
I went from a Dash 3G last weekend to a TP2. as soon as I heard about the $199 pricing for the HD2 I decided to return my TP2 and wait for the HD2. I never thought I would make much use of a touch screen, but now I am hooked. The HD2 is faster and larger. No brainer for me.
i've got a sprint tp2 and plan on getting the tmo hd2 and getting rid of my bb.
I would go for Rhodium for sure, as the others do not have hardware keyboard
But if they were the only options on the market definitely I would go for Leo as it has WM!
Remember all the flashy things will become trivial pretty soon, so what you should ask yourself is which properties are the most useful to you.
Myself, I can't live without the hardware keyboard. Sure, I wish the TP2 had the speed of the HD2, but for me the keyboard beats that. If you can do without, there is no reason to get the TP2 at all. As for Nexus vs HD2 - personally I'd take the HD2.
I have had the Touch, Touch Pro, and Touch Pro2 that my wife and I have used. I am waiting for the Touch HD3.
I love the TP2 for its keyboard and the HD2 for its screen
I possess both: the TP2 and HD2.
I like the keyboard of the TP2. I like the screen of the HD2 and its superb Sense user interface.
I transformed my TP2 with an official ROM update to WM6.5 and the tweaks (especially Co0kie hometab) I used for my HD2 to a HD2 Mini with WVGA.
Now I have the best of both on the TP2. By the way the TP2 is very responsive and speedy despite its slower processor.
For an average business user I prefer my TP2, only voice dialing using Cyberon Speed Dialer can not be activated by the call key on my BT carkit due deviating BT stack implementation by HTC
While I like TP2 (due to keyboard, and price), unfortunately it's not completely future-proof (no WM7).
Although there is still hope in Android port..
Just love my TP2 with a hardware keyboard..... sure wish it had the big screen, speed and memory of the HD2 lol
no wimm7 for hd2 as well (at least today sometimes they say yup and other times no) but hmmmm right now I am not sure hd2= 1ghz processor big screen lots of memory but touch pro 2 good size screen and a keyboard
My work is going to provide me with a new phone (new contract) Right now I have the Wing. I'm looking at either the HD2 or the TP2.
I need some input please. Some things to consider when you read this thread.
1) I don't find myself using the hard keyboard on my Wing
2) I do use the hands free speaker phone often.
3) I need WMO for a certain app that requires 16megs free ram (cooked ROM on my Wing helped here.)
4) Will the HD2 require a change in my data plan with T-Mobile?
Just some "if I was you" advise.
Thanks
Get the HD2. The only advantage the TP2 has is the keyboard and if you don't use it then there is no competition. The processor used in the TP2 is the biggest pile of crap ever.
Basically, it goes like this: If you want Windows Mobile 6.x, the best hardware keyboard of any mobile device on the market, and don't care about device speed, stay with the Rhodium. If you don't want/need a keyboard, want Windows Mobile 6.x, and you don't care about not getting a Windows Mobile 7 upgrade, get the HD2. If you don't need a keyboard and want the best Android device on the market, get the Nexus.
The Rhodium is a great device in terms of external looks, but as petard has already said, the Qualcomm MSM7xxx processor inside is quite possibly the sh*ttiest mobile processor on the market. If I were to buy a new device right now, I would certainly buy the HD2 or Nexus, NOT the Rhodium.
I've got 2 of the 3, and I'm using a Rhodium with 6.5.x and Titanium as my everyday phone. The Nexus One is on my night stand.
With the Rhodium, if you keep messaging, contacts, and calendar resident in memory and use arcsoft client, the phone is lightning quick and I have zero delays or lockups. Coupled with the keyboard, its the best all around solution.
The N1 has great google software, and as my sig says, the Navigation stuff is better than a Nuvi, IMO, and I'll probably start transitioning over to android until WinMo7, especially if swype becomes officially available (it may already be). There are also a couple apps I've found that could actually make it past the initial novelty stage of "wow thats cool" and be everyday apps.. which if you check the average lifespan of these iphone & android apps theyre so proud of, after about a week and half of saying to your buddies "hey check this out", people quit using them all together yet are still out their $1, but i digress..
Thanks for the input so far. Good stuff.
I know this isn't the the HD2 forum but it's still on topic.
What about the voice/speaker quality on the HD2? I haven't read good things on that. Is it really a problem?
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I've got 2 of the 3, and I'm using a Rhodium with 6.5.x and Titanium as my everyday phone. The Nexus One is on my night stand.
With the Rhodium, if you keep messaging, contacts, and calendar resident in memory and use arcsoft client, the phone is lightning quick and I have zero delays or lockups. Coupled with the keyboard, its the best all around solution.
The N1 has great google software, and as my sig says, the Navigation stuff is better than a Nuvi, IMO, and I'll probably start transitioning over to android until WinMo7, especially if swype becomes officially available (it may already be). There are also a couple apps I've found that could actually make it past the initial novelty stage of "wow thats cool" and be everyday apps.. which if you check the average lifespan of these iphone & android apps theyre so proud of, after about a week and half of saying to your buddies "hey check this out", people quit using them all together yet are still out their $1, but i digress..
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I'm sorry but nothing about the Rhodium is lightning quick, nothing. I use the builtin WM messaging client and Arcsoft MMS and once I get over a couple messages per thread it takes about 5 seconds from clicking the thread to where I can type. This is due to both the crappy WM messaging client based on the IE rendering engine and the garbage processor.
I use vito SMS-chat for text messaging and once it is loaded up it has some decent speed but it takes about 5 seconds to load the program which is why I leave it running in the background as much as I can. The program is really ugly though.
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I'm sorry but nothing about the Rhodium is lightning quick, nothing. I use the builtin WM messaging client and Arcsoft MMS and once I get over a couple messages per thread it takes about 5 seconds from clicking the thread to where I can type. This is due to both the crappy WM messaging client based on the IE rendering engine and the garbage processor.
I use vito SMS-chat for text messaging and once it is loaded up it has some decent speed but it takes about 5 seconds to load the program which is why I leave it running in the background as much as I can. The program is really ugly though.
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I'll give vito a shot..
check out "S.V.I keyskin" in the TP2 themes/apps section, its also helped my phone feel snappier by decreasing the load time for the SIP
I currently have the HD2, and whilst it's a great phone it's starting to annoy me with how many glitches there are, and how many times it crashes and I have to reset it. I have all the cabs running to prevent this such as memmaid, but it does drive me mad sometimes. The other thing is the lack of apps, having come from the iphone. The 2 things I absolutely love about the HD2 though is the gorgeous home screen (the reason I haven't even looked at windows 7 for it, sad but true) and the size of the screen.
What I would like to know is if you can get the home screen of the Desire to look as stunning as the HD2, what features does the desire have over the HD2, and how good the apps are on android phones? Can you get similar apps to that of the iphone like yell.com, ebay apps etc as well as games? Would I miss the larger screen?
I'm toying between the desire, and waiting to see what the iphone 4g is like when it is released, but they would have to make a lot of improvements on the iphone for me to consider it. I would very much be interested in the Sprint HTC Evo 4G but it appears as though it won't be available in the UK
I come from hd2, now im very happy with desire, all its working as desired and no cabs needed
I was happy HD2 owner. Switched to Desire. I see it this way:
HD2:
- unstable, after 8 years of developing WM (thx microsoft).
- manufacturers mistake causes most devices to develop a "ligter spots" on the screen due the digitizer is coliding with actual display.
- Soft plastic body it deforms on impact.
- laggy touch imput
-+ Is big with BIG screen
+ ActiveSync - working with no problem !
+ multitasking - multitasking - multitasking - multitasking
+ very easily customizable (WM)
+ independent on internet connection (WM)
+ most needet tools alredy integrated in stock rom (file explorer,task manager etc.) = fully usable out of the box.
Desire:
- 5mpix camera makes worse photos then HD2. its like 70% of HD2´s quality.
- only one diode.
- unusable withou internet connection (you wont be able to install anything without downloading at least some file explorer)
- battery compartment doors are stupid and they will be damaged when sim card is exchanged oftenly.
- faulty detection of headphones!!! most regular headphones will work bud no Reproductors !!! Any active HW on jack will cause Desire to act mad. Its TRS and TRRS detection problem (desire exlusive Iam afraid)
- Complicated synchronization (50% cases just wont sync), waiting for official HTC android 2.2
+ Speed of OS
+ stability is better then WM bus Iphone OS is still most stable.
+ Android OS (it is still new and under development, bud already lightyears ahead in front of WM)
+ Google Market lots of apps in one place.
+
snerkler said:
I would very much be interested in the Sprint HTC Evo 4G but it appears as though it won't be available in the UK
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It would be rather pointless if it was, since it is a CDMA/WiMAX device and there are no networks in the UK that support either of these for telephony (though I believe there are some small WiMAX networks for local wireless broadband in places).
Regards,
Dave
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+ multitasking - multitasking - multitasking - multitasking
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Why have this as a particular plus point for WinMo, when Android multitasks too?
Regards,
Dave
Just a thought:
I came from 3gs to desire and consider it better, actually so much better that it makes you wonder just what apple will come up with. Apple are used to having a market to itself and a widely accepted "best" phone of its kind. That has been blown away by the desire (my opinion) but I do wonder just how good the 4g will be against such competiton as the desire on android 2.2. I just cannot imagine apple accepting defeat by releasing something only as good or not quite as good as the desire. It would mean a uturn on flash and maybe some new tricks. I bought my phones outright just in case apple come up with an absolute show stopper BUT it will have to make the desire look like an abacus before I'd pay the mad iphone tariff's again. Android is just to good to be slung over a barrel by apple's controlling ways and prices. Bottom line, I'm fasicinated what the 4g will offer but suspect not enough, though its only a week or so to being announced so watch the "unveiling first" then you'll most likely go get a desire. If we were months away from unvieling I'd say just get a desire. I have only one negative of susbstance to offer about the desire and that is battery life. If you used only as a phone and text then of course its fine but using its capabilities I find its worse than iphone on battery but I can live with it via usb chargers in home, car and work.
Apple?
Apple is out of the game.
All they ever try and do is put bigger storage, and a slightly better camera to make a fatter phone.
It's the same old since the start of the iPod.
They won't come up with anything new, and the whole idea behind the iPhone OS is what holds it back.
As long as you stick with an OS that insists that access to everything is done by shortcuts on your homescreen (and yet still not multitask the way it should), it's going nowhere.
They're trying to do the Windows/Mac thing without the menus.
Look at it this way. I don't have a single icon on the desktop of any of my computers, but still I can access anything I want just as simply, or even see what I want without clicking anything. (a la android + widgets).
Apple made it so you can't see a thing on your home screen, except maybe the current date if you have your calendar icon set to display it.
I speak from experience here, I started with WinMo, and couldn't handle it, I moved to the iPhone and it was a heap of junk, gave it away (free) weeks after spending several hundred on it. Moved to the Xperia, WinMo again, it was nice, but still lacking, even with developing WinMo 6.5 ROMs etc. Then I came to the HTC Hero, amazing phone, best ever I'd say. Then came along the Desire and blew it out of the water. Lets just say, I'm Android for life now, until the next big startup comes and knocks it off its podium.
That being said, if you like customization without the trouble, the nexus is also a nice device, if somewhat slightly less capable than the desire, but it will always get the latest first.
I tried the desire out instore the other day, and I have to say I prefer the HD2. The Desire has some nice features, but I wasn't wowed by it. I've read reviews about how good screen is and I have to say I was very disappointed. Yes it was more colourful/vibrant than the HD2, but it's nowhere near as crisp imo.
I'm not wowed by the new specs of the iphone 4 either, it's a slight improvement on the 3Gs, but not exactly groundbreaking and only just catching up with other phones out there.
So I'm at a lost as to which phone to get, the only other phone that looks interesting is the Samsung Galaxy S, but I haven't tried one yet, and it's only on vodafone.
I think I'll just keep the HD2 and go on a sim only contract until something takes my fancy
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Apple is out of the game.
All they ever try and do is put bigger storage, and a slightly better camera to make a fatter phone.
It's the same old since the start of the iPod.
They won't come up with anything new, and the whole idea behind the iPhone OS is what holds it back.
As long as you stick with an OS that insists that access to everything is done by shortcuts on your homescreen (and yet still not multitask the way it should), it's going nowhere.
They're trying to do the Windows/Mac thing without the menus.
Look at it this way. I don't have a single icon on the desktop of any of my computers, but still I can access anything I want just as simply, or even see what I want without clicking anything. (a la android + widgets).
Apple made it so you can't see a thing on your home screen, except maybe the current date if you have your calendar icon set to display it.
I speak from experience here, I started with WinMo, and couldn't handle it, I moved to the iPhone and it was a heap of junk, gave it away (free) weeks after spending several hundred on it. Moved to the Xperia, WinMo again, it was nice, but still lacking, even with developing WinMo 6.5 ROMs etc. Then I came to the HTC Hero, amazing phone, best ever I'd say. Then came along the Desire and blew it out of the water. Lets just say, I'm Android for life now, until the next big startup comes and knocks it off its podium.
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LOL.
A question for my fellow Rhodium owners: What phone do you plan on (with the information on hand) going to next?
I'm on AT&T, and won't switch for many legacy reasons. I feel like there's no good options at this time. If I want to stay Windows Mobile, I either lose HTC or the keyboard, neither of which seems like an upgrade to me. If I go Android, the only good keyboard HTC phone is the Desire Z, and AT&T hasn't announced it yet. I want to stick with HTC on AT&T, but it looks like if I need a keyboard, it's LG WinPho7, or Samsung Android. Are there any better options? What are the rest of you, devotees of the amazing tilt keyboard form factor, planning on doing with this next generation of phones?
MS is unveiling Windows Phone 7 today, and a whole slew of phones have been announced for ATT, Sprint, and T-Mob. Many of the handsets will be available in the next couple months. WP7 is still an unknown. But MS has dumped lots of $$$ and time into its development. It remains to be seen if the new OS can compete with iOS4 and Android, but its worth considering.
Phonedog says the phones have appeared on ATT's website, but I can't find them. The HTC offering from ATT seems like an odd form factor, with a slide-out speaker instead of a keyboard. Multi-media is nice, but it doesn't trump the functionality of the keyboard, for me.
http://www.phonedog.com/2010/10/11/htc-surround-samsung-focus-lg-quantum-appear-on-at-t-s-site/
Sprint may have gotten the best successor to the TP2, in the form of the 7 Pro. Considering the name, this may be the "real" successor to the Touch Pro line. Looks like it even includes the tilt screen, and the 5th row of keys for the numbers; features which are both missing from HTC's recent keyboard-toting Android options (Desire Z and the T-Mobile G2).
http://www.phonedog.com/2010/10/11/htc-announces-five-windows-phone-7-devices-including-7-pro-for-sprint/
Assuming WP7 is up to the hype, we can hope and pray a version of the 7 Pro will come to ATT. But I'll bet we are in for a wait, if we get it at all. I'm in the same boat, as I am on ATT and don't plan to switch anytime soon.
Yeah, the HTC Surround, with the slide out speaker, seems useless. The sliding form-factor makes the phone really thick compared with a standard touch phone, and without a keyboard, there's not enough of a trade-off.
Thank you for posting the link to the 7 Pro, which seems like the best phone I've seen all year, and definitely the perfect successor to the Touch Pro 2. Given the Tilt's history with AT&T, I'm going nuts here that AT&T isn't getting it, at least not yet. Please, HTC, promise me it's coming!
I'm going to have to upgrade in the next six months if I don't hear about a "coming soon" keyboard phone that's going to make it work waiting a little longer, so somebody better start leaking info...
Here it is at Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-pro-first-hands-on/
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/10/htc7pro33.jpg
This phone has me salivating. I was ready to jump ship to Android, but if this comes to AT&T, I think I can give Microsoft another 2 years easy.
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Here it is at Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-pro-first-hands-on/
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/10/htc7pro33.jpg
This phone has me salivating. I was ready to jump ship to Android, but if this comes to AT&T, I think I can give Microsoft another 2 years easy.
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7 Pro
Look at that 7 Pro...
My goodness...thats my next. Without a doubt, although they say it's only coming to Sprint in the US, hopefully they will make an unlocked/gsm version. I'm on Tmo and I've never had 3G since before the TP2 I have the TyTn2. I don't think HTC would be that ignorant as to not release the 7 Pro on a GSM carrier in the US, It would make absolutely no sense.
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Look at that 7 Pro...
My goodness...thats my next. Without a doubt, although they say it's only coming to Sprint in the US, hopefully they will make an unlocked/gsm version. I'm on Tmo and I've never had 3G since before the TP2 I have the TyTn2. I don't think HTC would be that ignorant as to not release the 7 Pro on a GSM carrier in the US, It would make absolutely no sense.
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I agree. I can't find any sales figures, but the Touch Pro 2 occupies a very important business professional niche in the market, and HTC would be ill-advised to abandon it. Expecially when they've already got an amazing design, it wouldn't make sense to limit yourself just to Sprint. After all, Sprint exclusives aren't exactly tearing up the market.
htc 7 pro. looks niice.
linky.
Nothing I've seen so far has the same 5 row killer hardware keyboard as the TP2 so far (including the Desire-Z). It really is unsurpassed. At the same time, capacitive screens, touchscreen keyboards and the predictive algorithms behind them have got so much better than when the TP2 was designed, and we have Swype as well.
Based on this fact, it isn't necessarily a compromise to move away from a hardware keyboard nowadays. It depends on what you find important on your phone. I like photography and browsing on a large display and it'll be great to have a decent camera on me wherever I go. My next phone will probably be the Motorola XT720 Milestone as a result.
Touch pro 7 looks good but why the hell did they give it only a 3.6' screen? With the size of the phone they could have easily stretched the screen size to 4' or made it 3.7' at least, so it doesnt look like a downgrade for us TP2 owners. If that screen was 4', I would have been tempted to go for a WP7 phone but for now I still want to go 'De Android Way'
Right now, I have lost my interest in the Desire Z cos of the delays issues we have here in Europe. I would have gone for the Samsung Epic but we are not getting here so for now I will be putting off my next phone purchase for about 8 months or so, say June 2011.
Right now I am not sure what my next phone will be. I already have a HD2 along with my TP2 and Touch HD. I prefer WM but I rather wait on WM7 until one of our Great Chefs/Developers port it for the HD2 so I can evaluate the OS
it should be HTC 7 Pro
My two bits.
I knew wm phones before and had decided never to make the same mistake of having one as my main phone again. The only thing that changed that was the full qwerty 5 row keyboard.
I will only change to a much better processor, and i repeat MUCH better, no smaller screen, larger battery (don't care if the phone gets bigger) and multi touch screen.
Again much much better processor
i went from a tilt 2 to htc evo. i love my evo but i miss my tilting screen and keyboard dearly. it would be more forgivable if the evo supported blue tooth hid keyboard support but stock rom does not and the only ROM that does, which is very popular, is a ROM that i don't like, aka cm6.
i poked around here tonight to see exactly what the op was after and i don't think we have anything in the future like some of want.
another thing is that i have pleged that i will not have another wm phone, me and my family stuck with wm since 8125 and we now have the same out look as m$ when it comes to wm. this is the only reason for stipulating aos.
here is my dream phone
aos
4.3 led capcitive
slide/ tilting keyboard
2 cameras
1 ghz plus cpu
dedicated gcpu
1GBram
16GB internal
sd external
bright leds on back for flash and light
it needs to stay thin and have good sound and battery life, lol
plus all the other things we have come to expect from a smart phone.
price: less than $500
basically, touch pro + evo + some upgrades.
Im also wondering what my next phone will be. Im afraid to switch to android for fear its too 'dumbed down' compared to what Im used to, but it appears theres enough android hacking going on that it will probably be fine. I use outlook sync and know that can be a pita with android.
Im also afraid WP7 may be too dumbed down as well. No 3rd party multitasking and cut and paste? what are they thinking?
Anyway, love the looks of the 7 pro, but am I reading it correctly that it doesnt have a microSD slot? that cant be right
Sounds like my dream phone... and u know its possible, but will they make it?? And for all the carriers like the galaxy did... of course not, they feel the need to keep us asking for more
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here is my dream phone
aos
4.3 led capcitive
slide/ tilting keyboard
2 cameras
1 ghz plus cpu
dedicated gcpu
1GBram
16GB internal
sd external
bright leds on back for flash and light
it needs to stay thin and have good sound and battery life, lol
plus all the other things we have come to expect from a smart phone.
price: less than $500
basically, touch pro + evo + some upgrades.
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My next phone will be the VzW version of the EVO, to come out soon.
I'll keep my TP2 till she dies ... but after a (very) short memorial service/wake, I'll get the EVO. Cool like the TP2, but makes the iPhoneys jealous!
Oh and my dream phone should be water proof, lol
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well i always like phone that you can use with one hand.. hint hint t-mobile shadow 1, the touch pro2 was a nice switch but the t-mobile shadow had some advantage over it with it compact qwerty key pad, to sum it up the dell venue might be my next purchase... looking at the touch pro 7 spec it looks like Microsoft hint the jack pot using the first gen of snapdragon processor to power these deceive without having to use the second or third line up of snapdragon processor.
with that being said i feel like there not going to pull an iphone on me.... dell venue S, dell venue 2 SS, dell venue's SS 2.5, dell venue 3G, dell venu.... well u get the point
does anybody know if the dell ven going to support nextflic
The 7 Pro is amazing hardware, but the OS kills it. I just hope HTC brings the form factor to Android.
I would appreciate if anybody could give comparison between HD2 and Touch Pro2 because I am torn between the two models. I am now using Dopod 838pro (Tytn)
and want to upgrade coz my phone is "dying". Basically I like the HD2 for the speed and the screen but it don't have video call or macro mode. I like most of the spec in touch pro but it lack speed compare to HD2. So i guess someone who have used both of these models would know the pros and cons. Especially the speed of these two processor in real life. Any input would greatly appreciate
You should go for the HD2. The speeds of the TP2 is getting really anoying. And the fact that android is running very smooth on the HD2.
And there is the possiblity of a WP7 rom for the HD2 in the future.
The biggest decision you have to make is how much do you value a physical keyboard? If it's a big deal for you, then go for the Touch Pro2. If you don't care about a keyboard, then the HD2 is a far superior choice in terms of hardware as well as software development. HTC's website lists the specs of both machines. Keep in mind that the T-Mobile version of the HD2 has 1GB of internal storage as opposed to half of that on any other version of it.
my own opinion, go for TP2, it's qwerty hardware keyboard are valuable things to have, just like Your Hermes, it make different easy way related for daily working usage
Thanks for all the replies. My problem with HD2 is there is no secondary camera for video call. Then if I choose TP2, how bad is the speed, is it acceptable if compare to Hermes (Hermes is quite slow to me)?. Or is it just about the same?.
Well.... I think I have to choose TP2 for the secondary camera. If HD2 come with secondary camera that would be a dream. I have also look at other WinMo device such as Omnia Pro with the slide keyboard, secondary camera and 800MHz but not so good UI, and I like HTC more.
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Thanks for all the replies. My problem with HD2 is there is no secondary camera for video call. Then if I choose TP2, how bad is the speed, is it acceptable if compare to Hermes (Hermes is quite slow to me)?. Or is it just about the same?.
Well.... I think I have to choose TP2 for the secondary camera. If HD2 come with secondary camera that would be a dream. I have also look at other WinMo device such as Omnia Pro with the slide keyboard, secondary camera and 800MHz but not so good UI, and I like HTC more.
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If you are in the US, the second camera makes no difference as it will not work for video calling here. Video calls on the TP2 only work in Europe.
Ok dx3me, here's my personal opinion. I had previously purchased the Touch Pro2 because of its keyboard form factor as well as the front camera. I came from the Xda Exec/Htc Universal phone and this greatly influence my choise for the Tp2.
-->First complain edited since the TP2 can play smooth videos provided you know how to convert it with this tool--->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Second complain is that the internet experience is not that great and after using a hd2, I really prefer its bigger screen as it delivers a new approach on how you can easily browse, email, chats and so on. Very stylish in the hands and its look is simply amazing - it will surely not go unnoticed by people around you due to its huge screen + "slim" size.
Third and last one is that some softwares are so damn slow to run on it and the lack of extra RAM suffers greatly.
So I am definitely planning to switch to a HTC HD2 in the coming weeks as compared to the TP2, the HD2 has specifications of a new generation phone where as the tp2 is very very far behind. Now that many phones are coming out equipped with a 1ghz proccessor, I bet that most people will follow the trend and get similar powerful phones unless keyboard is an absolute must or money is a key factor...My opinions only...
Okay, you want an opinion? I'm a person with both a Touch Pro 2 and a HD2.
Well first, I loved my TP2. I thought it was the best phone I've ever had. Loved the physical keyboard, it seemed to be running fast, and it can run Android on it, although not quite so well. The resistive touchscreen was very accurate, even though it could sometimes be one big pain in the arse. That's when the stylus came in.Pop it out, use it, pop it back in, simple. But then after a while, the darn thing felt so slow. Pages took a long time to load, no Flash support in browsers, my battery drained fast. One day I went to the T-Mobile store in my area. What do I see sitting in front of me? A live working HD2, hooked up to their security system. So I try it. So fast, I have to have it. So I h'whipped p) out $500 bucks from my pocket a few months later, and I had my HD2. It can run Android 2.2. It can run Flash videos perfectly. Hell, even Windows Mobile was fast. Then I thought, oh shucks, the keyboard. I flipped the phone into Landscape mode and that friggin keyboard is amazing. Now I have big hands - my fingertips are about as big as the keys on my keyboard. This keyboard won't make you miss your Touch Pro 2. Since then, my Touch Pro 2 has sat in a corner, neglected. I feel sorry for it from time to time and use it p), but then I go straight back to the HD2.
One disadvantage of the HD2 is the BATTERY LIFE. Heavy use - 4 hours (constantly on)
HD2...I really like the hard keyboard on my TP2, but it just doesn't have enough Ram, My older Samsung Epix ran better, the TP2 just sucks away ram, I end up soft resetting a couple times a day, just from text messaging or checking my calendar or weather, it's a pretty big disappointment in that area. Just think, the HD2 will have a processor about twice the speed of the TP2 and twice the ram, plus half a Gig to 1 Gig of internal storage, for pesky programs that won't go on the storage card. If you want specs just check out: http://www.htc.com/us/products/compare/104-65-61?view=1-3&sort=0
I think I know which one to get!!
Thank you everyone for the inputs.
Well, I'm changing my mind. I have tested a demo HD2 in the shop and like it. I think I have to get the HD2. I also can't consider any of the WP7 devices at the moment because I think I would not buy the WP7 devices until it become better devices. That could be a year or two. Well if I could not live without the video call (on HD2), I have to fix my Hermes a bit as a backup. So I can use the video call on my good old Hermes. Hopefully this could work. (The only bad thing is I have to carry my Hermes along if I intend to do a video call)
Hi Mate,
I Have both the Touch Pro 2 and HD2 and I would only recommend the HD2!! My personal opion is that I would not waste your money on the touch pro 2.
Col
Hmmm, I've been using the HD2 for 1week now and my previous excitement has a bit vanished for this phone. I used the phone a lot for business purposes (especially using emails and chat a lot) and the lack of a keyboard suffers GREATLY. Though the HD2 screen is large for typing, I ended up in making mistakes couple of times when typing fast and I was really frustrated having to constantly correct my mistakes. This is time consuming especially when I have a lot of emails to respond on the way, and often gets my nerves to the limit.
The touch screen though is very responsive but I feel that the TP2 resistive screen has a bit more precision. Speed wise, the HD2 blows the TP2 and it is definitely great to watch your pictures/movies on the large screen. Apart from the mutimedia use, I am going to stick back to my TP2 and return the HD2. Nothing feels better than a physical qwerty keyboard and...a resistive screen for selecting a specific word easily when typing (...my opinions only).
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Though the HD2 screen is large for typing, I ended up in making mistakes couple of times when typing fast and I was really frustrated having to constantly correct my mistakes. This is time consuming especially when I have a lot of emails to respond on the way, and often gets my nerves to the limit.
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I have big hands and I only make one error out of every hundred words.
Hi there,
I'm hoping to help you with my story: Using my father's old WM device (MDA Compact III) for about one year, in the beginning of this year I decided to go for something new. My most important requirement for the new device was a QWERTZ-keyboard (here in Germany). So, there wasn't much of a choice I had and after scanning through some device's reviews looking also at those without a QWERTZ to get to know the current standards (among them the HD2, "old" TouchPro, G1, BlackBerry 9700, Xperia X1 and some of the Samsung and LG devices) I bought the TouchPro2 as it seemed to me the best choice concerning specifications and my demands. And I was really happy about it! It was way faster than my former MDA, had much better graphics, loads of software to use and so on...
When time passed by, I started to pick up on some custom roms, as I wasn't satisfied with the speed (everyone know about the upgrading his personal requirements). Found the roms of NRGZ28 very good, stable and fast.
However, I was constantly getting more and more fed up with WM6(.5) and the phone as there are some constant (to me unknown) freezes and hangs. And as WM7 will not be seen on this device I decided to go for another change: I ordered the Desire Z, which is (finally) on its way, maybe arriving today.
My advice for you: take a look at Android or WM7. And try around with those keyboards and decide, if you *really* need a physical one. There is a whole bunch of good devices, that will be released with WM7 and Android.
Cheers!
OP got the HD2. There is no longer any reason to try to convince him of anything.
cajunflavoredbob said:
OP got the HD2. There is no longer any reason to try to convince him of anything.
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ah, too late... well then, have fun with the hd2
abprie said:
ah, too late... well then, have fun with the hd2
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Hmmm I would be curious to hear your opinions on both phones - may you share?
I'd vote for the HD2 because of it's specifications. Like it was said earlier the HD2 blows the TP2 out of the water. But also pointed out is the problem with WinMo 6.5. This stock ROM is a dinosaur in age and just doesn't hold a candle up to Android or WM7. I also was fed up with it on my HD2 so I made a complete change and switched my device over the Android via custom ROMs found on these forums. I've never been happier!
So the debate really is between Android and WM7. Considering the future I think getting android would be a better deal. It's going to explode in popularity due to Microsoft's and Apple's security lockdowns on their devices (they aren't very customizable, WM7 and the iPhone etc), and because of Android being open source.
So before I get going on a tangent , I'd recommend getting the HD2 if you like customizing your phone A LOT. It can be kind of a scary procedure. But if you're not up to that kind of stuff I'd recommend looking at HTC's Android phones. They're very stable and fun to use. The TP2 will become a very average phone in the next while with all the new and cool stuff coming out.