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I bought an S620 on ebay, was setting it up and everything seemed fine until I noticed that the J, K, and L keys do not work at all.
The HTC website advised to shut the phone on and off, then perform a hard reset, and if neither of those work to send the phone in for repairs.
Well, neither of those worked, so am I out of luck and will have to send the phone for repairs? No idea what kind of warranty is on it, I am in the USA so I would probably have to ship it to some HTC repair center in some other part of the world...
Someone on howardforums suggested that I update the rom to the T-Mobile USA WM6 rom.
But...when I try to install the WM6 rom, I get an "invalid device id" (something like that) error. I take it this means the phone needs to be CID unlocked?
I did the SDA Unlock and also the SurrealNetworks Application Unlock but still get that error. Would I have to pay for an unlock code from a place like imeicheck in order to CID unlock the phone and then install the WM6 rom?
somewhere on this site you can find the answer to invalid device problem.
personally, i think your phone is defective.
A ROM upgrade won't change anything if the keys don't work before either. But if you'll have to send the device in for repairs you shouldn't have a ROM on it which is not the original one from HTC. The warranty could be voided!
Sounds like you got a defective phone. Maybe damaged by some fluid on the keyboard. Then you will not get a warranty repair. I suggest that you return the phone to the seller on Ebay.
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I asked the seller to take it back but haven't gotten a response. When I bought the phone I pulled a dumb move: made an offer by email after an auction had ended, then just did the transaction on paypal without putting a new auction thru. That left me no way to leave negative feedback, and no incentive for the seller to do anything to make me happy. I don't really feel like doing a dispute through paypal and getting caught up in that whole process. So it looks like I'm on my own.
I did a search and found the way to flash the T-Mobile USA WM6 rom onto the S620 here, but I guess that requires an unlock code from imei-check that costs money, for something that might not even fix my problem. My decision: skip that route.
As for warranty, I'm in the USA and this is not a USA model phone so I'm not be able to get warranty repairs from HTC USA. I spoke with HTC USA and they said for HTC branded phones they will accept them for non-warranty repairs, do an inspection to determine the cost of repairs, and then send me a new (maybe refurb?) replacement S620. Apparently they keep a few on hand specifically for this sort of thing. That option sounded appealing but they wouldn't really give me a ballpark figure of how much it'd cost or how long it'd take to turn around.
A friend recommended I check out www.cellulardr.com as a place to have the phone repaired. I called them and they sounded like they knew what they were talking about, told me how much it'd cost ($69 all told plus shipping) and how long it'd take to turn around (48 hours tops). Sounded good to me so I set it up. Lucky for me this seller who now has no reason to talk to me, was kind enough to at least sell me the phone for a steal of a price, so even with the repairs I'm still doing alright on the total price. I'll let you folks know how this turns out.
Bit of an update. According to Omnicom they've fixed the keyboard and are shipping the phone back to me. They were real good at sending me updates along the way. Will report back once I receive the phone.
Just wondering if anyone else has had any problems with HTC not honoring their warranty.
My Phone developed a fault a few months ago, where it would get hot and just reboot if it was plugged in. I eventually got round to sending it off and after 2 weeks it came back to the Vodafone shop with a message saying it was not repaired as it had been damaged. So I call the vodafone repair centre for more info and they told me that HTC had indicated that it had been water damaged, this really suprised me as the guys at the Vodafone store had checked the two visible tabs before they sent it out and the guys at Vodafone repair center had also checked for accidental damage before sending it to HTC and found nothing.
Since the phone has come back it is now rebooting all the time not just when charging and HTC won't do a thing the phone has never been in contact with water this is ridiculous the HTC warranty appears to be worth nothing.
HTC can tell if it's been user damaged in most cases, and if so, that doesn't qualify for warranty. Voda has no where near the same tools or understanding of the device. HTC can also call one of the chip manufacturers engineers in to ascertain failures for a second opinion.
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But it hasnt been water damaged, and if it had how could water have got into the internals without passing one of the two external indicators.
I had this exact fault on my phone too. I just called up my provider (Virgin Mobile) and they swapped it, no questions, no inspections, just a direct swap. It's definitely not a water-related issue, the motherboard itself is at fault. You only have to search the issue in Google to find many others with the same problem.
Yep I am aware of this being a very common issue, and it would appear that most other networks are just replacing immediately due to it being such a common fault, not only have Vodafone not done this they are offering me the "REALLY GOOD DEAL" of paying backdated phone insurance of £95 to get a replacement desire, sorry but as this issue is so common and if it was happen again, I dont want to have to pay cough up another chunk of cash, so if I have to pay out I think I should be able to get a different handset.
I'm having the exact problem, and it's specifically HTC AMERICA that is the problem. They are like a rogue nation, not even respecting their corporations own customer legal agreements.
Please see my thread here to read my conversation excerpt with Customer Service and tell me if it sounds anything like the kind of treatment you got. If so, we need to start a list, and I promise you, I am going to swing hard.
I have history. Long story but MacWorld, Wired, others covered it: I organized about 20 nations to pressure Apple back when they had their G4 desktop MDD which made excessive noise to issue replacement power supply units to every owner across the world, for free -- and it was the first time ever in the history of Apple where they issued a product replacement without their being a formal recall. And all of this without one lawyer or lawsuit. I'm just saying....
But it took cooperation, and complete documentation, and there was no way they could win. And I am tired of putting up with this bull**** from HTC AMERICA. They are pond scum who do nothing. HTC China are the brains and design geniuses who built and maintain an amazing company. HTC AMERICA is out to KILL IT.
Get insurance next time.
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Get insurance next time.
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I did... or thought I did. And made an unfortunate mistake. My last 2 phones I bought insurance through great company called "Square Trade"... Had a warranty problem with -- of all people -- HTC America -- on a 2 week old HTC Hero, and, long story short, Square Trade paid out fully in 48 hours, after a month of hassles with HTC America. (They require you go thru warranty first)
I bought it for the HTC DESIRE, but missed the fine print.... They only cover phones bought in USA... and this was bought from UK vendor... so, even though they accepted the payment, I submitted the proof of purchase, etc, they informed me when I went to try to file insurance claim here "hmm, says you bought this frm UK vendor" "yes i did"
"insurance is void"
So, for that I am technically at fault, but when i went back and checked, it was pretty small print -- and what threw me was, the HTC HERO which was covered by them and paid out by them, was also bought from UK, but it was bought via a USA vendor who imported it... hah hah. So, in any case, it just didn't occur to me that there was a restriction, but i was wrong.
Having said all that, I'm curious:
I always find it odd when people reply as you did. Do you really find that helpful when you are on the receiving end of something equivalent to:
WELL YOU'RE SCREWED THIS TIME, YOU SHOULDA DONE THIS IDIOT.
??
I for one never find it helpful. But, uh, thanks for your typing time.
I recently purchased GSM Galaxy Nexus from Expansys-US and not long after that I accidentally dropped the phone and cracked the screen. I am currently residing in US. If this happens to you, do not expect assistance from Samsung UK. They cannot assist you if you do not reside in UK. Here is the email threads that I have exchange with Samsung UK.
My First Email
I have purchased Galaxy Nexus from expansys-usa.com, but I live in XXXXX USA. I have issue where the fortified glass is cracked around the front facing camera. I need to have this issue fixed. I registered my product on UK Support site and opened up inquiry. The response I received from UK Support is that they cannot help me at all since I do not live in UK. When I try to register the galaxy nexus on US site, I was not able to do so since it can't find galaxy nexus. I really need to find out how to get this issue resolve. Please provide me step so I can talk to someone that will help me resolve this problem.
First Samsung Response Email
Customer reference number: XXXXXXXX
Email response ID: XXXXXXXX
Please quote your customer reference number when contacting Samsung
Dear XXXXX
Thank you for contacting Samsung.
I'm afraid that since your phone's screen was damaged this will not be covered under warranty anyway. I
would therefore urge you to bring your phone to a local mobile phone repair shop and ask them to repair it as
Samsung UK cannot repair this under warranty.
If you require any further assistance, please contact Samsung again and we will be more than happy to help.
Kind regards
Ciaran
Online Support Team
SAMSUNG Customer Support Centre
Second email I wrote is to ask if they can provide me a Service Center I can contact so I can receive the repair service. Here is the second response.
My Second Email
The answer you gave me is not very helpful at all. The problem is Samsung so-called fortified screen is not so fortified. It's cracked and for the ten billionth times I know that it's not cover under the freaking warranty. Now as Customer Service try to figure out how you can help me. There is no local phone repair store I know that can help repair Galaxy Nexus which has not been release in US. Why can't I send the phone to UK to get it repair? What's the cost of the repair? What's the cost to have the phone shipped back to me? Where can I send to the phone to be repair? Why can't you guys give me that information? If this is the kind of service I get from purchasing products from Samsung. I will refrain buying from Samsung altogether in the future. If you, Customer Service, can't solve this issue please escalate to your manager. If your manager can't do it, find someone who is competent and capable of assisting me in solving this issue.
Second Samsung Response Email
Customer reference number: XXXXXXXX
Email response ID: 2106733927
Please quote your customer reference number when contacting Samsung
Dear XXXXX
Thank you for contacting Samsung.
I am sorry to hear that your screen has become broken.
I would suggest you get in contact with the following service centre to see if they will accept the phone in for
repair from outside the UK.
Regeneris Limited
32 Fountain Drive
Inchinnan Buisness Park
Renfreshire
PA49RF
Glasgow
Phone +44 141 812 1111
As this damage is not covered by warranty this is the best solution I can provide you with. I hope this resolves
the issues you are facing and you get your phone back soon.
If you require any further assistance, please contact Samsung again and
we will be more than happy to help.
Kind regards
Chris
Online Support Team
SAMSUNG Customer Support Centre
Then I contacted Regeneris Limited in UK for service assistance. Here are the following email message between Regeneris and myself.
My email
Support,
I was recommended by Samsung to contact Regenersis in regards to repairing cracked screen on Samsung Galaxy Nexus. I also have been informed by Samsung that the warranty does not cover cracked screen. If Regenersis can service cracked screen on Galaxy Nexus, I am curious to find out the cost of the service plus the price of shipping to XXXXX, US. Approximately how many days will it take to fix the problem?
The screen is cracked around front facing camera.
Regenersis Email
Good Morning
Thank you for your email.
Can you please advise if you purchased your handset from the UK.
If you did then we will be able to repair this for you.
It costs roughly £100-200 for the screen to be repaired plus about £10 to return the handset back to the US.
Regards
lorna
My Email
It was purchased from http://www.expansys-usa.com/
Regenersis Email
Hi
As this handset was purchased from the USA we are unable to repair this here.
You would need to contact Samsung to find out where the handset can be repaired in the USA.
lorna
So far as you can see I have been receiving a great customer service. Even though I bought my phone form Expansis-US which is part of Expansis in UK, I was told that they cannot do anything for me in term of service. Then I wrote back another email to Samsung UK and here is what I have received for the reply.
Third Samsung Response Email
Customer reference number: XXXXXXXX
Email response ID: 2106785983
Please quote your customer reference number when contacting Samsung
Dear XXXXX
Thank you for contacting Samsung.
I am sorry to hear that your screen is broken and that Regenerise is unable to help you.
As you are not in the UK I cannot offer further support in this matter. You will need to contact SamsungUS to
find a repair centre in your area.
This information can also be found on our American website.
www.samsung.com/us
If you require any further assistance, please contact Samsung again and
we will be more than happy to help.
Kind regards
Chris
Online Support Team
SAMSUNG Customer Support Centre
From that email, Samsung UK literally informed me that I am SCREWED for purchasing their product not specifically made for US market. I am hoping that since the release of Galaxy Nexus even though it’s not the same as GSM version, I would be able to get some sort of assistance in repairing my cracked FORTIFIED screen. Please find someone that can help me getting this issue resolve. If you are going to email with the similar answer to Samsung UK, please don’t bother. I want a resolution to cracked FORTIFIED screen.
Suggestion for resolving this issue:
• Provide me a service center in US where I can service my phone.
• Provide me the cost of repairing the so called FORTIFIED screen.
• Provide me that length of time it will need to fix the issue.
I just opened up another ticket with Samsung US. Since Verizon Galaxy Nexus is available in US, I am hoping that Samsung US can help me with the problem. Stay tune for future update.
I'm probably not offering much help, but maybe you could try contacting Samsung CDN and get the info you want.
Just a thought.
Hope you get your phone fixed.
Apologies if this sounds rude, but you should've asked expansys if they would be willing to ship your phone to the UK for repairs before buying it or at least looked up Samsung's international warranty handling (as you found out-nonexistant). Handtec states in their terms that they are wiling to do this if you ship the phone to them, expansys makes no mention at all about the warranty of this phone.
I'm sure if you can buy the glass from ebay or another seller and take it to a local phone repair shop they can fix it for you.
Also-I don't believe cracked glass is covered under warranty, you would have to pay for it out of pocket regardless.
So you dropped your phone, and after one email from Samsung basically telling you it's not covered (because its not) you decided to be an ass to the customer service rep? Real nice.
I was also under the impression that Expansys-USA would handle the warranty situation for you, similar to the way Handtec does (i.e., you send the phone to Expansys, they send it to the UK to be serviced, it gets sent back to Expansys, and Expansys sends it back to you). Have you contacted them as the poster before me has suggested? Please keep us updated. I'm curious to hear how this is handled.
You went about this all wrong.
First, you need to contact expansys and use them as an intermediary.
Second, your email to Samsung USA is laughable. You seem to think that because your phone has a fortified screen, it should be invulnerable to damage.
Third, being kind and constructive will achieve more than being snide, condescending, and sarcastic. I am confident you will learn from this valuable experience.
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you will not get warranty period
even if you did buy it locally
a screen damage is a PHYSICAL damage, no factory warranty covers that.
only if you buy expensive no hassle warranties from like Best Buy and such, and they will only let you fix it ONCE! that's all
just google or search ebay for replacement screens, and do it youself as many members have done in the forum
average $200 ~ $250 + shipping cost + taxes where applicable
or better yet, chop the phone to pieces and sell it as part you get more money out of it that way, then buy a new phone
This is called grey market electronics and has always been iffy.
Stock ICS OTA 4.0.3
AllGamer said:
you will not get warranty period
even if you did buy it locally
a screen damage is a PHYSICAL damage, no factory warranty covers that.
only if you buy expensive no hassle warranties from like Best Buy and such, and they will only let you fix it ONCE! that's all
just google or search ebay for replacement screens, and do it youself as many members have done in the forum
average $200 ~ $250 + shipping cost + taxes where applicable
or better yet, chop the phone to pieces and sell it as part you get more money out of it that way, then buy a new phone
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I don't think the OP expected the screen to be fixed free of charge. Normally, if you crack your screen, the manufacturer will fix it for you for a price. For example, my mother shattered the glass on her Nexus S a few months ago and Samsung US had her send it to them and replaced the screen for something like $150. I assume this is what the OP was looking for.
the thing is on his emails tone, and the way how Tech Support or Customer Service people reads it is
"i want my screen replaced free"
so they will automatically give them the typical reply which you see quoted on the first page
he should have sent an email asking
"Which service centre do i sent my phone, to have my broken screen replace, and how much the repair it cost?"
then you will get the proper response from the CSR people or TS people
AllGamer said:
you will not get warranty period
even if you did buy it locally
a screen damage is a PHYSICAL damage, no factory warranty covers that.
only if you buy expensive no hassle warranties from like Best Buy and such, and they will only let you fix it ONCE! that's all
just google or search ebay for replacement screens, and do it youself as many members have done in the forum
average $200 ~ $250 + shipping cost + taxes where applicable
or better yet, chop the phone to pieces and sell it as part you get more money out of it that way, then buy a new phone
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Don't mean to be rude but Best Buy's warranty is about $10 per month which is a few dollars more then carriers insurance and you get unlimited repairs, you just have to wait the 2-5 days it takes to get the refurb back. Know this from personal experience, I've sent some kids iPhone out about 5 times for cracked screens because he refuses to get a case because he doesn't have to worry about paying deductibles and nonsense.
On topic: Try buying a screen and checking out local computer repair shops. I know where I live if you buy the screen my local computer repair shop will replace it for a fee.
mcp2009 said:
Don't mean to be rude but Best Buy's warranty is about $10 per month which is a few dollars more then carriers insurance and you get unlimited repairs, you just have to wait the 2-5 days it takes to get the refurb back. Know this from personal experience,
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that's a different warranty, the one i had in mind was the $250 for the life of the phone, and it is transferable to the refurb or replacement phone.
but it was not a monthly payment of $10
that might be a different plan i'm not aware of
either case i would not pay monthly, that's probably how they recoup the loses, as you will be forever paying until you cancel it
From what I've read it's near impossible to replace the glass in the phone because it's fused to the housing. Have to replace the screen and housing with glass.
AllGamer said:
the thing is on his emails tone, and the way how Tech Support or Customer Service people reads it is
"i want my screen replaced free"
so they will automatically give them the typical reply which you see quoted on the first page
he should have sent an email asking
"Which service centre do i sent my phone, to have my broken screen replace, and how much the repair it cost?"
then you will get the proper response from the CSR people or TS people
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Agreed. OP, you definitely could have used a different tone. Either way, contact Expansys and see what they tell you. And please report back here once you do, if you don't mind. I'm sure a lot of people would be curious to hear how this will be handled.
OP, your communications with the service center is awful. To the point I could call you an ass.
The first thing you did wrong was contact Samsung UK even though you live in the US
Basically, you're like "I bought a motorcycle from Brazil and now I've gone through customs, imports, registration in Japan so I can ride it. Brazil, even though you didn't authorize the export of the motorcycle, even though you don't operate in the Japan market, even though you guys speak a different language, even though you're half a world away, I want you to take care of my motorcycle cause I crashed it into a car."
Am i missing something? You broke the screen, the GSM verison isn't avaiable in the us. You bought the unlocked UK version, find a local shop and get it repaired. No need to be an ass. Samsung didnt do anything wrong here.
I already contacted Expansys-US and there is nothing that they can do for me. They suggest that I contact Samsung UK. Those are series of emails, not just one emails from Samsung. I was polite at first but after series of emails without any answers to my questions I started to get angry.
I already know from the second email from Samsung UK that it's not cover by the warranty which I am ok. I am willing to spend money to fix the screen. It takes another 4-6 emails for me to find out that service center in UK cannot do anything at all even though I am willing to pay for the service.
In the end all Samsung could do was to inform me there is nothing they can do for me. All I want is a place where I can send my phone to be service, and I will pay for it. That's not much to ask. If they can answer my question at the beginning, I would not have been rude to them. After series of emails, I had enough. I just want to let folks know that's all.
The answer you gave me is not very helpful at all. The problem is Samsung so-called fortified screen is not so fortified. It's cracked and for the ten billionth times I know that it's not cover under the freaking warranty.
yeah, that kinda tone wont garner you any sympathy, especially if its your "SECOND EMAIL' - not quite the billionth time
grow up
The fact that you bought a grey market item means there is no warranty. ADD to the fact that you are talking to the UK arm of Samsung makes it a tough situation.
Expansys-US probably did not help you because they knew that this was something that is not covered under warranty. What did you expect them to do? Find a place that you pay to repair it and have them handle it? That's on you.
You probably will not find any luck having to do anything with the UK. Maybe try Samsung US and say you bought a Verizon GN and ask them if they would be able to repair the screen for a cost? Or ask them where you could send it?
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Expansys-US probably did not help you because they knew that this was something that is not covered under warranty. What did you expect them to do? Find a place that you pay to repair it and have them handle it? That's on you.
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I wonder if this is indeed the reason Expansys didn't help, or whether they never help w/ warranty replacement. I have a friend who wants to order the Galaxy Nexus from Expansys since they're in the U.S. I e-mailed them for him yesterday asking what their warranty policy is, but they haven't gotten back to me yet. I'm wondering if it's because they don't help you out at all. If this is the case, I don't know why anyone would order through Expansys, when companies like Handtec will act as your intermediary for warranty claims.
Greets all,
Just wanted to make some people aware in case no one wasnt about the HTC support with has left a extremely bad taste. Let me explain in short:
I bought the HOX international version and I live in the US, I wanted the quad core instead of the dual core. Long story short the screen got smashed cause I had lost my balance, so I called HTC and wanted to send it to them to replace the screen instead of me doing it. Mind you it has a 1 year warranty. So they took my info and then gave me an RMA to send it off, so far no problem. I packed up the phone sent it off to them and for a month I kept hearing when I would check up by calling, "we are waiting for the part to ship". I figured how hard is it to get a screen for their own phone. Well I got the phone call today and this is what they tell me:
We cant repair your phone because its an international phone based off the UK, and you are in the US, and because of the ITC court ruling in favor of Apple, we are not allowed to repair and send you back your phone. We have two options we can provide for you: 1) Replace the phone with a US ATT version unlocked, 2) or we can send the phone back to you unrepaired.
I told them why would I want a sub-version of the HOX with a dual core when I bought a quad core. I told them I'll buy the screen and send it to them and they can fix it, they said no they couldnt do that. So I told them, so your telling me that I have to buy the screen, replace it myself, which then voids my warranty instantly because I repaired it myself? They said basically yes.
So now I have to go find a complete screen replacement for the International HOX, replace it myself, and basically kill my warranty thanks to a BS ruling in favor of Apple. I cant believe instead of making a customer happy which was going to Pay for the repair, they wont touch it. I would have thought that it would be they couldnt sell the phone or something, not repair it!
So I would suggest to people who have the international phone in the US to beware of HTC, seems they wont fix the phone if its in the US.
It's always been like this with International phones. Warranties aren't valid in the U.S.. This is why you purchase 3rd party coverage like SquareTrade.
And, if you look near you, I am sure you can find cell phone shops that can repair your screen for well under $100. We have them here in Delaware.
AngelDeath said:
Greets all,
Just wanted to make some people aware in case no one wasnt about the HTC support with has left a extremely bad taste. Let me explain in short:
I bought the HOX international version and I live in the US, I wanted the quad core instead of the dual core. Long story short the screen got smashed cause I had lost my balance, so I called HTC and wanted to send it to them to replace the screen instead of me doing it. Mind you it has a 1 year warranty. So they took my info and then gave me an RMA to send it off, so far no problem. I packed up the phone sent it off to them and for a month I kept hearing when I would check up by calling, "we are waiting for the part to ship". I figured how hard is it to get a screen for their own phone. Well I got the phone call today and this is what they tell me:
We cant repair your phone because its an international phone based off the UK, and you are in the US, and because of the ITC court ruling in favor of Apple, we are not allowed to repair and send you back your phone. We have two options we can provide for you: 1) Replace the phone with a US ATT version unlocked, 2) or we can send the phone back to you unrepaired.
I told them why would I want a sub-version of the HOX with a dual core when I bought a quad core. I told them I'll buy the screen and send it to them and they can fix it, they said no they couldnt do that. So I told them, so your telling me that I have to buy the screen, replace it myself, which then voids my warranty instantly because I repaired it myself? They said basically yes.
So now I have to go find a complete screen replacement for the International HOX, replace it myself, and basically kill my warranty thanks to a BS ruling in favor of Apple. I cant believe instead of making a customer happy which was going to Pay for the repair, they wont touch it. I would have thought that it would be they couldnt sell the phone or something, not repair it!
So I would suggest to people who have the international phone in the US to beware of HTC, seems they wont fix the phone if its in the US.
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Blame Apple. Sounds like HTC is jammed up by a court decision, not because they want to piss you off.
Before the rage begins, I think offering to swap it with an ATT unit was a really good gesture. HTC US deal with the ATT model, and it makes sense that's what they offer!
Baldilocks said:
It's always been like this with International phones. Warranties aren't valid in the U.S.. This is why you purchase 3rd party coverage like SquareTrade.
And, if you look near you, I am sure you can find cell phone shops that can repair your screen for well under $100. We have them here in Delaware.
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That isn't entirely true. HTC has a global warranty so it doesn't matter which country you are in.
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Before the rage begins, I think offering to swap it with an ATT unit was a really good gesture. HTC US deal with the ATT model, and it makes sense that's what they offer!
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I thought it was better than them just telling him that he was completely screwed. Sure it isn't the same phone but in some circumstances it is better than no phone.
The problem here is its not a warranty issue, this is a out of warranty repair, this is like buying a BMW over seas, bringing it here and then something goes wrong and you needed it fixed, BMW here says sorry we cant touch it cause Ford wont allow it. A global warranty or even a out of warranty repair shouldnt be held subject to Crapple. I understand they cant offer the phone here in the states, but repairing? you got to be kidding!
Plus I'm not out of a phone, I have a second HOX international I got it after this one got smashed. But now I have to fix the white one when it comes in and fix it myself, but its wrong that my fixing it voids all warranties, I'd even accept if it was a warranty repair and it couldnt be fixed and they offered the US version as an alternative dur to the restrictions, but this is like going to a service repair shop and they wont fix it. It's BS.
Baldilocks said:
It's always been like this with International phones. Warranties aren't valid in the U.S.
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Actually, up until the Apple litigation, they did repair international phones in the U.S. (unlike Samsung). The problem is that they aren't permitted to reload the international s/w here in the U.S. because it contains features that have been banned. The U.S. XL for example doesn't have the traditional Android app picker; it's been replaced by a tabled menu. Anyone importing an international phone in to the U.S. really needs to fully investigate the down sides before making a purchase. And HTC U.S. deserves kudos for offering a One XL as replacement for a phone not even purchased in the U.S.
Dear Barry,
I understand you have some questions about the Bootloader unlock tool and the warranty for your device. I know how important it is for you to receive correct information and I will be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Unlocking the bootloader means that you now have the ability to customize software on your device. Barry, please note that changing your bootloader can cause significant issues with your device and once you have unlocked your device, you have agreed to the disclaimer that states a change in warranty status such that in the event you render your device unusable, you are responsible for the recovery of your device, whether by repair or by other means. The final decision about what is covered under the warranty (and the cost) is up to the repair technicians if you have your device repaired.
As for the warranty, your device does have Global Warranty so if you ever need your device repaired, we can do so here in the United States. Again, the final decision about what is covered under the warranty (and the cost) is up to the repair technicians if you have your device repaired.
To set up a repair ticket, you will need to speak to the HTC America Warranty & Repair Center. Their contact information is 1-888-617-1113 from 8 A.M. – 8 P.M. ET, 7 days a week. Barry, they will be able to answer any questions you have about the warranty and repair process.
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If you want to keep the tegra one x i suggest sending it to a friend/family member in europe and get them to get it repaired.
Or, like I suggested, take it to a local cell phone repair shop. They can fix it fairly quickly, usually while you wait.
I'm confused why you are unhappy with HTC. You bought a phone from them and they offered you international warranty. In the meanwhile, the law of the land changed and the warranty is invalidated as a result. HTC recognizes this and offers you something within the purview of the law because you are their customer and want to keep you as their customer. I agree that this is actually a thumbs up for HTC to offer you an One XL in exchange for something which is not at all their fault.
Also you prolly are just another one caught up in the whole Apple, Samsung, HTC, etc patent-licensing bit and if the judgement was put out a little later, HTC would have repaired the phone. HTC warranty also states that you open the hardware without us being involved, we ain't gonna touch it, which IMHO is fair. Somebody buys my product, messes up the internals, bring it back to me to fix for free (or something close). So i do, since i promised on good faith and next thing i know, everybody around here doing exchanges.
The best thing is to send it outside the US where it can be fixed, hell, send it to India and i'll send it in for fixing and ship it back to you when its done. Or do what Baldilocks^^^ just suggested.
Baldilocks said:
Or, like I suggested, take it to a local cell phone repair shop. They can fix it fairly quickly, usually while you wait.
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akhileshp said:
The best thing is to send it outside the US where it can be fixed, hell, send it to India and i'll send it in for fixing and ship it back to you when its done. Or do what Baldilocks^^^ just suggested.
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won't both these methods still invalidate the warranty though?
But, it will be fixed.
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Or, like I suggested, take it to a local cell phone repair shop. They can fix it fairly quickly, usually while you wait.
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Got the name of the place in Deleware? And the problem with local shops is not all of them know what they are doing even if they say they do, remember alot just see dollar signs, so its hard to find a shop that actually knows what they are doing. Plus this being an international version, the other problem is finding the right screen that fits and is original, most will just take the cheapest they find and charge you double plus labor.
akhileshp said:
I'm confused why you are unhappy with HTC. You bought a phone from them and they offered you international warranty. In the meanwhile, the law of the land changed and the warranty is invalidated as a result. HTC recognizes this and offers you something within the purview of the law because you are their customer and want to keep you as their customer. I agree that this is actually a thumbs up for HTC to offer you an One XL in exchange for something which is not at all their fault.
Also you prolly are just another one caught up in the whole Apple, Samsung, HTC, etc patent-licensing bit and if the judgement was put out a little later, HTC would have repaired the phone. HTC warranty also states that you open the hardware without us being involved, we ain't gonna touch it, which IMHO is fair. Somebody buys my product, messes up the internals, bring it back to me to fix for free (or something close). So i do, since i promised on good faith and next thing i know, everybody around here doing exchanges.
The best thing is to send it outside the US where it can be fixed, hell, send it to India and i'll send it in for fixing and ship it back to you when its done. Or do what Baldilocks^^^ just suggested.
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The problem here is very simple, again I understand about not selling the phone in the states based on the ruling, but when you already OWN the phone whether its before the ruling or after, should NOT apply to repairs. Hence my example of BMW and Ford. Repairs of a phone isnt the same thing as buying or HTC attempting to sell the phone in the US defying the ruling. Its basic customer support and relations.
Its the same for example, you unlock the bootloader and leave the stock rom, or you flash a custom rom, then you break your screen, you call HTC for an out of warranty repair, and they tell you they cant fix it cause you unlocked the bootloader when the cracked screen has nothing to do with the unlocked bootloader. Or if there is a know defect in the phone and they wont fix it because of the ruling, or cause its unlocked. Once a phone is purchased the ruling should have no effect or implications to repairs, and I havent read the ruling, but I would be HIGHLY surprised if the ruling did include repairs, I can almost guarantee the ruling has to do with selling in the states.
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won't both these methods still invalidate the warranty though?
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Sending it to someone outside of the US and having them call HTC for repair no will not void the warranty, because you are having HTC do the repairs. Opening it yourself and doing the repair yes will. But when you dont know anyone overseas to send it to you have no choice, its either have a useless phone, or fix it yourself, and how many are going to let a $550 phone thats fairly new sit that way?
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Agreed.
https://plus.google.com/112648899669966964704/about?gl=us&hl=en
There is a link to their Google+ page. Complete with address and phone number.
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You sent your "not for USA, not sold in USA" phone for an OUT of WARRANTY repair, yet they offered you an ATT replacement because of Legal issues. That is called GREAT customer service!
By the way, read the warranty booklet, it clearly states that warranty is applicable only in countries where the phone is sold in, and the Tegra3 HOX is NOT sold in USA.
If you still want to repair it through HTC, check from where you baught the phone, many UK online retailers (not sure of other EU) will gladly handle the repair of the phones they sell through HTC.
Hey all,
I would really appreciate your advice...
I've had my Verizon G4 for less than a month.
My wifi completely crapped out and I'm getting random reboots. I'm 99% it's a hardware issue.
I've loaded the latest 13b update but doesn't fix anything...
My question to you all is this... should I send it back to Verizon for Warranty Like New Replacement or Send it back to LG Directly for Warranty repair?
The reason why I ask is because I did drop the phone once and it nicked the corner of the phone slightly (see attached pic).
If I send to Verizon, what are the chances they'll charge me the $300 damage fee?
The rest of the phone is pristine...
I know if I send back to LG, they'll just send it back to me as is...
Everyone's thoughts would be appreciated...
Thanks in advance
joel32137 said:
Hey all,
I would really appreciate your advice...
I've had my Verizon G4 for less than a month.
My wifi completely crapped out and I'm getting random reboots. I'm 99% it's a hardware issue.
I've loaded the latest 13b update but doesn't fix anything...
My question to you all is this... should I send it back to Verizon for Warranty Like New Replacement or Send it back to LG Directly for Warranty repair?
The reason why I ask is because I did drop the phone once and it nicked the corner of the phone slightly (see attached pic).
If I send to Verizon, what are the chances they'll charge me the $300 damage fee?
The rest of the phone is pristine...
I know if I send back to LG, they'll just send it back to me as is...
Everyone's thoughts would be appreciated...
Thanks in advance
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You don't send to VZW, they will ship to you first within the 12 month warranty period or anytime if you have Total Equipment Protection Coverage and provide a pre-paid shipping label in the box for you to send it back within 5 days which is really 30 days. This is the exact wording in the info in Certified Like New Replacements which you will get when the phone is shipped to you:
"WARRANTY INFORMATION
If your device has been subjected to neglect, misuse, liquid damage, software or hardware alteration, or unreasonable wear and tear, it is not eligible for a replacement under this program. Do not return the damaged device to us or you will be charged up to the full replacement value of your replacement device, which may be in excess of $500, even if you subscribe to an Equipment Protection Program. Instead, return the replacement device to us in the box in which it came. If you have equipment protection, contact your provider to discuss replacement options for damaged devices. For more information, visit verizonwireless.com/damageddevice"
The damage fee is not $300, it's basically the full retail price of the phone which is around $600. If you have insurance, you might be better off using that instead as it's $150 but remember that if you make 2 claims within a 24 month period, they will cancel your insurance.
If Verizon Wireless sends you a phone, you are not obligated to keep it as you just need to either send back your phone or what they sent you. If you find anything wrong with the replacement, then you call Verizon Wireless Level 2 tech support directly without going through the Level 1 or customer service and they will ship another phone to you. When you receive the new replacement, you ship the previous replacement back and then at the end, you either end up with your old phone or you ship back the last thing they shipped you.
Just a quick update...
I decided to send back to LG vs sending it to Verizon since I didn't want to deal with the possibility of Verizon charging me $500 bucks for some minor dings that had nothing to do with the hardware issue.
The only downside is that you will be without a phone for 2 weeks. Here's the run down...
-Mailed out on Tuesday.
-Arrived at LG following Monday.
-Repaired and Shipped back Tuesday (That was a quick turn around...)
-Scheduled to arrive this Friday.
What's nice about sending it to LG is that my IMEI doesn't change. If I went the VZ route, they would have given me a refurb with a different IMEI. Because the VZ refurb IMEI doesn't match the IMEI on my original receipt, LG will not honor warranty since there's a IMEI mismatch. This wouldn't be much of an issue if I stick with VZ for the entire year.... however, with all the cell service deals going around, I'm sure I'll be jumping the VZ bandwagon...
Hope this post helps others...
Thanks