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Is there a app or something that will let me close everything I have open?

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So far I am always having to go into taskman to shut all the apps down. That is a major pain in the bum!!!!!!!
Is there something im missing or is there a app where I can just hit the end key and it will shut it down???

oxios close tasks is free and closes everything with one click.
i think you can set up celetask with a hotkey to close an app you are in but then you have to leave celetask running. i just go in and close apps every once in awhile.

Task Manager
Start > Task Manager
Press "2"

There should be an application to stop services like My5Service and SMSCReceiver and other services from starting that are not required.
Anyone know of such an app or can anyone make one?
JAmerican

try searching the registry for them and remove them

I use AE Buttons plus to map keys to certain things, it works on the Q so it should work on excalibur. I have one key that I press and hold (my email key) and that closes the active application.. kills it that is.

Hey everybody, thanks for all the feedback. Im very new to the ppc and smartphone world so Im still learning, Are smartphones like symbian where if ya leave the app open they stay running and drain the battery and slow everything down?

Isn't the CloseAll app a crossover app fromthe PPC. I thought it worked on the smart phones ?

xbar 3.2 is the best

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xbar 3.2 is the best
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does is work propery with you dash ? in my case it looks akward what version have you got ?
cudo

WM6 doesn't release program memory after program close

Hi all,
I have been suffering by this issue.
I do not have many program in my x01ht, only isilo, mbook, rescoviewer, rescoexplorer, PMcontact, pocket imformant HTC Home, Slide to unlock 0.72, CE-Star, CORG (some of them are installed in card memory)
Everytime after I soft reset my x01ht (offical WWE ROM), I have 26-27M program free
However, after running couple of apps., the program memory drops (of course), the problem is if the app. takes 5M of program, WM6 only release 2-3M memory after I close this app.
So, after half day using my x01ht , I must reset it once , otherwise there is less than 10 M program memory free inside, and I could not run more than 1 program or use PIE to surf internet
Does anyone know anything I could do to fix it ?
Or it just normal because it's based on "window" ?
Appreciated!

I use a small app called "Hibernate" to release closed program memory daily. It was installed already on my TNT rom, so do a search should to find it's cab.

Freeware Oxios Memory (containing Hibernate and Close Apps mentioned in above post) can be downloaded here.

Thanks so much Guys, but I also read from this forum, somebody said this program makes hermes device no more multi-task functions
Everytime users only can run one program...very weird.
Any other users tried this program on Hermes? (Offical WM6 ROM or Cooked ROM?)
Actually I am trying it now, but I have a question, what's the difference in function between Osios Hibernate and Oxios CloseApps ?
Thanks

Not even Oxios Hibernate can free all used RAM. It's an OS issue, called memory leak.
Hibernate - free RAM without closing apps.
CloseApps - Hibernate + Close all apps

DaVince said:
Not even Oxios Hibernate can free all used RAM. It's an OS issue, called memory leak.
Hibernate - free RAM without closing apps.
CloseApps - Hibernate + Close all apps
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Thanks so much,
I have found out something weird after I install this app.
It automatically closes my app. after couple of mins (after use) , even I only run ONE app.
And it closes app. when I run more than 3-4 apps at the same times immediately (after I run the 5th or 6th app. )
I thought Hibernate and closeapps functions when I click it , but not automatically close my apps., isn't it?

kinghung said:
Thanks so much,
I have found out something weird after I install this app.
It automatically closes my app. after couple of mins (after use) , even I only run ONE app.
And it closes app. when I run more than 3-4 apps at the same times immediately (after I run the 5th or 6th app. )
I thought Hibernate and closeapps functions when I click it , but not automatically close my apps., isn't it?
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They should work on demand - i.e. only when you run them by clicking the icon/exe. I am using these two apps for quite some time and never had such an experience you describe. Seems the culprit is something else in your case...

It's a natural WM behavior to close other apps when the system requires more memory. For example, you open up calendar, then you open up a game that requires a lot of memory, WM will close calendar automatically.
It's not the Hibernate/CloseApp app that's doing it.

DaVince said:
It's a natural WM behavior to close other apps when the system requires more memory. For example, you open up calendar, then you open up a game that requires a lot of memory, WM will close calendar automatically.
It's not the Hibernate/CloseApp app that's doing it.
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But before I installed this oxios memory, It didn't happen to me.
And after I uninstalled it, It doesn't happan again (I uninstalled it over 1 day)
So , it sounds a bit weird for me......I really have no idea.
But anyway, thanks so much guys!

KarhU said:
They should work on demand - i.e. only when you run them by clicking the icon/exe. I am using these two apps for quite some time and never had such an experience you describe. Seems the culprit is something else in your case...
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Thanks, so which one should I run when I see the memory is dropping to a very low level?
Hibernate or closeapps?
It sounds closeapps has both hibernate and closeapps functions , hasn't it?

kinghung said:
Thanks, so which one should I run when I see the memory is dropping to a very low level?
Hibernate or closeapps?
It sounds closeapps has both hibernate and closeapps functions , hasn't it?
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Answer to your first question: I do it even more often...
I prefer Hibernate.
You are right Closeapps closes the running programs and has hibernate function included. If these apps do not work correctly for you you can use commercial or freeware version of SkTools (it also cleans RAM apart from tons of other functions or also commercial MemMaid - that will let you clean tweak everything connected with memory in your PDA.

Oxios CloseApps doesn't close apps. I don't know if it's because it doesn't work with WM6.1 but when I use it all my apps are still running. Have to use QuickMenu's "close all apps" mode.

Mutiple programs won't stay open on my Tilt 2

I've had my Tilt 2 for several weeks now and for some reason, I cannot seem to have more than one app open at the same time. As soon as I open a second program, it kills whatever else was running.
Does anyone else have this problem or know how to fix it? I have Auto Kill disabled...
Help!?

It also happens with my Hermes and Raphael..
My Hermes (Dopod 838 pro) running official WM6 ROM
My Raphael (HTC Touch Pro) running stock WM6.1 ROM (Version 1.9)
It's a big problem, I can't keep my Twitter,downloader, and Messenger app to run at the background..

silverfoxx said:
I've had my Tilt 2 for several weeks now and for some reason, I cannot seem to have more than one app open at the same time. As soon as I open a second program, it kills whatever else was running.
Does anyone else have this problem or know how to fix it? I have Auto Kill disabled...
Help!?
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So let's say you open File Explorer. You press the Windows button. Now you open Word Mobile and make a new document. Now press the Windows button and go to Home. It still says you closed everything in the HTC Task Manager?
If so, that's weird... looks like you bought yourself an iPhone with a keyboard!

For some unknown reason Windows Mobile 6.x will only run a maximum of 32 processes at one time no matter how much RAM is free. This includes all the basic phone etc that's running.
Clever eh ?
That's some amazing forward thinking Microsoft did. It obviously didn't occur to them that someone might come along and release a device with a faster processor and a load of RAM.
Find yourself a process manager program, not the HTC taskmanager. While typing this I had a quick look and I am running 28.

As I recall, WinMo will close apps if it runs low on memory so the first thing I would do is reboot the phone and bring up task manager and see how much free memory you have left. Then keep watching memory as you do what you normally do with the phone. It's not how WinMo is supposed to act by default and my phone doesn't act that way so it's either an app, how you use it or a hardware fault.

markgamber said:
As I recall, WinMo will close apps if it runs low on memory so the first thing I would do is reboot the phone and bring up task manager and see how much free memory you have left. Then keep watching memory as you do what you normally do with the phone. It's not how WinMo is supposed to act by default and my phone doesn't act that way so it's either an app, how you use it or a hardware fault.
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Lots of threads on this, and no, it's NOT memory. It's processes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=575663
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600210
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600356

Is there any solution to break this limit?
dik23 said:
For some unknown reason Windows Mobile 6.x will only run a maximum of 32 processes at one time no matter how much RAM is free. This includes all the basic phone etc that's running.
Clever eh ?
That's some amazing forward thinking Microsoft did. It obviously didn't occur to them that someone might come along and release a device with a faster processor and a load of RAM.
Find yourself a process manager program, not the HTC taskmanager. While typing this I had a quick look and I am running 28.
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Is there any solution to break this limit (32 processes)..

Not seen one. If you do plz give me a shout ! Don't even know if it'd be possible. To me it seems like it could be a Kernel level issue.

How can I see all running processes?

blowy666 said:
How can I see all running processes?
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install dotfred's taskmanager.

I use everapp.. http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...app-v0-2-application-persistence-under-wm6-x/
it installs a service which runs when u boot up ur phone and u just add w/e programs u want to everapp and it'll keep them running in the bg..great for opera 10 which never stays open for me

try everapp, http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...app-v0-2-application-persistence-under-wm6-x/

Hi i have tried on Omnia Pro B7610 to avoid auto-closing of apps but the result is not satisfactorie, as everapp is also stopped and besides i cant launch the app (excel or word) from the shorcut after the taskmanager autoclose these. If you have some usefull information regarding this issue i will appreciate it.

New tilt 2 owner. Have questions

Ive been a previous tilt owner for about 2 years and I just upgraded to the tilt 2. First thing I did was install spb mobile shell. I think its so much better then touchflo 3d. Im also using the kaiser tweaks. Ive never looked into using different ROM's. I think im nervous about installing something like that.
Ive noticed when leaving the phone on overnight (about 8 hours) it uses 10% battery life. The original tilt would use 1-2%. I dont have email set-up (ive heard that eats battery life), why is the phone using so much battery life?
There seems to be so much memory being used right when the phone turns on. About 113 megs. I feel like the phone runs pretty fast but I know it can run faster. Is using cooked ROM my only choice here?
I mainly use the phone for the internet and text messages. Im using opera mini 5. Is there any way delete opera mobile or is that integrated into the phone like internet explorer is? How can I make opera mini the "default" web browser?
I used the kaiser tweaks to enable HSPDA. Right after I did this, I noticed the "H" icon but after I restarted, it went away and hasnt come back? Any reason for this? I looked at the "tilt 2 data speed fix 1.0.cab" but when I goto start/settings/connections/advanced network there is no option to enable HSPDA. Only PAP and CHAP
How do I remove some of the programs on the phone that I never plan to use?
THANKS

Welcome aboard
I recommend installing a cooked ROM, it´s faster than any stock ROM and you will get rid of all garbage that slows your Rhodium.

bentz69 said:
How do I remove some of the programs on the phone that I never plan to use?
THANKS
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A lot of the programs on there (including the default opera install) are cooked into the stock ROM and are unremovable, unfortunately.
However, Crud Scraper will help clear out a lot of the stuff AT&T slipped in on top of the ROM. It won't get rid of everything you'll never use, but it can still clear a fair amount of space for you.

I'd like to add that it has been my experience, that frequent use of the internet does drain the battery much more quickly.
If you go cooked, choose your rom wisely. Some are configured more for business while others are more for fun.
I haven't done it myself, as I don't go online too much, but I have heard that sending your cache to your sd will help. Again, I haven't tried it myself, but Advanced Config (if my memory is right) does this, so does MemMaid.
Finally reclaim your ram throughout the day, shut down programs that may be running in the background, but that you are not currently using, and make minor adjustments and tweaks which will help you consume less resources, which will in turn help save your life.

Just downloaded MemMaid. Are any of these startup programs optional?
poutlook.lnk
BTTrayCE.lmk
MessageCSPTool.lnk
DelWMPTempFolder.lnk
HTCStartup.lnk
PKG.lnk
Is there any way to add Icons with shortcuts to spb mobile shell? Id like to make a youtube shortcut and even a MemMaid shortcut. All I see is "add widgets" but it doesnt allow and option to add my own

^Nevermind about the shortcut, I figured that out

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Just downloaded MemMaid. Are any of these startup programs optional?
poutlook.lnk
BTTrayCE.lmk
MessageCSPTool.lnk
DelWMPTempFolder.lnk
HTCStartup.lnk
PKG.lnk
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I do not have an answer, and welcome any chefs to address this, as I myself have wondered what things I can remove from startup!!

bentz69 said:
Just downloaded MemMaid. Are any of these startup programs optional?
poutlook.lnk
BTTrayCE.lmk
MessageCSPTool.lnk
DelWMPTempFolder.lnk
HTCStartup.lnk
PKG.lnk
Is there any way to add Icons with shortcuts to spb mobile shell? Id like to make a youtube shortcut and even a MemMaid shortcut. All I see is "add widgets" but it doesnt allow and option to add my own
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1) Needed for automatic download of e-mails.
2) Bluetooth support.
3) HTC messager.
4) Deletes WMP's temp (like it says in title)
5) Starts services that creates missing icons whatever.
6) Needed, won't recommend delete it.

Jackos said:
1) Needed for automatic download of e-mails.
2) Bluetooth support.
3) HTC messager.
4) Deletes WMP's temp (like it says in title)
5) Starts services that creates missing icons whatever.
6) Needed, won't recommend delete it.
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Thanks Jackos, and considering how awesome your roms have been I trust this info completely!! I appreciate you taking the time to clarify that for all of us non-chefs.
Could you please tell me what the following does, and is it safe to delete...
1-Instant Forward
2-ysrem
Thank you in advance.

You're welcome.
I don't have your shortcuts, so I assume they're from some installed programs.
From my experience you may delete all those shortcuts and the phone will boot anyway Just keep in mind that your programs may not work correctly if you delete too much

[REQUEST] Disable Windows Mobile Memory Management/Secure Apps from it

Dear experts,
Since I'm using custom Roms (with 6.5 or 6.5.x), I was asking myself why for god's sake my Browser was supposed to close in the background while I was downloading a big file or why my Windows Live Messenger is always being closed while I'm not having the focus on its window ...
Well I'm now at the point to know that Windows Mobile loves kicking Applications out of the RAM, especially when having a high memory consumption ... BUT why does it do this to apps that obviusly are supposed to be also running in the background (messenger) and also, why does it start closing applications even with more than 10% of my Ram left? I thought Ram was used to store programs in it, not to keep it empty and clean ...
So, is there ANY way to disable this "feature" that kills the possibility of multitasking? Or at least any chance to prevent Windows from always killing WLM and Opera? I already found "EverApp", but it doesn't work too nicely ... The added programs are still being closed and I cannot reopen then, as they are still present inside my memory ...
Thanks in advance!
Edit: And I totally wouldn't mind having the errors related to disabled memory management, as I have cleanram and a task manager to do that myself and would prefer it to have it that way

I am looking for a solution to this as well.
I am using an HD2 with 576MB enabled, and IMO it's unreasonable for WM (6.5.5) to close application ad libitum if I keep open:
1) tomtom
2) navicomputer
3) mortplayer
4) acr base (a background process that automatically record received and made calls)
With 576MB total ram, even with the memory taken by the OS, it's unlikely for the ram to be unsufficient to run these tasks at the same time... instead, it should be able to run at least other 2 application and have yet more to spare.
Asking the developer of the call recording software to make it into a service could be a way (and I already did), yet I cannot really have navicomputer made into a service, let alone mortplayer, and those got closed by WM as well while I was driving (imagine the trouble I had to go to start them again while holding the steering wheel, lucky me it was in a semi-traffic-jam).
Isn't there any setting to reduce the occurence of this behaviour? Has the page pool value have something to do with it in any way?
EDIT: just digged some more in the concept of pagepool. So I know what it is and how it works. Yet the mistery deepens, afailk the default pp on the leo is 15mb, some cooks set it to 22-24mb, yet very far from the ~270mb free program memory I get after boot... starting tomtom, navicomputer, mortplayer, and having acrbase in background amounts to less than 15MB of ram, go figure if it makes any sense that with 276mb starting free ram WM should close any of these apps... maybe it's all the other way, and I should have a bigger pagepool to accomodate all those applications at the same time?

pagepool is for system processes (i.e. inaccessible to you). increasing pagepool would only result in *less* memory available for your user processes, such as tomtom, navicomputer, etc.
unfortunately i have been looking for a solution to this problem for many months and it is, as far as I can tell, impossible to solve. this is, imho, the worst thing about windows mobile. they did not correctly design the core operating system and created this ugly, ugly hack to prevent the system from crashing when it runs out of memory, and as a side effect it closes your programs without saving any of their data.
an equally ugly workaround is to use XTask, and "hide" the processes that you do not want closed. you see, if they are not visible in task manager, then windows mobile does not auto-close them. they are still running and in the process list, just not the task manager list. in order to hide a process in xtask, you open up the task manager list, long-press on the task you wish to hide, and go to Other->Hide. In order to make a process visible again, you have to find it in the Process list, click on it to view its windows, and long-press on the main window of that process and choose Show. You have to do this very quickly because windows closes background tasks and not the active task, so when you open XTask, it becomes the active task and the one you are trying to hide becomes backgrounded. you have about 5 seconds to hide it before it closes. its a very convoluted process but it works. i can get my music started in kinoma, hide the task, and then open up Garmin. As long as garmin stays in the foreground everything can rock along indefinitely.

Yes, that's sounds literally obnoxious, a workaround which would be just right for a setup with an htc alpine running wm 6.5 maybe... absolutely not acceptable for devices such as rhodium or leo which have plent of resources.
I stillw onder though, I have no idea about total/free resources on tpro2, yet with ~280MB free ram, and only 15mb worth of applications in ram loaded subsequently, how can windows mobile "decide" it needs to close either one of them?
I'd like to think it was just something weird going on with that particular session, that maybe got solved after a reboot, yet I have mno way to confirm it, as I didn't need to load the same amount of applications since then

I actually have the opposite problem on my HD2 running Miri's roms -apps don't close themselves down at all most of the time, which means when I have about 5 "windows" worth of programs open (ignoring other stuff I have running as a processes), or 1 Opera Mobile 10 window my HD2 starts behaving weird and gives me errors everytime I try to start up another app unless I shutdown said memory intensive app.
Might be because I use Ameba to close down any apps I'm not using (always)... or maybe because I've set the glyph cache to 524kb like suggested in the HD2 tweak article on Pocketnow.

ephestione said:
Yes, that's sounds literally obnoxious, a workaround which would be just right for a setup with an htc alpine running wm 6.5 maybe... absolutely not acceptable for devices such as rhodium or leo which have plent of resources.
I stillw onder though, I have no idea about total/free resources on tpro2, yet with ~280MB free ram, and only 15mb worth of applications in ram loaded subsequently, how can windows mobile "decide" it needs to close either one of them?
I'd like to think it was just something weird going on with that particular session, that maybe got solved after a reboot, yet I have mno way to confirm it, as I didn't need to load the same amount of applications since then
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The storage manager doesn't necessarily decide to close things based on free program memory (of which you clearly have a ton), but also based on free virtual memory. You only get 32 MB per process, and if you load a bunch of dll's for resource heavy applications, you can run low on virtual memory. This is a good read on the issue. You can run virtualmemory.exe with some of your apps running to see if this is the problem.

def bookmarking this thread! i had similar questions!

aussiebum said:
I actually have the opposite problem on my HD2 running Miri's roms -apps don't close themselves down at all most of the time, which means when I have about 5 "windows" worth of programs open (ignoring other stuff I have running as a processes), or 1 Opera Mobile 10 window my HD2 starts behaving weird and gives me errors everytime I try to start up another app unless I shutdown said memory intensive app.
Might be because I use Ameba to close down any apps I'm not using (always)... or maybe because I've set the glyph cache to 524kb like suggested in the HD2 tweak article on Pocketnow.
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I'd actually LOVE to have your same "problem"
Since WM is all about "having control", at least more than what you get with other "commercial" phones, I would prefer very much to decide which apps to keep open, which ones to *manually* close to free resources.
Just like I do with my desktop pc (did, actually... since 4GB of ram are truly hard, for my use, to fill up to the critical point even starting a ton of programs at the same time)
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The storage manager doesn't necessarily decide to close things based on free program memory (of which you clearly have a ton), but also based on free virtual memory. You only get 32 MB per process, and if you load a bunch of dll's for resource heavy applications, you can run low on virtual memory. This is a good read on the issue. You can run virtualmemory.exe with some of your apps running to see if this is the problem.
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thank you for the enlightening reference, I was actually curious to know the real reason behind this!
EDIT: (some minutes later) really interesting read, even without the need to dive into the huge two-page article linked from that page. Now at least I *know* the cause of this, and regarding this Leo I feel like having bought a ferrari which can only be fueled with a second grade combustive which can only output 50HP when in reality the engine is capable of 200. Something which is the contrary of what I was expecting from a WM device when compared to its fashion and more commercial equivalent so dear to some.
Which leads me to be curious about aussiebum's situation, where instead he appears to be able to keep opening programs without any automatic-close behaviours. It may still very well be that in the occasion where I had autoclosing problems with only a handful of apps open and running, there was something gone wrong that was solved with a reboot, I have yet to find the time and willingness to recreate the setup

so there wont be any solution for this quite anoying bug/feature?
-.-

HD2
I have a stock TMOUS HD2 and it seems to have a max open programs set to 7 somewhere and it doesnt matter how memory intensive the program is. it does get mighty slow though!

Have any of you tried AutoClosePatch ? I made that for a similar problem on the Omnia II, I have heard of people using it on the HD2 with success (i.e., it being useful). I've never really run into this problem on the HD2 itself, though.
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/68/AutoClosePatch_1_1_released/

Chainfire said:
Have any of you tried AutoClosePatch ? I made that for a similar problem on the Omnia II, I have heard of people using it on the HD2 with success (i.e., it being useful). I've never really run into this problem on the HD2 itself, though.
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/68/AutoClosePatch_1_1_released/
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Thank you for pointing us to yet another pearl of usefulness of your code
I will test it and I think I should be able to report the result in at least a week.
If the 15MB lower limit and 20MB upper limit do work on Leo as well, I think I will be able to start more applications together than I will ever need
EDIT: didn't make my leo explode, yet it didn't have the desired effect, alas. I could apparently keep starting apps one after another, then at a certain point I always got a system error notification about not being there enough free ram, and that for anything I tried starting no matter what it was, not even WM task manager. Even if I tried bringing back on top the already started apps by clicking on their icons gave the same error.
I uninstalled, restarted, and tried without it, and set battclock showing the free MBs of ram available. Well, after boot I have 270MB free, believe me or not I couldn't get lower than 214MB free, it kept closing down applications. That is just plain, utterly, abominously, scandalously STUPID.

Chainfire said:
Have any of you tried AutoClosePatch ? I made that for a similar problem on the Omnia II, I have heard of people using it on the HD2 with success (i.e., it being useful). I've never really run into this problem on the HD2 itself, though.
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/68/AutoClosePatch_1_1_released/
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Gonna try this to...hope with more sucess.
>edit< ....unbelievable. IT WORKS...was searching months for a working app/tweak. Thanks chainfire...Donation is coming (=
--> 6MC52681G3154311A

I might have managed to get my HTC HD2 from closing my application. I have downloaded Advanced Configuration Tool There is a section in this application called HTC Task Manager. In there I disabled Auto Kill. Only time will tell I guess.

Davearia said:
I might have managed to get my HTC HD2 from closing my application. I have downloaded Advanced Configuration Tool There is a section in this application called HTC Task Manager. In there I disabled Auto Kill. Only time will tell I guess.
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Restored a backup, to ensure that chainfires tweaks arent present.
Ure way didn't work for me.
After the 6th and 7th opend app, taskfacade & than s2p closes.

Test that:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\LowMem]
"ProgramMem"=dword:0

j4n87 said:
Gonna try this to...hope with more sucess.
>edit< ....unbelievable. IT WORKS
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dang, you were luckier than me.
How did you test it exactly? Up until what free ram amount could you go to?
As I said in my previous post, I can apparently open as many apps as I want until the point I get the system insufficient memory error, and once there I cannot start anything at all, not even a task manager

Ham3r said:
Test that:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\LowMem]
"ProgramMem"=dword:0
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I don't even have that key... so I suppose it's not for leo's purpose

Well, you have to keep in mind, AutoClosePatch only helps when the problem is actually the free memory.
An explanation what may also be going on is here: http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000...ying-the-virtual-memory-monster/#entry1250151
What is comes down to is that the _virtual_ memory management may run into "no available memory" even though there is more than enough _actual_ memory available, and can be dependant on the amount of DLLs and executables loaded. It is a tricky subject to fully understand, but there are a myriad of reasons why this error can occur (and AutoClosePatch only fixes one, that nevertheless is often the problem). Most of these "other" reasons are due to how WM (or our base version of CE, rather) is built. Most of these issues are fixed in later versions, of course (we are now two revisions of CE farther), but unfortunately we won't see that until WP7, which, well....

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Well, you have to keep in mind, AutoClosePatch only helps when the problem is actually the free memory.
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whoops, yes, silly me; thanks for reminding me of that fact, I actually have delved a little into the problem of 32mb virtual memory limit under CE 5 core, which alas is the base for 6.5.x as well (and which is a different matter than "free ram"), and for an optimistic while I thought your utility could overcome that, forgetting you clearly stated in your blog that it addresses only the free physical ram issue.
But since I get auto-closing problems starting from more than 210MB *free* ram, it's definitely a virtual memory issue, so technically your patch doesn't interfere with that.