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Magic/ION/Google ROM on the Hero!

Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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My phone is rooted now with Modaco / CyanogenMod v1.4 + JF.

sonny88 said:
Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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My phone is rooted now with Modaco / CyanogenMod v1.4 + JF.
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I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)

deeren said:
I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)
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To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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Please people, i don't want to be a jerk, but don't come up with questions like "Why did you buy a hero then?" ..

sonny88 said:
To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
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I'm on the same boat. When I bought my hero I hadn't really seen any working Android phone, either stock or HTC. Now that I have seen both I think that the stock apps and interface are somehow saner than HTC's, and what can I say? I'd prefer to use them.

Why don't you run the Rosie remover. It will get you part of the way to where you want to go

Indeed! but I also prefer the stock browser, the stock music player, the stock calendar, the stock contact list and dialer... and so on. They look less flashy but handier to my taste.

I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.

Actually, why do magic roms not work with the hero? What kind of modification would you have to do for them to work?

Fredriksen said:
I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.
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I think that the hero rom is not like the win rom. i mean all the htc customisations superimposed on the windows ones. There, all we had to do was just to remove the htc ones and we automatically got the windows ones.
I guess android's different. we have to remove all the htc customisations and add android's ones. Problem is hero never had the android's applications. what could be done is take a magic rom, remove all the applications and try to port them to the hero.
Problems would definetely arise cause the 2 phones are not 100% identical. some software work on the magic but not on hero bla bla bla.

I know some stock apps do work with the hero. I have been able to use the stock calendar and browser in my hero by replacing the apk and odex files, however replacing the contacts app makes it hang.
We could try to make a list of what apps can be replaced and how, or maybe even make update.zip files specific for that, similar to modaco's rosie remover. How difficult would that be?

sonny88 said:
The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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I think that you'll probably find that the difference here is that chefs with a Magic or G1 actively want to "upgrade" to the latest and greatest ROMs. So, when presented with a Hero ROM, they will make the effort to back port it to the hardware they have.
The situation with the Hero is a little different. Here we already have the "latest and greatest", so there is probably very little motivation for a chef to port what is essentially an earlier ROM to the Hero. What you need to find is a chef who has a Hero, who either wants to run stock android, or is interesting in the intellectual challenge!
So, it's not really the case that "the magic can almost run any rom" - it's that their are chefs with Magics who are building these ROMs.
Regards,
Dave

Thanks guys!
I knew i wasn't the only one who wanted a clean vanilla android rom on the hero. Like frandavid100 said before, till there's another "magic rom" or something, we could make a list of apps working on hero.
I've had the same thing with the Contacts.app. This makes the phone freeze, and after removing the battery it constantly reboots.
If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.

sonny88 said:
If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.
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Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE

frandavid100 said:
Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE
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I will do that tomorrow ok? I live in The Netherlands and its 09.35pm and i'm watching a movie
BTW: I also have a stock Magic/ION image. I can extract the apps from there as well. Tomorrow i'll try some apps.
Thanks for the effort guys!

Just another quick post. Below you'll see a list of apps which i'm going to try tomorrow. Please post request apps if i forget one.
- Contacts (probably doesn't work)
- Phone (unknown - probably same as contacts)
- Browser (probably works)
- Music Player (probably works)
- Messages/sms?
- Camera (unknown)
- Albums (probably no multitouch)
- Camcorder (don't know if this one is available)
- Calender (probably works)
- Calculator (unknown)
- Clock (don't know if this one is available)
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BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!

Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).

frandavid100 said:
Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).
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I am sorry.. i'm at my girlfriend and don't have my laptop with me tomorrow i'll post some links to different roms we can work with. But i can assure you they won't work on the hero.
Im also going to try to port the sapphire keyboard to the hero. Don't know if someone already did this, i haven't used google yet.

Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!

frandavid100 said:
Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!
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haha ok lol
I'm going to work on that list now.. wish me luck

sonny88 said:
BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!
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Or you can just use the HTC lockscreen and press menu twice!
Regards,
Dave

[Q] Hibernate option on non "HD" roms?

Is it possible to get a regular sense rom to have the Hibernate option ("3 sec boot")? Not asking for someone to do it, just want to know if it would be possible.

g00s3y said:
Is it possible to get a regular sense rom to have the Hibernate option ("3 sec boot")? Not asking for someone to do it, just want to know if it would be possible.
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it may be possible
but im guessing it is deep inside the programing and not just a simple move a few files type of thing.you would probably have to cook a rom from scratch and incorporate that into it.
but i am not a rom developer so i may be wrong.
you should talk to incredibledoes or skyraider they are the ones working on the
desire hd roms for incredible.
they would be able to tell you if its easy or not.

[Q] Does android run bugless on touch pro?

Im sorry if this was asked but i'm on CSD internet connection.
so: can i run android (froyo preferably) on my touch pro without bugs? or what are the things that do not work on it?

broucker said:
Im sorry if this was asked but i'm on CSD internet connection.
so: can i run android (froyo preferably) on my touch pro without bugs? or what are the things that do not work on it?
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Without bugs? No software is without bugs. With that said, there are many 'non-working' things. Read the main thread, it's got all these words that will answer this question. First 4 posts are great, after that the search feature works wonders.
Also, what happened to trying it out? This is for fun/testing, it's not meant to replace WinMo. So if that's what you're looking for (WinMo replacement) I'd look elsewhere. Like a new phone

broucker said:
Im sorry if this was asked but i'm on CSD internet connection.
so: can i run android (froyo preferably) on my touch pro without bugs? or what are the things that do not work on it?
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"Bugless" is preference, IMO. Sure it runs on my Fuze as long as I stay within the guideliness from the link mentioned in the previous post. If you are looking for benchmarks, you might be better off with a device that actually comes with Android (also IMHO).
By the way what are you attempting to do with this?

Use it as my primary OS. i'm willing to sacrifice the camera for it.

broucker said:
Use it as my primary OS. i'm willing to sacrifice the camera for it.
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There's a lot of other little quirks, I wouldn't use it as your primary OS - unless your phone isn't used as a phone of course
Most of the problems people truly have usually are related to the phone sleeping and missing calls, or rebooting in a call etc. Stuff that's mission-critical so-to-speak - I know some that use the phone completely unactivated and love Android full time. There's also some I know that have the phone activated and just don't care and use it all the time.
I'd say for most 'normal' people, it's not ready to use full time as your primary OS. But as with anything tech-related - try it for yourself! Don't let my opinion make your decision, only you will be able to tell. That's the greatest thing about this whole project, doesn't damage the phone, no need to flash anything... Try before you buy, except it's free anyways

welll I had it!
When i bought the phone (secound hand or third ) it had it installed already. It was froyo. I playd with it until it crashed! I had several runs until someday when i noticed that sounds ain't working no more. why? don't know.
nevermind...
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I have another problem @ wich i don't find help.
I'm trying to dump the ROM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427507&page=22 here but I get this error. can someone help me?

broucker said:
When i bought the phone (secound hand or third ) it had it installed already. It was froyo. I playd with it until it crashed! I had several runs until someday when i noticed that sounds ain't working no more. why? don't know.
nevermind...
OFFTOPIC:
I have another problem @ wich i don't find help.
I'm trying to dump the ROM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427507&page=22 here but I get this error. can someone help me?
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Hmmm... Have you tried THIS yet?

no!
R^7Z said:
Hmmm... Have you tried THIS yet?
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but what is it?!

broucker said:
but what is it?!
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It's a lite WinMo ROM that auto loads Haret from SD card the author is MichyPrima
As mentioned in THIS post. In my opinion, the closest that RAPH has been reported to run from nand. Keeping in mind this doesn't actually run from nand.
Just wondering if you tried it or not...

wildfireS&desireS dumps?

has anyone tried to use these to update to sense 2.1? Or is this even possible to use on the EVO because its cdma?

um not being bitter; but TECHNICALLY wrong thread....
but there is ONE rom but its so incomplete you may hate it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796710
it has vital functions working but i dont know who can live without sound....

s0xpan said:
um not being bitter; but TECHNICALLY wrong thread....
but there is ONE rom but its so incomplete you may hate it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796710
it has vital functions working but i dont know who can live without sound....
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Ive looked at this ROM before. It isn't sense 2.1 the desire hd has 2.0

[Q] Paying for the Custom ROM??

Hi,
I was gifted the Sony Ericsson Arc as a replacement for my current phone the HTC Desire. After using the HTC Desire for the last 1 year , I am finding it very difficult to get used to the Sony Ericsson UI (problems like : no smart dialer, the contacts are all messed up,all the text size is huge, the randomly flickering display etc..).
I was wondering whether there is anyone or any place I can pay money to create a custom ROM. When I say custom ROM I dont mean Cyanogen or others like that (I mean the stock ROM with the proper replacements for dialer,contacts editor, facebook integration etc..) , I just want a ROM on my phone which will look and feel like the HTC Sense UI (again I am not asking for the actual Sense UI, as I understand thats impossible).
Thanks.
Any help is appreciated.

Tenken said:
Hi,
I was gifted the Sony Ericsson Arc as a replacement for my current phone the HTC Desire. After using the HTC Desire for the last 1 year , I am finding it very difficult to get used to the Sony Ericsson UI (problems like : no smart dialer, the contacts are all messed up,all the text size is huge, the randomly flickering display etc..).
I was wondering whether there is anyone or any place I can pay money to create a custom ROM. When I say custom ROM I dont mean Cyanogen or others like that (I mean the stock ROM with the proper replacements for dialer,contacts editor, facebook integration etc..) , I just want a ROM on my phone which will look and feel like the HTC Sense UI (again I am not asking for the actual Sense UI, as I understand thats impossible).
Thanks.
Any help is appreciated.
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You understand the HTC apps require the sence framework, so they will not work on the arc, there are many other dialer and contacts replacements, you can download from the market, Go dialer and contacts for example is excellent

The makers of TouchPal Keyboard have a smart dialer app called TouchPal Dialer. Haven't tried it out but it's available for free on the market.
The android 2.3.3 update brought Facebook integration to the xperia range.

How does relate to my post?
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The makers of TouchPal Keyboard have a smart dialer app called TouchPal Dialer. Haven't tried it out but it's available for free on the market.
The android 2.3.3 update brought Facebook integration to the xperia range.
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Thanks for the reply, but I don't know how this relates to this my post.

Thanks!!
AndroHero said:
You understand the HTC apps require the sence framework, so they will not work on the arc, there are many other dialer and contacts replacements, you can download from the market, Go dialer and contacts for example is excellent
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Thanks for the info.

Sorry, I should have explained. You wanted a custom ROM basically a stock ROM but a replacement for the dialer, right? I was just pointing out an app using which you could replace the stock dialer (and which supported smart dialing).
Facebook integration was another aspect you mentioned.
xboxfanj posted a thread by which you could the Sense 3.0 Lockscreen using Agile Lock. You can find it here.
EDIT: Sorry, I misread your post. I thought you wanted a stock arc ROM with the necessary changes; not the HTC ROM. Ooops!
But hey, I got the Sense 3.0 Lockscreen part right. LOL!

Blagus is working on a HTC Sense port for Xperia Play http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174309 once he starts the work it maybe matter of time once we get it for Arc since both are almost similar. If your talking about hiring someone then talk to one of the developers who are willing to accept the offer.

xtacy! said:
Sorry, I should have explained. You wanted a custom ROM basically a stock ROM but a replacement for the dialer, right? I was just pointing out an app using which you could replace the stock dialer (and which supported smart dialing).
Facebook integration was another aspect you mentioned.
xboxfanj posted a thread by which you could the Sense 3.0 Lockscreen using Agile Lock. You can find it here.
EDIT: Sorry, I misread your post. I thought you wanted a stock arc ROM with the necessary changes; not the HTC ROM. Ooops!
But hey, I got the Sense 3.0 Lockscreen part right. LOL!
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Now this reply really helped. Thanks.

ShyamSasi said:
Blagus is working on a HTC Sense port for Xperia Play http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174309 once he starts the work it maybe matter of time once we get it for Arc since both are almost similar. If your talking about hiring someone then talk to one of the developers who are willing to accept the offer.
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Well that's kind of the problem, I don't know which developer to ask. I can't do a post in the Sony Arc Development sub forum, cause the rules say I can't post Q&A queries in the forums. Is there any one I can ask or PM to find out how to build this custom ROM ??

As anyone else can tell you, a custom rom for the arc maybe a while before all the functions are workable, the camera is the problem, so maybe do as others have suggested and use third party apps to get the experience your after
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The main problem with custom ROM is going to be Camera function because Arc has the latest Camera technology they haven't released the drivers or source for it so developers can make it work on custom ROM. So we have to wait until someone manage to port one so others can use it.

wallimo said:
As anyone else can tell you, a custom rom for the arc maybe a while before all the functions are workable, the camera is the problem, so maybe do as others have suggested and use third party apps to get the experience your after
Sent from my LT15i using XDA App
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Thanks for the reply.
However I have explained in my first post that the kind of custom ROM I am asking is based on the stock ROM with appropriate replacements for the dailer,contacts,facebook integration,text size etc... Basically I want to simulate a Sense UI.

Perhaps a theme could you help you out for the time being till someone makes a custom ROM for you? At least you should be able to get similar icons, background wallpaper etc.