This is one of those problems that was always there but wasn't big enough for me to remember to comment about. Now it became big enough.
I was at a wedding over the weekend. Priest comes in before the service starts, remind people of a few ground rules and remembering to turn off mobiles. I had my phone on a meeting profile (basically something from my Nokia days - a very quiet beep for notifications and no vibrate) but I thought, what the hell, let me just turn it off completely.
So I did. Phone off. To the inside jacket pocket it went.
Wedding service starts. Bride comes in. Everyone sits. To my embarassment, on sitting I hear the Quietly Brilliant intro jingle. I'm think a combination of WTF and "Oh for **** sake!"
The Desire is waaaay too easy to turn on! It should definitely be a long press to turn it on not a regular tap which can happen at any time. I ended up putting it back on my meeting profile as that was a safer way to keep it quiet. This shouldn't have to happen.
I've thought that too. Fortunately not had any issues like that but do agree. I think this will be fixed when silicon cases get here in abundance!
It annoys the hell out of me too.
If you turn the phone off in silent mode then you don't get it when you turn back on but you need to remember to do that,
I think there is an app that does this automatically - sure someone will post the name of it...
Silent Boot is the answer to your problem.
please stop, this got to be the most stupid post i ever seen on any forums....
a phone thats to easy to start, ROOOOOOOOOOOOOFL
would've been easier to leave it on silent than turn it off...
CerB said:
please stop, this got to be the most stupid post i ever seen on any forums....
a phone thats to easy to start, ROOOOOOOOOOOOOFL
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Hhmmm. Deliberately misunderstanding the point of the OP topic? I read this and sympathised, have had a few instances myself when phones have turned on in awkward situations myself.
Appreciated the answer. Have installed Silent Boot and am less worried I might get caught out in future.
As to the last posters comments - why waste your time and ours if you are not interested in the thread? maybe you just like reviewing form threads... if that's the case allow me to rebirth your post.
"sucks"
CerB said:
please stop, this got to be the most stupid post i ever seen on any forums....
a phone thats to easy to start, ROOOOOOOOOOOOOFL
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I was tempted to simply diss this individual but let me just politely respond.
1. If this is the most stupid post you have ever seen, then feel happy you only read post written by like-minded people.
2. It would also seem that like-minded people to CerB would believe that design concerns like turning on and off a device are non-concerns. In the current market, let's be honest, there is a huge amount of overlap in smartphone function. And Apple have shown that even selling a sub-par phone can be successfull when you do things like make a "tiny" thing like how the phone transitions from screen to screen a pleasure.
I'm guessing if you CerB were a boss, and someone came to you to spend time making screen transitions really slick, you would have sacked them.
3. What exactly is "ROOOOOOOOOOOOOFL"? I understand ROFL, but not what you put.
As zzleezz indicated, there was really no need for your post, or the tone. But, like I seek to get on these forums, maybe you can get educated.
Maybe ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOFL was him falling down the stairs?? lol!!
download the mute app off the market.. mutes everything.. in one touch, also if its activated and you turn your phone off when it reboots it does not make the startup sound. not perfect but an easy workaround.
Karolis said:
Silent Boot is the answer to your problem.
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Excellent find!
guys i installed silent boot too but i HAVEN'T activated itand it does the job. when i turn the phone off it gets muted and when it turns on it does not make the startup sound...is this a bug or this is how it sould work ?
lambrospower said:
guys i installed silent boot too but i HAVEN'T activated itand it does the job. when i turn the phone off it gets muted and when it turns on it does not make the startup sound...is this a bug or this is how it sould work ?
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That's how it should work.
However, I don't think that this solves the topic starter's problem completely. Silent Boot will mute the bootup sound but, since your phone is on, you will get notifications of other events such as text messages, as Silent Boot will turn up the volume again after boot (although that might happen only if the volume was turned up before shutting down). So, you might still disturb wedding ceremonies with those notifications.
I had a Hero beore Desire, and find it quite annoying that they decided to place the powerbutton on top of the phone. When I put the phone in my jeans pocket, or when I take it out, it turns on the screen and I have found it to starting apps and all kinds. On the Hero the powerbutton was much better placed, imo. Not quite the same thing as OP, but related to the powerbutton, and how easy it is to accidentaly push it.
Only issue with SilentBoot is that it restores your previous settings after boot, so your phone can turn on silently without you knowing, then your awesome ringtone can steal the show instead of the boot music.
That works around the sound, but not the issue of the phone being very easy to turn on. The button placement is pretty bad to start with, and isn't recessed, so is very easy to press accidentally. I had mine turn on on a plane - cue lots of "there's always one" glances from nearby passengers... I wonder if this is something that could be tweaked somehow if there is some flash setting for a dwell time on the power button.
Cleargrey said:
This is one of those problems that was always there but wasn't big enough for me to remember to comment about. Now it became big enough.
I was at a wedding over the weekend. Priest comes in before the service starts, remind people of a few ground rules and remembering to turn off mobiles. I had my phone on a meeting profile (basically something from my Nokia days - a very quiet beep for notifications and no vibrate) but I thought, what the hell, let me just turn it off completely.
So I did. Phone off. To the inside jacket pocket it went.
Wedding service starts. Bride comes in. Everyone sits. To my embarassment, on sitting I hear the Quietly Brilliant intro jingle. I'm think a combination of WTF and "Oh for **** sake!"
The Desire is waaaay too easy to turn on! It should definitely be a long press to turn it on not a regular tap which can happen at any time. I ended up putting it back on my meeting profile as that was a safer way to keep it quiet. This shouldn't have to happen.
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I hav had the almost esact same problem! quite embarising at times
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I hear these AT&T commercials talking about this feature, my verizon TP2 does not do that. The speaker phone button on the back does not do anything either. Is it a setting?
In my stock HTC TP2, in Phone settings (Windows Mobile's, not TouchFlo's), last tab (should be "Advanced"). There's an option that said "when the phone is facing down during a call, use loudspeaker". Check if your phone has this setting?
I don't get all these modifications by providers... in Hongkong phones are sold as is, even when bundled to a certain provider's plan. Many of those modifications aren't really improvements either...
My AT&T Tilt 2 stock rom does this by default!
Cool little feature!!!
not to hijack the thread or anything, but im having the same problem except with the t-mobile version. when its flipped, the mute button lights up but the speaker doesnt activate. the windows option is checked. i messed with some registry settings to enable two way recording (didnt work btw). but that cant be the problem as my brother is having the same problem with his unmodified tmo tp2. his option is checked too.
any ideas?
bump bump, anyone know whats wrong?
Do you have ANY sound? I was using Resco Audio Recorder and I couldn't use the speakerphone when it was working either.. I uninstalled it and no problems since.
i turned this off. it came on once when i was on the couch and it was loud near my ear and freaked me the f out.
I posted about this about a week ago, my solution was to get a new one.
My new one has about 75 dead pixels, so it's going back too.
I'm not satisfied with the build quality at this point...
the speaker does work... when you click the speaker button once in a call. it's just that it doesn't automatically do that when turned over in the call. only the mute button lights up green.
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nevermind, it works now. i read this on your thread.
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I'd say that unless you've been setting it down on an uneven surface -- or not actually setting down at all as the other guy suggests-- there must be something wrong with your phone.
There's no setting/configuration that would cause the inconsistent erratic behavior you describe -- going on then off, vibrating, etc -- if it's setting on a flat table-top or similar.
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apparently i wasn't lying it evenly face down. i was trying it on the couch so that doesn't help. i layed it evenly this time and it vibrated and the speaker went on. then i did a couple of other tests at angles and sure enough you have to have it evenly face down. at one angle, i had it vibrating like a maniac because it thought it was even and then uneven.
problem solved!
You have to make sure it is even on the surface. Also doing a g-sensor calibration may help as well.
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you have to make sure it is even on the surface. Also doing a g-sensor calibration may help as well.
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cheers mate! Workd :d:d
I think I may have stumbled onto a solution to our dreaded quiet phone that doesnt notify us of a SMS or MMS and possibly email when the phone goes to sleep or standby. I have searched asked inquired, and beat every search engine and found absolutely nothing. So being frustrated of seeing msgs pop up when I hit the power button to wake the phone up I went hunting and I think I found it. I tested this all of today and so far I havent missed one yet, and normally I miss at least 3 a day. Its still in a testing phase so I DONT guarantee this works, but with some feedback with others, it might be the solution. I did alot of comparing with my other phones and my 8125 and 8525 had a different value so i changed it to that value.
I have made it a cab file so that anyone who wants to try it can uninstall it if it doesnt work, I suggest a soft reset after making this change. This changes the following location:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL]
"DisableSMSWakeUpEvent"=dword:00000001
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL]
"DisableSMSWakeUpEvent"=dword:00000000
Good Luck! And if it works or doesnt, please leave feedback of either thanx or didnt work, like I said so far its working on my att tilt 2 stock eu rom 1.86
Nice one, but its already been solved here.
crachel said:
Nice one, but its already been solved here.
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Well at least its here, I know there is a ton of posts going around in here about this problem, and I did munerous searches, but obviously if you dont get the right keyword you'll never find the post.
so what does this do? light the screen up everytime there is a message? or basically just solve the problem of message not ringing in sleep mode?
Basically it does the same thing it did with the 8125 and the 8525 when a msg comes in the screen wakes up from sleep, so far (I thought) I might have found a solution, but it seems I was beaten to it.
So far there isnt a solution found yet of the alert coming thru without lighting the screen up as far as I know.
yea, i thought it lights up the screen when msg comes. I have a habit of putting the phone to sleep without locking it, so it might cause problem when i put it in my pocket as i receive message more than calls.
Thanks anyway mate
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yea, i thought it lights up the screen when msg comes. I have a habit of putting the phone to sleep without locking it, so it might cause problem when i put it in my pocket as i receive message more than calls.
Thanks anyway mate
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Yeah but if you have the end key setup as a long hold it will lock the screen to prevent that accidential tapping of the screen. Unless you have a modded rom then you would have to see what key it is. But hey for me its better then missing a msg.
Hi AngelDeath,
Just wanted to say thx for this one -I realise this thread is old, but it's sorted my no sms alert issue on my HD2. It had been driving me nuts for ages!
Hi... it's me agian... with my new Omnia 7... is there a way to have both the ringtone and vibration going on at the same time?... sorry for my english,.. i'll try to explain it better: right now when someone calls me the vibration starts for few seconds, then stops and the ringtone starts (without vibration).
Is there a way to have them both forever and ever (happily ever after)???
at present, no. maybe best to bring this up on social.microsoft.com, or check there to see if someone has already asked (as i think it has been asked here before as well).
I'm a bit disappointed right now...
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I'm a bit disappointed right now...
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Has it made you miss any calls, that's the important thing. Personally I've not missed any.
Jim Coleman said:
Has it made you miss any calls, that's the important thing. Personally I've not missed any.
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As a matter of fact, it has indeed! When I'm in a loud area and my phone is in pocket, I can't feel the vibration because it's too short and the sound because of the loudness.. You will say:"keep it in vibration mode" but then I would have to replay " I spent 500€ for this thing I'd like it to do at least the basics"... Then you would say: "why did you buy it in the first place, then?!.." ...and we will go on and on and on.... :-D
So after the screen goes off, the wifi automatically goes to sleep hence making those apps which can send toast/tile notifications like Flory and various twitter apps practically useless. Any work around?
Keep it plugged in.
Um...you just realized that? It puts wifi on standby (basically turns it off) when it goes to sleep, unless you are charging, in which case, the wifi remains connected. Data, on the other hand, does not have this problem, and will persist, despite the phone going to sleep/lockscreen.
I would also like a workaround for this... I don't own a data plan, and I'm pretty much always near some wifi connection...
thanks!
There is no work around. It is a 'feature' by design so that you won't ended up with a battery drained phone. Your only hope is complain loudly to Microsoft.
foxbat121 said:
There is no work around. It is a 'feature' by design so that you won't ended up with a battery drained phone. Your only hope is complain loudly to Microsoft.
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As usual with WP7, MS is taking "don't give a choice to the user" approach... I hope this and other small things get fixed sooner or later... like the stupid camera shutter sound!
kapanak said:
Um...you just realized that? It puts wifi on standby (basically turns it off) when it goes to sleep, unless you are charging, in which case, the wifi remains connected. Data, on the other hand, does not have this problem, and will persist, despite the phone going to sleep/lockscreen.
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Well if you're connected to WiFi but its in sleep mode, data doesnt just turn on. It will for some things, but I found out that for some games that have push notifications, they just dont happen in that situation. The 3g stays sleeping with the WiFi. I only get emails in this situation.
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As usual with WP7, MS is taking "don't give a choice to the user" approach... I hope this and other small things get fixed sooner or later... like the stupid camera shutter sound!
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I thought the shutter sound was become of some law saying you have to have it on. Weird thing though, that law ain't in the US...I read that sht on cracked where they were talking about countries saying you have to leave the shutter sound on and that's to prevent people from getting away with sticking their phone under a girls skirt and taking a picture. Normally I'd be like "man, cracked is just making stuff up again" but I've been following that site for 3 years and read everything and can tell the joke articles from the legit ones.
And they probably dont have that many options because they dont want to see a lot of people complaining about battery life. Because if you google anything android related, you'll get a bunch of battery life threads and complaint. so they are just defaulting settings that offer the best battery life and they are getting rid of the option to change those settings. that way nobody can post a bunch of threads complaining about battery life and by that not happening, when you search anything windows mobile related you'll see more threads about its features than bad battery life.
And yes, if WiFi never slept, it would be using more power than the disconnected 3G option it defaults to.
having wifi turn off automatically completely defeats the purpose of background notifications for apps like twitter/facebook or any other IM since there wont be any wifi connection for them to use if the phone is in sleep mode. Not everyone has unlimited cellular data. This is just really stupid.
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having wifi turn off automatically completely defeats the purpose of background notifications for apps like twitter/facebook or any other IM since there wont be any wifi connection for them to use if the phone is in sleep mode. Not everyone has unlimited cellular data. This is just really stupid.
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If those background notification use that much of data, they are not designed properly. For comparison, my son's Focus is on 200mb/month data plan and he never exceeds the data limit.
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maybe they should have an option to change it - but it should default to the current settings as only a handfull of people won't have a data plan.
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I thought the shutter sound was become of some law saying you have to have it on. Weird thing though, that law ain't in the US...I read that sht on cracked where they were talking about countries saying you have to leave the shutter sound on and that's to prevent people from getting away with sticking their phone under a girls skirt and taking a picture. Normally I'd be like "man, cracked is just making stuff up again" but I've been following that site for 3 years and read everything and can tell the joke articles from the legit ones.
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Wow, that's just weird. How come so many compact digital cameras can have the shutter sound removed then? It doesn't really make sense... anyway, I saw in the Reg Tricks topic a way to turn it off, will probably do after I get the NoDo (in a year maybe? hehehe)
Back to topic: sure the default should be the same as it is now, but give me the option to change it, and when I select it, give me a big warning telling me that this will destroy my battery life. Then I know what to expect (ok, I would already know, but many people wouldn't...)
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Wow, that's just weird. How come so many compact digital cameras can have the shutter sound removed then? It doesn't really make sense... anyway, I saw in the Reg Tricks topic a way to turn it off, will probably do after I get the NoDo (in a year maybe? hehehe)
Back to topic: sure the default should be the same as it is now, but give me the option to change it, and when I select it, give me a big warning telling me that this will destroy my battery life. Then I know what to expect (ok, I would already know, but many people wouldn't...)
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Found the article. Had to go back and look for it because after my last post I thought I made it up but I was right haha. And it seems to say just cellphones. I imagine it would be really hard trying to stick a camera under someone's skirt...so they just leave the option to remove that sound there...iunno
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Wow, that's just weird. How come so many compact digital cameras can have the shutter sound removed then? It doesn't really make sense... anyway, I saw in the Reg Tricks topic a way to turn it off, will probably do after I get the NoDo (in a year maybe? hehehe)
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what's weird is that my HD7 doesn't make the shutter sound when i turn the volume all the way down to 0
also, topic related, my ipod touch stays connected to wifi 24/7 sleep or no sleep... i think that feature came with iOS 4 though??
Your iPod Thouch doesn't have any other means to go online. Your phone does.
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And they probably dont have that many options because they dont want to see a lot of people complaining about battery life. Because if you google anything android related, you'll get a bunch of battery life threads and complaint. so they are just defaulting settings that offer the best battery life and they are getting rid of the option to change those settings. that way nobody can post a bunch of threads complaining about battery life and by that not happening, when you search anything windows mobile related you'll see more threads about its features than bad battery life.
And yes, if WiFi never slept, it would be using more power than the disconnected 3G option it defaults to.
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Yep, cause changing the default search in IE from Google to Bing, where it should be, will certainly degrade my battery life.
The options are there because Microsoft have no clue what they're doing.
I'm willing to bet most of the people who worked on Windows Mobile are gone and these people working on WP7 are utterly clueless.
They're certainly disconnected form their customer base... completely...
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Yep, cause changing the default search in IE from Google to Bing, where it should be, will certainly degrade my battery life.
The options are there because Microsoft have no clue what they're doing.
I'm willing to bet most of the people who worked on Windows Mobile are gone and these people working on WP7 are utterly clueless.
They're certainly disconnected form their customer base... completely...
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you mean the customer base that was running away from winmo in droves and led to a less than 3% marketshare???
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Hello all,
Does anybody know if this problem has a solution with the NoDo update (presumably, NoDo comes with "wifi improvements")? I tried WP7 for a while and this was the failure that made me switch back to Android (I work in lots of basements; no GSM signal, but Wifi aplenty).
Thanks!
linj said:
Does anybody know if this problem has a solution with the NoDo update
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It's not a problem - it's a "feature". Features don't get fixed.
radeon_x said:
It's not a problem - it's a "feature". Features don't get fixed.
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Fantastic... Normally, though, that's true for "bugs," not "problems."
Well, I was unable to find any information one way or the other; this seems a lesser priority for many users. If anybody in the thread has updated, please let us know!
What's the deal with the loud advertisements on the pages now? I was very abruptly greeted with an advertisement this morning while at work talking about non-sense and it made me have to mute my computer. This is kind of a pain and to be honest the first time that I have every had an audible add that didn't give an option for muting. I know you guys have to pay to keep the lights on...but this is going to be a big nuisance for many users.
Pecinua non olet.
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What's the deal with the loud advertisements on the pages now? I was very abruptly greeted with an advertisement this morning while at work talking about non-sense and it made me have to mute my computer. This is kind of a pain and to be honest the first time that I have every had an audible add that didn't give an option for muting. I know you guys have to pay to keep the lights on...but this is going to be a big nuisance for many users.
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Such ads are not acceptable and they sometimes slip through the cracks. Please send me a screenshot of the offending ad and I'll have them removed immediately. If email is easier: xda.svetius(at)gmail.com
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Such ads are not acceptable and they sometimes slip through the cracks. Please send me a screenshot of the offending ad and I'll have them removed immediately. If email is easier: xda.svetius(at)gmail.com
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Will do! Thanks for your help!
whats the go with this? almost all the pages i load now have adds playing with the volume on straight away. normaly you have to unmute it but all the adds im getting are unmuted first and to make it stop playing you have to click on it to open a new window and it stops
I thought I was hearing stuff the other day. Couldn't figure out what was talking lol.
if you have an XDA page open just scroll to the bottom right and you should see it playing. soooo anoying when you open 5 different windows up and they all start playing loudly -.-
PLEASE FIX, i know you guys need to make money. but do the adds really need to automatically play sound??
Hey guys that admin provided a solution above...if you witness a loud advertisement take a screenshot of it and send to the admin above so they can take care of it