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Flashing a Kaiser Rom on to a Hermes

To the Rom chefs out there (btw you guys are the greatest), how difficult would it be to flash a kaiser rom on to a hermes? Would it be impossible or feasible? The reason I ask is that I am intrested in the software features of the kaiser but it will not be available in the states for a while (and my company may not upgrade for a while). I'm not sure how similar devices handle roms but if I could get a hermes with touchflo, built in improved home and com managers, and an app to recognize business cards... well that would rock. Just an idea I would appreciate any feedback.

Itz not difficult... only question is... does it work???

I would love to see that, but that is a hell of a question "Will it work?"!

Here is a short answer for you... HELL NO but if you like try it and then send me your bricked hermes!

Won't work out of the box, but you can extract whatever you want and cook it into your own ROM, using one of existing Hermes ROMs as a base.

Would it be possible to switch out the touch.dll file with the one from the kaiser to try to get touchflo working on the hermes (I'm comfertable setting up the business card recognizer through a cab)?

ok we need members that have created there own cooked roms to give us reallistic insight on how to pull this of?

Cooking a rom
leoiden said:
ok we need members that have created there own cooked roms to give us reallistic insight on how to pull this of?
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i take no credit for this, i am a noob loke you all, i myself like the att base that i get from vp3G you exrtact the base using romdonalds, you can cook with it to, but i cant understand it, i need to take more time. however i take the base and use it with pandora's build os, i also put added stuff in the pandora with Bennec83's instructions.
any spelling mistakes you find, suck it. i have been up since 4am and i need to get up at 4 again
ROMDonalds Kitchen v1.0 - The Educational Kitchen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319970&highlight=romdonalds
vp3G's WM6 v3.0 -- [The official "official" AT&T ROM]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317952&highlight=vp3G
Pandora Kitchen - v6.0 Build it YOUR way [updated 08/13/07 @ 14:19]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316881&highlight=pandora
Bennec83's cab-oem
1: Download CAB Manager from Rapidshare or Megaupload
2: Unpack the CABManager.exe and run it
3: Drop your CAB into CAB manager
4: Extract all the files in the CAB, to do this click the icon 3left from the XML button (It has SEL in small letters at the top of the button) LEAVE THE CABManager.exe RUNNING AS YOU WILL NEED IT FOR STEP 10
5: Go into the folder that you extracted your CAB to, there will be an *.inf (* = Name of the CAB), delete it as it is not needed
6: There will also be another folder inside the directory where you extracted the CAB, this will probably be called "Windows" or "Program Files"
These files contain all the files that are supposed to be in each directory on your device. i.e. all files in "Program Files" will get installed to the "Program Files" on your device when you install the CAB.
Never-the-less, these directories are not needed as we want all the files in the same folder, so copy the contents of each folder, into the folder where you extracted the CAB, do this for all folders that were extracted from the CAB
7: Go Here To Generate A GUID. Set it to "Version 4:Random" and press "Get" (It should look something like this - 21f768ec-4901-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66 - I will Note it as <GUID> instead of loads of numbers for ease of typing)
8: Go into the folder you extracted your CAB to, with all the files out of their directories, create TWO new text files.
For the FIRST text file: name it with the GUID you just generated in step 7 and change the file extension from "<GUID>.txt" to "<GUID>.dsm", press yes to the "Change File Extension" Warning
For the SECOND text file: give it the SAME GUID as above, but change the extension from "<GUID>.txt" to "<GUID>.rgu", press yes to the "Change File Extension" Warning
9: OPEN the "<GUID>.rgu" and select "SAVE AS.." select "UNICODE" (Default is ANSI), then go to the "Save as Type" Menu and select "All Files" and select your "<GUID>.rgu" and select "Yes" to the "Are you Sure You Want To Replace" warning
10: Go back to CABManager.exe and select the "XML" button, and a new window will pop up. In the new window select the tab "Registry Keys"
This will show you all of the REG Keys related to that CAB (If there are any, sometimes the software doesn’t need any so there will be nothing here!!)
Assuming that there are REG Keys, copy them all into the "<GUID>.rgu" and save it, REMEMBER TO SAVE AS "UNICODE"
Next you MUST make sure that the following is in the "<GUID>.rgu"
A: TOP LINE MUST say "REGEDIT4" (no ""), followed by a blank line, eg to follow:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Customize]
"Ver" = "1.0"
this must change to:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Customize]
"Ver" = "1.0"
B: Go to the end of the "<GUID>.rgu" and ensure that after the last line of text there is another blank line
AFTER you have edited the "<GUID>.rgu" with the correct things, SAVE IT AS "UNICODE"
11: 1: Download this "option.xml" from Rapidshare or SendSpace
Open the "option.xml" and edit the bits that need editing.
you will see what I mean, as I have created the option.xml to be self explanatory!!!
I hope this helps, if you have any questions PM me
OEM folder of HTC rom here: form pof
Kaiser dump thread
http://rapidshare.com/files/42085076/KAISER_OEM.7z.html
P.S. i would live to see the apps ported but when i try to cook even known stuff i get errors and discuraged so i stop
i am on vp3G's Vir. 3.0 it is what i need until someone puts something i can use up.
thanks to the cooks, and things that make you say huummmm

In case somebody is searching the cab-manager now ;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317358

Jesus, do none of you read anything any more? I don't like "n00b" bashing but when there's so many of you who have obviously read absolutely f*** all, then I'm thinking you're all fair game.
There are already LOTS of threads about ROMs with the Kaiser comm manager, dialler etc built in - there's been god knows how many attempts to get touchflo working, cooking in kaiser's touch.dll, hacking the old one, creating new ones, all about why you can't flash another device's ROM on to a hermes - mulitple threads about every damn thing you've been talking about, some of them not even that far away from the front page and none of you have taken the effort to have a look.
FFS, it's like painting a target on your back and going for a walk on a shooting range...

LOL......nicely said Smiffy
It's kinda like "the blind leading the deaf and stupid"....every time a new device hits the shelves, hoards of wombats want everything it has to offer on their old technology...arrgghhh!!!
Mark.
PS. Do you think I could flash the Kaiser ROM onto my Voyager....

Lordsmiff said:
FFS, it's like painting a target on your back and going for a walk on a shooting range...
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best statement of the year award!

leoiden said:
ok we need members that have created there own cooked roms to give us reallistic insight on how to pull this of?
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Here is some insite! IT cant be done! you can take certain apps and features from the kiaser rom which has been done many many times if you search for kiaser im sure you will find the home plug in the dail pad and the com manger and im sure some other things but here is a little hint you cant port the touchflow many have tried and come close but it just wont work yet! you can not flash another devices rom to the hermes sorry just wont work.

Lordsmiff said:
Jesus, do none of you read anything any more? I don't like "n00b" bashing but when there's so many of you who have obviously read absolutely f*** all, then I'm thinking you're all fair game.
There are already LOTS of threads about ROMs with the Kaiser comm manager, dialler etc built in - there's been god knows how many attempts to get touchflo working, cooking in kaiser's touch.dll, hacking the old one, creating new ones, all about why you can't flash another device's ROM on to a hermes - mulitple threads about every damn thing you've been talking about, some of them not even that far away from the front page and none of you have taken the effort to have a look.
FFS, it's like painting a target on your back and going for a walk on a shooting range...
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But seriously, if I cant flash the Kaiser Rom to my Tytn, can I port it into i-phone. Then I won't have any communication devices to post stupid questions again

I hear what you are saying, I actually run a tweaked out Hermes with HTC home (latest version from shen) dialer (older version I don't like the 3g video dialer) and com manager (10 button kaiser) though I use the offical att rom as my base. I have read the threads EXTENSIVELY both here and on other sites 4windows mobile tri-syndicate etc.(Stuff by JJ, Custel, etc.) I've even played with the Touchflo Alpha cab. My question was if it would be possible to take the whole kaiser rom (as opposed to extracting portions of it and loading them into one of the hermes roms) and load it on to a hermes, mainly because the issue (from what I have read) with touchflo is the touch.dll file and how it functions (wizard, kaiser, and elf similar, heremes is different) and this dead ends most projects. I was thinking that perhaps flashing the whole ROM might get around this (basically try to run a kaiser on a hermes, I was hoping that the devices were similar enough it might work). I guess the answer is no. The other thought I had was that perhaps the new offical release might be easier to work with (and the business card app is pretty sweet). I am somewhat technical but not a developer (though I work for for a large development firm) perhaps I misunderstood how a rom works and flashing the entire thing will not be posible nor will it solve any of the issues the chefs have been running into. It was just an idea.

aaronsmckee said:
I hear what you are saying, I actually run a tweaked out Hermes with HTC home (latest version from shen) dialer (older version I don't like the 3g video dialer) and com manager (10 button kaiser) though I use the offical att rom as my base. I have read the threads EXTENSIVELY both here and on other sites 4windows mobile tri-syndicate etc.(Stuff by JJ, Custel, etc.) I've even played with the Touchflo Alpha cab. My question was if it would be possible to take the whole kaiser rom (as opposed to extracting portions of it and loading them into one of the hermes roms) and load it on to a hermes, mainly because the issue (from what I have read) with touchflo is the touch.dll file and how it functions (wizard, kaiser, and elf similar, heremes is different) and this dead ends most projects. I was thinking that perhaps flashing the whole ROM might get around this (basically try to run a kaiser on a hermes, I was hoping that the devices were similar enough it might work). I guess the answer is no. The other thought I had was that perhaps the new offical release might be easier to work with (and the business card app is pretty sweet). I am somewhat technical but not a developer (though I work for for a large development firm) perhaps I misunderstood how a rom works and flashing the entire thing will not be posible nor will it solve any of the issues the chefs have been running into. It was just an idea.
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Touch.dll on a kaiser wun work on hermes... Datz the problem

If at first you don't succeed then make the target BIGGER!

What was that that LordSmiff said? It was sooo long, I couldn't read the whole thing.
Oh never mind. I forgot, I wouldn't bother reading your answer, either.
Can somebody pleeeeaaaasssseee make a video of alll this stuff on the forum. I can watch TV ok.
Anyway ... I just pre-ordered my Kaiser. Is there any way to flash my Hermes ROM onto it so I don't need to learn anything new?
Puuullllleeeeaaasssse help me!!!
Oh, and my keyboard makes a ? whenever I type a *. Haven't seen anything mentioned about this problem here.
-pvs

pvs said:
Oh, and my keyboard makes a ? whenever I type a *. Haven't seen anything mentioned about this problem here.
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I had this problem. Use HTCustom and go all the way over to the "keyboard" tab and choose the correct one (I have AT&T/Cingular, so I chose that).

mcorrie1121 said:
I had this problem. Use HTCustom and go all the way over to the "keyboard" tab and choose the correct one (I have AT&T/Cingular, so I chose that).
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Ummmm ... I was being a little sarcastic. Yes, I know ... it's just one of the questions that's been posted a few thousand times already ... probably will be again tomorrow.
Thanks for answering, though.
-pvs

TouchFLO 3D versions and customizing

I have a HTC Touch HD which seems to be running TouchFLO 3D version 1.3.37395.0_1630.38. Now my question is what are version 2 and 3? Can I upgrade my version to a later one or not? Or do I have to use 1.3 with my Touch HD? And can I use the software provided in this thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493011 , to customize my TouchFlo 3D interface, but yet be able to revert back to the stock one easily?

I'm interested in this. Been using the Search function and Google, but I haven't been able to find CAB files for TouchFlo3D beyond the version as posted by the OP.

dannyboi1988 said:
I'm interested in this. Been using the Search function and Google, but I haven't been able to find CAB files for TouchFlo3D beyond the version as posted by the OP.
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Yup, I think we dont have the cab for you install the Manila (TouchFlo3D) I need to get to know about upgrade ROM (wm6.1 or wm6.5) cause these Chefs will have the latest version of manila. Sorry to say that
In fact the manila included in the kitchen (ROM). It's more compatible with the ROM (less bugs).
So, try to research more mates.
Hope it helps

i wanna know which is V3 too.....which rom is using TouchFLO v3
but i see v2.5 is latest.........make me confuse

There is no TF3d 3.0
I read it also in some posts, but that isn right.
Version 2.0 is the "new" TF3d, which has a calender tab, landscape mode and much better integration, so it hides windows mobile better (Main TF3d from Diamond 2 and Touch Pro 2).
Version 2.1 is an updated version of 2.0 with some changed parts (You see it now in the most cooked Roms).
Version 2.5 Is a beta TF3d. You find it in some cooked Roms.
greets

Terrorhuhn said:
There is no TF3d 3.0
I read it also in some posts, but that isn right.
Version 2.0 is the "new" TF3d, which has a calender tab, landscape mode and much better integration, so it hides windows mobile better (Main TF3d from Diamond 2 and Touch Pro 2).
Version 2.1 is an updated version of 2.0 with some changed parts (You see it now in the most cooked Roms).
Version 2.5 Is a beta TF3d. You find it in some cooked Roms.
greets
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You are correct. There is a number of threads which incorrectly state manila V3.0. At present there is no such thing. Manila 2.5 is latest but is still full of bugs and issues which need sorted out by HTC before it can be used on a daily basis.
There is only way to change manila version, and that is to flash to rom with newer version of manila on it. You can not get manila in .exe or .cab to install to your device. Their was a few chef's who created roms with manila 2.5 on it but as stated earlier these roms where to full of bugs to be used daily so each chef has had to revert back to manila 2.1 for the time being.

TochFLO 3d 2.5 for HTC Touch HD?

Hello,
i search a way where i can install TouchFLO 3d 2.5 at my Touch HD without flashing a new ROM.
So is there a cab where i can install TochFLO 3D 2.5 to my original O2 ROM?
Thanks

No................

crankshaft said:
No................
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Bad news but i dont want install a custom ROM.

OK where i can get informations about all the TouchFLO 3D 2.5 files so that i start a project to bring only the TouchFLO 3D 2.5 in a cab and all can easy install only a cab without falshing all the time a custom ROM?
What i need is a full file list including file locations of TouchFLO 3D 2.5.
I will search the registry keys by my self.
Can any one help me with the files?

SkyBeat said:
OK where i can get informations about all the TouchFLO 3D 2.5 files so that i start a project to bring only the TouchFLO 3D 2.5 in a cab and all can easy install only a cab without falshing all the time a custom ROM?
What i need is a full file list including file locations of TouchFLO 3D 2.5.
I will search the registry keys by my self.
Can any one help me with the files?
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I'm pretty sure this is not possible at all... One of the great cooks here at xda would already have done it! TouchFlo is far too deeply inbedded in the ROM to be installed via cab!

SkyBeat said:
OK where i can get informations about all the TouchFLO 3D 2.5 files so that i start a project to bring only the TouchFLO 3D 2.5 in a cab and all can easy install only a cab without falshing all the time a custom ROM?
What i need is a full file list including file locations of TouchFLO 3D 2.5.
I will search the registry keys by my self.
Can any one help me with the files?
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I would be very interested in something like this myself and do not think it is impossible. I remember from my old days when I had found a cab file to install HTC Home onto a Windows 5 Xda. It was a hit in the Xda forum then. So to say, it's not impossible.

OK, if you wanna give it a bash then download one of the kitckens from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515824
In there you'll find all the manila files. not sure what you're gonna do with them though, there's thousands!

It may be possible
Read this. However its for VGA resolution only, the Blackstone has WVGA.
All I can say is good luck mate....you'll need it
EDIT
Also found this thread, which ain't much help unfortunately

what is manila?

i am a new user using htc hd...i dont know what is manilaa.can someone explain 2 me about it and describe how to install it to the device.Thank You

Manila or TF3D is the standard user interface on the HTC roms. There are however different versions that are released as more development takes place.
The only way currently to get an updated manila version onto your device is to flash to a new rom with the latest version "cooked" in.

yea, as above, manila is basically the codename for touchflo, so in all the registries and files associated to it, manila is referred to, not touchflo. thats why it makes sense to call it manila (from a development standpoint)

try here for answers to that and lots of other FAQs
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_for_noobs
then here....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone

New Tab for Manila: Programs

While I was browsing by a Russian Forum I discovered a new application for Manila. So, all credit goes for the developer ( I have not changed the name of the original cab), it adds a new tab call Program where you can add up to 30 Program links. Although its intended to work on Manila v 1922 and my version is 20121412 I decided to give it a try. Previously I made a backup of all my files just in case.
Ok, after installed it and soft reset my phone I have seen that all works perfectly so I have thought that maybe it could useful for someone else. In my case, I prefer to have all my useful program at one shot.
I have added 4 pics to you can see how its works on my phone. Currently using Max Manilla v2.5 beta 3.

Rocheau said:
While I was browsing by a Russian Forum I discovered a new application for Manila. So, all credit goes for the developer ( I have not changed the name of the original cab), it adds a new tab call Program where you can add up to 30 Program links. Although its intended to work on Manila v 1922 and my version is 20121412 I decided to give it a try. Previously I made a backup of all my files just in case.
Ok, after installed it and soft reset my phone I have seen that all works perfectly so I have thought that maybe it could useful for someone else. In my case, I prefer to have all my useful program at one shot.
I have added 4 pics to you can see how its works on my phone. Currently using Max Manilla v2.5 beta 3.
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Think you may Have the wrong CAB posted, this is only a clock setup that I can see not programs tab

grzegorz10 said:
Think you may Have the wrong CAB posted, this is only a clock setup that I can see not programs tab
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Ty Fixed now.

Nice.Although with max manila this is a bit useless.

Sense refuses to launch after installing this on miniterros 4.1 rom, manila version 2.5.2012.1225 (Rhodium 2.07 based) with MaxManila 3.0 installed.

millski said:
Sense refuses to launch after installing this on miniterros 4.1 rom, manila version 2.5.2012.1225 (Rhodium 2.07 based) with MaxManila 3.0 installed.
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Although its works in my case I can not ensure to work in others, so I encourage you to make a backup prior to install it, just in case.

Rocheau said:
Although its works in my case I can not ensure to work in others, so I encourage you to make a backup prior to install it, just in case.
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It uninstalled fine and Sense works now, just wanted to let people know it seems to be incompatible with the Rhodium 2.07, 2.5.2012.1225 build.

I don`t know why we need to install any cab when the Manila 2.1 Sense have already Program Tab by default?!

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tsalta said:
I don`t know why we need to install any cab when the Manila 2.1 Sense have already Program Tab by default?!
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Isn't it cool to have 2 different program tabs?
Just joking
The CAB is not for manila 2.1 it's for 2.5.1922.

igorok26 said:
Isn't it cool to have 2 different program tabs?
Just joking
The CAB is not for manila 2.1 it's for 2.5.1922.
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and for 2012..

With the manilla version in the NRGZ28 roms, 2012, manilla doesn't load anymore when this cabifile is installed. Anyone has a fix?

Thank you very much for the contribution and sharing.
Function has been tested in several manila ROM with positive results 2.5 It does not work correctly , the only thing he lacked these ROM to use the system in professional roles, it seems that only created for use multimedia messaging and forgetting that many use it in our professions.
This tab is essential to have direct access to all applications without having to navigate home and folders. If you want to use the tab for all these programs limited to using the manila 2.1. It's a shame because the manila 2.5 provides fluidity, improved resources and capabilities that do not have in 2.1.
Do you ever create a ROM purely and exclusively for business use?
Best regards