Remove system apps ? Root needed ? - Desire General

Hi !
Waiting for root... i hope in the next coming days...
Just a question :
Is it possible to remove apps (ex : FaceBook, Peep, Stocks... useless for me), or we need to kitchen a custom rom (in the future)
Thx !

This should be possible if device is rooted (hope so a lot!!!). Can't wait to get rid of this crap.

emdzej said:
Can't wait to get rid of this crap.
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Agreed, it sucks that so many apps on the Desire cannot be uninstalled.

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To Dev's: why not moving ALL non essential apps from the /system/app

Hello all dev's,
I get really frustrated on most of the ROM's because I get always some applications that I cannot remove manually.
It can be a lot of applications in the "official Froyo+sense" ROM like plurk, Facebook, etc.. Amazon in CyanogenMod, or other stuffs in other ROMs.
Why the hell don't you automatically allow us to remove ALL non essential apps from the settings/applications/manage applications? I have seen that you are able to do that.
Is there a technological reason? Why do you move some applications and not all?
Is that a space matter? A performance or technological reason?
I feel really frustrated on each ROM because I have to always use "adb shell rm system/app/*.apk" and plug my device on the computer.
Please answer me.
Thanks.
Profete162
Can't answer the question but good call.
personally I think all ROMS should come with Titanium backup and Rom Manager. but everything else should be user modifiable.
Profete162: you could open the zip prior to install and delete the apps you don't want then flash?
Exactly that - open the ZIP and remove what you don't want. It's the first thing I do with a new ROM and I also add what I do wanna use so it can't get deleted. Hell of a lot easier than adb
EddyOS said:
Exactly that - open the ZIP and remove what you don't want. It's the first thing I do with a new ROM and I also add what I do wanna use so it can't get deleted. Hell of a lot easier than adb
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Yes, but it took maybe 10 minuts for maybe 2.000 users of the ROM or more if the ROM is Cyanogen.
It's a waste of 20.000 minuts for the world.. and we have to do that on each update.flash lol
When the dev with it's experience have only 2 minuts maybe to do that.
I understand that that's not a really big problem and the dev's have a lot of things to keep in mind, baut may be a good suggestion I hope for the next ROMS
profete162 said:
Yes, but it took maybe 10 minuts for maybe 2.000 users of the ROM or more if the ROM is Cyanogen.
It's a waste of 20.000 minuts for the world.. and we have to do that on each update.flash lol
When the dev with it's experience have only 2 minuts maybe to do that.
I understand that that's not a really big problem and the dev's have a lot of things to keep in mind, baut may be a good suggestion I hope for the next ROMS
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The Devs have to cater for everyone. Some people need those apps and would ditch the ROM if they were removed. If you don't need them just open the zip and remove them. It's not as if it takes more than 2 minutes.
To be fair, this post is just highlighting your laziness to open up an zip manager and press delete a few times. Dev's have to cater for everyone, not just you.
7pellc said:
To be fair, this post is just highlighting your laziness to open up an zip manager and press delete a few times. Dev's have to cater for everyone, not just you.
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That's exactly why I ask to Move all the apps in the deletable section. So easier work for the dev's and no complain!!!
That's a request that would fit everyone!
abc27 said:
Some people need those apps and would ditch the ROM if they were removed.
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I want to delete them but allow to delete them. I think it's a fair question and you havn't understood the meaning of my request. I would like to add the possibility to remove them, just that.
I don't understand why question sound stupid to you!
The dev's are adding the old app2sd, spare parts, and some apps that it take 2 minuts to add too! So why my request is different from other?
profete162 said:
That's exactly why I ask to Move all the apps in the deletable section. So easier work for the dev's and no complain!!!
That's a request that would fit everyone!
I want to delete them but allow to delete them. I think it's a fair question and you havn't understood the meaning of my request. I would like to add the possibility to remove them, just that.
I don't understand why question sound stupid to you!
The dev's are adding the old app2sd, spare parts, and some apps that it take 2 minuts to add too! So why my request is different from other?
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Those 'non essential' apps are essential to some of us. So why take them out??
It's so much easier to remove apps than it is to add them back in. Just remove them from the zip file as said if you don't like them before you flash.
And why the attitude? Questions that start 'Why the hell ...' and statements like 'I'm so frustrated ....' Mate - get a grip. Relax. It's a phone. You can remove the apps and if not just ignore them.
profete162 said:
That's exactly why I ask to Move all the apps in the deletable section. So easier work for the dev's and no complain!!!
That's a request that would fit everyone!
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The issue is that moving it into a user partition is then consuming valuable application space, and the spare space in /system is then effectively wasted.
If it's an issue, why not delete the apps from the zip yourself and then post your stripped down ROM, saving 19990 minutes!
Regards,
Dave
profete162 said:
Hello all dev's,
I get really frustrated on most of the ROM's because I get always some applications that I cannot remove manually.
It can be a lot of applications in the "official Froyo+sense" ROM like plurk, Facebook, etc.. Amazon in CyanogenMod, or other stuffs in other ROMs.
Why the hell don't you automatically allow us to remove ALL non essential apps from the settings/applications/manage applications? I have seen that you are able to do that.
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You could always make your own roms, that way it would be catered to your needs
You are right, " you have just to make your own ROM" is the universal solution.
Sorry for my question/request, I was just looking for a solution to make the Rom more open without adding stuff.
Sorry for my post and have a good day.
You can let it go through the "forgotten posts"
I understand your request and must agree to some extent, it would be nice to have the apps a place where we can choose wheter to keep or not without having to use usb/computer or per delete every zip
But ofc just the non essential ones
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
U cant odex Apps in data Partition so it saves ALOT of space to store Apps (odexed) in system.
brumle80 said:
I understand your request and must agree to some extent, it would be nice to have the apps a place where we can choose wheter to keep or not without having to use usb/computer or per delete every zip
But ofc just the non essential ones
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It's called a kitchen - MoDaCo's kitchens already do this.
Regards,
Dave
Few little facts an reasons why,
The andoid system its self depends on a lot of apps that are and should be stored in /system.
We cannot modify /system easily as HTC Locked write access to the /system partition. (we only have partial root access, this is why you guys are having issues with titanium)
apk.s in /data cannot be odexed in the same way and would use twice as much space if stored in /data.
hope this gives you a better understanding.. Dont flame the Devs
Can we please get this thread closed...
Anyway u can check out my Rom? Lols. I should be always be releasing 2 version of the rom for all of my updates if time let me.. 1 full 1 bare minimum lite version rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire
LeeDroid said:
Few little facts an reasons why,
The andoid system its self depends on a lot of apps that are and should be stored in /system.
We cannot modify /system easily as HTC Locked write access to the /system partition. (we only have partial root access, this is why you guys are having issues with titanium)
apk.s in /data cannot be odexed in the same way and would use twice as much space if stored in /data.
hope this gives you a better understanding.. Dont flame the Devs
Can we please get this thread closed...
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I would have been so happy if that was the first answer! Thank a lot for the information.
I hope that Plurk, Teeter, etc.. are not essential by the way
diablous said:
Profete162: you could open the zip prior to install and delete the apps you don't want then flash?
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I didnt know it was that easy.
So on DeVillian quick office is already installed and is 5mb.
so do i just delete the apk from the zip and re flash?
If people demand it, I'll write an app to move files from data to system and backwards,
you'll basically be able to choose the app you want to move and then the phone reboots to recovery and moves the chosen apps to the destination you want it to be.
I even thought about odexing apps and removing the dex files from the apks.
So if people want it I'll probably start writing the code on sunday.
+1 for beidl

[Q] Automatically Running Process / Programs

Hello All,
i think this topic opened too many times. but i read all of them , but there is nothing a solution.
What I want;
If i "KILL" any process, i want really KILL !
But when i kill the any process ( any app, or any process) just a few minutes ago, same process start again.
Google sync , exchange, facebook etc. and some third party game, like sky warrior, bunny shooter etc
then , my Free Ram about 50-60 Mb . device is slow down, sometimes not responding.
There is any way to stop these process and never start again automatically ?
For example, i will never use Google maps services, how can i stop this and it will never work again ?
thanks a lot
try V6 supercharhger from dev section..
you will need to be rooted for doing this, but this will solve your problem.
just make sure when you instal it take (agressive option) to kill any aplication automaticly when is runed but not used by you.
electrash said:
try V6 supercharhger from dev section..
you will need to be rooted for doing this, but this will solve your problem.
just make sure when you instal it take (agressive option) to kill any aplication automaticly when is runed but not used by you.
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Totally agreeing.
I'm using the V6 Supercharger with aggressive 1 settings and I always have about 150 MB free RAM.
doganbaris said:
For example, i will never use Google maps services, how can i stop this and it will never work again ?
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If you completely want to remove some system applications, you also have to be rooted and you can remove apps from /system/app.
What is the best setting for v6 currently im using balanced 3. For me its okay but still a few insignificant lags here and there
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i use balance also...
for multi tasking balance is best...
if you do not use multitasking that aggressive is best for you.
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balanced is for multitasking..
if you are not so much multitasking, wants some more ram, and less lag
use aggressive one.
thank you all for all replies/suggestions
Is "V6 supercharhger" application or ROM ?
and, 2 little questions
first;
dp94 said:
If you completely want to remove some system applications, you also have to be rooted and you can remove apps from /system/app.
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When i rooted, can i remove any of all system applications ?
And, if i rooted my phone, can i get back the root later, if needed ? and which is the most stable and usefull rom , any suggestion?
thanks a lot again
if i setting aggresive
is that effect on mail or other app sync?
doganbaris said:
Is "V6 supercharhger" application or ROM ?
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A script. Look here.
doganbaris said:
And, if i rooted my phone, can i get back the root later, if needed ? and which is the most stable and usefull rom , any suggestion?
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I don't really understand your question, but I think you're asking about unrooting. And yes, it's possible.
doganbaris said:
When i rooted, can i remove any of all system applications ?
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Look for the guide here.
doganbaris said:
and which is the most stable and usefull rom , any suggestion?
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CM7.
selaludiam said:
if i setting aggresive
is that effect on mail or other app sync?
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No, it doesn't.
I'm using agressive 1 settings and haven't any problem with my exchange.

Disable OTA update notification

Hi all
is there a way to disable OTA upgrade on my Desire?
For example, I install some stuff directly form the .apk and I don't want this to be udated later on.
haven't found the trick yet...
thks & rgds
zorglub! said:
Hi all
is there a way to disable OTA upgrade on my Desire?
For example, I install some stuff directly form the .apk and I don't want this to be udated later on.
haven't found the trick yet...
thks & rgds
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Your not very clear. You want to stop your apps from updating or your os?

[Q] How to Disable Sense

Hi guys,
My warranty has already expired about a week ago, and decided to try something different on my phone.
Im new here so i apologize if i made some mistakes.
How to disable Sense-UI?
Is it posible to set it off without rooting or rooting is necessary?
Steps to root my phone? (I seen some but im in doubt if they still work)
von1075 said:
Hi guys,
My warranty has already expired about a week ago, and decided to try something different on my phone.
Im new here so i apologize if i made some mistakes.
How to disable Sense-UI?
Is it posible to set it off without rooting or rooting is necessary?
Steps to root my phone? (I seen some but im in doubt if they still work)
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why dont you use apex or nova launcher from play store?? it replaces most of the sense ui and root is NOT required
von1075 said:
Hi guys,
My warranty has already expired about a week ago, and decided to try something different on my phone.
Im new here so i apologize if i made some mistakes.
How to disable Sense-UI?
Is it posible to set it off without rooting or rooting is necessary?
Steps to root my phone? (I seen some but im in doubt if they still work)
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Why dont you try flashing an AOKP or CM10.1
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
daninantro said:
why dont you use apex or nova launcher from play store?? it replaces most of the sense ui and root is NOT required
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Thx dude! That was a great help!
Not only im able to customize the homescreen but most of sense ui is still there.
von1075 said:
Thx dude! That was a great help!
Not only im able to customize the homescreen but most of sense ui is still there.
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It's worth noting that it is still runnning in the background and chewing up memory. You can install and use and switch between as many launchers as you can install on your phone, but they all have elemets that load at boot and occupy RAM space.
If you want to lose Sense properly, install an AOSP ROM or a De-Sensed ROM, and you can use ROMCleaner to strip Sense from any ROM and use any launcher.
Tigerlight said:
It's worth noting that it is still runnning in the background and chewing up memory. You can install and use and switch between as many launchers as you can install on your phone, but they all have elemets that load at boot and occupy RAM space.
If you want to lose Sense properly, install an AOSP ROM or a De-Sensed ROM, and you can use ROMCleaner to strip Sense from any ROM and use any launcher.
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i would say because of battery life, he just should flash a custom sense rom and de-sense it...

[Q] Safe services/applications to Disable

Hi
Does anyone know of a list that displays all the services/applications that are OK (Safe) to disable, to allow for less processes to run in the background and possible better battery life?
I'm running an HTC One m9 on AT&T !
Thanks,
James
any update on this thread?
kalmoa said:
any update on this thread?
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The easy way is to S-Off and convert your AT&T to a Developer Edition
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-one-m9/general/att-developer-edition-ruu-how-to-t3086948
After that it's pretty simple to use a root explorer and remove the rest of the junk Google / HTC apps you don't use
You will need a custom kernel for the changes to stick
kalmoa said:
any update on this thread?
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I used application called Titanium Backup to clean my device and to remove all the crap from inside, what eventually allowed me to beautifully deploy my operational environment built on top of this Android OS powered by this gorgeous piece of htc hardware..
See the TB screenshots attached:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kd0c1sbczjn94z9/Screenshots_TB.zip?dl=1

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