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Is there a Hard SPL for tilt 2 yet?

i tried using the Hard SPL in the TP2 "flashing for noobs" thread and a message appeared saying it wasn't for my phone and it had a high chance of bricking my phone.

titan427m said:
i tried using the Hard SPL in the TP2 "flashing for noobs" thread and a message appeared saying it wasn't for my phone and it had a high chance of bricking my phone.
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cmon man, seriously? I understand you're new to the forum, but it's literally RIGHT THERE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131

haha wow! sorry about that xD
now that i've gotten that out of the way. does anyone have any links to ROMs that are made for Tilt 2 phones as opposed to the TP2?

titan427m said:
haha wow! sorry about that xD
now that i've gotten that out of the way. does anyone have any links to ROMs that are made for Tilt 2 phones as opposed to the TP2?
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I think what you need to realize is that Tilt2 is pretty much a TP2
Anyways there are some ROMs cooked specifically for AT&T...check out the ROM section
But even if you flash some other ROMs, the only thing you have to do is to download the Tilt2 keyboard fix

i know. i have a TP2 ROM on it now, but something about turning on my phone and seeing "TouchPRO2" irks me xD

titan427m said:
i know. i have a TP2 ROM on it now, but something about turning on my phone and seeing "TouchPRO2" irks me xD
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If you're interested, you can actually change the boot screen to any 480x800 image with this guide by ai6908.

[Q] Desire rooting problems - Anyone had a similar experience??

Hi guys and gals
My mate got his HTC Desire about 4 days ago, he wasted no time in trying to root it but seems to have fu**ed up. According to his own words:
"I did the unlocker method (made the gold card), got into the boot loader but upon loading the custom and reboot I lost the screen. phone still works but no display, I am still trying various recoveries"
Has anyone had (or know of) any similar experiences? I been thinking about rooting my Desire but now I'm worried...not had mine long either.
Thanks!

DJ Anon said:
Hi guys and gals
My mate got his HTC Desire about 4 days ago, he wasted no time in trying to root it but seems to have fu**ed up. According to his own words:
"I did the unlocker method (made the gold card), got into the boot loader but upon loading the custom and reboot I lost the screen. phone still works but no display, I am still trying various recoveries"
Has anyone had (or know of) any similar experiences? I been thinking about rooting my Desire but now I'm worried...not had mine long either.
Thanks!
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sounds like your mate has an slcd screen and tried to downgrade his device too an incompatible hboot (f it doesn't mention amoled on the box you have slcd). this is completely recoverable. although a little tricky - see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748498&highlight=brick

Cheers!
Thanks debully,
Will pass on your comments to my mate.
I must say tho, his experience has sort of freaked me out a bit. I am looking to root my Desire (I wanna be able to connect with a Wii controller) but am feeling a bit aprehensive now...

Go for it man.. I just bought my telus desire last tuesday and by the end of thursday I had rooted and flashed LeeDroid to it.. and havent looked back since. While some of the instructions may seem complicated, once you actually do it, it's really quite easy. I originally used unrevoked without the SLCD support, and it still works, just shows a black screen when doing the updates. Earlier today I re-flashed unrevoked with the SLCD support and switched to Cyanogen 6 RC2, and it was a walk in the park! The advanages of the custom ROMS (and 2.2) far outweigh the chance of a scare. And if you still feel aprahensible about it, just check out the howardforums.com telus HSPA forums, there is a post with a REALLY easy walkthrough, and several success stories for our specific model of the phone.

Thanks mikeandjaimie
i'm gonna go ahead and be a lazy bas**rd, could you please provide a link to this forum u speak of?
Thanks!

try to avoid over the air upgrades to froyo as this throws a nasty spanner in the works should you wish to get root afterwards. Lots of screen presses on a blank screen - not for the faint hearted. Stick with 2.1 and its quite a bit easier to root, then upgrade to froyo via a custom rom.
I only know this because I did an OTA update within minutes of getting out of the box, only to find that this has practically ruined my chances of rooting my device, for the time being at least, until some bright bugger finds a reasonable way round it.

debully said:
try to avoid over the air upgrades to froyo as this throws a nasty spanner in the works should you wish to get root afterwards. Lots of screen presses on a blank screen - not for the faint hearted. Stick with 2.1 and its quite a bit easier to root, then upgrade to froyo via a custom rom.
I only know this because I did an OTA update within minutes of getting out of the box, only to find that this has practically ruined my chances of rooting my device, for the time being at least, until some bright bugger finds a reasonable way round it.
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I hear you mate. I updated my Android OS to Froyo 2.2 almost on the same day I got the phone. However there are some guides on how to downgrade your Android OS to 0.83 or lower before rooting it so I'll be giving it a try shortly.

Please let me know how you get on and save the links to the guides you use - if you don't mind.
Good luck
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

What is the best rooting method??? All methods considered....

Hi, I am swapping my phone out for a replacement but haven't rooted my slide since june and since then there have been a bunch of methods developed. I originally used eugenes with the eng build. Gonna root my new one and do a nandroid back to cm 6 but I have to root first. Is eng still necessary? I remember doing the boot loop unplug replug blah blah but since june what's the fastest simplest way to root? Is eng still required? Or is it just still the best method? I'm a flashing addict btw. Changes roms frequently. Thanks for your input. Maybe the mods can make one thread with all rooting methods compared for people without hours to search and read all of them scattered around the forum
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I personally like nbetcher's method the best: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754020

fermunky said:
I personally like nbetcher's method the best: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754020
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That's also the only working method.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

Buddatearz said:
Maybe the mods can make one thread with all rooting methods compared for people without hours to search and read all of them scattered around the forum
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That's not a bad idea, we have a ROM Bible why not ask the Mods to make a ROOT Bible and sticky it in the forum.

cingall said:
That's not a bad idea, we have a ROM Bible why not ask the Mods to make a ROOT Bible and sticky it in the forum.
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Because all the methods, other than nbetcher's, are either outdated or don't work.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

migueltherocker said:
Because all the methods, other than nbetcher's, are either outdated or don't work.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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Personally I don't recommend any other root guide than nbetcher's...BUT let me ask you this: do other methods not work because they are outdated or are they just outdated methods that still work?

The loop method worked before the OTA update.
The unlockr method never worked afaik.
The temproot method does not, and never has, worked.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

Thanks!!!
Thanks everybody for your responses, honestly I'm lazy and would have just done the same as i did before I can honestly say that you guys have saved me a world of aggravation!! My wife too cause she hears all my *****ing, lol. nbetchers method seems so drawn out. I completely forgot about the last OTA update as I have been running eugene's roms since june. just recently switched to a cm nightly. my new phone will be here on wednesday so I'll be sure to post progress but i'll start with nbetchers method (much props btw, from the look of it it seemed difficult to accomplish!). Lets keep the slide alive!! @ least till the christmas time phones are cheap and the summer releases are here...lol
*EDIT* After rereading nbetchers method it actually looks really straightforward. Thanks NB!!

Buddatearz said:
Thanks everybody for your responses, honestly I'm lazy and would have just done the same as i did before I can honestly say that you guys have saved me a world of aggravation!! My wife too cause she hears all my *****ing, lol. nbetchers method seems so drawn out. I completely forgot about the last OTA update as I have been running eugene's roms since june. just recently switched to a cm nightly. my new phone will be here on wednesday so I'll be sure to post progress but i'll start with nbetchers method (much props btw, from the look of it it seemed difficult to accomplish!). Lets keep the slide alive!! @ least till the christmas time phones are cheap and the summer releases are here...lol
*EDIT* After rereading nbetchers method it actually looks really straightforward. Thanks NB!!
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I disagree with nbethers being "drawn out". Hell, the original method was a PITA since you had to first coyp some files over, then get adb loop to work, then copy more over at a precise time etc etc...

Ya I pretty much retracted that statement. It seems really easy compare to the old original rooting method. Much props to the dev!!! Thanks for the first response too fermonky for pointing me in the right direction
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No prob, glad to help.

root method
has anyone tried the superoneclick root method?
The method was on the XDA portal on 19 Oct -- can't post the link 'cause I'm still new
Just wondering if it works on the slide.

bearcat668 said:
has anyone tried the superoneclick root method?
The method was on the XDA portal on 19 Oct -- can't post the link 'cause I'm still new
Just wondering if it works on the slide.
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It doesn't.

theunlockr
^I used that to root my phone and it worked fine. I did this method cause i needed a visual of how to do it cause im a noob.
Then i came here and updated with this.
(for some reason it wont let me post link so look up - #TeamFenix v2.0 - Updated 9/14 - WiFi issue resolved!
and do that update
I did a nandroid backup for my phone the updated with that. and now im running froyo 2.2 on my phone and loving it. Although my market place seems diffrent. Like it came with a diffrent market than the sense. but overall its great. No problems with it.
Hope it helps.

Farewell everyone

I am ceasing most of my development due to my kaiser bricking itself last night. I am going to purchase a samsung comet and do my main dev'ing on that now.
Now here is the good news, I am going to still be able to continue my barebones builds because I was donated a Mogul to dev with that through HARET. This will allow me to make it even faster than it was before because the Mogul has half the ram that our kaisers do. I am purchasing a new phone because I need a GSM phone and the Mogul is CDMA.
I thank you all for helping me out and I am glad to be of service to you all!

and another one bites the dust
i am also pretty much done with my builds for vogue and kaiser.
i am currently focused on my hero and i am getting an evo in a few weeks if everything goes as planned

Thank you both for your hard work, it does not go un-noticed.
Eventually we all move on to pastures new it is the way life goes.
Wish you all the best of luck with your future developments.
Thank you and best wishes.

aceoyame said:
I am ceasing most of my development due to my kaiser bricking itself last night. I am going to purchase a samsung comet and do my main dev'ing on that now.
Now here is the good news, I am going to still be able to continue my barebones builds because I was donated a Mogul to dev with that through HARET. This will allow me to make it even faster than it was before because the Mogul has half the ram that our kaisers do. I am purchasing a new phone because I need a GSM phone and the Mogul is CDMA.
I thank you all for helping me out and I am glad to be of service to you all!
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aceoyame,
With the Mogul, Vogue and Kaiser users can still use your ROM? Unsure,

But still you'll miss this great community.

Prowess said:
aceoyame,
With the Mogul, Vogue and Kaiser users can still use your ROM? Unsure,
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Yep. The mogul is just a vogue that looks like a kaiser, has the specs of a vogue with only half the ram lol. I saw they were using HARET and felt bad for the mogul users having no froyo,no NAND installs so I decided to help out. But yes, I can dev with it no problems with haret.

How bricked is it?
Only power led is lid or smashed to the ground?

Power led only lights, If plugged in it can boot into android but I do not have access to the boot loader and I don't even see the kernel text, I just see the boot animation and it loads. Once in I do not have any radio signal what so ever.

If you remove the battery and reinsert it, then
if you press camera button and power on do you enter the SPL colored bootloader?
Ifso, you can try to flash a new radio.
if you press the green phone after battery reinsert and power on, then you enter the OEMSBL. (only green led and no booting) but then you can talk to your device with the moteq drivers thru MTTY...

aceoyame said:
Yep. The mogul is just a vogue that looks like a kaiser, has the specs of a vogue with only half the ram lol. I saw they were using HARET and felt bad for the mogul users having no froyo,no NAND installs so I decided to help out. But yes, I can dev with it no problems with haret.
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Great news, indeed!

bricked using alpharev

Hi guys, I have a massive itch, I am badly in need of memory and I am sick of a2sd, so the obvious route is alpharev. But i am bricking it Just expecting a kid right now and I can just see me gal saying "go right ahead, your infernal meddling has ruined a perfectly good phone, but no matter take £300 n git a newun!" Mmmmm...??
Anyway, just wanted to hear from some people who have bricked using alpharev (to see how many have) and if there is any way back after said bricking. I've heard you can't.
That's it, thanx in advance!

It's basically impossible to brick your device if you follow the instructions, which are very simple
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

elliottg61 said:
It's basically impossible to brick your device if you follow the instructions, which are very simple
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This.
Also you should change the thread name which is kinda confusing...

A description of your problem doesn't exist so nobody will be able to help you.
I never heard or read from someone who bricked his phone using alpharev. And if your phone is bricked it would not react anymore (as if it would be dead.
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I'm not asking for help. Just interested in other peoples experience. I'm temped, but cautious as like I said, it's a mistake I cannot afford to rectifiy at the moment. So really all I wouldlike to know is if it had happened to others how they solved it or not.
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Hboot is the ultimate base for your phone. By using alpharev/revolutionary this gets 'updated'. If there something goes wrong, your phone is completely bricked. And there is absolutely no so solution for this. Your desire is then nothing more than an expensive paperweight.
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However, in order for it to go wrong, the flash itself must go wrong. So a problem anywhere else along the process won't cause these kinds of problems. And because the flash of the bootloader is done by the old bootloader, the only way this can go wrong is, if you pull the battery half way through.
That will cause a serious brick though(you will never even see your screen turn on again) and that you won't recover from.

Thanx for the replys. I fully expected that sort of response about fixing the brick. Oh well. But have you guys heard of this ever happening, apart from the unlikely event of interrupted flash due to battery on laptop or phone being dead. Any stories about "alpharev ate my desire, killed my hamster & broke my toe!"
Just wondering
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Nope don't think anyone has ever bricked a device doing it my friend
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Please do read my post again...
The way this is done(and the way the bootsystem on those phones work), there is no way other than a bad bootloader flash that will actually brick your phone. And a bad bootloader flash only occurs, as i already told you, if you interrupt it by pulling the battery mid-way(pulling the plug or the computer-battery shouldn't even do it as the flash itself is done entirely by the phone). So no there is NO ONE who used alpharev as intended, who have ended up with a bricked phone.
You might see a few "brick" stories though, which is essentially just bootloops happening to people unaware how their phone work and how to fix such simple problems.

Thanx people, put my mind at ease about doing this.
Sorry, but I'm gonna ask a thick question. You mentioned bootloop and the simple fix. Er... I just take out the battery. Is that the simple fix?
PS would you use the live Linux CD or live USB. My gut tells me to use USB. But I've had a few curries recently and I don't know if I trust it all that much.
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I used the live CD and it worked without a hitch.
And bootlooping can't be fixed by removing the battery, because next time you turn it on, you'll bootloop again.
I've had one bootloop with my phone and it was fixed by just reflashing my current ROM, so I'm not too experienced with these things.

Bootloop is not a brick in any means, in fact it's 1 of the easiest things to fix.
Wipe/Factory Reset and reflash.
Thats why i want to kill people which creating threads like "HELP BRICKED MY PHONE !!!1111oneneone" and then inside i see "i'm stuck on htc logo!"

Yeah, a real brick would mean your phone is completely dead and nothing more than an expensive paperweight.
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Dont use alpharev..
Alpharev have joined forces to come up with some epic software
Go here
http://revolutionary.io/

I am also a n00b when it comes to Android. I have decided after using almost 1 year my desire to root and s-off my phone. I always look for the detailed and visual tutorials and if you follow everything step by step it is hardly impossible to brick anything. (I have also flashed my navi, PSP and Wii before) I have used this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084and followed the videos and steps. The only thing I have to do now is to apply a custom rom on it.
You'll have no worries if you follow these steps.

don1bong said:
Alpharev have joined forces to come up with some epic software
Go here
revolutionary.io
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thats absolutly right! this new tool did a great job for me recently (wildfire)
but the "old" alpharev.iso is doing a good job, too!
i had no probs one year ago - this livedisc is almost foolproof (if you dont touch batteries or powercables) - just follow the instructions