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Blue Angel wm5.0 working faster than ever...try this

Since i am relatively new to ppcs, i read almost all the forums to upgrade my BA to wm5.0
the first try, it was so slow, i tried the overclock software, pocket hack master and more, it still had ten second pauses when turning on or waking up. plus the phone was lagging, (slow)
I dont know but i stumbled on this by mistake,
Warning: Backup all data on your device to your computer..
(make a backup compy of all your data on computer)
1) all i did was the following press: (camers + record+ reset "hold untill options appears") then wait until some options appear on the screen, (three options with Yes/No options) I did the same as before, leave the first as No, the last two as Yes, then press the e (internet key), it will reset itself, this takes about 5 secs, this wipe my phone clean, every installed program was gone, brand new....
point1-> do not copy old backup folders to ur device, make only one new directory in my documents (i called mine Files) and place all your files and sub-folders in there.
Note: you will still have the folders, business, personal and my pictures
plus couple others
point2-.just like a PC using MS software, the OS looks for all directories before making next steps.. for example: if you open my documents on the Pc and my documents have a lot of directories/folders and files, the OS will locate all the folders and files before actually shoing a picture in my documents.
The ppc does the same, the less folders you make the better, the faster it runs, the amount of files doesnt matter, the OS keeps special tags on folders and these takes time to read, (NO, the OS doesnt check for sud-folders unless the folder it is contained in is beeing opened)
having less folders increases the speed on the device.
2) then i installed the camera patch, then the album patch to go with it
3) i then installed the keboard patch, you need this..
4) i did not install the fix buttons patch (This is what i think slows down the BA) forgive me if i am wrong, but i leave things as is.
5) i placed all the missing apps in programs, so i can use them just as wn2003
6) i installed all my programs
skyforce 1
spb pocket plus
quickverse bible
adobe reader
photo viewer
7) i then set up my internet connections for att
8) i turn on button lock
9) i turned off all sounds
then i reset...
thats all i did, now my ppc is fast, i am not even using pocket hack master, i didnt even install it (the truth is that i forgot, i didnt see the 10 sec pauses anymore, i power off the device for two hours, power on, no pauses.
a) phone perfect
b) camera perfect
c) backlights perfect
d) keyboard perfect
e) games run fast without a glitch
I dont know what happened, i cant explain it, maybe this is just by luck or by chance, but evrything works well and now for two days works better and faster than ever before.
try, maybe this works for you.
thanks to all the programmers that made this possible, i couldnt have gotten this far without you guys.
let me know what happened or what you think

Hey Mutty...I'm game...will give your method a try and report...you need to make a small edit... "then press the e (internet key), it will reset itself, this takes about 5 secs..." Pressing the e will not do anything, you have to actually press the envolope key.
I have a question do we have to move all the default folders (eg Personal, My Music..etc) in My Documents into one folder or just leave the default folders as is and create a new folder (eg my files) and add all future folders inside this one?

3) i then installed the keboard patch, you need this..
WHAT KEYBOARD PATCH?

Localized Keyboard cabs for different HW-Keyboard Layout...
Here on FTP...

I think it's probably the "Enable KITL = No" option that makes the difference. KITL (Kernel Independent Transport Layer) is a diagnostic mode for developers to debug their drivers and apps, so it's very likely that leaving this enabled will slow things down.
-no1

is it as fast as WM2003se?

i dont know what Kitl is, but one thing i know is that the device worked bettr than before, no pauses, even till now.. I just have to get used to having "ok" and the "windows" key set as soft keys. its kinda good though, i use them as default, for notifications and contacts. pretty cool.
You leave all default folders as is, only create one folder to store all your other files and folders.

where do you find the option to disable KITL
maybe that will ven make my device runs even much faster.
And yes its faster than 2003se... dont take my word for it though..
Try it yourselves, you will see.. even the phone works better.
1) no ten secs pauses on wakup
2) phone works better and responds better
3) I played skyforce without a glitch many times and it is a graphics driven fast pace game.

i have a keyboard patch, i dont remember where i get it from, but i think its used to turn on the backlight on the keyboard, i am not sure, but guess i just installed it

Guys just wanna ask did anyone has problem when recieving sms, backlight didn't on? just vibrate and ring (i set to vibrate and ring) but no light? anyone has the same experience?

It is suposed to be that way

oops!... :lol:

MUTTY said:
where do you find the option to disable KITL
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The KITL option is the first of the three options in the boot menu list - the one you said you set to "No".

well im giving yr method a go too, do you have the wifi problem?

nope, no wifi issue

Holy sh!"&%§! :shock: Do you mean that if WiFi's on when you turn off the unit (not soft reset, just suspend with the power button) WiFi will still be active when you turn the unit back on again?

wifi caused me a lot of problems. I had it on, and left it on accidentally. it went into sleep or suspend mode of course, but i thought wifi would go off as usual so i didnt check it. Ohh damn, it drained my battery dead. The worst part is that when the battery went dead, i couldnt make or recieve calls for a few minutes, then the whole thing just went dead. on reserve battery. i had to wait till i got home to recharge. half a day of my life was wasted. i depend on my phone very much.

OK, but have you tested if wifi will still be on if you turn suspend with wifi on and then powers on the PPC again? That's what I'm looking for.

holy moly, it only works some times. wifi keeps on only sometimes whaen my devise is suspended. say about 40% of the time. I DONT LIKE THIS....

That's 40 % more than most people get. It's the main problem right now, that BlueTooth and WiFi is turned off when the unit is suspended.

Total System Failure

A few weeks ago, I flashed my wm5 rom to wm6 because whenever I used to soft reset the device, it would not turn on again without faking a hard reset and then canceling out. WM6 worked perfectly out of the gate for the first few weeks. I use the following extensively.
-- SPB Finance - stored on main memory
-- SPB Backup - backups stored on storage card
-- SPB Insight - content on storage card
-- PCM Keyboard 0.9
-- Resco Explorer
-- MS Reader
-- BatteryStatus
-- Direct Push on 24/7
-- Overclocked to 283
I powered the device on and noticed the signal strength was quite low, and it tried to connect to GPRS, but was failing. I clicked "Hide", and immediately, full white screen, and complete lockup. I didn't panic yet, and soft reset the device. It got to the green win mobile screen and then nothing... completely dead device, no lights... nothing.
I tried everything possible, including leaving the battery out for 20 min, but no luck at all. Then I tried to hard reset the device... but it said something about wiping the fat table, and it reboot, and I noticed on the main O2 splash screen, it would give the IPL, SPL, and no GSM radio version... and then would reboot again. I tried hard reseting a few times and each time the same thing!
When I soft reset the device, the orange message light would turn on, but the LCD would not power up, and then it would just stay that way. Plugging in the charger would cause the device to charge.
I tried removing the storage card, but no luck. Then for whatever reason I tried a hard reset again and this time it worked! Almost... When the reset was complete, I could not get any phone signal. The phone would keep trying to connect, then disconnect and disable itself, then try again every 2 seconds or so. It was as if the radio wasn't there anymore. No matter what SIM I put in, no radio, even though a TYTN sitting beside me got full signal on any SIM I threw at it.
I decided to re-flash the official ROM from my laptop, and now I had the radio working... but the phone would not charge, and activesync would not work. The USB was missing. When I tapped the battery icon, it said "unknown power level" and that was that.
After a soft reset, USB was back, and the device managed to stabilize. I reduced the overclock to 260, and it has been running fine ever since. I loaded all the programs back again except for SPB Insight. Reason is after installing this program previously, I would tether the device to the computer to sync the channels... and it would... but at random, it would mess up my direct push/activesync so that when the device was un-tethered, direct push would not work. I'm a bit worried of putting that program back on.
I've noticed a slew of disabled orbit threads lately, and just wanted to add my experience to this.
N.

"I think he bricked his freekin' Dash!"

My Dash started acting up the other day and I am hoping someone here can help.
It is responding very slowly to most key presses, sometimes taking 5-10 minutes to, say, open a folder or bring up a settings screen. Sometimes they don't come up at all and it appears frozen, requiring a "yank the battery" reset procedure.
ActiveSync on both home and work PC's detects the device but cannot connect to it.
On bootup, the Windows Mobile splash will be displayed much longer than it used to (3 - 4 minutes) before I finally get a desktop.
The time on the main (top) sliding panel is often the last to (slowly) appear on the display when "waking up".
Email has stopped working in and out. I can receive calls, and Bluetooth is working, but often the ringer will continue for 5 -10 seconds after I answer, and transferring calls to my headset takes about 5 - 10 seconds after that.
Sometimes, settings changes won't "take" and will reset themselves back to their previous values.
Hard resets haven't helped, and nothing seems changed after them, which is odd.
The only thing I have changed recently is I installed the ODSHOW weather thing a few weeks ago (which seriously fubar'd my phone and it was all I could do to get the "normal" top panel back) as far as I know it's uninstalled now.
And all of this started happening after the battery had run completely down and the phone shut itself off. I have already tried another battery and the behavior hasn't changed.
I would love to flash it as I think the problem is the O/S is hosed, but is that possible without being able to connect to a PC through ActiveSync? Say, by copying the ROM package to the SD card and running it from there?
I am running RickyWatts/Kavana's WM 6.1 ROM, btw.
Many thanks if you have any suggestions.
-GoJ

Ghost of Jaco said:
My Dash started acting up the other day and I am hoping someone here can help.
It is responding very slowly to most key presses, sometimes taking 5-10 minutes to, say, open a folder or bring up a settings screen. Sometimes they don't come up at all and it appears frozen, requiring a "yank the battery" reset procedure.
ActiveSync on both home and work PC's detects the device but cannot connect to it.
On bootup, the Windows Mobile splash will be displayed much longer than it used to (3 - 4 minutes) before I finally get a desktop.
The time on the main (top) sliding panel is often the last to (slowly) appear on the display when "waking up".
Email has stopped working in and out. I can receive calls, and Bluetooth is working, but often the ringer will continue for 5 -10 seconds after I answer, and transferring calls to my headset takes about 5 - 10 seconds after that.
Sometimes, settings changes won't "take" and will reset themselves back to their previous values.
Hard resets haven't helped, and nothing seems changed after them, which is odd.
The only thing I have changed recently is I installed the ODSHOW weather thing a few weeks ago (which seriously fubar'd my phone and it was all I could do to get the "normal" top panel back) as far as I know it's uninstalled now.
And all of this started happening after the battery had run completely down and the phone shut itself off. I have already tried another battery and the behavior hasn't changed.
I would love to flash it as I think the problem is the O/S is hosed, but is that possible without being able to connect to a PC through ActiveSync? Say, by copying the ROM package to the SD card and running it from there?
I am running RickyWatts/Kavana's WM 6.1 ROM, btw.
Many thanks if you have any suggestions.
-GoJ
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Here's what you do.Turn the phone off, holding the camera button down for about 10 seconds , plug the usb cable that should give you the bootloader screen,you can get the official tmo 6.0 on there, it has to be an official rom. Once you got the phone with the 6.0 running, set up active sync and then flash which ever 6.1 rom you want. Good luck.
Here's the link for the official 6.0 rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381726&highlight=official+roms
Her's the 6.1 rom link. I recomend V24 w/opera http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3315417&postcount=1

Thanks rolo. Let me make sure I have this:
1) Turn off the phone while holding down the camera button for about ten seconds.
2)Release the camera button and plug in the USB cable. Bootloader screen will appear.
3) From the bootloader screen I can put the TMO ROM on.
Is that correct?
Thanks again!

Ghost of Jaco said:
Thanks rolo. Let me make sure I have this:
1) Turn off the phone while holding down the camera button for about ten seconds.
2)Release the camera button and plug in the USB cable. Bootloader screen will appear.
3) From the bootloader screen I can put the TMO ROM on.
Is that correct?
Thanks again!
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No!
1. Turn off phone
2. after phone's off, press and hold the camera button.
3. after holding it for about 10 seconds, plug the usb like you're gonna use active sync.
4.That will give you the bootloader screen, and you can now install official 6.0.
5. after you got 6.0 set. set up active sync.
6. I would wait about 10 or 15 minutes, then flash 6.1

roloracer said:
No!
1. Turn off phone
2. after phone's off, press and hold the camera button.
3. after holding it for about 10 seconds, plug the usb like you're gonna use active sync.
4.That will give you the bootloader screen, and you can now install official 6.0.
5. after you got 6.0 set. set up active sync.
6. I would wait about 10 or 15 minutes, then flash 6.1
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Ah! Ok, now I have it in bootloader mode. Thanks.
I d/l'd the Official TMO_1.22.531.6 file and unpacked it, but the 40 MB RAR file contains only a 60 KB(?) file named RUU_signed.nbh
What do I do with that?

Ghost of Jaco said:
Ah! Ok, now I have it in bootloader mode. Thanks.
I d/l'd the Official TMO_1.22.531.6 file and unpacked it, but the 40 MB RAR file contains only a 60 KB(?) file named RUU_signed.nbh
What do I do with that?
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the phone should recognize the 6.0 rom update. If it doesn't, unpack it again, wait until the screen ask you if you did everything to establish connection, click next and attempt the bootloader sequence again.

ah-HA!! I did it! Officially un-bricked! I downloaded the latest ROM for the T-Mobile site.
ActiveSync now works, I can receive Outlook email, and have even paired up my Aliph Jawbone via Bluetooth! Thanks so much Rolo!! You rock, dude!
I think I might wait a bit before flashing a custom ROM. I'd like to have sliding panels and such, but I'm not in a hurry.
-GoJ

Tweaked removed post as you obviously found the other .zip needed

Ghost of Jaco said:
ah-HA!! I did it! Officially un-bricked! I downloaded the latest ROM for the T-Mobile site.
ActiveSync now works, I can receive Outlook email, and have even paired up my Aliph Jawbone via Bluetooth! Thanks so much Rolo!! You rock, dude!
I think I might wait a bit before flashing a custom ROM. I'd like to have sliding panels and such, but I'm not in a hurry.
-GoJ
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I'm glad everything worked out well

Same problem with an O2 XDA COSMO.
To put it back to live I need an original O2 XDA COSMO Rom.
Please help or I have to put my loved Cosmo to the bay.

chubbichubbi said:
Same problem with an O2 XDA COSMO.
To put it back to live I need an original O2 XDA COSMO Rom.
Please help or I have to put my loved Cosmo to the bay.
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Yep, you need the official rom that the phone used from factory. Check for your rom on the official rom thread on the sticky. You might want to pm profezza and ask him if the O2 XDA Cosmo, Orange SPV E600 and the Rogers HTC S621 use the same rom. If they do, he has your official rom there.

FM Radio problem

Hi all, first time posting on this forum
Had the Desire since last Friday and for the first time tried out the FM Radio on it. All seems well at first but after a few minutes use the app just stops responding completely and the Radio continues to play whatever your currently listening to. You can still manipulate the on screen buttons but nothing happens at all. You cant change stations, re-search for stations doesnt work its just effectively stops the current station from playing, or change anything via the menu button. The app power off button on the top right stops working and the only thing you can do to make the Radio work again is rebooting the phone
This is very frustrating because i use the radio on my phone alot normally. Is this a software fault or hardware fault or something else im missing here?

This would be a software issue. Would you be willing to try a Hard Reset? By performing a Hard Reset, this will return your phone to the state it was in before the first time you turned it on (factory settings). This will hopefully eradicate any software bugs that you are experiencing with the handset.
Note: A Hard Reset will not remove the data and files that are in your phone’s microSD card. However, a it will permanently delete all your data and customized settings, and will also remove any applications you've downloaded and installed. Be sure to back up any data and files you want to keep before you do a Hard Reset.
A Hard Reset can be performed using two different methods:
Method 1: Performing a factory reset via settings
The most convenient way to do a factory reset is via the phone settings.
1. From the Home screen, press MENU and then tap Settings.
2. Scroll down the screen and then tap Privacy > Factory data reset.
3. On the Factory data reset screen, tap Reset phone, and then tap Erase everything.
Method 2: Performing a factory reset using phone buttons
If you cannot turn on your phone or access the phone settings, you can still perform a factory reset by using the buttons on the phone.
1. With the phone turned off, press and hold the VOLUME DOWN button, and then briefly press the POWER button.
2. Wait for the screen with the three Android images to appear, and then release the VOLUME DOWN button..
3. Press VOLUME DOWN to select CLEAR STORAGE, and then press POWER.
4. Press VOLUME UP to start the factory reset.

I had the same issue a while ago, I haven't used the radio since as I can't be bothered with the hassle of finding out why.

Factory reset seems to have worked a charm Will test some more later but seems to have corrected a right pain of a problem
Nice easy solution, thank you Mastoid, your help was greatly appriciated

woody75 said:
Factory reset seems to had worked a charm Will test some more later but seems to have correct a right pain of a problem
Nice easy solution, thank you Mastoid, your help was greatly appriciated
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no problem Bud, anytime

No, i was wrong. It hasnt sorted the problem as its back exactly as before. Is it just a poorly written app or a fault elsewhere

Ok after the problem persisting i contacted Orange and got the handset replaced but to my disappointment the new unit is doing exactly the same thing
I havnt even been able to pinpoint what triggers this from happening. Sometimes it happens after a few minutes with it on in the background whilst casually playing with other apps, other times after it stops working and locks up after a phone call and other times after the Radio has been playing and the the phone is otherwise idle and you press the power button to bring the screen back on
The only things that are the same on both the old and new handsets are the sim, earphones, and 8gb SD card that were swapped between the old and new phone but surely they could not be the issue???
I have read on other threads/forums that a few other people are having identical problems but im really at a loss and cant believe its because i have had 2 faulty handsets in a row with the same problem

It's not a handset problem, the FM radio app locks the phone up so something is going rogue.

The strange thing is my Dad got the Desire as well and ive tested the Radio a couple of times now at length and his works perfectly without freezing up. Could it be something sim card related? I shoved in my own reformatted 8gb sandisk SD card...could there have been data on the original SD card that it accesses whilst the FM Radio is in use and as the original 4gb card's not there the Radio player locks up? Corrupted software twice on 2 seperate handsets? I really havn't got enough tech knowledge to know if these things are possibilites or if im way off track

I would guess it is most likely due to another application running in the background which is taking resources or preventing the radio application from getting resources and then the app starts to lock up. I really don't feel like removing my applications 1 by 1 and testing though.

I had a similar problem it turned out to be the task killer I was using. I put it on the ignore list and restarted the phone and its working normally now.
I don't know if its same issue as yours but might be worth a try

Unfortunately not - the only app i installed was 3G Watchdog. Suppose the only thing to do now is uninstall that too and retest

I have exactly same problem , it's totally random, we need to contact HTC about this problem , it is clearly software problem , really i think that all units are faulty ,manu people just didn't test radio yet. My friend also has same problem.
Europe stations.

ok , i just contacted htc support and their response is to try to boot desire in safe mode, i just did that , and again freeze , radio is playing in background, but GUI is totally out of sync in fm radio app , buttons doesn't react

mines been fine, mines unlocked - used radio loads this last week, on and off for around seven hours a day, is you're desire branded/locked to a network? maybe oranges software?

i've the same problem, also randomly the radio starts to scan for new stations... it's really annoying but i managed a way to stop it, simply putting my finger on the "picker" a couple of seconds stops the scan.
I've got also a problem while listening to mp3s, the phone randomly switchs between tracks when in standby.

SLOW and my contacts are not showing, but are there if someone calls?

This is the third time I have had this problem. Randomly my phone slows down to a halt, the data connection does not work, most setting icons take 10 minutes to load if they do at all yet my texts still work.
There are NO apps running in the task manager.
I have removed most of my programs.
My mods are just removing the TF3D crap, nothing serious.
My stock task manager icon is missing from the top right.
and when I rebooted the phone I would get two errors, one with opera and the other with ~pcom-something.exe"
The other times I reset to unit to "factory out of the box" but I am sick of resetting up the phone with my apps, mods and such.
Has anyone seen this before?

What rom do you have on your phone ? What do you mean by removing all the tf3d crap? And have you flashed different roms without using task29 in between? It sounds like its time to task29 and reflash.

Sorry, I removed the TF3D stuff with mostly registry edits. I am still on a stock 6.1 rom.

Well, it could be pretty work-intensive to try and track down exactly whats causing your slowdowns and freezes, and since you have had to keep on hard resetting it, I would think that you dont really have much to lose by flashing a new rom. If you like the stock 6.1, you could just download it from the Windows Mobile Rom Developement subforum. Alls you would have to do is hard spl your phone and then flash it, it should take less than an hour start to finish, including downloading the rom.

Also:
My stock task manager icon is also missing from the top right.
and when I rebooted the phone I would get two errors, one with opera and the other with ~pcom-something.exe"
I can set this back to a stock ROM with the phone itself and I have all my apps on my card. Doing all the registry things is a pain only because I did not memorize them... YET, haha.
Is there a better task manager to see whats eating up resources?

If you're running the ROM that actually came stock on the Tilt II, then the hot fixes for the issues you are describing can be found here on HTC's website.
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/

I'm on verizon, will it matter?

Mother F-er.
Just rebooted to try and get the errors again and instead got this:
"The device is unable to boot because either you have turned off the device incorrectly or tired to install an application from untrusted source.
Press Volume Up to reset your device or press any other button to cancel.
The operation will delete all of your personal data and restore the device to it's factory default settings."
I guess my decision is made, but wow I am not happy. This phone may go into a lake.
... edit:
Volume up does not do anything. AWEsome.

Yeah it matters, here are some Hot fixes for you're touch pro II. Don't know if they will help ya though: http://www.htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=250&act=sd&cat=all

I took the battery out again and put it back in. Same message and the volume up did not work again.
So I pressed volume up about 100 times then held down the power button. Nothing changed.
Then.... I slide open the keyboard and closed it. Put the unit down and about 45 seconds later I heard all 100 volume up presses in a row. The stock WM volume menu was over the windows boot screen, and then the task bar showed up. Then the unit shut off and rebooted but took forever. It looked normal , but SLOW.
Now:
"A problem has occurred with Opera9.exe"
then:
"A problem has occurred with cprog.exe"
WTF is going on. I have not installed/uninstalled ANYthing for weeks.

set the phone to factory defaults last night and changed everything back. Meh.
Thanks for the ideas guys and I will be doing those "hotfixes" very soon!
Cheers,
Dan

Well, this phone is doing it yet again.
It barely works.
everytime I press something it takes between 5 seconds and 1 minute to do it.
i have no signal
most programs do not even try to start
resets change nothing (done this about 100 times today)
What the hell is going on with this phone? This was just as random. Was working as normal until around noon and then it just slowed way down and I could not make calls or answer them.
Grr.

so:
when I reboot the phone, I have the green start up screen for ~5 minutes.
the phone does not work after it fully starts up.
I can not open "remove programs"
I do not have the task manager in the top task bar, but when I go into settings and open task manager, there is nothing running.
I run "cleanRAM" on level 3 and there is no change.
It is still very slow I have not installed anything new at all, so this sudden change reasoning is unknown. This may be my last windows phone as I am growing tired of these random major failures.

Well verizon sent me a new phone.
*PHUCK*, its WM6.5 and I hate it.