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So, i've read that according to this: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...e-now-with-hboot-0-80-and-os-to-1-21-support/ there is a few limitations with the root process atm, though i don't fully understand what it means, but am just wondering, will you be able to use those apps that needs root access with the current state of rooting the Desire? Like Market Access?
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So, i've read that according to this: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...e-now-with-hboot-0-80-and-os-to-1-21-support/ there is a few limitations with the root process atm, though i don't fully understand what it means, but am just wondering, will you be able to use those apps that needs root access with the current state of rooting the Desire? Like Market Access?
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I haven't read your link, but the root process is painless and works perfectly. All apps that need root access work apart from ones that need rw access to system. System is read only while the phone is booted. The only app that springs to mind is metamorph.
Apps like titanium backup, market enabler all work perfectly.
Okay, thanks for the answer, though since you haven't read the link, which root process did you use on your Desire? The one from the sticky in the Desire development sub-forum here?
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Okay, thanks for the answer, though since you haven't read the link, which root process did you use on your Desire? The one from the sticky in the Desire development sub-forum here?
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All the information you need is in the sticky, its well worth searching and reading the links before posting the question. This has been asked many times before and the thread is very helpful.
Hi, I think I've already met with those limitations I couldn't get the (ratson's) Autokiller to work on my rooted Desire. It won't kill processes/programs automatically in the background, just manually part works. I' ve tried out everything
imi36 said:
Hi, I think I've already met with those limitations I couldn't get the (ratson's) Autokiller to work on my rooted Desire. It won't kill processes/programs automatically in the background, just manually part works. I' ve tried out everything
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What makes you think that's a root limitation? The application is bugged. Contact the developer.
Hello everyone
I am looking for some guidance as I have a stock DHD 2.3 (freshly updated) If there's someone who can tell me the steps and eventually the links because I don't know the order of the rooting process nor where to find the tools I shall hit the thanks button madly and hope I won't end with a big digital brick..
also any recommended ROMS?
thanks in advance
Well, you need to downgrade first DOWNGRADE LINK.
Then after radio S-OFF (you dont have to, but it'll be much better) you can install ROM Manager and flash CWM recovery.
The CWM recovery will allow you to flash new Custom ROMs to your device.
You can then go back up to 2.3, or do whatever you want really.
I can't suggest any ROM to you, because everyone has their own taste in ROMs. I flashed a Stock-ROOTED 2.3 ROM and modified it to my liking using many different MODs out there.
But the android development section contains many different ROMs.
EDIT: CWM recovery will add many advantages to your phone. One big advantage is backing up your phones current ROM (aka Nandroid).
If anything goes wrong while trying to flash other ROMs or MODs, you can just simply restore your backup (and if you know where the problem is, you can restore only part of the backup). This feature is what made me install (or flash) CWM recovery.
And plus, it makes flashing ROMs and other stuff so easyyyyyy!!!
This forum isn't here to hold peoples hands to get them through rooting processes etc. All information is gathered in quite simple guides that are available for everyone to read so we won't have to explain over and over again to the thousands of new users how to do everything. Your question have been asked countless times and you would have found multiple threads with everything explained thouroughly if you used the search function (read the rules). But instead you created a new thread and made it harder for the next person to find information because this forum is filling up with a lot of similar threads that could have been avoided if people spent some time searching the forum. I don't mean to be offensive, but you have to be able to do something on your own if you want to enter the world of custom roms etc. New users should do some researching so that they know what they're getting in to and not just jump in head first and hope that somebody does everything for them
Anyway, here's something to get you started:
EDIT: Better guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964996
Edit: youtube video by xda-developers.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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Edit: youtube video by xda-developers.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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HAHAHA, yea i just watched that, its so true though!!!
Hey! thanks again, both of you.. I just needed the order, I'll search over the forum for anything else. Hawks556, you are right but you are rude though.. you don't have to be so severe, it is a forum an I felt free to ask.. of course I'm not the first to have this question, I'm not one of a kind..
again thank you for your help and indeed, the youtube video is soo true! )
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Hey! thanks again, both of you.. I just needed the order, I'll search over the forum for anything else. Hawks556, you are right but you are rude though.. you don't have to be so severe, it is a forum an I felt free to ask.. of course I'm not the first to have this question, I'm not one of a kind..
again thank you for your help and indeed, the youtube video is soo true! )
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I'm sorry if I sounded harsh, I didn't mean to. Just tried to make my point clear. (The fact that 3 or 4 similar threads was started just today might also have something to do with it ). I wish you all the luck with your project
It's ok and you are right, there's no arguing
now I have a question: regarding the goldcard, I don't understand if I have to get a different card from my actual 8gb I'm using, make it a gold card and then switch back to my non-gold former card, or I have to use my phone all the time with this new goldcard??
thanks
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It's ok and you are right, there's no arguing
now I have a question: regarding the goldcard, I don't understand if I have to get a different card from my actual 8gb I'm using, make it a gold card and then switch back to my non-gold former card, or I have to use my phone all the time with this new goldcard??
thanks
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try here
http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-make-gold-card-for-htc-desire-hd/
I use a different card generally it is only used to bypass security... so does not need to be used all the time .... if you use your normal card backup it up as you may trash
I tried to get Visionary+ but it has Trojan virus... anywhere else safer?!
and I don't get it, after permaroot is S-OFF (radio s-off) and after that what?! after my phone is S-OFF I install RomManager or is there sth in between?
Heres a genuine link .. LINK
well, after S-OFF, you install ROM Manager, then choose the first option from ROM Manager ('flash clockworkMod Recovery').
--ROM Manager and CWM recovery is not a MUST, but is needed to flash ROM and MODs to your device.
let me make it clear...
radio S-OFF is to allow you to flash new radios(if you dont know what a radio is, search ).
ENG S-OFF allows you to do more extreme things and can get you out of a 'nearly bricked' device (so i've heard). It makes your phone VERY flexible and allows you to modify nearly everything!
^--this is to my knowledge--^
anyway, this isnt needed to be rooted, it just increases the amount of thing you can do with your phone.
CWM recovery flashes over your stock HTC Recovery. Its also not a must, but also allows MUCH more flexibility.
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I tried to get Visionary+ but it has Trojan virus... anywhere else safer?!
and I don't get it, after permaroot is S-OFF (radio s-off) and after that what?! after my phone is S-OFF I install RomManager or is there sth in between?
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Ignore that virus warning, it'd be your AV identifying it as a rootkit, which oddly enough it is. If you can add it to your whitelist or disable your AV whilst downloading/moving it from your PC to your phone.
thanks for clearing the things for me.. as for the link, there's the virus.. This is what my Nod32 says.. I've searched on other sites to download but still the same..
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Ignore that virus warning, it'd be your AV identifying it as a rootkit, which oddly enough it is. If you can add it to your whitelist or disable your AV whilst downloading/moving it from your PC to your phone.
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Ok, I'll try this way but I'm afraid it'll harm my PC.. ) anyone who risked?
tibrocks said:
Ok, I'll try this way but I'm afraid it'll harm my PC.. ) anyone who risked?
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yes ..the are more than few Thousands of us ..(more than 10 000 only on Android Revolution HD)
just follow the indications in the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
and everything will be just fine
and if something doesnt works the way is supposed to be...believe me ..YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG...these steps are verified
MAY THE DROID BE WITH YOU
What have I done wrong? attempting to downgrade, this is what I got (every time)
it worked after reboot
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it worked after reboot
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Now that you have root and s-off....finaly you are really abbe to Brick your phone ....i'm just jocking enjoy your DHD..... and from all the ROMS i recommend Android Revolution HD
si daca ai nelamuriri vis a vis de ceva ...trimite-mi un PM
Hi,
I have a stock Wildfire which I'm perfectly happy with. However, over time I purchased a few apps from the market and would like to take a backup.
What can I do? My ideal would be a simple application with which to switch on/off root permissions before starting the backup process - read-only access to the system and data partition would be perfectly sufficient.
Is this possible? I read about Temp Root in the forums, but couldn't find a clear statement which way (if any) would work on the Wildfire. Also, is read-only root with access to all partitions even possible without flashing or do I need a custom ROM for this?
As I understand, another way would be to flash a new recovery image and use Nandroid backup. However, I'd rather avoid flashing anything.
I'd be glad if someone could give me a few pointers.
Get Visionary+. This app can do a temp root easily.
It's meant for Desire Z, but it still works. If you want permroot then use AlphaRevX instead, the method this app uses does not apply to Wildfire.
For backing up I would recommend Titanium Backup.
Why would you want to temproot anyway? You can use AlphaRevX to get S-OFF and flash custom ROMs.
If you want to do warranty return, just use a RUU tool. It clears everything back to factory state.
Just wondering why you want to backup the paid apps? Can't you just reinstall them when needed as your license is on your Google account right?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk
YES, no need to backup the paid apps purchased from market.
Even after hard reset, if u use the same google market account to install those apps, ur licence should be back. Licence should be stored in your account AFAIK....
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If you want to do warranty return, just use a RUU tool. It clears everything back to factory state.
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A ruu doesn't reset the s-off state! The only way you can flash a new hboot is when it has a version higher the the 6.x hboot that alpharevx puts on your phone. It just like htc's hboot: you cannot downgrade it.
If you want s-on again, you need a tool from AlphaRev that does it for you. But I don't know if that is released yet.
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YES, no need to backup the paid apps purchased from market.
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It is? Super, somehow it never occured to me that the purchase could be tied to the account instead of to the phone. Thanks for the hint!
That solves my immediate problem, I guess I can forgo a backup then.
What would happen if I entered the same googlemail-account into a new phone: Would the old one be deactivated then? One might want to use the same mail account on two or more phones. Would he then also get access to all of the applications on all phones, or would it simply not work at all?
Even after hard reset, if u use the same google market account to install those apps, ur licence should be back. Licence should be stored in your account AFAIK....
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I never entered a "google market account" ID, I guess my googlemail-account (which I created on setting up the phone for the first time) was used for that automatically. Or has such an account been automatically created for me without any further prompting?
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150d
xc1024 said:
Get Visionary+. This app can do a temp root easily.
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Thanks, I'll remember that.
Why would you want to temproot anyway? You can use AlphaRevX to get S-OFF and flash custom ROMs.
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That's just it: the phone is working great, I'm really not missing anything. I wouldn't even know what to use root for. ;-)
On the other hand, I have a little experience with cooked ROMs from my previous phone, a WM-based Kaiser. Granted the two might not be directly comparable, but back then I had a lot of issues with stability, working-but-not-perfect bootloader, GPS sensitivity, radio ROMs...
I'd rather not take any chances now, at least not until I have a good reason to do so.
Regards,
150d
150d said:
On the other hand, I have a little experience with cooked ROMs from my previous phone, a WM-based Kaiser. Granted the two might not be directly comparable, but back then I had a lot of issues with stability, working-but-not-perfect bootloader, GPS sensitivity, radio ROMs...
I'd rather not take any chances now, at least not until I have a good reason to do so.
Regards,
150d
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And it always should be this way this wilfire forum is getting stalked by people who want root and new ROMs, but i'll bet that most of them will be satisfied with the stock one.
The only reason why you should root is to install usefull apps that requier root (like titanium backup) and to install new ROMs. Those roms provide updates that htc disable for us: gingerbread should be more powerfull and JIT, something that can make your phone two to three times faster, is disabled because sense can't handle it. But you are right: custom roms will never be bugg free. But on the other hand, the stock rom isn't bugg free as well
Altough I'm on the stock rom ATM, I will change if I have the time. "Basic" things like gps and stuff will work on most roms (unless reported otherwise), so you do not have to be afraid of that. The most problematic things can always be solved, but most of the time it requiers a lot of time untill you have figured out what exactly you should do to solve your problem. So do not try to change rom if you do not have the time for it.
To finalize this off topic statement: it is usefull to gain root: you can do much more with it than just "flash roms". But it absorbs a lot of time, and you shouldn't start with it if you do not have any. But when you commit yourself to it, you will gain a lot.
Erwin
150d said:
What would happen if I entered the same googlemail-account into a new phone: Would the old one be deactivated then? One might want to use the same mail account on two or more phones. Would he then also get access to all of the applications on all phones, or would it simply not work at all?
I never entered a "google market account" ID, I guess my googlemail-account (which I created on setting up the phone for the first time) was used for that automatically. Or has such an account been automatically created for me without any further prompting?
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150d
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Don't know about that thing. They shouldn't be discussed too anyway. But I strongly think that google knows the device identity of the market attached account.
Yes, google account / gmail account / maket account all are the same.
edit : And better not to speak about cooked roms untill u check them. There are many people pretty much satisfied with those.
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And it always should be this way this wilfire forum is getting stalked by people who want root and new ROMs, but i'll bet that most of them will be satisfied with the stock one.
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I saw a TV spot when the first iPad was released. They interviewed a guy waiting in line in front of an Apple store for why he wanted an iPad. He said: "I don't even know what it is, but I'm sure I need it!"
One can only wish for customers like that!
Those roms provide updates that htc disable for us: gingerbread should be more powerfull and JIT, something that can make your phone two to three times faster, is disabled because sense can't handle it.
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I didn't know that. Yes, sometimes I do wish it would be quicker to handle, I have a feeling that sometimes the CPU is maxed out so it can't handle the touch screen any more. But to me it's only a minor hassle.
To finalize this off topic statement: it is usefull to gain root: you can do much more with it than just "flash roms". But it absorbs a lot of time...
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I believe it, both of it. I've owned the phone for about half a year now and I'm still adjusting to how much more it can do for me than my old phone could. It goes beyond just having an application to do some job - it all is much more "usable" than before. But I can really, really not imagine what else I would like to do with the phone. Maybe there is something that I can't even think of now, but so far... ;-)
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150d
after some research unrevoked3 seems to be the easiest way to root my HTC Desire.
but there are no instructions on how to use it... i know you just download the software and install the drivers etc... but i mean what state does it leave my phone in?
will it have all of its text messages saved, settings saved, etc...
will my sd card be wiped completely should i back it up? should i buy a cheap one to root it with etc...
i know 2.3 is coming out soon for HTC Desire but my phones branded with vodafone. should i just debrand it and wait for an offical update?
ive been wanting to root my phone for a while but ive got no idea which roms are best or anything.
how do i back up my sd card? how do i save my texts to the sd card for back up?
any help will be appreciated thanks.
Hi welcome to the site. There is a wealth of information in these forums and sometimes it is hard to single out exactly what you are looking for. Read this to start and then ask some specific questions. Seek much advice before rooting yourself.
i was there 3 months ago and now i flash and customise with reckless abandonment!
Unrevoked3 is definitely the easiest way. You can find quick guide for this method in Cyanogenmod wiki 'Full Update Guide' (google it)...
hi , just follow these vids , it makes it really easy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
thanks guys, ive been wanting to root for ages as well but i fininally decided to do it recently
right after trying to use unrevoke3 it came up with a write error. basically saying it cant write the new file.
after more search it is because there isnt enough room. after i deleted a few apps i had 70mb free phone memory and 8gb free sd card memory.
ran unrevoke3 again, same error.... i dont know what i could be doing wrong =\
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right after trying to use unrevoke3 it came up with a write error. basically saying it cant write the new file.
after more search it is because there isnt enough room. after i deleted a few apps i had 70mb free phone memory and 8gb free sd card memory.
ran unrevoke3 again, same error.... i dont know what i could be doing wrong =\
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Have you enabled USB debugging ?
yeah, followed all the instructions, even installed the Hboot drivers etc...
just keeps coming up with the same error =\
gonna try it on ubuntu again.
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yeah, followed all the instructions, even installed the Hboot drivers etc...
just keeps coming up with the same error =\
gonna try it on ubuntu again.
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I gave up on Windows a while ago, Ubuntu is better, I think.
still no dice....
do i need to unbrand/debrand the phone first?
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still no dice....
do i need to unbrand/debrand the phone first?
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No. You might do yourself a favor by creating a goldcard and keeping it safe.
Yea sorry, I know there are tons of threads on rooting this stupid thing but I've been trying out so many different ways today and failed that I'm sick of and tired of this stupid piece of crap.
This is my brother's phone, and it's run out of internal memory (seriously 300 mb?), anyway he has like 10 apps installed on the internal memory, these plus all the updates have filled it up. So now I'm trying to root it so I can swap the SD cards (already got him a 32 gig microSD for that).
And oh boy am I sick of this thing, so far I've tried multiple options and none work, and some are too complicated with poor instructions for me to figure out.
Rooting my Galaxy W was so easy and this thing here just makes me hate everything.
Stuff I've tried:
Sony Xperia Flasher
ERoot
Flash tool
bootloader
I'm at the end of my wits here, completely frustrated and yea, if this where my phone I would have already smashed it with a hammer.
I really don't have time for this sh*t since I have to study for a big test, so I would appreciate something super simple and fast, like with the Galaxy W.
Again, sorry for sounding like a **** and creating yet another thread, but I'm desperate.
Thanks for any help.
dial *#*#7378423#*#* on your phone then go to service info then to configuration & at the bottom what does it say regarding your bootloader ?
Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes
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Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes
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this is good,what version of android do you have ?
It says Android Version 2.3.4
But build number 4.02.A0.69
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It says Android Version 2.3.4
But build number 4.02.A0.69
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ok i used this app to root my phone (google it or search this forum for it,easy to find):
DooMLoRD_v4_ROOT-zergRush-busybox-su
& i used this video to unlock bootloader:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-crbhMFSuaQ
Thanks , I'll try that tomorrow, right now I'm just too tiered.
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Thanks , I'll try that tomorrow, right now I'm just too tiered.
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if you need help send me PM & i will reply back in this thread. take care
If you want you can unlock the bootloader (loosing your warranty, of course), and then install a newer version of android up to 4.2.2, which is much more smoother than 2.3.4 and has much more features...
Madness, if you can't figure it out you're either not reading enough or just being lazy. There's about 4 or 5 links in my guide with how to root, add to that the amount of other threads there is, starting a new one means your lazy, because you've read nothing whilst signing up and just want to be spoon fed. Luck for you, there's some willing to do it.
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you can root using doomlord root script.
I have rooted several times after flashing few roms and the script works great.
Hope this helps..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
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Madness, if you can't figure it out you're either not reading enough or just being lazy. There's about 4 or 5 links in my guide with how to root, add to that the amount of other threads there is, starting a new one means your lazy, because you've read nothing whilst signing up and just want to be spoon fed. Luck for you, there's some willing to do it.
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Had you taken a look at my join date and post count you may have noticed how I did not sign up to be spoon fed to root this device. And had you read my post you may have noticed how I stated that I've already rooted the Galaxy W, which is my phone, which was also real easy and straight forward.
I signed up to be able to hit the thanks button for Sir Arco's CM10 ROM, and give feedback should I notice bugs or other problems with it.
All I wanted was to root it without flashing a new ROM, since all my brother wants is more space on his phone, I don't think he'll want to check the forums constantly to check if there's a new version of a ROM out so he can flash it, so unlocking the bootloader and flashing a new ROM would be pretty pointless.
you can try to use the doomlord process, but you will always install a new rom, in that case will upgrade de phone to 4.0.3 and then you will be able to root the phone with de .bat file inside :good:
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Had you taken a look at my join date and post count you may have noticed how I did not sign up to be spoon fed to root this device.
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But you still clearly hadn't read anything whilst signing up, otherwise you wouldn't have started a new thread on something as common as "how do I root". I assume you will have managed it by now?
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But you still clearly hadn't read anything whilst signing up, otherwise you wouldn't have started a new thread on something as common as "how do I root". I assume you will have managed it by now?
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I did, which is why I apologized for posting another thread like it, there where also no I do I root this in this forum, since apparently I'm the only one who had trouble with the options that are posted in the guide threads.
And no, the doom script did not work, it did say it was successful but the phone remained unrooted. So after a couple more tries (and rectifying the "drivers out of date" error message) I unlocked the bootloader, tried again a couple of times still to no effect. So I want ahead and flashed a new ROM and Kernel. At first my brother wasn't too happy about that but he's starting to like the new ROM.
Man, it was easier flashing android onto the bloody HP Touchpad than this phone.