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Hi All,
I have been working on an enhancement that allows scrolling from anywhere on the screen, not just using the scrollbars. The idea is to tweak the UI so that it functions more intuitively. This app is still in Alpha. However, for those that like this functionality and would like to help me with testing and provide me with good suggestions, that would be extremely appreciative.
Short Description
-Loads on startup and places an icon on the home screen.
-Currently, a flicker of the startup screen will appear during bootup.
-May not work at times on initial loading of a window.
User Guide
1) Install the cab and reboot the device.
2) Once the device boots up, you will notice a new icon, which is just a way for you to close the application if you want to.
3) Once everything the device loads, you can test the tweak by opening the "Programs" window
4) Try to use your finger to scroll as you would with the scrollbar.
I hope this explain things a little more.
Thank and enjoy. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
EDIT: Sorry everyone, I had to remove this cab. I will post up an update some time soon I hope.
Nice tweak
Count me in!
Edit : It's working great, only is it possible to delete the scrollbars?.
rathoughts said:
Hi All,
I have been working on an enhancement that allows scrolling from anywhere on the screen, not just using the scrollbars. The idea is to tweak the UI so that it functions more intuitively. This app is still in Alpha. However, for those that like this functionality and would like to help me with testing and provide me with good suggestions, that would be extremely appreciative.
Here is the run down on the app:
-Loads on startup and places an icon on the home screen.
-Currently, a flicker of the startup screen will appear during bootup.
-May not work at times on initial loading of a window.
Thank and enjoy. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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I've loaded, soft reset, the icon appeared at the home screen task bar. Clicked on the icon - a blank screen appeared and that's it....
Ronnymes;1415545 said:
Nice tweak
Count me in!
Edit : It's working great, only is it possible to delete the scrollbars?.
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Hi, there was a registry hack for WM5 to size the scrollbars..likely works in WM6, you could atleast make em smaller, if not size em out completely, I think, might give the wiki hacks a check, sorry I don't know it offhand.
User guide of sort
Sorry, should I posted a little description.
1) Install the cab and reboot the device.
2) Once the device boots up, you will notice a new icon, which is just a way for you to close the application if you want to.
3) Once everything the device loads, you can test the tweak by opening the "Programs" window
4) Try to use your finger to scroll as you would with the scrollbar.
I hope this explain things a little more.
rathoughts,
Thanks for the release, the program seems run quite stable, however, few problems I have noticed:
* Some programs work some don't (PIE for example).
* Some programs need to try few times to get it to work.
* Tap function doesnt work (you can scroll up/down nicely in standard contact, however, tap and hold doesnt work, menu doesnt pop up).
My recommendation is, maybe in the furture release, you could add an "exclusive list" function so programs in the list will have TouchNav disabled.
Please keep up your good work
Hi rathoughts, sounds like it might be kinda cool, I know shame on me for not just installing it and trying it out, but does this function with like a throw effect, for example, if I am scrolling, and I run my finger upwards on the screen and release without stopping my finger on the screen, it would keep scrolling by itself, I have a scroll effect with my finger using PIEPlus, but I can get up and down the page much faster with the scroll wheel, cause using my finger and moving from top to bottom of the screen is kinda slow when it comes to browsing here at XDA for example, gotta do it a whole bunch of times, its all good if not, I just thought I would ask.
Edit, nevermind....I just seen its not working in PIE, in the above post
Ronnymes said:
Nice tweak
Count me in!
Edit : It's working great, only is it possible to delete the scrollbars?.
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Thanks for the suggestion. That is what I am planning to do once things are more stable and complete.
RickyLan said:
rathoughts,
Thanks for the release, the program seems run quite stable, however, few problems I have noticed:
* Some programs work some don't (PIE for example).
* Some programs need to try few times to get it to work.
* Tap function doesnt work (you can scroll up/down nicely in standard contact, however, tap and hold doesnt work, menu doesnt pop up).
My recommendation is, maybe in the furture release, you could add an "exclusive list" function so programs in the list will have TouchNav disabled.
Please keep up your good work
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The tap and hold (context menu) issue is something I know about. I hope I can get that resolved so that it will allow this as well.
ChaoticDruid said:
Hi rathoughts, sounds like it might be kinda cool, I know shame on me for not just installing it and trying it out, but does this function with like a throw effect, for example, if I am scrolling, and I run my finger upwards on the screen and release without stopping my finger on the screen, it would keep scrolling by itself, I have a scroll effect with my finger using PIEPlus, but I can get up and down the page much faster with the scroll wheel, cause using my finger and moving from top to bottom of the screen is kinda slow when it comes to browsing here at XDA for example, gotta do it a whole bunch of times, its all good if not, I just thought I would ask.
Edit, nevermind....I just seen its not working in PIE, in the above post
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That is the idea for the next release.
Sweet, thanks for the reply, I swear Im surprised my scrollwheel still functions.
Really nice job!
This is the functionnality I really expected from TouchFlo better than the 3D cube!
I thought about working on such a program if TouchFlo technology couldn't be ported to Hermes, so I would gladly help you to work on this project if you want!
It would be nice if it supports scrolling accelerations and free scrolling (when you release the finger) like on Touch!
schaps said:
Really nice job!
This is the functionnality I really expected from TouchFlo better than the 3D cube!
I thought about working on such a program if TouchFlo technology couldn't be ported to Hermes, so I would gladly help you to work on this project if you want!
It would be nice if it supports scrolling accelerations and free scrolling (when you release the finger) like on Touch!
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Cool. I hope that offer is sincere b/c I may take you up on that offer
schaps said:
Really nice job!
This is the functionnality I really expected from TouchFlo better than the 3D cube!
I thought about working on such a program if TouchFlo technology couldn't be ported to Hermes, so I would gladly help you to work on this project if you want!
It would be nice if it supports scrolling accelerations and free scrolling (when you release the finger) like on Touch!
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Free scrolling is the next thing to be....very nice work dude
ChaoticDruid said:
I have a scroll effect with my finger using PIEPlus, but I can get up and down the page much faster with the scroll wheel, cause using my finger and moving from top to bottom of the screen is kinda slow when it comes to browsing here at XDA for example, gotta do it a whole bunch of times
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go into your PIE+ option for scroll, and increase the screen drag sensitivity.
I think I remember reading(haven't installed yet) that the scrolling is opposite from what we are used to?
Such as it should be like "dragging" so bottom to top would make it scroll downwards. Is it like this?
deadeyed;1416391 said:
go into your PIE+ option for scroll, and increase the screen drag sensitivity.
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Sorry to wander offtopic, but thanks!
I had always just thought that related to pressure sensitivity for some dumb reason, and never tried it.
great work !!!im using PocketCM v0.6 and it screws up the scrolling in contacts ,otherwise awesome stuff.
It will be good if it's functioning as smooth as PocketCM ContactManager 0.11 scrolling. Just tried it on Shcaps 3.57a but not as expected. Good luck on your programming and hope to here good news from you soon. You got my vote.
Tested on WM6
Hello,
Tested this on iMate JasJam WM6 LVSW
It works in Programs folder and File Explorer(the default one)
Tried in PIE, Opera and Resco Explorer and unfo didn't work.
While touching the screen , the program was selecting items on the screen and no chance of scrolling.
Keep up the good work.
Regards.
I'm sure I'm not the first to think of this. And I believe there are some alternatives in the marketplace that do something similar (surfcube coming to mind). But here is what I think IE9 should do to make getting to your open tabs easier. You could also use this same concept to pivot to your favorites.
There will be a problem when you are zoomed in.
The gesture will conflict with scrolling.
One way around that is you only get to tiles when fully zoomed out, but then the idea is not that great anymore, it will be confusing for some people.
nizzon said:
There will be a problem when you are zoomed in.
The gesture will conflict with scrolling.
One way around that is you only get to tiles when fully zoomed out, but then the idea is not that great anymore, it will be confusing for some people.
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He said "Edge-Pixel-Detection", so you have to swipe from outside the screen into the screen to complete this gesture, which would work perfectly
Great idea. I would also add a similar page for bookmarks on the other side.
Or just give us Opera
DeathLamp said:
He said "Edge-Pixel-Detection", so you have to swipe from outside the screen into the screen to complete this gesture, which would work perfectly
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Thats not very intuitive now is it?
There must be many better ways than this.
There are a lot of similar features hidden throughout Windows Phone that you have to just find or learn from someone else.
Not really when it comes to gestures, right?
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Not really when it comes to gestures, right?
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Actually there are quite a few gesture and tap-and-hold type of features that are not at all intuitive (meaning, most people would probably not discover them on their own, unless by accident). Just look at the features of the SIP. I would bet that at least half of WP7 users still don't know that you can tap-and-hold the symbols toggle, and then slide your finger over a symbol to select it, which causes the symbol key set to be dismissed and returns to the alphabet key set.
but there might be problems in landscape mode, where some phones have capacitative buttons at the bottom it would get annoying if you accedentally hit the back button every time u wanted to switch tabs
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but there might be problems in landscape mode, where some phones have capacitative buttons at the bottom it would get annoying if you accedentally hit the back button every time u wanted to switch tabs
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Yeah I was actually thinking about this, especially after seeing the video of Windows 8, where they actually have this implemented. On Win8, it is from the top and bottom, and I was thinking, that wouldn't work on the phone because of the capacitive buttons. The solution my thoughts ended on was that when in landscape mode, it would work like Win8, and you would slide from the top and bottom (which is really the side, the same side that in portrait mode you would be sliding from). So the only thing that would really change is the gesture your hand is performing would change from a horizontal one to a vertical moving gesture.
RoboDad said:
Actually there are quite a few gesture and tap-and-hold type of features that are not at all intuitive (meaning, most people would probably not discover them on their own, unless by accident). Just look at the features of the SIP. I would bet that at least half of WP7 users still don't know that you can tap-and-hold the symbols toggle, and then slide your finger over a symbol to select it, which causes the symbol key set to be dismissed and returns to the alphabet key set.
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Not exactly sure what this SIP feature you are talking about but there is a big difference with features having multiple gestures for the same feature, than haveing two different features with almost exactly the same gesture.
Thats not the same thing, its more confusing.
tiny17 said:
I'm sure I'm not the first to think of this. And I believe there are some alternatives in the marketplace that do something similar (surfcube coming to mind). But here is what I think IE9 should do to make getting to your open tabs easier. You could also use this same concept to pivot to your favorites.
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If you try our SurfCube browser for WP7, you can see that we have already implemented this and a lot more, with an added 3D twist.
Here is a demo video:
Cheers,
András
All I need is a back button (cause seriously who uses forward) and a tab button and IE9 would be awesome. I like the idea of using your finger to swipe and view tabs, but instead it would be smarter to use a multi-fingered gesture. As said before, scrolling would get interfered with, and because you only scroll with one finger a two finger swipe would work.
Good idea.
But there are tons of simpler, if less effective, ways of opening tabs or favs. Instead, they chose to simply replace them with menus on Mango, as well as removing the very cool top black address-bar, replaced with a huge and ugly grey one, even in landscape. ù
So, my impression is that they simply borked the interface because they don't have a clue, and any good suggestion like yours will go into the trashbin, if anyone that matters actually reads it.
Also the single page for favs and history was very cool. And ie9 doesn't load most wordpress mobile-view comments. Way to go ie team, nice direction.
Edge-pixel detection is one of Nokia's more stupid ideas. Even the people who are being paid to demo the handsets mess up quite regularly, swiping from the edge when they want to scroll, resulting in unwanted app switching. It's a badly thought out concept, which is why nobody else has done it.
Tired of moving your fingers up/down your tablet to switch applications? Try out TasKarou!
TasKarou is a multitasking launcher overlay.
Taking inspiration from the 'Quick Controls' feature in the android browser, TasKarou provides a multitasking layer on top of a launcher on tablets.
By swiping anywhere on the left or right edge of your tablet screen, you can activate TasKarou's UI.
It gives you access to a quick, smooth, and intuitive interface to facilitate app launch, transition, and management for the user
The user interface brings a more responsive, and enjoyable level of interaction to your tablet.
Notes:
To use TasKarou, set it as the default home launcher, and from TasKarou's settings, select the actual home launcher you want to overlay.
TasKarou user interface is then triggered by swiping from either the left of right edge of your tablet screen, while still allowing access to the overlaid home launcher through the home button.
The app is also available in the android market.
nice app, but how do i use the browser controls? when im in the browser and put my finger to the side the taskarou menu opens...
kendong2 said:
nice app, but how do i use the browser controls? when im in the browser and put my finger to the side the taskarou menu opens...
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It's not possible to use both at the same time, since both controls rely on the user touching the edge of the screen.
If you have an idea on how I could get around that issue, I'm all ear.
ne0fhyk said:
It's not possible to use both at the same time, since both controls rely on the user touching the edge of the screen.
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that sucks, because it basically makes the browser unusable.
ne0fhyk said:
If you have an idea on how I could get around that issue, I'm all ear.
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some ideas from the top of my head:
- disable taskarou menu completely when in browser
- disable one side of the screen (permanently or when in browser)
- disable the upper/lower/middle half of the screen (permanently or when in browser)
on another note, the notification HAS to go. at least make it optional.
that being said, i really do like the concept of the app :good: i found myself regularly swiping in from the screen edges when not in browser, and then being disappointed that nothing happened.
kendong2 said:
that sucks, because it basically makes the browser unusable.
some ideas from the top of my head:
- disable taskarou menu completely when in browser
- disable one side of the screen (permanently or when in browser)
- disable the upper/lower/middle half of the screen (permanently or when in browser)
on another note, the notification HAS to go. at least make it optional.
that being said, i really do like the concept of the app :good: i found myself regularly swiping in from the screen edges when not in browser, and then being disappointed that nothing happened.
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Thanks for your suggestions. I have a few other ideas along with the ones you suggest that I will try to integrate, and test in the following days.
In the meantime, I updated TasKarou to also support android phones. I duplicated this thread in the 'Android Apps and Games' section to make it more visible: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984010
I like this. Definitely a nice addition to my current launcher.
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Definitely slick in some aspects. Can't say I really like it as it messes with my LMT set up and takes up more RAM on top of it.
There's a lot to be done like distinguishing different "hotspots" and designating right side only or left side only. Overall though I really enjoy the transitions and how the menu auto-switches based on which choices you're hovering over. Very intuitive choices too that I agree with about which things go where.
Looking forward to the potential this holds in the future. I may just abandon my LMT setup if done right.
Edit: And of course the ability for users to add/edit the options, potentially switch the color for mere superficial reasons. Something like my screenshot.
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ne0fhyk said:
It's not possible to use both at the same time, since both controls rely on the user touching the edge of the screen.
If you have an idea on how I could get around that issue, I'm all ear.
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Maybe ask SwipePad's developer.
(I'm not being sarcastic)
Really useful. Love the idea, but it does cause a few conflicts with apps that rely on swiping from the sides of the screen. Having said that, when I set the margin to 13 pixels I can use the Dolphin browser (for example) without too many issues by not swiping from the outer edge, but by placing the finger a little more away from the edge and then swiping inwards. Other apps are less forgiving.
What about a button in the notification area, which is visible at all times anyways?
EDIT:
If swiping has the preference, then it would be more logical to align the available programs/tasks to the side from which was swiped. Swiping and selecting can be done with one hand then, regardless of which hand was used to swipe with.
The recents button is useless, I never use it, ever.
I'd like the option to use this instead and just disable the side activation altogether.
Nice idea. However on TF101 after getting the quick control moving the finger to one of the options too fast causes the quick controls to disappear. I have to move the thumb really slow in order to select any option. Hopefully, this will be fixed soon:fingers-crossed:.
ppl get over it, the man is trying to make ur life simpler, so if u don't like some stuff about the app then tell him your opinions in a decent way so he can make a proper development for the app instead of trashing it, otherwise f*** off
I like this!
1. I only see it from the right edge in portrait.
2. Might have a user selected area(s) for its swipe. This would allow those with conflicts to fix them. There is a similar app on Play which just gives a row running/recent apps icons which is not a bad interface. I found its use of the bottom obtrusive.
3. The home key does not go home in the base browser (I am using Trebuchet on a CM10).
4. There is a difference between "running" and "recent" (exited, cached, and still available.) !!
Long press of home gives a vertically tiled thumbnail view of both.
Taskarou shows only icons of running apps, not recent.
Taskarou should show both, either in two panes or in one with some distinction?, i.e. frame around one or the other. I sort of like having the thumbnails and they could be tiled or cascaded. If cascaded, should be focus-able, if tiled, scroll larger view like the app list. Best eliminated the number of apps option or make that for the pane (but that would be scroll-able for more). Cascading the main webOS motif. Flick down to kill?
mosta_9741 said:
ppl get over it, the man is trying to make ur life simpler, so if u don't like some stuff about the app then tell him your opinions in a decent way so he can make a proper development for the app instead of trashing it, otherwise f*** off
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First of all, as far as I can see, no one is trashing his app. So maybe lower your tone a bit and at least pretend to be able to communicate in a proper way.instead of telling people to "F-off".
The developer probably appreciates the feedback as he responds to it. Feedback (be it positive or negative) is valuable for both him and the app he works on. The end product can benefit from any kind of feedback as it points out flaws and strong points, and it can give the developer some different perspectives and experiences from different users and from different devices.
The day a developer stops listening to his/her targeted market is the day the product will begin its downfall.
Hey man, I just noticed that you dont have a video demo on google play... would you like one? I can do some switches with a background music... may I do it and you decide after if use it or not?
360porcento said:
Hey man, I just noticed that you dont have a video demo on google play... would you like one? I can do some switches with a background music... may I do it and you decide after if use it or not?
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That'd be cool, thanks.
Was having issues on my Nexus 7 running SmoothRom 4.1.2. Updated to 4.2 and no more disappearing quick controls as soon as my finger leaves the border. To get them to stay I had to leave my finger there for at least 1.5 seconds. Now all is well. Really liking it. I look forward to extended and customizable menus
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Scratch that. Conflict was gesture control. Had it set to consume events in starting zone. So a touch on the edge first went to gesture control. Just an iD10t error.
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ddlooping said:
That'd be cool, thanks.
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Are you the the same guy as the OP?
360porcento said:
Are you the the same guy as the OP?
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No but it'd cool regardless as I'd be interested in seeing it in action.
(the app that is)
360porcento said:
Hey man, I just noticed that you dont have a video demo on google play... would you like one? I can do some switches with a background music... may I do it and you decide after if use it or not?
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I would loved one, that'd be greatly appreciated... thanks! (i am the op)
Hello
One thing make me crazy using surface. In landscape mode, I have taskbar on the left side. It give me easy access to program with thumb and it don’t use much space... but when I switch surface to portrait mode for reading or note taking, it take too much space on the left....
So here comes my solution small program that can change taskbar auto hide property based on screen rotation.
You can change if taskbar auto hide or don’t in landscape or portrait mode , and you can mark this program to start automatic on startup
Feel free to use it and share it please leave comment of what you thing about this utility and what more you want
Cool! Doesn't work on the RT though, even thoughit looks like it should (.NET, AnyCPU target). I may hook it up to a debugger for some investigation. Thank you for including the source!
I love this utility! I've actually been unsuccessfully looking for something to do exactly this for a few weeks, and I stumbled on this when I wasn't looking for it.
There's one minor issue I seem to be having with it. If I restart my computer, wait for all the programs to load up (including yours, which is set to run at startup), the program is running, but doesn't have any effect on the status of the taskbar -- the taskbar simply maintains the last state it was in before I restarted the computer: autohide or not -- it doesn't change with orientation. If I exit the program and restart it, it performs as it's supposed to.
In short whenever I restart my Surface Pro (and sometimes when waking from sleep) I have to restart the program to get it to continue working properly.
Great utility by the way!
EDIT: It doesn't fail to respond every time I start and shut down, but it seems to happen whenever I restart with the Surface Pro still in portrait mode. I just tried it with it in landscape mode and it worked fine.
Hello
Many thansk for using this utility, I
nearly forgot that i post it public. I know about this issiu and after finals i have plans to fix this but unfortunetly some problem with position senzor shows up on my surface pro ( like in this blog surfacetablethelp.com/2013/06/surface-pro-simple-device-orientation-sensor-not-working-or-disconnected.html#comment-16957 but whit no android thing )
So soon as i fix this and have woring chang. oriantation i will wok on this utility
Are you still working on it?
A nice feature would be to have the bar always on the same (physical) side of the screen.
For example to save space: Having it on the left side in portrait and as soon as the orientation changes it will now be on the bottom.
slater_g said:
Are you still working on it?
A nice feature would be to have the bar always on the same (physical) side of the screen.
For example to save space: Having it on the left side in portrait and as soon as the orientation changes it will now be on the bottom.
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EXACTLY what im after. please please do this.
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Would someone provide this link:http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/soft...tablet-pc.html
as a reply to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2234549
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There are at least two people looking for solutions (as was I) and I stumbled upon the answer looking for something else. The program they are looking for sounds like Taskbar shuffler in the tabletpcreview forum. I cant post it to make these people super happy, as I don't have 10 posts. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated, and I would be super happy.
slater_g said:
Are you still working on it?
A nice feature would be to have the bar always on the same (physical) side of the screen.
For example to save space: Having it on the left side in portrait and as soon as the orientation changes it will now be on the bottom.
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THIS. Totally want some way to have taskbar automatically switched depending on screen orientation.
keifus.rahn said:
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Would someone provide this link:http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/soft...tablet-pc.html
as a reply to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2234549
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There are at least two people looking for solutions (as was I) and I stumbled upon the answer looking for something else. The program they are looking for sounds like Taskbar shuffler in the tabletpcreview forum. I cant post it to make these people super happy, as I don't have 10 posts. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated, and I would be super happy.
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The links don't work. Does the one to tabletpcreview have a way to move the taskbar when the screen rotates?
Brent212 said:
THIS. Totally want some way to have taskbar automatically switched depending on screen orientation.
The links don't work. Does the one to tabletpcreview have a way to move the taskbar when the screen rotates?
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http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/software/56322-apps-tablet-pc.html
Again thanks for using this utility. Orientation sensor on surface suddenly start working after ages of malfunctions so i was able to fix some bugs and add one new feature
So let me introduce v2:
-fixed bug when auto hide wasn't initialize after reboot.
-added feature to move task bar based of screen orientation.
Since changing task bar orientation isn't possible via API since windows vista, i am using some way of "bay pas". Program start task bar property windows. Switch focus on it and emulate keystrokes ( tabs for moving between options, arrows for switching orientation, enter for submit changes ) ... and i cant bele it .. it work :fingers-crossed:
So fell free to test it and post any comment and feedback
Dude, that's awesome. I haven't tested it extensively, but from brief usage, it puts the taskbar at the bottom on portrait and on the left in landscape. Exactly what I want. Thanks!
It still working in win10.. Thanks,
Hi, I've recently observed a floating screenshot shortcut (not bubble) which annoys me because I normally maybe take 1 screenshot a month only. It is basically useless and when it floats when using my camera it is actually really disturbing. Any suggestions how can I get rid of it? I think I've checked some options, but they do not work.
Sounds like some kind of accessibility setting, but I haven't found it, and haven't seen that myself. Does it come back if you reboot?
uff, yes it did, I wonder for how long.
I'm really ashamed of not remembering the first rule of tech - turn it off and on again