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Rhodium Pics

A mate of mine bought a rhodium and kindly uploaded pics, have at it
I must say, it's pretty damn sexual.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmnnn, that's one nice phone. Thanks for the pictures.
Dave

I should add... that friend is me .
If anyone has questions I'll be happy to answer.

Damn you Oli - looks pretty damn nice.
You happy with it?
Dave

NIIIIIICE pics !! thanks for the upload..

I've had a bit more of a play with the device and as a previous Blackstone owner (Touch HD), there are some pretty noticeable differences in the UI which I'd thought I'd share for those who are interested and havn't yet got their own to play with.
Firstly, the start menu has now been totally replaced with a HTC version, which can be disabled it seems by browsing this forum, but TF3D offers no in-built method to disable it which is kind of annoying (see attached image).
Secondly, the TF3D menu style is extended into almost all programs. For example even in file explorer, opening the standard menu from the soft key shows a 'finger friendly enlarged menu' (see attached image).
Also the Bluetooth UI is completely different (see attached image).
Also a welcome change from the Blackstone is vibration feedback when using the on screen keyboard, and it also shows a button preview above the buttons when pressed (similar to the iPhone). Although this will be less useful since the device has a full QWERTY keyboard, but I'm assuming the Topaz (Diamond 2) has the same feature improvements, so it will be a welcome change for users of that device.

crypticalpha said:
I should add... that friend is me .
If anyone has questions I'll be happy to answer.
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Could you load Skyfire and see how it performs? Someone else mentioned that Skyfire was slow and i got the feeling that he just didn't want to do it.
How is the redraw in Opera, and most importantly how is the battery life?

Great pics
Thanks!

What does it use for a notification light on the front? I can't really find one...

I wanna ask, is there a proximity sensor or no? Cuz when reading some specs, some say it does have one, some don't say anything. The HTC website doesn't mention anything either.. So?

The more pics I see of the it , the better it looks! Can't wait to get it in the States!

LordLugard said:
Could you load Skyfire and see how it performs? Someone else mentioned that Skyfire was slow and i got the feeling that he just didn't want to do it.
How is the redraw in Opera, and most importantly how is the battery life?
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Can you clarify what you mean by redraw? Do you mean when you scroll around and have to wait for the page to be displayed in the newly visible area? As for battery life, no idea yet sorry. Havn't done much testing in that area.
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What does it use for a notification light on the front? I can't really find one...
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There aew two LED's on the top of the unit on either side of the speaker. The one on the left seems to indicate charge with an orange LED and notifications with a flashing green LED. Not sure what the other LED does yet (See attached image).
orbitalen said:
I wanna ask, is there a proximity sensor or no? Cuz when reading some specs, some say it does have one, some don't say anything. The HTC website doesn't mention anything either.. So?
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I can confirm there is. If I make a call and hold the phone to my head, the screen dims, when I bring it back down it comes to life again. Pretty cool .
What I will add though it the CorePlayer movie speed seems to be a bit better than the Touch HD (well from my experience anyway). I have only tried one 350MB TV Episode so far, but it managed 90.34% in a benchmark with a framerate of 21.7. Although there wasnt a lot of 'action' in my test video so it might be worse with other videos.

3g?
does the phone have 3g but for the US, specifically AT&T??, ohh and nice phone can't wait to buy it.

crypticalpha said:
There aew two LED's on the top of the unit on either side of the speaker. The one on the left seems to indicate charge with an orange LED and notifications with a flashing green LED. Not sure what the other LED does yet (See attached image).
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Sweetness. Doesnt seem as spiffy as the light on the Fuze, but good enough.
Thanx for the pic to BTW.

crypticalpha said:
There aew two LED's on the top of the unit on either side of the speaker. The one on the left seems to indicate charge with an orange LED and notifications with a flashing green LED. Not sure what the other LED does yet (See attached image).
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This is probably the ambient light detector for automatic control of LCD brightness under varying light levels.

I haven't seen the keyboard quite that close up before. Looks like there are Caps and FN LEDs at the top.
Thanks for the pics

oquen2001 said:
does the phone have 3g but for the US, specifically AT&T??, ohh and nice phone can't wait to buy it.
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There are two versions of the phone, one that supports 850MHz UMTS and one that does 900MHz UMTS.
My phone is the 900MHz version, which is what the networks in Australia use (EXCEPT for Telstra Next-G which is 850MHz in regional areas).
I 'THINK' the US uses the 850MHz UMTS band but since I don't live there, I can't really say for sure. But I do not know if the 850MHz version will be released at the same time.

would it be possible for you to take some pictures with the phone and some video so we can see the quality? Thanks!

doctajay said:
would it be possible for you to take some pictures with the phone and some video so we can see the quality? Thanks!
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I believe there's a sample video linked in the pocketnow full review--see quarintus' review thread in this forum for a link.

Well, when Olipro' mate has got this baby, we can expect Hard SPL on the way very soon.
Regards,
Carty..

No front facing camera?

Damn, I realized now that there is no front facing camera on HTC Desire.
So, no video conference as well

There is a special photo-reflective device that can be used for teleconferencing with this type of handset. I have one in my bathroom, but the name escapes me....
I have only ever used video conferencing once in my life just to see how it works, though I know there are many people who do use it.

Some have reported the "trackball" is actually a camera. So maybe the developers might somehow make it happen.

Havok316uk said:
Some have reported the "trackball" is actually a camera. So maybe the developers might somehow make it happen.
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It's not good enough for taking pictures or video.

Havok316uk said:
Some have reported the "trackball" is actually a camera. So maybe the developers might somehow make it happen.
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Every optical tracker like in an optical mouse works as a camera, but they have incredibly low resolution.

Havok316uk said:
Some have reported the "trackball" is actually a camera. So maybe the developers might somehow make it happen.
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I think it's so low resolution it'd never work.

Galaxy Nexus is Awesome!

Hi
I just felt that with all the negative posts, i would add a positive one
I got mine today from Clove, all i can say is this phone is awesome.
Well done Google. ICS is a wonderful rebuild, not an update, a rebuild. I think people are forgetting this.
So everybody. What do you like about ICS?
I got a unknown phone call today and what made me smile was that ICS told me what location the area code was from automatically
What has put a smile on your face with ICS?

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Hi
I just felt that with all the negative posts, i would add a positive one
I got mine today from Clove, all i can say is this phone is awesome.
Well done Google. ICS is a wonderful rebuild, not an update, a rebuild. I think people are forgetting this.
So everybody. What do you like about ICS?
I got a unknown phone call today and what made me smile was that ICS told me what location the area code was from automatically
What has put a smile on your face with ICS?
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Where did it say that at? On the incoming call screen?

Yes, just under the phone number
I was pleasently surprised

mhbr12742 said:
Yes, just under the phone number
I was pleasently surprised
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Woah!!! It did that in the UK?

Sweet, Friday is gonna be great!!! Can't wait.

Yeah in the UK, I just tested it by deleting my home number form the phone, and then calling. It got it bang on. Very cool!

That's pretty cool, I hope the Verizon version does that (show the location of call). That's a welcome addition if it does.

This is new to me.
Are you sure you are not installing special app?

no additional app
it must look up the area code from google so i guess u will need a data connection

gogol said:
This is new to me.
Are you sure you are not installing special app?
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It does the same on an AOSP build on the Nexus S - I received several calls for work today from unknown numbers and the Caller ID now shows the state the call is originating from (US).

That's a really good find! For those who haven't tried it I've knocked up a short video showing the feature. Me like.

gogol said:
This is new to me.
Are you sure you are not installing special app?
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Nope, happened to me
Said the number which wasn't in my contacts and it said Tyneside under it.
Turns out it was Samsung calling me back

Wondering if this is UK specific only.
Anyone from outside UK can test?

gogol said:
Wondering if this is UK specific only.
Anyone from outside UK can test?
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It works in the US an an AOSP ICS build on the Nexus S - I'd imagine it works the same on the GN.

krohnjw said:
It works in the US an an AOSP ICS build on the Nexus S - I'd imagine it works the same on the GN.
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works in Czech too

jmbillings said:
That's a really good find! For those who haven't tried it I've knocked up a short video showing the feature. Me like.
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Whe did you get that LW?

bmstrong said:
Whe did you get that LW?
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It comes on the device already

Garbled metallic sound when filming video

I bought three G5 with 3GB or RAM for myself, wife and mother. The plus model was not available at the time here in Sweden.
All three of the phones have a very strange and in your face garbled metallic sound when filming video. This sound distortion makes video in places where there is natural background noise unbearable. Is there anyway to fix this problem? Am I the only one with this issue? Lost a lot of video of my newly born baby because of this sound issue =(
Thanks

same thing here, G5 3GB RAM and mic sounds like rubbish, seems like the same issue the Nexus 5 had, where the filter were too aggressive and instead ruined the sound. the solution was to completely disable the filter with some kind of patch.

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I bought three G5 with 3GB or RAM for myself, wife and mother. The plus model was not available at the time here in Sweden.
All three of the phones have a very strange and in your face garbled metallic sound when filming video. This sound distortion makes video in places where there is natural background noise unbearable. Is there anyway to fix this problem? Am I the only one with this issue? Lost a lot of video of my newly born baby because of this sound issue =(
Thanks
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Upload an example file to mega/yousendit/whatever, please - I'll examine it.

This is from the other day on my own phone. My wife has a zillion videos that sound the exact same way on her phone. This weird noise only shows up if there is background noise.
All three phones have this issues. All three phones are bought here in Sweden:
Moto G5
3GB RAM
16 GB ROM
64 GB SD card
Version: PVT1
SKU: XT1676
Build number: NPP25.137-15
Software Channel: reteu
Baseband Ver: M8937_8000.122.02.40R
Any clue on what this is and how to deal with it? Should I just return all three phones?

onryo said:
This is from the other day on my own phone. My wife has a zillion videos that sound the exact same way on her phone. This weird noise only shows up if there is background noise.
All three phones have this issues. All three phones are bought here in Sweden:
Moto G5
3GB RAM
16 GB ROM
64 GB SD card
Version: PVT1
SKU: XT1676
Build number: NPP25.137-15
Software Channel: reteu
Baseband Ver: M8937_8000.122.02.40R
Any clue on what this is and how to deal with it? Should I just return all three phones?
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I also bought mine in Sweden and I have the same problem...I already contacted Sweden Technical support. Please do the same so they are aware of the incident. If you check lenovo's forum there's more people with the same problem.
You can contact them in motorola rest of europe (roe) section. I'm not allowed to post links :/
Cheers!

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I also bought mine in Sweden and I have the same problem...I already contacted Sweden Technical support. Please do the same so they are aware of the incident. If you check lenovo's forum there's more people with the same problem.
You can contact them in motorola rest of europe (roe) section. I'm not allowed to post links :/
Cheers!
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I just got a mail back from them saying they are "not aware" of the issue. Could you give us a url what gets around the "not allowd to post links" ie w w w dot xxxxxx/xxxx/ dot com

onryo said:
I just got a mail back from them saying they are "not aware" of the issue. Could you give us a url what gets around the "not allowd to post links" ie w w w dot xxxxxx/xxxx/ dot com
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I tried to workaround the link...lets see again:
motorola-global-en-roe dot custhelp.com/app/utils/prod_guided_assistant/g_id/5027/
If you guys know swedish you can try calling them

jpm92 said:
I tried to workaround the link...lets see again:
motorola-global-en-roe dot custhelp.com/app/utils/prod_guided_assistant/g_id/5027/
If you guys know swedish you can try calling them
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Skit bra
I'll call them tomorrow! Ericsson bought 50 G5 XT1676. All of the phones have that trash background noise when I asked around. I was given a phone but I bought two to give to my family.

onryo said:
Skit bra
I'll call them tomorrow! Ericsson bought 50 G5 XT1676. All of the phones have that trash background noise when I asked around. I was given a phone but I bought two to give to my family.
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They offered me to replace the unit on the mails, but it's obviously a common issue, so there's no point. Maybe they are more understandable on the phone. Also remember to ask if they know when is the spring finally arriving to Sweden
Tack!

jpm92 said:
They offered me to replace the unit on the mails, but it's obviously a common issue, so there's no point. Maybe they are more understandable on the phone. Also remember to ask if they know when is the spring finally arriving to Sweden
Tack!
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lol would be funny as hell if I could get all 50 owners of the phone at work to replace them
Sweden only has two seasons. 1) Dark season 2) Rain season

onryo said:
lol would be funny as hell if I could get all 50 owners of the phone at work to replace them
Sweden only has two seasons. 1) Dark season 2) Rain season
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I'm starting to realize :laugh:
Any news?

jpm92 said:
I'm starting to realize :laugh:
Any news?
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This is what Lenovo had to say. I returned my phones. Some of the others might do the same. Unfortunately for Lenovo Ericsson was going to buy a bunch of Thinkpad X1 Carbon laptops. They are freaking expensive. That is not going to happen now since Ericsson is afraid that Lenovo will not back up its products with fw updates.
Customer Reference number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Dear XXXXXXXXXXX,
I am writing to you regarding your Moto G 5 phones. The Repairs Department have reviewed your case and have unfortunately not been able to find a satisfactory solution to this sound distortion problem.
Please rest assured that this issue has been duly reported to the relevant department and it will hopefully be resolved in a future update. Regretfully, we are unable to provide any timeframe for future updates. I would therefore recommend that you return your Moto G 5 phones to the retailer to request a refund.
We would like to thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter. We are terribly sorry for any inconvenience that this has caused. For any further assistance or information please do not hesitate to get in touch with us.
We are reachable on 03339 997 550 to discuss the matter further with one of our experienced customer service agents. Please contact us any time between the hours of 8am and 6pm from Monday to Friday.
Thank you for contacting Lenovo-Motorola. I hope you have a nice afternoon.
Kind regards,
Xica
Lenovo & Motorola Mobility UK Ltd.

Just finding this thread. I bought a G5 in Denmark a few weeks ago. I've noticed the same issue. I think it's either a over aggressive noise reduction scheme they've incorporated, or a result of low quality mp4 audio bitrate for recording. Probably a combination of these. Have you found a thread on Lenovo - Motorola that I can find more info about this on? Cheers,

Damn, I'm starting to evaluate the possibility of giving it back and get another one (obviously not Lenovo). Screw them, couldnt they just release a update for it? I record a lot of videos usually and this is really annoying...
Thanks for the update though

Hey, looked into it some more. I used the Cinema FV-5 app and found that by disabling the "Automatic Gain Control" of the microphone the sounds are recorded more clearly.
So, the metallic garbled sounds are most likely largely due to an overly aggressive AGC setting on the native camera app combined with whatever settings they have on audio conversion.
Wouldn't it be nice if Moto made an update to the camera app so that you could disable the automatic gain control if you wanted to....

I talked to Motorola Support and they told me they're already working on it, but they can't give me any date. At least I know it will be fixed at some point.

I am on day 1 of my G5 testing, and yes, I also experience this horrendous "Finding Nemo" underwater sound, caused by overly aggressive audio filtering and/or AGC. FIX IT LENOVO!
onryo said:
This is what Lenovo had to say. I returned my phones. Some of the others might do the same. Unfortunately for Lenovo Ericsson was going to buy a bunch of Thinkpad X1 Carbon laptops. They are freaking expensive. That is not going to happen now since Ericsson is afraid that Lenovo will not back up its products with fw updates.
Customer Reference number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Dear XXXXXXXXXXX,
I am writing to you regarding your Moto G 5 phones. The Repairs Department have reviewed your case and have unfortunately not been able to find a satisfactory solution to this sound distortion problem.
Please rest assured that this issue has been duly reported to the relevant department and it will hopefully be resolved in a future update. Regretfully, we are unable to provide any timeframe for future updates. I would therefore recommend that you return your Moto G 5 phones to the retailer to request a refund.
We would like to thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter. We are terribly sorry for any inconvenience that this has caused. For any further assistance or information please do not hesitate to get in touch with us.
We are reachable on 03339 997 550 to discuss the matter further with one of our experienced customer service agents. Please contact us any time between the hours of 8am and 6pm from Monday to Friday.
Thank you for contacting Lenovo-Motorola. I hope you have a nice afternoon.
Kind regards,
Xica
Lenovo & Motorola Mobility UK Ltd.
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Don't abandon a potential ThinkPad purchase decision based on crappy consumer mobile phone product lines. The business-oriented ThinkPad laptops are superb - I have three ThinkPads here - R61, T430 and an R500, and as a service engineer who ONLY deals with quality equipment, let me tell you, you won't find better laptop hardware from ANY company. The "ThinkPad" range is a continuation from IBM's original line of ThinkPads, and they are the only laptops fully tested, approved, and signed off for use on NASA and ISS missions - that's how robust and dependable they are - the stuff of legends. The consumer <blah>Pad products are not worth a donkey turd, but the "ThinkPad" lines are hot stuff my friend, ANYONE worth their salt will back me up on this view, it's a given - they are built like tanks with carbon fibre composite, glass fibre reinforced plastic, and magnesium alloy construction - not the usual creaky, paper-thin plastic crap palmed off on the vanity market, aka consumers.
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jpm92 said:
I talked to Motorola Support and they told me they're already working on it, but they can't give me any date. At least I know it will be fixed at some point.
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"We heard your feedback and assure you we are seeking to resolve this issue"
The usual line from "The Corporate BS handbook"

mbwf said:
I am on day 1 of my G5 testing, and yes, I also experience this horrendous "Finding Nemo" underwater sound, caused by overly aggressive audio filtering and/or AGC. FIX IT LENOVO!
Don't abandon a potential ThinkPad purchase decision based on crappy consumer mobile phone product lines. The business-oriented ThinkPad laptops are superb
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No doubt the Thinkpad X1 Carbon is a really nice laptop. Its just the buyers for Ericsson want nothing to do with Lenovo now. Instead that department bought 25 'Dell XPS 15 9560' =(
Looks like the G5 is now has some ROMS! Yayyyy!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/development
Somebody on IRC pointed out a work around for the video sound issues.

Irritating Sound from The Camera module

Can anyone confirm that whether u r facing this issue or not...?
When i knock the phone near the rear camera lens i heard some sort of sound like the lens were loosely fitted...Please confirm it to me once...Thanks

Yes it is there. I guess it is one of the sensors.
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Sukhi said:
Yes it is there. I guess it is one of the sensors.
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Cracking sound ryt...? Is it more or less..? Thank u

Achyuth Reddy said:
Cracking sound ryt...? Is it more or less..? Thank u
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I can't describe the sound but its prominent. Something similar to rattling sound.
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Sukhi said:
I can't describe the sound but its prominent. Something similar to rattling sound.
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Sir,sorry for the noob qn again...is that really a problem or is completely normal..?

Achyuth Reddy said:
Sir,sorry for the noob qn again...is that really a problem or is completely normal..?
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That's perfectly normal IMO. I have heard these similar sounds in Samsung flagships and other OEMs before at different places. Enjoy your device till the time it is under warranty and it doesn't has any adverse effect on the day to day device functionality.
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Wow i thought i am the only one. Yes it does make a rattling around .. even if i drop the phone on my bed from ≥15-20cm. And also if you tap on the area beside the camera lens, you get to hear a blank tapping sound. Is it so?

suvam69 said:
Wow i thought i am the only one. Yes it does make a rattling around .. even if i drop the phone on my bed from ≥15-20cm. And also if you tap on the area beside the camera lens, you get to hear a blank tapping sound. Is it so?
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Correct !

Yep. It makes the sound...

Hey, not you not me but every A50 user is reporting this to samsung and it said that it just a sound from the lens which is used for autofocus. So nothing to worry about it ?

I am facing the same issue. Rattling sound when I tap the backside of the phone.
What can be done for this? It has increased from last week.