The mystery of my free T-Mobile sim I ordered to evaluate the signal reception in the house has been solved, er indoors binned it as being junk mail a few days ago *cue bin raking*
The reason I asked for the sim was because the couple next door are both on t-mob and need to come outside to make calls even though the T-Mobile coverage checker threw up a 3 bar 'good' rating for both 2 & 3G signals.
Anyway, seems okay in mine (gable end), my question is that my o2 displayed a 'G' for 3G signal, this t-mob doesn't ...but if I ask it to access the web a 'G' then appears as its connecting, and when I close down the web the 'G' disappears.
In summary, when the mobs lying around doing nothing the o2 always displays the 'G', the t-mob doesn't.
Is this the norm?
A "G" displayed by itself means it's connecting via GPRS.
A mobile broadband connection is displayed as either "3G" or "H" depending on the connection type.
G is 2G or GPRS
3g would indicate 3g
H would indicated HSDPA
Cheers chaps
Changed some settings on the mob for data 'always on' and they both matched.
On hol for 10 days, will pick it back up on my return
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After about a week plus of having my TP2, i realize that where i normally am surfing the net, i don't have HSDPA anymore. All i get is 3G. It's strange cos when i put the sim card into my TP, it gets HSDPA right away.
I've taken my TP2 out and in town, it gets HSDPA so that pretty much confirms that there is no setting problem. I've flashed with all the available Radio from the radio thread and none seem to help. I still can't get HSDPA where i'm sitting now while my TP would have full strength.
Anybody else has this problem? Is there a way to force HSDPA connection?
Anybody?
I just hard reset my TP2 and still no "H". Took the TP2 out for a drive closer to tonw and i get "H" which again means nothing is wrong with the settings portion.
Take the sim card out and put it into my TP, i get a strong full strength "H" from where my TP2 could not get
Weird & sad cos i use my data plan a lot.
Try downloading something and see if actively using the data connection switches it over from 3g to H
Let me preface by saying I don't have TP2 yet, still waiting on AT&T
I think without using something like Advanced Config (assuming there is a rhodium version), it will only show 3G even if it is in fact an HSDPA signal. You can adjust the setting with advanced config to enable the H display. But it is just enabling the icon I believe.
With the stock rom on my worldwide version it comes up with H when i use the data connection, otherwise it sits on 3g even in full reception ;- ) why i suggested it
worldwide edition is; world 3G on GSM right? where can you get that one!
Axeslocked said:
worldwide edition is; world 3G on GSM right? where can you get that one!
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Worldwide except the USA I believe. Otherwise I would have bought it long ago
dammit!
I want to upgrade to this **** from my TyTN that is falling apart but no Canada 3G until 2010 quarter 2. thats when rogers upgrades to 2100
HSDPA is 3G. Some taskbars on the Touch Pro 2 label a 3G connection as "H" or HSDPA.
You are getting the same data speeds regardless of whether the "H" or the "3G" symbol can be seen on your phone.
However if you get an "E" or a "G" that means you will get EDGE speeds and GSM speeds respectively.
The fastest is as follows from left to right: 3G > EDGE > GSM
Thanx for the reply guys.
HSDPA is faster then 3G right? Or did i get that information wrong
Anyway HSDPA is already enable in my TP2 as when i move to other locations...say closer to town, i do get "H". I just feel that the reception is not as strong as that of the TP cos at home where my TP has HSDPA connection, my TP2 does not
As mentioned in the title, I'm on TMo in the UK. In many places (even in London) I'm not getting a 3G signal and have to rely on GPRS. Hopefully this will improve when they merge their network with Orange, if that goes ahead.
Anyway, the "G" indicator in my top bar suggests that I'm only getting a bog-standard GPRS connection and not EDGE.
So, how do I go about setting it up to connect with EDGE? Any thoughts?
Cheers
Don't think Edge has ever been used in the UK by any network.
UK networks use HSDPA, which I believe is faster.
I'm sure that's not true - weren't O2 relying on their EDGE network to provide semi-reasonable data speeds for the original iPhone?
You don't need to do anything specifically to set up EDGE connectivity.
I'm on o2 and sometimes have to lock my TP2 to 2G when there's a weak 3G signal just to save battery. When you're in an area where Edge is available, the icon will switch to an "E".
At home, the o2 EDGE signal is a bit flakey, and it will flip between "E" and "G" even if I just leave the phone where it is. At work, the signal is better and I'm getting on average just over 110 kbit/sec on speed tests.
T-mobile are notorius for having a terrible signal.
And unfortuantely for you Orange isn't much better signal wise, so if they do merge i wouldn't count on it improving a great deal.
Oh and yes some of the UK networks are still relying on edge to back up thier 3G / HSDPA offerings.
From my own personal experience i would rate the uk networks in this order signal wise (best first, worst last).
Vodafone
O2
3 / Orange
T-mobile
RobTsintas said:
As mentioned in the title, I'm on TMo in the UK. In many places (even in London) I'm not getting a 3G signal and have to rely on GPRS. Hopefully this will improve when they merge their network with Orange, if that goes ahead.
Anyway, the "G" indicator in my top bar suggests that I'm only getting a bog-standard GPRS connection and not EDGE.
So, how do I go about setting it up to connect with EDGE? Any thoughts?
Cheers
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I found the 'E' symbol to be switched off so using Autoconfig Tools 3.3 I set it to show when I was using Edge.
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I found the 'E' symbol to be switched off so using Autoconfig Tools 3.3 I set it to show when I was using Edge.
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Yes! That explains a lot. Found the setting in Advanced Config and enabled the icon. Now I'll have to keep an eye on it and see if I get EDGE anywhere...
Cheers MusicArt1st.
Anyone got 3G reception at all? My phone is 2G only all the time even though I live in a 3G area. It's set to GSM and whatever the other is auto so I would've thought it should change when it can?
do you have a 3g sim?
Yes as I've just taken it from my HD2
May/may not be relevant:
I have just taken out a contract with TMobile. Their Street Check tool (which allows you to view 2G/3G service in your area) said "Good" for 3G, however when I put my new sim in the Desire at home I was only getting a 2G connection. Was not happy.
Now, a few days later, I am getting 3-4 bars of 3G at home. I don't know what has changed, whether it was a network issue or a handset issue.
Sorry, I know that doesn't help you but I thought I'd share anyway!
After all that, just got 'H' in my flat so perhaps it was a SIM card issue?? Weird...happy though!!
Had my Desire for a while now, and I'm just wondering why my internet connection jumps from 'H' straight down to 'G', seemingly bypassing 3G.
Anyone else got this happening?
this happens to me but only when im on a train which is understandable
it shouldnt happen if you are stationary
HSUPA is 3G just an enhanced version, so if you lose HSUPA it will just jump to G/E
I get H, 3G or G, I've never once seen Edge at all.
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I get H, 3G or G, I've never once seen Edge at all.
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That's because T-Mobile never bothered to implement EDGE on their network. As far as I'm aware, only O2 and Orange have implemented EDGE, and O2 only did it because of the original iPhone 2G contract.
Regards,
Dave
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That's because T-Mobile never bothered to implement EDGE on their network. As far as I'm aware, only O2 and Orange have implemented EDGE, and O2 only did it because of the original iPhone 2G contract.
Regards,
Dave
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I see, thanks for the info.
Seen EDGE once, that's it haha
No what I mean though, is fine, I'll be getting GPRS signal pretty much anywhere I go, and should be getting H signal in city's and largely populated areas, which I do (while it is pretty flakey). But inbetween those gaps, shouldn't I be getting 3G signal, in the areas with no H?
At the moment if I have no HSPA it goes straight to G, just completely missing the 3G areas, is this normal?
Sorry, tried making myself as clear as possible here
This is common problem with the Desire. Try dialling *#*#4636#*#* and then changing from wcdma preferred GSM auto (PRL). It's helped for a few people, including myself. A search will dig up a few useful threads
weird, I only see H and E and G. Have never ever seen 3G and I monitor it closely too.
HSUPA is 3G just an enhanced version, so if you lose HSUPA it will just jump to G/E
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This. As long as you are not on an internet package that doesn't allow HSDPA then you should only see the H symbol, not 3G, when in range. Before I contacted T-mobile I was stuck on their normal Web 'n' Walk that restricted the speed so I was only ever seeing 3G. After being upgraded to the W 'n' W Plus I never see 3G anymore flick between H and G depending on my signal.
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This. As long as you are not on an internet package that doesn't allow HSDPA then you should only see the H symbol, not 3G, when in range.
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Sorry, but that is incorrect.
I'm on T-Mobile, and I regular see G, 3G, and H depending on where I am.
Right now, my phone is sitting on my desk in my office and is showing 3G. If I run a speed test, it immediately jumps to H and I get results of 1877kbps down and 476kbps up, so I'm definitely provisioned for HSDPA.
So, you can be correctly provisioned for HSDPA and still see the 3G symbol, though it would appear that this will jump to H pretty much as soon as you start using data.
Regards,
Dave
HSDPA (H) is a lot faster than 3G, but not all mobile masts have the right equipment to use it. If an HSDPA cell is available on a mast then your phone will only show H and never 3G. However, if the mast is not configured for HSDPA it will show 3G.
If a handset is connected using 3G/HSDPA and the signal is weak/lost it will drop down to 2G(G)/EDGE.
Most issues people have with the handset dropping down to 2G will be coverage/signal related. Best thing to do is try it in another area. If the connection is stable in any other place you are in then there is nothing wrong with the handset.
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So, you can be correctly provisioned for HSDPA and still see the 3G symbol, though it would appear that this will jump to H pretty much as soon as you start using data.
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HSDPA is data-only so the handset will show 3G if not using data. As soon as a data connection is established/requested it will change to HSDPA (H) if it is available. 3G is for voice/texts and also data if no HSDPA is available.
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I get H, 3G or G, I've never once seen Edge at all.
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I only get H/G here in the UK, but a recent trip to Paris had me only on E. It's dependant on what the carrier is using.
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This. As long as you are not on an internet package that doesn't allow HSDPA then you should only see the H symbol, not 3G, when in range. Before I contacted T-mobile I was stuck on their normal Web 'n' Walk that restricted the speed so I was only ever seeing 3G. After being upgraded to the W 'n' W Plus I never see 3G anymore flick between H and G depending on my signal.
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Bull****... It is like Edge and Gprs, Edge is a "better" version of the normal Gprs, you get >Edge where ever Edge is available, otherwise normal Gprs.
Same to HSDPA and 3G (umts) thats why i get mostly 3G here and HSDPA not that often, because my Provider has bad availability of HSDPA.
in my room my signal is always gprs or edge, i rarely do get either 3g or hspa, outside of my house, i get 3g and sometimes hspa, but i get only 2 bar of signal, it's really annoying, i don't know is it my phone or my carrier, but i think its my phone
in addition, sometimes my phone can't get an internet connection for no reason, im have an internet data but my phone just won't connect, the signal bar color changes into white
Carrier?
Data plan?
The right apn settings?
Do you have another phone to test?
Can't just point fingers on the phone or your carrier without concrete evidence.
Check the signal using any other phone in the same places to confirm if it is only your GNex suffering this poor signal or every phone around. Maybe the coverage of the 3G Tower is already poor in your place.
If you really confirm that it is your phone after trying what I suggested above, then it worths to mention the radio baseband you are using. You may also like to check this thread for a list of radio basebands
Regarding the white (or is it "grey"?) internet signal, this is related to whether you are connected to Google servers or not as far as I know. If connected then it is blue, otherwise, it is the other color.
Update: Oh guys you were faster than me although I started replying while no one did already