There is a lot of speculation and conflicting reports of how voice-to-text was implemented on the Desire. After reading every thread related to v2t, Im still totally confused
If you already have a handset, could you please tell us what the real story is with voice-to-text? No speculation, rumours etc please! If you are lucky enough to already have one, please help by answering these 2 questions?
1) Is voice-to-text available as a 'general' text input (in place of the on-screen keyboard)? I know there is a thread on how to enable it using an alternative keyboard but that's not what Im asking.
2) Is it available on all versions (unlocked, T-Mobile, Orange??)
To assist with getting a definitive answer to the second question, please include the carrier/store you bought your handset from.
Thanks in advance for your help!!
initially i thought this thread was about how good voice to text was, but then read your post. So i'll comment on both.
I got my desire direct from t mobile, and voice to text was not a function i could find. It wasn't until i downloaded the keyboard app referenced in other posts, and then switched to android keyboard instead of the stock htc keyboard, that i could find and use speech to text. I presume that the speech to text button was always present on the android keyboard and the extra keyboard app only activated the function which wasn't working before. However, as i only found out how to activate the android keyboard after i downloaded the extra keyboard app, I can't be too sure.
I can only issume that it would be the same for the generic ROM and other network ROM users. But from hearing about the people who have received the OTA update it seems that speech to text function may be changing or being disabled. I definitely hope not, though.
I used speech to text for half of this message. It seems to be working really well for me, despite what a lot of other people are saying. It's definitely not perfect, but i can see it as a function i will use often. I look forward to it getting better, and hope it will stay on the desire.
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I looked into the user manual that was uploaded by user "redmongoose":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6002105&postcount=5
Page 70
And see what I found (see attached image).
I think this will be enabled on HTC retail version, but not on T-Mobile version.
Probably ...
PS: To get the manual: Connect you phone to a PC, Mount the SD Card and there you will find the manual
gogol said:
I looked into the user manual that was uploaded by user "redmongoose":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6002105&postcount=5
Page 70
And see what I found (see attached image).
I think this will be enabled on HTC retail version, but not on T-Mobile version.
Probably ...
PS: To get the manual: Connect you phone to a PC, Mount the SD Card and there you will find the manual
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Loool that was fast!!!
great ... I hope what ur saying is true thanx for sharing
so it seems that T-mobile version is kind of like a pre-retail for everyother provider?
Nice find!
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so it seems that T-mobile version is kind of like a pre-retail for everyother provider?
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That would make sense as Vodafone in the Netherlands are getting them 14-15th of April.
I think the screenshot in the manual is showing an early version of the desire ROM, but was later removed. The manual doesn't seem to describe it anywhere as a feature.
There's a page on slashgear (search for Desire vs Nexus, I'm a new user so can't provide link) where somebody has left a comment suggesting that voice to text is currently exclusive to the Nexus, hence I think it was there in the desire rom but had to be disabled.
Mister-C said:
I think the screenshot in the manual is showing an early version of the desire ROM, but was later removed. The manual doesn't seem to describe it anywhere as a feature.
There's a page on slashgear (search for Desire vs Nexus, I'm a new user so can't provide link) where somebody has left a comment suggesting that voice to text is currently exclusive to the Nexus, hence I think it was there in the desire rom but had to be disabled.
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Welcome aboard!
There is a thread about this here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650076 which includes a link to the video you refer to.
I cannot think any single reason why such feature is removed when it was there before.
As I understood, the voice to text is a standard feature of Android 2.1, and not HTC.
How about the past HTC android 2.1 devices such as HTC Legend?
Is it not compatible with the HTC sense UI?
Someone should try this custom HTC keyboard, it has voice-to-text and other enhancements:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416
Btw, probably we need to email HTC and/or T-Mobile to have clarification about this once and for all.
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I think the screenshot in the manual is showing an early version of the desire ROM, but was later removed. The manual doesn't seem to describe it anywhere as a feature.
There's a page on slashgear (search for Desire vs Nexus, I'm a new user so can't provide link) where somebody has left a comment suggesting that voice to text is currently exclusive to the Nexus, hence I think it was there in the desire rom but had to be disabled.
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I won't be surprised if this feature was disabled in HTC Desire and Legend. One reason comes to my mind is the lack of the extra mic for noise cancellation, as it must help in voice-to-text working properly in certain conditions.
Nevertheless, even if that was the case, I'm sure as soon as Desire roms start cooking, this will be the first thing we'll see.
But I am wondering how clicking on that "voice-to-text/settings" button would work? is it going to be a 2-clicks process to activate? that kind of sux!
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Welcome aboard!
There is a thread about this here which includes a link to the video you refer to.
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Glad to be here! I'll be even gladder when Clove deliver my Sim free handset...
The vid in the link relates to a Nexus phone, so this muddies things a little. However, I've seen other vids from the MWC showing that the keyboard on the Desire did indeed at one point have the mic icon on it.
Some people are speculating that retail/sim only units with have the feature enabled, but I don't think that will happen. As said above, I think it was simply that even though V2T is a standard feature of Android 2.1, it probably wasn't very effective without the noise cancellation hardware.
Nevertheless, it will be interesting to see just how well the Desire can do this - I've seen some videos of the V2T in action on the Nexus and its quite impressive.
There are pics of an Australian delivered model (Telstra branded) here:
http://news.smarthouse.com.au/images/shared/2010032804133605702.jpg
You can see from the pic that the V2T button is definitely there.
Full review:
http://smarthouse.com.au/Reviews/Phones/S2T2D4C2
Have you tried another Keyboard? "Better Keyboard" for example has the Speech to text key.
The-Nazgul said:
Have you tried another Keyboard? "Better Keyboard" for example has the Speech to text key.
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Just tried Better Keyboard. When i press the speech button i get:
"your phone does not have speech recognition engine"
I'll be a little annoyed if the sim free version has it.
trice1921 said:
Just tried Better Keyboard. When i press the speech button i get:
"your phone does not have speech recognition engine"
I'll be a little annoyed if the sim free version has it.
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ouch, .. i hope this have nothing to do with the fact that the desire doesnt have that stupid "noise cancellation".
and on the contrary, i would be delighted if the sim free version has it xP
If the retail unlocked version does not have it, then I will be very annoyed because they advertised it:
http://www.desirehtc.com/
Enter then click Android.
trice1921 said:
Just tried Better Keyboard. When i press the speech button i get:
"your phone does not have speech recognition engine"
I'll be a little annoyed if the sim free version has it.
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You're right, I quote their website "Imagine sending texts or emails simply by talking to your phone. Now do it, we're there."
I have sent them an e-mail asking if and when "we'll be there"...
trice1921 said:
Just tried Better Keyboard. When i press the speech button i get:
"your phone does not have speech recognition engine"
I'll be a little annoyed if the sim free version has it.
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Thats bad... Perhaps its just because of the T-Mobile Rom. But even this wouldnt make any sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZMURlBnUuk
Check this out.
That one is not T-Mobile version, I guess ...
The problem here is with the T-Mobile version, which does not include the voice to text "engine".
Or probably it (the engine) is disabled ... accidentally before shipping the device.
lukaswat said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZMURlBnUuk
Check this out.
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gogol said:
That one is not T-Mobile version, I guess ...
The problem here is with the T-Mobile version, which does not include the voice to text "engine".
Or probably it (the engine) is disabled ... accidentally before shipping the device.
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That's why im posting it. They probably left it out on the t-mobile version..
I have just ordered my Desire from Mobiles so was doing some advance reading and in one thread it mentioned running the Nexus One keyborad to get speech to text. The only problem is it doesn't say how to do it, one post says read the other thread but without a link. Can some kind sole point me in the right direction as my searches don't find it.
Thanks
Sully
The thing is that even if you get a keyboard with the speech-to-text button, it won't work, because you lack the engine. However, it has been speculated that only the T-mobile version lacks this function, and that the SIM free versions will have it.
The stuff I read showed a video of it working and the handset order is a unlocked version. Will wait and see I am sure it will be one of the things most users want to do.
Thanks for your reply
Sully
AudunXetrov said:
The thing is that even if you get a keyboard with the speech-to-text button, it won't work, because you lack the engine. However, it has been speculated that only the T-mobile version lacks this function, and that the SIM free versions will have it.
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What engine are you talking about? Everything is done on Google servers rather than on the phone. It worked on my G1, so I don't see why it wouldn't work on Desire.
Karolis how did you get it to work, is there a tut or instructions
Thanks
Sully
I used this on G1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416 but I can't install it on Desire because HTC_IME is in ROM and we have no root.
By the way, here's N1 LatinIME.apk http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5830176 -- I'll have to try adb method when I'm at home.
I think using that method we should be able to install either IME.
Will report back later...
Karolis said:
I used this on G1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416 but I can't install it on Desire because HTC_IME is in ROM and we have no root.
By the way, here's N1 LatinIME.apk http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5830176 -- I'll have to try adb method when I'm at home.
I think using that method we should be able to install either IME.
Will report back later...
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Thanks fella that is great, Mobiles now don't have stock even though the website shows in Stock so will have to wait a few days for the phone.
Sully
Karolis said:
What engine are you talking about? Everything is done on Google servers rather than on the phone. It worked on my G1, so I don't see why it wouldn't work on Desire.
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I don't have the phone yet personally, but a few people on here have reported that when they try to use the v2t function, they get error messages like "Missing engine" and "Your device does not support this function" (or something like that, I can't remember exactly what they were, but you should find them in the other threads on this subject)
I installed the following app labelled "Verizon 2.1 Keyboard With Voice Input" online. Having installed it I now have voice to text on the desire! It works best just with the android keyboard but it also works with better keyboard. I have not tried elsewhere yet.
I found it on the web site below.
link to warez site removed and then search for verizon
I have no idea about the website but the apk seems to work well. As for the voice recognition. The accuracy for me is good but not great.
hungabunga said:
Thanks fella that is great, Mobiles now don't have stock even though the website shows in Stock so will have to wait a few days for the phone.
Sully
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can't believe you just ''fella'd'' him! lol
theogre said:
I installed the following app labelled "Verizon 2.1 Keyboard With Voice Input" online. Having installed it I now have voice to text on the desire! It works best just with the android keyboard but it also works with better keyboard. I have not tried elsewhere yet.
I found it on the web site below.
link to warez site removed and then search for verizon
I have no idea about the website but the apk seems to work well. As for the voice recognition. The accuracy for me is good but not great.
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I appreciate you trying to help us all out, but that's a warez site and you can get banned for posting links like that...
Interesting enough, there seems to be no moderators on Desire forum
theogre said:
I installed the following app labelled "Verizon 2.1 Keyboard With Voice Input" online. Having installed it I now have voice to text on the desire! It works best just with the android keyboard but it also works with better keyboard. I have not tried elsewhere yet.
I found it on the web site below.
link to warez site removed and then search for verizon
I have no idea about the website but the apk seems to work well. As for the voice recognition. The accuracy for me is good but not great.
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works a treat for me thanks a lot, how do you actually use it to speak in the message app? I can click on the app and talk and google searches. Oh and i have changed the keyboard to Android in settings, it says when you change it "are you sure you want to do this blah blah due to keyloggers etc" and i have enabled voice input.
Ohh didn't realise it was warez soz..
Hey, that is interesting ... Dont you need to have "root" access?
theogre said:
I installed the following app labelled "Verizon 2.1 Keyboard With Voice Input" online. Having installed it I now have voice to text on the desire! It works best just with the android keyboard but it also works with better keyboard. I have not tried elsewhere yet.
I found it on the web site below.
link to warez site removed and then search for verizon
I have no idea about the website but the apk seems to work well. As for the voice recognition. The accuracy for me is good but not great.
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@topic
what happens when you switch the sense off? isnt the sense keyboard removed?
Sense UI and HTC_IME.apk work independently.
I have triend instaling modded HTC_IME as well as N1 keyboard via adb, but it's a no-go for a non-rooted phone
You will be disappointed when you get it i had it on my old phone the Milestone before i sold it and its not that good, doesn't get all the words right and its slow.
Barff1984 said:
can't believe you just ''fella'd'' him! lol
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I seem to use fella a lot at the moment
i email HTC to ask if the voice to text feature was disabled on the Sim Free version of the Desire and this is the response i got....
Thank you for your enquiry about voice to text.
Well the device does have voice to search via Google, so it should do. The only thing is you'll probably have to install some apps from market on the Device, hope this helps..
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So any one with the desire ATM does the above work? (i.e voice to search) i find the answer vague so i have asked for a yes or no answer to the question i asked. i quoted the desirehtc website where it states this feature will be available.
if anyone else has emailed HTC on this subject i would be interested in the response you got.
UPDATE
HTC have now resopnded with a Simple "NO" you will have to use a 3d party App.
no voice search here.
cos it's using the HTC IME, it is missing the microphone key that you get on the Android keyboard to use the voice to text functions.
whoever answered that at HTC obviously didn't have one to hand to check and was probably looking at the nexus....
Afternoon all,
After enabling the 'Voice to Text' as shown on How To Enable Voice To Text using one of the links on page 2 I have now got Google search by voice working on a T-Mobile Desire.
You don't have to change over to using the android keyboard if you don't want to use the main voice to text functionality, but now pressing and holding the search button brings up a pop-up on screen with 'Speak Now - Google Search' and a microphone symbol.
Seems to work fine to me.
works fine for me too.
Maybe it's coming in another update, this is from the htc website desirehtc dot com
" Android 2.1...
What's that all about then?
Launched in January 2010, and known in the trade as Eclair, this is basically an update to the operating system. In laymans terms, it's a sexier looking interface. But it's not quite that simple.
Now, for example, your Wallpapers can be animated, injecting your screen with a new lease of life. This works particularly well with the AMOLED screen.
Rather excitingly, it brings us into a realm where voice-to-text is a reality in all text fields. Imagine sending texts or emails simply by talking to your phone. Now do it, we're there. "
I'm sorry but voice search has always been there...
brummiesteven said:
I'm sorry but voice search has always been there...
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While u r 100% right about this bcaz u've got this voice2search on ur Desire....but I never had it on mine... Strange & annoying...
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K 7 said:
While u r 100% right about this bcaz u've got this voice2search on ur Desire....but I never had it on mine... Strange & annoying...
K7
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it is there you just need to enable it i guess
cez10 said:
it is there you just need to enable it i guess
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Can you please explain me steps how 2... appreciated.
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K 7 said:
Can you please explain me steps how 2... appreciated.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655094
Here it is, tried and tested.
1. goto settings
2. goto text to speech and install voice data
3. goto http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UQC37DJC on your desire
5. download it
6. install it (you may get a prompt saying that you need to change your settings to allow it to install, so do so)
7. next in settings again goto language & keyboard
8. tick android keyboard
9. click android keyboard settings
10. make sure voice input is ticked.
11. go into messages and hold down on TAP TO COMPOSE
12. select input method
13. then select android keyboard
14. click the mic and start talking
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cez10 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655094
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Cheers mate... great help, 1 more reason 2 love Desire...
Back to my orignal post.....
HTC tell me the voice - search is available by default (i.e not installing any other SW) they say it has to be enabled in settings then it work when using the search key/menu?
any one confirm this?
Actually, I also got a similar answer from HTC. I'm from Singapore though. Thus, most likely it is an unlocked version. My question was:
"Does the HTC Desire support the speech-to-text function out of the box? Does it also support AVI files? Thank You."
This is what i got.
"Thanks for contacting HTC.
For HTC Desire, it does have the function for Speech-to-text, but it doesn't support AVI file.
Thank you for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
We look forward to be of service to you again."
From this reply, it seems obvious what the answer is. But the truth, from those who already got the phone, are far from it. I had specifically said out of the box. But, as told by owners, you need to download apps and everything for this function. Just FYI, I do not own the Desire...yet XD
HTC says NO! to voice enabled in default.
Hi guys,
I think this is my very first message on these forums. I finally got myself a Desire here in the US. It's the European version but I don't really care as I work from home and will be using wi-fi most of the time.
Anyways, I was wondering if there is a speech to text function on the desire. I looked on youtube for tutorials and there was a tutorial for the N1 with Android 2.1 which is the same version I have on this Desire but I don't get the microphone icon on the touch screen keyboard,that is shown in the youtube video for the N1.
I'd appreciate some help.
Thnx.
EDIT: Nevermind, I found everything I needed after some search on the boards. I promise not to post a question before searching from now on
Look in your settings, you need to download, the speach to text
here are the instructions:
http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/04/add-full-voice-to-text-to-htc-desire/
Hi
I would have put this under the BlackJelly thread in the dev forum, but it seems that I'm not yet allowed to post replied there. So, I'm posting here, in hopes for help.
I have a few issues, but I will open them up in seperate threads, as though they are all about basic issues w\ BlackJelly, they are still quite distinct.
I'll start off by saying that generally speaking, I LOVE this ROM. I do, however, have a few issues that I need to take care of.
One of those issues is the T9 dialer. I use it very often. My problem is that it is only in English and my contacts are stored mostly in Hebrew. Is there any way of adding this to the dialer? I prefer not to stay on the stock dialer and not use exdialer (or other third party dialers) for a few reasons: (1) If I theme the ROM, I'd want the dialer to also be themed, (2) I want the dialer to clear my missed call notifications. It doesn't quite do the trick with exdialer and (3) I'd generally prefer as little uncessary software installed, so two dialers is a bit excessive.
If there's no way to do it, I'd appreciate getting an answer as to how I can at least solve issue (2) (clearing notifications).
Thanks!
Tal
LaDjA said:
Hi
I would have put this under the BlackJelly thread in the dev forum, but it seems that I'm not yet allowed to post replied there. So, I'm posting here, in hopes for help.
I have a few issues, but I will open them up in seperate threads, as though they are all about basic issues w\ BlackJelly, they are still quite distinct.
I'll start off by saying that generally speaking, I LOVE this ROM. I do, however, have a few issues that I need to take care of.
One of those issues is the T9 dialer. I use it very often. My problem is that it is only in English and my contacts are stored mostly in Hebrew. Is there any way of adding this to the dialer? I prefer not to stay on the stock dialer and not use exdialer (or other third party dialers) for a few reasons: (1) If I theme the ROM, I'd want the dialer to also be themed, (2) I want the dialer to clear my missed call notifications. It doesn't quite do the trick with exdialer and (3) I'd generally prefer as little uncessary software installed, so two dialers is a bit excessive.
If there's no way to do it, I'd appreciate getting an answer as to how I can at least solve issue (2) (clearing notifications).
Thanks!
Tal
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Wouldn't changing your device's language to hebrew fix your issue?
yes. But what if I simply dislike the Hebrew interface? I just need the Hebrew t9.
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