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Internal Memory

Does any one know how much Internal phone storage there is from stock(NEW) on the desire, it's just that I dont seem to have much on my phone there is only 14.46mb left, and also tried to install a game that is 8mb and it says there isnt enough room please free up some storage???????

I remember that on 2.1 it should be around 130mb. And on 2.2 i think i heard you had an additional 10 mb so 140mb.
So if your's starts with only 14.46 there is definitely something wrong. (are you sure you haven't installed a lot of stuff already?)

Flaggie said:
I remember that on 2.1 it should be around 130mb. And on 2.2 i think i heard you had an additional 10 mb so 140mb.
So if your's starts with only 14.46 there is definitely something wrong. (are you sure you haven't installed a lot of stuff already?)
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Rite at the min I have 13.68 mb free on the phone and the icon saying low space, and i have added up whats on the phone in apps and it's about 65mb so in total thats still not the 130.
Wonder where all my space is??????????????
Can any one help??????????

Would suggest hard reset and start from new
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root your phone, install custom mod that has apps2sd+, partition your sd card and all your problems will go away.

There should be 147MB free space for aps in Desire, I personally counted every installed app and i found out it is +-150MB, so its right

What is the advantage of partitioning the SD card?
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kickasskev
You have probably already checked this but just incase ............... have you checked if you are storing old emails - some attachments can use up alot of space

The desire is **** for the amount of internal memory available for apps, only about 147mb available on the desire compared to 1.8gb on the Samsung galaxy s. Even froyo apps2sd implementation is **** on recent update. I initially could transfer only bits of 7 apps to SD and later about a total of 11 apps to SD partially.
This internal memory problem is a major drawback on the desire. I have 2 desire phones both 3months old and both on htc froyo and not rooted, but if I was buying now I might have bought the galaxy s instead because of this memory issue. I like HTC sense but it occupies too much of the 500+mb of internal memory on the desire.
You can download quick system info app or other similar apps to check your system details.
I might try the sdk method for forcing apps to external memory but looking to see if it voids the warranty from HTC. HTC needs to get their heads out of their backside and deal with this apps2internal memory ****e. Plus allowing screen shots as in the galaxy s would be a bonus without rooting.
almost every day since i bought the phones i continuously have memory alerts as my internal free meory often fluctuates between 20 to 4mb as i gorge on loads of app and have about 117 icons now i think for apps on the apps/programs main folder, all apps are free, i would buy more if not for this memory problem. but i dont buy as i keep trying different apps on a daily basis and forced to uninstall apps to instal new ones due to memory problems. whats the ****ing point of allowing a 32gb card if one can only allow 147mb for any apps and programs on internal memory. atleast samsung in the samsung galaxy s had some foresight and put in 2gb internal memory of which 1.8gb can be used for apps unlike just 147mb on the desire.

Root your phone and force all apps to SD. I have over 20 apps installed and still have 100+mb of interal mememory left.
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bob dylan said:
Root your phone and force all apps to SD. I have over 20 apps installed and still have 100+mb of interal mememory left.
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i would if not for the guarantee issue. once i am sure the guarantee isnt voided then will go that route or try the sdk method without rooting mentioned on another thread. think will query in writing this with htc whether the sdk method will void the warranty. all i want (for now) is proper apps2sd (not the crap dished out with froyo) and screenshots like on the galaxy s would be a bonus.
at present have about 115 icons on my apps/programs section. not sure how many preinstalled and how many i installed. but have about 30.91mb left after uninstalling google earth because of freq memory issues as google earth takes up about 22.4mb even though the download file is just 5.1mb. so if i had google earth as well (which i like very much but cant have for want of space) then i would have only about 8mb left and market gives problems while doing updates and hang for more than 24h at a time. anything less than 15mb will give probs and consequently one gets onlt 147-15 = 132mb for actual use on the desire unlike 1.8gb on the samsung galaxy s.
i havent bought any games or other costly programs because of the crap internal memory issue.

i've recently installed a2sd through Rom manager, and was wondering, how do i know if the new apps i install is on the sd?
if i backup from titanium backup, from before i had a2sd, will it store on the sd or internal memory?

Are u guys using Exchange mail with stock mail app?
Maybe check the mail app data size first. There is a terrible bug that the stock mail app has memory leak issue and will leave huge unremovable data even if you removed all emails.
Only a factory reset will temporarily resolve this. This happens with stock 2.1. I am not sure about 2.2...
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So if I use revolked3 to root it and put app2sd will my froyo update which i have not had yet cos im on a branded o2 phone still work, cos i read some where people were having problems with revolked and the 2.2 update.
I have tried putting a stock rom on but with no joy and with 10 pairs of dirty pants later cos i keep ****in my self every time i try to do it cos i dont have a clue and i dont wanna brick me phone, so if anyone can tel me if this revolked3 is ok and wont mess with my update when I get it, I will put that on and install apps2sd

I'm having a similar problem. Before I rooted I only ever had one message advising I was low on disc space. I've now rooted using unrevoke and installed leedroid 1.9 with A2SD and I have constantly got the low disc space message. I have changed the modinstalllocation to the SD card and transferred every app it will let me transfer to the card. But I only have 9.08MB free on the phone?? Any ideas what I can do to free up more space?

Rik_UK said:
I'm having a similar problem. Before I rooted I only ever had one message advising I was low on disc space. I've now rooted using unrevoke and installed leedroid 1.9 with A2SD and I have constantly got the low disc space message. I have changed the modinstalllocation to the SD card and transferred every app it will let me transfer to the card. But I only have 9.08MB free on the phone?? Any ideas what I can do to free up more space?
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i am using leedroid as well...i have 115mb left. i have tons of apps including navigon which should take 25 mb without APPS2sd+.
when downloading leedroid make sure u download the APPStoSD+ that plus at the end is important. If you mix up with froyo APPS2sd which is rubbish u will still do down on space.
mod install location is also not very good.
partion your sd card with rom manager to ext3
then install leedroid APPS2SD+
dont use apps2sd froyo or mod install location

txitxi2004 said:
i am using leedroid as well...i have 115mb left. i have tons of apps including navigon which should take 25 mb without APPS2sd+.
when downloading leedroid make sure u download the APPStoSD+ that plus at the end is important. If you mix up with froyo APPS2sd which is rubbish u will still do down on space.
mod install location is also not very good.
partion your sd card with rom manager to ext3
then install leedroid APPS2SD+
dont use apps2sd froyo or mod install location
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Thanks. Will give that a try tonight.

Instead of starting a new one, I'll just post here.
If stock froyo has 150mb free space, there's something wrong with my internal memory. I just did a count (manually) of all apps (>100kb) and the total space was 40.43 MB. I excluded apps smaller than 100kb, which were the last 10-20 on the list, thus not a big difference. At the moment I have 27mb free space. I can imagine there's some "lost space" due to fragmentation, but 80mb ...
I already did the setInstallLocation mod to move some apps to SD. I think the next step is rooting... But I don't really want to do that before I figured out where those 80mb are.
The Desire is an amazing phone, but the internal memory makes it a prehistoric device. I mean, today we can cram terabytes in a wallet-sized case, but I'm still counting the kilobytes that would fit on my device...
EDIT: I updated google maps (4.5.1) and went to 19mb free space, there we go again...

Advantage of 1GB ROM over 512MB ROM?

In the current lineup of Windows Phone 7s, some phones have 512MB ROM while others have 1GB ROM. In Blackberries, Androids and Pres, this would mean the 1GB phones have double the storage space for apps because apps can only be installed on ROM memory (though Android now allows Apps2SD).
But in Windows Phone 7, I thought the OS created a single volume of the ROM + other memory (Flash or SD), meaning the apps can be installed anywhere. If the ROM only stores the OS and at max 60MB of pre-installed apps, what's the advantage of having 1GB ROM?

Haven't heard of any max. So no worries.

My guess is that if any updates require a good bit more space, only those phones will get it, like how the G1 was left out for not having enough ROM.

ckacey said:
My guess is that if any updates require a good bit more space, only those phones will get it, like how the G1 was left out for not having enough ROM.
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Though with that said I don't think Microsoft will be looking to make that mistake anytime soon.

The G1's issue was compounded by the fact that Android < 2.2 does not support installing applications to SD card. Windows Mobile devices didn't have all that much trouble getting upgrades from 5.0 to 6/6 to 6.1/6.1 to 6.5 with small ROMs because users could just install their applications to the SD Card (and Sync their media there as well).
Android didn't, so even if the OS could barely fit into the ROM, it would make the phone borderline unusable since unless it was an upgrade to 2.2 the applications and data/cache files woulnd't have anywhere to fit.
The HD2 came with a 1GB ROM/576 MB RAM for the US Market.
I personally hope that when Samsung releases the Vibrant FroYo, that it allows installing apps to the INTERNAL SD card, because I do not like installing apps to removeable media - personally.

I'm kinda sad to see the HD7 has half the ROM of the HD2, but sense and the tmobile crapware were probably taking loads of space there

Unless 512MB is all Microsoft needs for future updates + OS..
SO unless their plan is to release attractive phones to get people into buying them and getting used to the OS while only releasing Updates with Needed Features and Several Bug fixes so in the end the ROM is filled with Updates then they use the excuse that it won't support the next Step up since theres not enough space...
Just like Android in Some Cases...
It sounded better in my head

hakuchi18v said:
Unless 512MB is all Microsoft needs for future updates + OS..
SO unless their plan is to release attractive phones to get people into buying them and getting used to the OS while only releasing Updates with Needed Features and Several Bug fixes so in the end the ROM is filled with Updates then they use the excuse that it won't support the next Step up since theres not enough space...
Just like Android in Some Cases...
It sounded better in my head
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hmm That way you'd have to get a new phone for WP8. I've read that it is in the plan phase already

I don't think the phone OS will get any ware near that and so I don't think 1gb would be needed.

By the time WP8 is ready we'll all be ready for new phones anyway, unless it is ready before 2 years is up. But if they do it like Vista and W7 and leave a bit of breathing room, we'll be fine. If they pull an iPhone and WP8 is out next year, it'd best work on WP7 launch devices too, and be pushed through Zune. A $5 fee wouldn't be offensive if this time next year WP8 is ready.

I think that there seem to be some confusion about the term "ROM".
ROM stands for Read Only Memory, if it's a read only memory you have to erase the whole memory if you want to add something to it (i.e. flashing the device). If it's real ROM, you can't use it for apps, no matter what platform you're using.
Now I've heard somewhere that WP7 can mirror data on a smaller, but faster internal storage for fast access. If that is the case, and the 1GB isn't really a ROM, it could be used to mirror things of the Storage for fast access.

Sir. Haxalot said:
I think that there seem to be some confusion about the term "ROM".
ROM stands for Read Only Memory, if it's a read only memory you have to erase the whole memory if you want to add something to it (i.e. flashing the device). If it's real ROM, you can't use it for apps, no matter what platform you're using.
Now I've heard somewhere that WP7 can mirror data on a smaller, but faster internal storage for fast access. If that is the case, and the 1GB isn't really a ROM, it could be used to mirror things of the Storage for fast access.
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ROM is a misnomer but it's what OEMs refer to when talking about application memory. You do not need to erase the whole memory to add something new. The ROM space is meant to be changed infrequently.
I see two reasons why some WP7s have 1GB ROMs: (1) WP7 does install apps to the ROM for speed reasons; this means WP7 will be very limited in app size and some app developers will not create large, quality apps for WP7. (2) The phones with 1GB will also be Android phones, which by default install to ROM.

I still have not found an answer as to what's the advantage of having 1 GB of ROM on WP7.
I'm still guessing that like Android's Apps2SD, WP7 is writing only the apps' necessary files to the ROM and storing the rest of the app on the internal/SD memory.

I'm fairly sure that I'm right in saying that WP7 doesn't see a difference between the internal ROM and the Expanded storage (be it Nand or SD Card) as it stripes the two in a Raid type array. So it sees it all as one contiguous drive. I would imagine that the original OS image will be stored on part of the ROM, and when it's initially set up, or hard reset etc... then it will deploy the image onto the striped array?
So I don't think the size of the ROM will make any difference in terms of updates, applications etc... I'd be shocked if MS had set it up so that they wouldn't be able to deploy updates etc... due to storage constraints - that said, stranger things have happened!

"...writing only the apps' necessary files to the ROM..."
Am I the only one spotting the mistake here?
ROM stands for Read Only Memory. You cannot write to ROM.
There are types of ROM that can be rewritten via special processes, such as EEPROM (Electrically Erasable Programmable ROM).
But apps cannot write to ROM.

Jim Coleman said:
"...writing only the apps' necessary files to the ROM..."
Am I the only one spotting the mistake here?
ROM stands for Read Only Memory. You cannot write to ROM.
There are types of ROM that can be rewritten via special processes, such as EEPROM (Electrically Erasable Programmable ROM).
But apps cannot write to ROM.
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You are wrong; please refer to my post near the top of this page.
Take the HTC Droid Incredible for instance: it has 512MB ROM, 8GB internal Flash and up to 32GB SD. The OS and all applications are installed to the ROM. The OS takes up a lot of that space and you're left with very little room for apps. You can install and delete apps from the ROM as many times as you want.

Here's an interesting fact that makes the question even more intriguing: The HTC HD7 (512MB ROM) with 16GB memory and the Samsung Focus (1GB ROM) with 16GB memory (8GB embedded + 8GB SD) have the same amount of total storage--14.5 to 14.6GB. The few MB difference is likely from different pre installed apps (limit of 60MB pre installed).
This likely means that WP7 does not count ROM as part of the phone's storage. So why would Samsung put more ROM than needed on the Focus?

Pete2s said:
This likely means that WP7 does not count ROM as part of the phone's storage. So why would Samsung put more ROM than needed on the Focus?
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And that is the question that baffles here...

Still haven't figured it out.

Jim Coleman said:
"...writing only the apps' necessary files to the ROM..."
Am I the only one spotting the mistake here?
ROM stands for Read Only Memory. You cannot write to ROM.
There are types of ROM that can be rewritten via special processes, such as EEPROM (Electrically Erasable Programmable ROM).
But apps cannot write to ROM.
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That's not necessarily a typo. ROM chips are updated with software all the time and lots of people just say ROM because it's shorter, more convenient, adn it's what they're used to.
Lots of people said RAM even when there were SDRAM, RAMBUS, EEC-RAM, DRAM, etc. floating out there. It's just habit, and it doesn't necessarily destroy the accuracy or technical merits of the text.

Will phone manufacturers even listen and get it right ?

Hi
this is basically going to be a rant and rave but hopefully a constuctive one
For years i have had smartphones, mainly WM but have strayed to Symbian once and now Android with the Desire
I remember upgrading from the TYTN to the TYTNII and HTC not supplying the drivers we had no proper divx playback and this continued onto the Touch HD which is pretty much why i dediced to go to Android.
Now i have the Desire which i must admit is a very good phone but the storage spce is laughable even with Froyo update which helps a bit it's pathetic
Now i cant wholly blame HTC for this as it's the Android OS that is causing the issue but having more Internal Memory would help.
Strange that the reason for Android not having all data on the sd was to help with piracy and i must admit i have been very conciencous through the years and always bought what i used but now googles policy is forcing me the other way, why pay for apps that i have to uninstall so i can install something else.
Windows Mobile has allowed SD card installs since my first 2003 device, Android has taken a massive step back in my opinion. So much for the 1000's of apps on the android market, it does not say you can only browse them but dont install many as your phone will grind to a halt.
so not so long ago i thought i would get rid of the desire and try another android device only with more internal mem.
i looked at the X10 , looks a good phone but it's still on 1.6 and the promised updates are still just promises.
the Galaxy s looks excellent and has loads of space but it looking around it seems to have quite a few issues with lagging and the GPS issues.
So i thought about looking at the Desire HD but i have problems with the Battery life on the Desire and as the HD battery is smaller there is no way i could live with it.
It seems as if the Maunfacturers are just happy to churn these things out without too much thought , maybe it's cause they always want us to upgrade but just think if one actually made a phone that does what is is supposed to do and do them well they may end up with making a killing.
Rant mode over apart from now that i dont use sense i still cant find a 4x4 rss widget

machmandp said:
Hi
this is basically going to be a rant and rave but hopefully a constuctive one
For years i have had smartphones, mainly WM but have strayed to Symbian once and now Android with the Desire
I remember upgrading from the TYTN to the TYTNII and HTC not supplying the drivers we had no proper divx playback and this continued onto the Touch HD which is pretty much why i dediced to go to Android.
Now i have the Desire which i must admit is a very good phone but the storage spce is laughable even with Froyo update which helps a bit it's pathetic
Now i cant wholly blame HTC for this as it's the Android OS that is causing the issue but having more Internal Memory would help.
Strange that the reason for Android not having all data on the sd was to help with piracy and i must admit i have been very conciencous through the years and always bought what i used but now googles policy is forcing me the other way, why pay for apps that i have to uninstall so i can install something else.
Windows Mobile has allowed SD card installs since my first 2003 device, Android has taken a massive step back in my opinion. So much for the 1000's of apps on the android market, it does not say you can only browse them but dont install many as your phone will grind to a halt.
so not so long ago i thought i would get rid of the desire and try another android device only with more internal mem.
i looked at the X10 , looks a good phone but it's still on 1.6 and the promised updates are still just promises.
the Galaxy s looks excellent and has loads of space but it looking around it seems to have quite a few issues with lagging and the GPS issues.
So i thought about looking at the Desire HD but i have problems with the Battery life on the Desire and as the HD battery is smaller there is no way i could live with it.
It seems as if the Maunfacturers are just happy to churn these things out without too much thought , maybe it's cause they always want us to upgrade but just think if one actually made a phone that does what is is supposed to do and do them well they may end up with making a killing.
Rant mode over apart from now that i dont use sense i still cant find a 4x4 rss widget
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FYI, the battery is smaller on the desire HD because the 2nd generation snapdragon it has, has much improved battery performance so its not needed

sigh...here we go again...root your device, root your device
you are willing to go as far as buying a new handset?? but your not willing to root?
root your device, install A2SD+ and SD speed fix and you will never look back, it runs flawless
if you cant be bothered learning how, ask someone to do it for you
Tech magazines are choosing the HTC desire as phone as the year as one of the most balanced android phones available
issues like app storage, music/video stutter (due to slow SD read) and even gaming performance can be fixed or improved by rooting your device

hamdir said:
sigh...here we go again...root your device, root your device
you are willing to go as far as buying a new handset?? but your not willing to root?
root your device, install A2SD+ and SD speed fix and you will never look back, it runs flawless
if you cant be bothered learning how, ask someone to do it for you
Tech magazines are choosing the HTC desire as phone as the year as one of the most balanced android phones available
issues like app storage, music/video stutter (due to slow SD read) and even gaming performance can be fixed or improved by rooting your device
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The point is you shouldn't HAVE to root your Desire. Look at the Desire HD - 1.5GB of internal space. HTC realised they made a mistake and have now corrected this.
Just cause A2SD is available if you root some people don't WANT to root as it's shouldn't have been needed. For some warranty is actually important

hi again
I dont want to start arguments but as EddyOS wrote why should we have to root ?
to get the desire running well you have to invalidate the warranty does not sound too good.
anyhow i am rooted and use the Move2SDEnabler to move as many apps as possible but kept the stock rom as no orange rom is available as yet in case of warranty issues.
but some cannot be moved and i have 22mb free
a brief list of some of the app sizes i have
Google Maps 8.81mb
Swype 6.03mb
paypal 4.79mb
Ndrive 4.39mb
Gmail 4.1mb
Folder Org 3.88mb
launcher Pro 3.73mb
titanium Backup 2.88mb
Moblox 2.88
beautiful widgets 2.11mb
angry birds 1.92mb
just with these thats 45mb i obviously have more apps installed but as each one takes up anywhere from a few k to 2 mb then how are we expected to be able to install a good amount apps
can i do without any of the above maybe but the point is why should i have to - i purchased them and dont forget the main advertising points about Android are the Market and Customising the Launcher with Widgets.
And as regards to the desire having been chosen as the best phone i wonder how many of the reviewers actually use the phone daily or is it based on a few days usage.
I was under the impression that how i use Froyo Apps2SD was pretty much the same as Apps2SD+ but if you now different then please point me in the right direction
Thanks

A2SD in FroYo only moves the app itself and not the data accociated with it. This only works on apps that have been enabled by the developer to be moved. A2SD+ differs by actually using the EXT3 partition on the SD card as internal memory so all the app data is stored on the SD card (bar some data which has to remain on the device).
HTC have since addressed things with their new handsets by giving them a LOT more internal memory so this should be a thing of the past BUT it doesn't help Desire owners who, like you, can't root as there isn't a stock RUU to revert to for warranty issues (which is a whole different matter and why I only get generic handsets). The only way to incrase memory is to root

machmandp said:
i am rooted and use the Move2SDEnabler to move as many apps as possible but kept the stock rom as no orange rom is available as yet in case of warranty issues.
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You already have a 'void' warranty because you have root, you may aswell go the whole 9 yards and flash a custom rom. just make a nandroid backup of your current rom so you can go back to it if the worst happens.
Having a void warranty never stopped orange from swapping my phone.
I do agree that you shouldn't have to root your phone to make it work, but that's just the way it is

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A2SD in FroYo only moves the app itself and not the data accociated with it. This only works on apps that have been enabled by the developer to be moved. A2SD+ differs by actually using the EXT3 partition on the SD card as internal memory so all the app data is stored on the SD card (bar some data which has to remain on the device).
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Not entirely correct!
If you ModInstallLocation (which does not require root) you can force most apps to move to SD with FROYO A2SD - as far as I'm aware the exceptions to this have explicity disallowed this.
The main difference between FROYO A2SD and A2SD+ is that A2SD+ relocates the Dalvik cache to SD. Both methods leave /data/data on the device which in the case of some apps (e.g. Google Earth) can be quite substantial.
Personally I use FROYO A2SD, but I've repartitioned to reclaim space from /system and I use Fusecompress to compression the Dalvik cache.
To the OP, you can argue that this is an Android OS issue, but in my opinion this was always an issue with poorly specified hardware rather than the Oscar itself.
My Galaxy Tab has 2GB set aside for applications and the Desire Z/HD have 1.5GB, which rather renders any form of A2SD obsolete.
Regards,
Dave

Well,if you manage to break your phone somehow make sure you break it badly enough for rendering them unable to detect if you have it rooted!

mercianary said:
You already have a 'void' warranty because you have root, you may aswell go the whole 9 yards and flash a custom rom. just make a nandroid backup of your current rom so you can go back to it if the worst happens.
Having a void warranty never stopped orange from swapping my phone.
I do agree that you shouldn't have to root your phone to make it work, but that's just the way it is
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But you can remove the root right?
Because my Desire started up with the "rebootloop by itself" issue a month ago while I had LeeDroid 2.2x running, and so I removed root by installing a RUU and then sent it away for service like yesterday.
And then they can't void the warranty then right? RIGHT??? :S

Yes but the point is that Orange (the OPs operator) don't have an RUU so you can't do that

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Yes but the point is that Orange (the OPs operator) don't have an RUU so you can't do that
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Oh, didn't think about that at all.
Hmm, well then he does have some valid complaints. My biggest problem with the unrooted Desire is the internal memory, and I certainly didn't have any idea how small it was prior to purchase and just took for granted that you could store apps on the SD.

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Yes but the point is that Orange (the OPs operator) don't have an RUU so you can't do that
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Yep that's a big problem for me
As i said i have root but i thought (right or wrong) that if i ever have a problem there is more chance of the service centre not spotting anything if i still have the stock orange rom.
Also when i looked into flashing roms i'm sure that there was an issue with the Orange radio that caused massive problems and that really put me off from doing that.
I must admit i now have 19mb free and have had to delete some apps today after installing the flash update (Another 10mb) and it seems that updates are slowly eating all of the memory and surely HTC must have known this was going to be a problem.
Still i'll now try to look into maybe flashing a rom with APPS2SD+ and see if it's ok to do. i'll also hope for an Orange RUU to be leaked soon
Thanks all

This is what I'd do...
Remove all apps from the phone (uninstall them). And then reboot into recovery. Do a backup so you can revert back to it should you need to send it in (they may not realise you're rooted) but then you can go to a custom ROM using A2SD+ and see how you get on

EddyOS said:
This is what I'd do...
Remove all apps from the phone (uninstall them). And then reboot into recovery. Do a backup so you can revert back to it should you need to send it in (they may not realise you're rooted) but then you can go to a custom ROM using A2SD+ and see how you get on
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thanks
sounds like my only choice to avoid the low space
just need to double check the Orange radio thing first
Thanks all

The newer radios should work OK, if not you can use the radio you're on at present assuming you're on Android 2.2 at the moment (albeit the Orange version) - flashing a custom won't touch the radio unless it's included in the ROM file

The radio hasn't been a problem for a while. The newer radios wont lock your device.
My first orange desire was locked by a radio update. I had to fix it with an unlock code.
My second orange desire (warranty replacement) was not locked when I flashed the most recent radio.

Excellent thanks
One more quick question if I may
In your experience would I be better getting a fast mem card as I only have class 2 at the moment
Sent from my HTC Desire

I use a class 2 16GB card and have no issues

hi
well i finally got round to flashing a new rom
went for the leedroid in the end with A2SD+
I had a few issues but read up and worked around them although i read about a gold card but never created one so i hope i'm not setting myself up for a fall without it.
anyhow i'm glad i did it with loads of apps installed i still have 85mb free and nowhere near filled up my 1gb ext3 partition
thanks for the advice all

Running Out of Space? (CM7)

I have been running out of space lately, even with my CM7 a2sd+
Was considering getting another ROM which has data2sd, but luckily I found another way. A much better way.
There is a free app on the Android Market called simple2ext.
Now if you are running CM7 and have an ext4 partition, use this app to transfer all your apps, your davlik and cache (data is possible, but not recommended) to that ext4 partition, and your phone will think everything is still on phone memory. That means, yes, widgets can be used while they are installed on your SD. I now run 80% free phone memory
Well happy. I even donated the gold donation ($5) to the developer of simple2ext.

Thanks for the tipp. Will try it!
Klewe

In the thread for cyanogenmod 7 you find a nice thread for this program:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917377
There is also given another possibility, which i would prefer:
Legacy App2SD Addon Script

This is an absolutely priceless app! It has saved me the nightmare of constantly seeing the low memory warning. Now I can save as many apps to my Desire as I want!
Note: make sure you set your target destination for app downloads to internal. The app takes care of the rest for you.
Many thanks to the Dev

Excellent!
At some points I was thinking about throwing my Desire out the window. Now it's like a completely different phone.

It helps, but if u try another HBOOT, you will get more space without slowing the phone down. But its more risky

My handset is still lightning fast without another hboot
I think this is quicker, neater and easier for the same result
Personal preference though
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

[Q] Any Threads For Troubleshooting/Improving System Speed?

I'm running a stock, rooted Sense ROM (2.3.3) with Go Launcher (Sense kept re-launching every time I closed an app).
I have close to 140 apps installed, including the stock EVO apps, and 21 megs free. The low storage space alert is always in the notification bar.
My phone runs pretty slow: screen updates, opening apps, etc. Often, if I try to switch screens or go into settings, I have to wait... and wait.
This has been going on for months, and is constant - it never runs fast anymore.
I'm guessing it has to do with only having 21 megs available for apps? As far as what might be running in the background, in typical android fashion, if I open a task manager it will usually show eight to ten apps running. Apps I haven't used in days or weeks! Who knows why these apps are open.
Does anyone know of a thread or source for tracking down what might make these phones run so slow? Am I not allowed to have that many apps installed?

Well you say that you are rooted. So the first thing I would do is download Titanium backup from the market and "freeze" or uninstall all the sprint apps that you don't use. This will free up some space and help. Then go and find out about "V6 Supercharger". It is a script that will speed up your phone and stop the home screen from having to load every time. It's awesome.
Now if you are fully rooted, I would recomment flashing a new ROM. This will solve all of your problems at once. You can use titanium backup to backup all your apps and data then flash a ROM. Restore your apps, and use the V6 supercharger. It will be very zippy. I would recommend MikG for ya.

leebo said:
I'm running a stock, rooted Sense ROM (2.3.3) with Go Launcher (Sense kept re-launching every time I closed an app).
I have close to 140 apps installed, including the stock EVO apps, and 21 megs free. The low storage space alert is always in the notification bar.
My phone runs pretty slow: screen updates, opening apps, etc. Often, if I try to switch screens or go into settings, I have to wait... and wait.
This has been going on for months, and is constant - it never runs fast anymore.
I'm guessing it has to do with only having 21 megs available for apps? As far as what might be running in the background, in typical android fashion, if I open a task manager it will usually show eight to ten apps running. Apps I haven't used in days or weeks! Who knows why these apps are open.
Does anyone know of a thread or source for tracking down what might make these phones run so slow? Am I not allowed to have that many apps installed?
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This should help you out.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386911

Thanks.
Rocket, I forgot to mention that I already had Titanium BU installed and had removed many of the Sprint bloatware (been using TBU ever since I rooted over a year ago).
Will check out V6 Supercharger, however, I still don't know if remaining storage space is related to a phone's system speed.
Diablo, I saw that thread a few days ago. I didn't read it in detail though, just skimmed it.
I guess I will read it in detail and try out all those suggestions. My main desire is to have 4G, wireless tether, and the camera all work. That prevents me from using some of the ROM's out there that break those features. Oh, and having it respond quickly.
Getting rid of those annoying "Low on storage space" messages would also be great, but I guess I'll have to wait till my next phone for that!

Have you tries partitionong your sd card and using darktremora apps2sd I have 140 apps installed and over 200 megs of internal memory left

tha23kidd said:
Have you tries partitionong your sd card and using darktremora apps2sd I have 140 apps installed and over 200 megs of internal memory left
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I installed Brads updated Sprint V3 beta 4 last week. It has DT baked in I think.
I have yet to partition, but now I have about 80 Meg's free and the system speed is back!
I guess internal free space does indeed affect system speed.

leebo said:
I installed Brads updated Sprint V3 beta 4 last week. It has DT baked in I think.
I have yet to partition, but now I have about 80 Meg's free and the system speed is back!
I guess internal free space does indeed affect system speed.
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Your best bet is to hit that thread and partition your sd card,its essential fo newer roms trust me and leave at least 32MB of swap when doing a partition.