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Not trying to be a jerk, this is a sincere question. I really like my Tilt2 and don't want to get a newer phone with Droid on it. My phone is really, imo, built solid and has almost never failed to perform. I know it's a little heavy, but that doesn't bother me. I really would love to have a fully functional Droid that I could use. Mainly because I really don't like Apple and won't get an Iphone, even though I think the I-4 is a cool phone. Is there anything I can do as a forum member to help get this project further along? I was wondering if we could all maybe tackle 1 thing each and help out. Might not be anything I can do, but I'm willing to help if I can.
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Not trying to be a jerk, this is a sincere question. I really like my Tilt2 and don't want to get a newer phone with Droid on it. My phone is really, imo, built solid and has almost never failed to perform. I know it's a little heavy, but that doesn't bother me. I really would love to have a fully functional Droid that I could use. Mainly because I really don't like Apple and won't get an Iphone, even though I think the I-4 is a cool phone. Is there anything I can do as a forum member to help get this project further along? I was wondering if we could all maybe tackle 1 thing each and help out. Might not be anything I can do, but I'm willing to help if I can.
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I don't think anyone can be sure that Android will ever be finished. The developers have done much for this device, but with the HD2 finally able to boot the Linux kernel, I think most of the support we had will move towards getting Android on better, newer, and more capable devices like the HD2. In addition, most of the remaining problems with getting Android completely working are the ones that were very difficult to begin with. Things like initializing hardware correctly, and figuring out how to get the various parts of the device to talk to each other. I'm honestly kind of doubtful that we will see more development with Android on the Pro2, since AFAIK only one person is working on it (though I hope I'm wrong).
it seemed at first that android for the touch pro would never work but now the only thing that doesnt work is the camera. maybe the touch pro 2 will get to that level some day. who knows.
So from what I gathered, the Tilt 2 won't be having any further development to work with Android? I also still have my Fuze. Is that development continuing? If so, maybe I will keep my Fuze instead of selling it and use it to test with Android?
By the way, what is the real name for the Tilt 2? Is it Rhodium or ?
Thanks guys, this place really ROXS!
I await your replies!
ITAdmin
I'm not sure what you mean by complete. New builds are released all the time, etc. If you mean all hardware functioning, here is the list from Reefer's thread:
NOT WORKING IN THIS BUILD:
BT
Sound (in call mic and earpiece work, no ringtones or music)
Camera
Opengles: using software rendering for the time being.
Battery Meter
For sound, look here: http://www.ppcgeeks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121743
One guy has made an NDISwrapper for Android...amazing.
For HW3D, look here: http://www.ppcgeeks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125379
Battery Meter is working very well. It's not accurate (seems like it's 10-15% off) but it shows low, which means you can get charged up in time with no problems. I also recall phhusson saying this WILL be 100% some day, it's just very tedious and time consuming, and everyone is more concerned with making things run better and on more hardware.
In other words, development is still very much active and some very smart people are working on these problems. I believe Mr. Steve Ballmer said it best here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zEQhhaJsU4
If you're patient, more of the pieces will come together soon enough and Android for our device will be more complete (relatively speaking). For the record, I'm very content with the state of things. All development from here is just icing on the cake
Mods, if I'm not supposed to link to outside forums, just delete them and/or let me know. That's just where the more technical info is.
i thought sound was fixed already today there was a new build for rhodium?.
i think sound just got added but not for music. I think they upgraded the sound in the earpiece and speaker works now.
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i think sound just got added but not for music. I think they upgraded the sound in the earpiece and speaker works now.
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This is incorrect. Please leave the release posts to those doing the releasing.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I don't think anyone can be sure that Android will ever be finished. The developers have done much for this device, but with the HD2 finally able to boot the Linux kernel... ...I'm honestly kind of doubtful that we will see more development with Android on the Pro2, since AFAIK only one person is working on it (though I hope I'm wrong).
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This is also incorrect. TP2 development is moving along faster now than it has been in a while. Not everyone wants a HD2 just beacuse it can boot android. Sure it has a fancy screen but no hardware keyboard, so i'm not even considering it as an option for a new device. Also, for future reference there are quite a few more than just one person working on this...
Also, define finished? The OS itself is in constant development. Will Android itself ever be finished? I hope not.
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Also, define finished? The OS itself is in constant development. Will Android itself ever be finished? I hope not.
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ok, point taken. When will Android ever be fully functional on the Tilt 2 phone?
Now! Then! No, Then! When it's done. This isn't a native OS, don't go in expecting perfection. Go in expecting nothing and be amazed with every update. The alternative is to port it yourself. Good luck with that.
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Now! Then! No, Then! When it's done. This isn't a native OS, don't go in expecting perfection. Go in expecting nothing and be amazed with every update. The alternative is to port it yourself. Good luck with that.
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My initial question was pretty point blank. Don't expect perfection, just would like full functionality on my phone because I like the AnDroid OS. The question was never meant to be a gripe, not sure why it struck a chord with you. I don't know how to port it, so luck is not needed. Thanks anyway
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My initial question was pretty point blank. Don't expect perfection, just would like full functionality on my phone because I like the AnDroid OS. The question was never meant to be a gripe, not sure why it struck a chord with you. I don't know how to port it, so luck is not needed. Thanks anyway
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Are you serious?!?! What you are asking is very disrespectful because You obviously haven't even read the FAQ/WIKI because it states:
5) When will the next release be out? I can't wait to get more features on my phone!
The next release will be out when the developers are able to get it ready. They are contributing their time for free and can't work on it full time. If you want to help speed development, make a donation to one of the main developers to help encourage them, don't pester them by asking a million times when the next release will be out when they won't know until it is ready.
hope this helps clear things up.
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anyone seen how complete android is on the hd2? even the camera works. and it has a sense version. i want one of those 4.3" phones and ive held off because i want my next phone to be an android phone but the only large android phones are cdma. im thinking i may look around for an hd2 soon.
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anyone seen how complete android is on the hd2? even the camera works. and it has a sense version. i want one of those 4.3" phones and ive held off because i want my next phone to be an android phone but the only large android phones are cdma. im thinking i may look around for an hd2 soon.
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You might as well wait a few months, there will be a bigger, better, brighter android (as we have seen the last few months) - if you can't wait, the HD2 is very nice.
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Are you serious?!?! What you are asking is very disrespectful because You obviously haven't even read the FAQ/WIKI because it states:
5) When will the next release be out? I can't wait to get more features on my phone!
The next release will be out when the developers are able to get it ready. They are contributing their time for free and can't work on it full time. If you want to help speed development, make a donation to one of the main developers to help encourage them, don't pester them by asking a million times when the next release will be out when they won't know until it is ready.
hope this helps clear things up.
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Didn't have a clue I was being disrespectful. Maybe a couple people here just wear their hearts on their sleeves.
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Didn't have a clue I was being disrespectful. Maybe a couple people here just wear their hearts on their sleeves.
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you didn't have a clue mmh ? what where you thinking ? that those people are well paid for doing it, and because of that your in position to come here and whine ?
and it's nothing about wearing hearts on sleeves, since it's only repeating the obvious like breaking in open doors.
however, I have some question :
Is it possible to have a feedback from some developer if it is a question of money to make things go further. if yes, what would it be approximately.
because, it is nice to encourage people to donate, but I didn't read anywhere from some person actually working on the project that it is indeed a question of money.
maybe this would be the first thing to find out ? from the developers side, is there anything that "non-aware" people can make to get things go further ?
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Is it possible to have a feedback from some developer if it is a question of money to make things go further. if yes, what would it be approximately.
because, it is nice to encourage people to donate, but I didn't read anywhere from some person actually working on the project that it is indeed a question of money.
maybe this would be the first thing to find out ? from the developers side, is there anything that "non-aware" people can make to get things go further ?
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there's a bounty started for this, but i haven't been following it, i don't know how up to date it is. i'd link to it, but i'm not allowed to post links yet...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596370
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You might as well wait a few months, there will be a bigger, better, brighter android (as we have seen the last few months) - if you can't wait, the HD2 is very nice.
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I bought my HD2 as soon as it came out but I still want android on the tp2. I know its frustrating waiting for what seems forever. If you really cant wait go get a better more capable phone. The hd2 is great multipurpose device.
<3 my wing/tp2/hd2
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You might as well wait a few months, there will be a bigger, better, brighter android (as we have seen the last few months) - if you can't wait, the HD2 is very nice.
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like what? it has to work on atts network.
I did not know if I should put this in the general section or not. As many of you advance user dislike that section. But anyways... Today I came across this video, That clams that you can now use the iPhone OS on your android phone. I just wanted to know if you guys know anything about this. And do you think it is possible? Another thing? Is there anyone here that is working toward the same goal to have the iPhone OS on the android? Thanks is will really help me out.
P.S>Here is the link to the video:
youtube.com/watch?v=bxnUYtCm-Tw
I think it has been discussed before but I'll interject my opinion. Why in the name of sweet chocolate christ would you want to run the iphone os on here? I had every iphone since gen 1 and got the evo instead of iphone4 and I've never looked back. You know that expression" you don't know what you've got til its gone"? Well this is more like" you don't know what you had until you got something outrageously better"! I know devs like to do things just to prove it can be done. But id really hate to see a talented dev waste their time on this exercise in lew of something more useful like kernel, rom, and app development.
Just my$ 0.02. Change expected.
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Just watched the video. I guess its worth a shot i'm not sure what kind of risk it posses to your phone or even what it looks like. I would probably classify this under proceed with caution and only if you really know what you are doing.
I don't get it. If you wanted to run the iPhone OS on an EVO why didn't you buy an iPhone?
johnpucillo said:
I don't get it. If you wanted to run the iPhone OS on an EVO why didn't you buy an iPhone?
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QFT
from the fade
DeathBySnuggles said:
I think it has been discussed before but I'll interject my opinion. Why in the name of sweet chocolate christ would you want to run the iphone os on here? I had every iphone since gen 1 and got the evo instead of iphone4 and I've never looked back. You know that expression" you don't know what you've got til its gone"? Well this is more like" you don't know what you had until you got something outrageously better"! I know devs like to do things just to prove it can be done. But id really hate to see a talented dev waste their time on this exercise in lew of something more useful like kernel, rom, and app development.
Just my$ 0.02. Change expected.
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johnpucillo said:
I don't get it. If you wanted to run the iPhone OS on an EVO why didn't you buy an iPhone?
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I am not saying I want to.. I really want to know if it can be done. Also I am interested in a few things the iPhone OS offers, but why in sand hills would I do something as stupid as buy an iPhone. I would never buy an iPhone. I think the phone is a peace of crap. But if I don't pay for the OS then why would I care to try a few things!
Seems strange, they never actually show the iPhone OS running on an Android device so how can you even tell if this is legit?
If it is, I think it is pretty cool. I am definitely an Android fan, but the more our device can do is always better!
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I am not saying I want to.. I really want to know if it can be done. Also I am interested in a few things the iPhone OS offers, but why in sand hills would I do something as stupid as buy an iPhone. I would never buy an iPhone. I think the phone is a peace of crap. But if I don't pay for the OS then why would I care to try a few things!
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Thats why I am interested. Plus if it works thats another thing you can rub in an iphone owners face.
"Hey guess what. My Evo can be an iphone.....but why the hell would I want to do that!!!!! lol"
Stalte said:
Thats why I am interested. Plus if it works thats another thing you can rub in an iphone owners face.
"Hey guess what. My Evo can be an iphone.....but why the hell would I want to do that!!!!! lol"
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I know for one thing, I always here that the iPhone has some great game that have not made it's way over to Android yet so that might please alot of people.
Wonder if the OS is jail broken this way. I still don't believe that it works though. I think we would have heard a lot more about this........
Stalte said:
Thats why I am interested. Plus if it works thats another thing you can rub in an iphone owners face.
"Hey guess what. My Evo can be an iphone.....but why the hell would I want to do that!!!!! lol"
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Yeah! Exactly... If I could just prove it. I tried to download the file from the site but the site was down. But I did look more into and found out that this kid from NJ has proved this method works.
So here is a list of stuff our Evo's can already run:
Android 2.2
Windows 98
Windows XP
Windows 7 (Buggy)
Ubuntu (Linux)
iPhone OS (Once proven by me)
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I know for one thing, I always here that the iPhone has some great game that have not made it's way over to Android yet so that might please alot of people.
Wonder if the OS is jail broken this way. I still don't believe that it works though. I think we would have heard a lot more about this........
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First sorry I'm posting a lot I have history of confrontation with an iphone owner over whose device was better. So this sparks my interest a lot.
I agree it seems a bit fishy and the site to download the files doesn't exists according to Google chrome. So I cant even look into it or examine the files
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First sorry I'm posting a lot I have history of confrontation with an iphone owner over whose device was better. So this sparks my interest a lot.
I agree it seems a bit fishy and the site to download the files doesn't exists according to Google chrome. So I cant even look into it or examine the files
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So I just looked at the video again. Check out the comment: "yes, i have run into a lot of bugs. but i am working hard to fix them. This is why the files are not up yet. i hope to have them available with many bugs fixed by mid next week. for people that downloaded already.. please report bugs. thanks"
Sounds fishy... But yet cannot wait till they put it back up to confirm!
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So I just looked at the video again. Check out the comment: "yes, i have run into a lot of bugs. but i am working hard to fix them. This is why the files are not up yet. i hope to have them available with many bugs fixed by mid next week. for people that downloaded already.. please report bugs. thanks"
Sounds fishy... But yet cannot wait till they put it back up to confirm!
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Do we know which OS it is? It is 3 or 4?
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Seems strange, they never actually show the iPhone OS running on an Android device so how can you even tell if this is legit?
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+1 on that.
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If it is, I think it is pretty cool. I am definitely an Android fan, but the more our device can do is always better!
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+1 androids are way better.
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Yeah! Exactly... If I could just prove it. I tried to download the file from the site but the site was down. But I did look more into and found out that this kid from NJ has proved this method works.
So here is a list of stuff our Evo's can already run:
Android 2.2
Windows 98
Windows XP
Windows 7 (Buggy)
Ubuntu (Linux)
iPhone OS (Once proven by me)
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well post the proof that you found. because it all sounds like BS
dustindavidson900 said:
well post the proof that you found. because it all sounds like BS
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Hey your the guy from youtube. The one whose comments get deleted lol
Just messing with ya
Bump +1 same question
I'm not sure why anyone would ever want to run iOS.
Stalte said:
Hey your the guy from youtube. The one whose comments get deleted lol
Just messing with ya
Bump +1 same question
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yeah my buddy called him a faggg. he blocked me from commenting, but i had another account.. I wrote an IM to CrashImpact to see if he will post a video of it actually RUNNING on a REAL phone...
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I'm not sure why anyone would ever want to run iOS.
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To say that you can of course
PS: He said it runs iOS 3
DeathBySnuggles said:
I think it has been discussed before but I'll interject my opinion. Why in the name of sweet chocolate christ would you want to run the iphone os on here?
Just my$ 0.02. Change expected.
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LOL. Well put.
Sent from my FROYO'D EVO using xda app
i used to have a htc vogue (aka htc touch vx 6900 US Cellular) that would run android eclair but slowly. i was due for an upgrade and picked up the more powerful touch pro 2 specifically to run android smoother. i love the dual boot between a nice custom win mo rom and android,however, ive noticed there isnt nearly as many diffrent android developers trying to port or whatever the term is to get it to work on the touch pro 2 like there is with win mobile roms. project android froyo ([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) has the most working stuff but even on a overclock runs like crap,lagging and not running certain apps. the klinux eclair 2.1 sense UI is great but locks up,lags,no sounds and has no internet. neopeek's eclair runs the best out of them all,super fast and responsive but no internet,no live wall paper and no sounds.
can anyone point me in the right direction of a actual android project or update that can bring me as close to a functioning android OS that will work. eclair looks promising on speed,but there is to much that is still broke on it. thx
outlawbiker said:
can anyone point me in the right direction of a actual android project
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Are you implying the existing projects are not "actual"?
People have put a lot of time and effort into these projects, and that type of comment is not going to get you a lot of love on this forum.
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Are you implying the existing projects are not "actual"?
People have put a lot of time and effort into these projects, and that type of comment is not going to get you a lot of love on this forum.
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when i said "actual" i ment one that works, im not trying to criticize any of the developers here or not be appreciative. im just looking to have android run as smooth as everyone else does on their tp2.
TP2 Development
I am experiencing the same situation as you, but understand the TP2 is still under heavy development. Now that sound is working I would imagine stability and other features will be addressed in the next few weeks. If you want a phone that will work perfectly with Android switch to the HTC Desire that US Cellular just put out a few weeks back, it ships with Android. You can buy yourself out of the contract pro-rated for the time you have left. You cannot expect a phone that ships with Windows Mobile to run Android flawlessly. If you want to increase progress you can download the development tools and help, or you can post a bounty for items you would like addressed. You could also download the 6/20 version of MightyROM and enjoy a stable WM6.5 build. Good luck!
They all work, just to varying degrees.
([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) has the most working stuff
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That's probably the best build right there. If you were expecting Android to run flawlessly on your fancy new phone, you are very, very mistaken.
If you want Android to run like it does on Android-specific devices... then you probably should've bought an Android device.
yea, i know its still under dev, but its like i have to choose between lag on froyo builds but almost everything works,or eclair builds that run as smooth as silk but miss out on my data connection,gps,ect ect.
ive just spent so much time into studying everything into android development and installation/updates ect ect and i still haven't even scratched the surface and it becomes frustrating after a full month of installing and deleting and back and forth testing,trust me, i know we all do the same here,but my eyes are burning from reading so many forums/topics/guides and i figure ill just ask if anyone has got a few of the bugs i have mentioned out of the way.
i can appreciate that somethings dont work cause thats just the way it is,but the kicker here is that the froyo build has almost everything working correctly, not to go back right not and look at the topic,but the only thing thats not working is camera,battery and bluetooth i think? and no big deal i dont need it anyways right now, but why cant i get an eclair build in the same working order?
i just would of thought that what could be applied to froyo could just as easily been applied to eclair.
im on neopeek v1.1 eclair right now,im going to see if i can get my data connection for US cell to work with a few tweaks,but ill miss the live wallpapers and gps.
C'est la vie buddy.
lol,now after applying a fix for US cell's data network gps works but no data
rofl,this stuff is killing me! lol
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when i said "actual" i ment one that works
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This phrasing isn't any better.
The projects you've tried are as "actual" as it gets for now.
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This phrasing isn't any better.
The projects you've tried are as "actual" as it gets for now.
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omfg,stop being so anal. im sorry i didnt go to college and become a great English and writing major. if anyone can understand my meaning fine,and for anyone that twists their panties in a bunch im sorry. but im here asking for advice/questions/suggestions not trying to create a flame war or trolling. im sorry it insults you.
something i may have over looked is the possibility that other android builds are for gsm and NOT cdma? opps... but idk yet for sure, so far the best going is ([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) and i think ill just be going back to that. keep up the great work guys,looking forward to future updates.
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omfg,stop being so anal. im sorry i didnt go to college and become a great English and writing major. if anyone can understand my meaning fine,and for anyone that twists their panties in a bunch im sorry. but im here asking for advice/questions/suggestions not trying to create a flame war or trolling. im sorry it insults you.
something i may have over looked is the possibility that other android builds are for gsm and NOT cdma? opps... but idk yet for sure, so far the best going is ([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) and i think ill just be going back to that. keep up the great work guys,looking forward to future updates.
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You're... acting like a child dude. Hence the backlash.
Basically you're wanting something that a company would pay a hundred people to code & get 'perfect' - well this project is done by volunteers in their free time.
I'm sure they would appreciate a donation, if you can't contribute in any other way...
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You're... acting like a child dude. Hence the backlash.
Basically you're wanting something that a company would pay a hundred people to code & get 'perfect' - well this project is done by volunteers in their free time.
I'm sure they would appreciate a donation, if you can't contribute in any other way...
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um no,im not looking for perfection, im looking to find out which one if any i have overlooked works best as of current,either by a whole new development,or by updates or tweaks. how am i supposed to help contribute my findings and fixes when i cant get the damn thing as stable as it is on your phone?
when i say "works" i mean that as in what works for you? not as in its got to be 100 percent perfect.
once again let me explain why i started this thread seeing how we seem to not be on the same level of thinking here. ill be as clear as crystal so you dont miss a beat.follow with me here...
froyo from prj android works but has a few glitches here and there (and i applaud their work and contribution to us all and i dont expect it to be 100%),i would just like it run how everyone else has on their tp2 that ive seen on youtube. eclair runs faster and smoother and is more responsive but somethings are not working on TP2. is there any updates on eclair builds? is there anybody that is having lag issues on prj android froyo,or are there some tweaks/settings/ or apps to smooth it out? why has dev shifted from eclair to froyo if eclair was running as smooth as it is,or is it just my phone sucks for some reason and eclair runs faster on it?
im trying to see what other users settings are,other experiences and other alternatives. what "works" for you. not some kind of im asking for a whole re write of the port on my lap. or slave your work to me. but now weve already gone beyond that point now haven't we?
how am i supposed to help contribute my findings and fixes when i cant get the damn thing as stable as it is on your phone?
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I'm not sure what to tell you. I doubt my phone works any better than yours or anyone elses - it's FAR from perfect, as you've found and evidently have accepted.
So wait and be patient for new developments with the project - it's always gotten better & better.
With that said, I can only assume eclair development stopped because I know I'd prefer to run froyo over eclair... You can try throwing a new zImage/modules/rootfs at an eclair build, but no guranatees there.
Did you ever think it could be your SD card? Have you tried switching them out? Have you done a FULL (not quick) format to FAT32?
Froyo runs WAY faster than Eclair EVER did on my handset. There is no doubt about the difference, and thats why development shifted away from a dying and outdated version.
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um no,im not looking for perfection, im looking to find out which one if any i have overlooked works best as of current,either by a whole new development,or by updates or tweaks. how am i supposed to help contribute my findings and fixes when i cant get the damn thing as stable as it is on your phone?
when i say "works" i mean that as in what works for you? not as in its got to be 100 percent perfect.
once again let me explain why i started this thread seeing how we seem to not be on the same level of thinking here. ill be as clear as crystal so you dont miss a beat.follow with me here...
froyo from prj android works but has a few glitches here and there (and i applaud their work and contribution to us all and i dont expect it to be 100%),i would just like it run how everyone else has on their tp2 that ive seen on youtube. eclair runs faster and smoother and is more responsive but somethings are not working on TP2. is there any updates on eclair builds? is there anybody that is having lag issues on prj android froyo,or are there some tweaks/settings/ or apps to smooth it out? why has dev shifted from eclair to froyo if eclair was running as smooth as it is,or is it just my phone sucks for some reason and eclair runs faster on it?
im trying to see what other users settings are,other experiences and other alternatives. what "works" for you. not some kind of im asking for a whole re write of the port on my lap. or slave your work to me. but now weve already gone beyond that point now haven't we?
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the xdandroid port featuring froyo is the best there is atm, nothing else. You can overclock to get "perfection" if you think thats something you are allowed to say. Fact of the matter is that you arent developing these port, nor are you contributing in any way shape or form. If you are looking for a smooth android experience go get an android phone, if you want novelty and pioneering then stick to your TP2 and install xdandroid and stop arguing with other members on this forum.
As for all the questions you asked in the post I quoted, there is a search button you could use so that you dont have to start useless threads.
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the xdandroid port featuring froyo is the best there is atm, nothing else.
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What makes you say it's better than Neopeek's? A lot of users say that with the use of the Linux partitioning, that build runs much faster.
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What makes you say it's better than Neopeek's? A lot of users say that with the use of the Linux partitioning, that build runs much faster.
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I personally have tried them both and I just like xdandroid posted by reefer better, so I guess I should have said " in my opinion" rather than just "atm". my bad. I just hate it when people come into forums just to ask questions and to belittle the developers work and not search first themselves. Usually those are the people that are here solely to freeload and not even help with troubleshooting other members problems or post experiences.
this is actually my 10th or more install of prj android froyo and this time for some weird reason it is faster.
yes i did format the sd card the long way, i used gparted live cd as well because i had to set it up for neopeek in 2 partitions . i have two sd cards at 2 and 4 gigs (i swap between) that i just decided to keep a 512mb partition in ext2 for projects like neopeek on both of them.
regardless this time around is giving me a faster experience on froyo, and i didnt edit change anything,just the common install with a soft restart as usual.i am using the blazn overclock i believe it is 716 or 768 mhz.
and of coarse i will keep you posted on any changes or fixes i find.
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the xdandroid port featuring froyo is the best there is atm, nothing else. You can overclock to get "perfection" if you think thats something you are allowed to say. Fact of the matter is that you arent developing these port, nor are you contributing in any way shape or form. If you are looking for a smooth android experience go get an android phone, if you want novelty and pioneering then stick to your TP2 and install xdandroid and stop arguing with other members on this forum.
As for all the questions you asked in the post I quoted, there is a search button you could use so that you dont have to start useless threads.
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I personally have tried them both and I just like xdandroid posted by reefer better, so I guess I should have said " in my opinion" rather than just "atm". my bad. I just hate it when people come into forums just to ask questions and to belittle the developers work and not search first themselves. Usually those are the people that are here solely to freeload and not even help with troubleshooting other members problems or post experiences.
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what is it with you people, didn't mommy and daddy love you enough as a child and teach you if you dont have anything good to say then dont say it all. who is belittling developers? i didnt come in here saying i think some one from this project or that is retarded,as a matter of fact i am grateful for the work these people have done and your trying to belittle me. im explaining what issues im having between different projects and jerks like you are trying to make me look like the bad guy.so comon down from your high horse and actually read what im talking about instead of jumping of the handle and making your self look like a complete jackass. yet once again, you miss the point. if i wanted an android phone i would of got one from the beginning ,i got a tp2 obviously to play around with android,see what it can do,what i can do to it and other reasons. ive got a few dev tools to create software for android i would like to use, so im asking questions, and if you sat a computer for as long as i have researching this with 30 or more tabs open trying to take notes from other threads,you'd be sick of reading all this other crap and post your own experiences/questions too.
and im a little well wiser than to keep stroking your ego,because people like you starve for the attention,otherwise you wouldnt jump into this thread to post your snotty ass comments.so if you wanna keep talking crap instead of offering something insightful to say,go ahead,cause im done dealing with **** heads like you.
Well another thread where you all jump on someone and make him look like an asshole for asking questions. How can you help people when you treat them like ****? I've been working with Linux and Android for a while now and I bet half of you write code that looks like a kid scribbling on the back of a McDonald´s napkin. I tell you what.. Treat people better and you just might have more people to aid in the projects and to the functionally quality. I have been messing with Linux and the open source development scene for years and this is a joke. Like a bunch of kids with computers and a power trip but on the same token you all write code like old people ****
I dont know if this is the appropriate forum but i think it would be cool if we could get windows phone 7 running on our EVOs, the HD2 recently got it and its similar in hardware so i dont see why it wouldnt be possible
+1 That would be sweet!
Well first wrong forum. Second yeah, it would be cool but if you look at the rom for the hd2 there are a lot of tiles still not working. Also the hd2 is GSM and there are GSM wp7 phone out. Without a wp7 phone on cdma it is hard as getting the radios to work is difficult. At least hat was the impression I had.
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Well first wrong forum. Second yeah, it would be cool but if you look at the rom for the hd2 there are a lot of tiles still not working. Also the hd2 is GSM and there are GSM wp7 phone out. Without a wp7 phone on cdma it is hard as getting the radios to work is difficult. At least hat was the impression I had.
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That don't mean nothing. The acer liquid is only gsm and there is a port of that for the EVO.
+10 on this, I looked at one the other day and those things are pretty sweet. Absolutely love android but this would still be an awesome port.
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Well first wrong forum.
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Why is this wrong forum?
It's a development related request.
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Why is this wrong forum?
It's a development related request.
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+1, exactly what I was wondering
mattykinsx said:
Why is this wrong forum?
It's a development related request.
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corybucher said:
+1, exactly what I was wondering
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Development section is for releases, not questions
Veritas06 said:
Development section is for releases, not questions
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It should be reworded but it's basically a request.
And being how it's a developmental issue it seems to be the right place for it.
mattykinsx said:
It should be reworded but it's basically a request.
And being how it's a developmental issue it seems to be the right place for it.
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It's still not a release though. As soon as some work is (if ever) started on it, this would be the correct section.
You're in the right forum, don't worry
Does anyone else thing that the WP7 look is incredibly ugly, or is it just me? haha
It would be quite wonderful to port WP7 to a phone like the EVO. But I believe it will be a daunting task as the HD2 has it easy(ish) they have windows mobile already installed on the device. If there is a similar device with the same hardware as the EVO running WP7 then it might be easier.
Drivers are the hardest to get working, the software could problably be made to work relatively easy. But without drivers to communicate with the cpu, storage, display, and etc there would not be much to see at all even if the software was able to run.
Plus and from my understanding that WP7 is pretty locked down at the moment and not all features would be accessible. Though that is a thought without any research into the subject.
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Plus and from my understanding that WP7 is pretty locked down at the moment and not all features would be accessible. Though that is a thought without any research into the subject.
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Yeah, I don't believe they have the full API for the camera among several other things.
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You're in the right forum, don't worry
Does anyone else thing that the WP7 look is incredibly ugly, or is it just me? haha
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I agree 100%. It was designed for tweenagers to be able to do all their social networking. Its kin 2.0 and they are even considering adding a new 'kin' studio. Personally, I don't recommend trying to port it over to an android device as Microsoft might not take too kindly to the licensing issue.
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If there is a similar device with the same hardware as the EVO running WP7 then it might be easier.
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HTC HD7 is a pretty much an HD2 with WP7 if I'm not mistaken...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818607
The hd2 is pretty much a evo just GSM.
flame and troll and flame and troll and bash someone for bringing up a great idea now back to flame and troll and flame and troll.
To the OP love the idea hope to see it come to light, ill definitely try it if someone can do it.
devs should not waste time with other OS's. reason being is that too much work is needed just to get everything working, and thats the job of the manufacturer. i rather they spend it adding/improving features to the solid foundation we have already, android.
plus android is free, windows is not and nor htc or you paid for windows on the evo so even if they had a fully working port you'd somehow have to get a license from MS and since they only sell oem license to manufacturer dont know how you could even legally get one. just my 2 cents
This would be REALLY sweet, but i dont see it working out until a CDMA WP7 is released, porting from GSM is 1000x harder to get working real well E.X. - Desire HD/Acer liquid ports.
I was in the microsoft store at my mall, they said a sprint CMDA WP7 is due this year. I'd be willing to bet itll be ported within a week after its released.
Hello,
I saw the Verizon S3 has been given the ability to run 2 windows at the same time.
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Im just curious at why this feature hasnt been ported to the Gnex? Maybe its the hardware specs but its just a question i thought of!
Thanks for reading!:good:
Been a while since this question was asked flooded the forum daily, but the general consensus then was it is not possible w/o a touchwiz port. If you want more info, do a search, it's been talked about multiple times.
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Been a while since this question was asked flooded the forum daily, but the general consensus then was it is not possible w/o a touchwiz port. If you want more info, do a search, it's been talked about multiple times.
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yep I've been reading. there were some beta/alpha releases with touch wiz that gave the ability, very slightly. Force closed every few seconds, but other than that we would need a skilled developer and lots of time haha
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yep I've been reading. there were some beta/alpha releases with touch wiz that gave the ability, very slightly. Force closed every few seconds, but other than that we would need a skilled developer and lots of time haha
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Most of us here agree that nobody wants TW/BLUR/etc, we bought Nexus for "pure Android" or AOSP or an enhanced AOSP ROM. That is why you wont likely see fully functional ports of those skins/overlays/bloatware, we bought Nexus to get away from that bs. No offense to anybody who likes those skins or the features that they might come with, but the Nexus community is more AOSP focused.
hardware doesn't powerful enough, so if you run two window in GNexus, you will feel that works too slow
I think AOSP is great indeed! im not one for sence, unless its sense 5.0, and TW just has the neat window effect. Im sure eventually it could be created natively eventually. The Halo idea is a step towards it i think. Maybe one day!
What about Cornerstone? I loved it on my tablet, while I used it. Not sure how well it would work on a smaller screen though.
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What about Cornerstone? I loved it on my tablet, while I used it. Not sure how well it would work on a smaller screen though.
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Pretty cool reading up on it! Not an app, but has to be built into the ROM itself. Its open source now and looks doable? if there is a will, there is a way. thanks for the share!
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Pretty cool reading up on it! Not an app, but has to be built into the ROM itself. Its open source now and looks doable? if there is a will, there is a way. thanks for the share!
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Yeah, sorry if I created any confusion. It definitely needs to be baked into the ROM source. "He who we do not name" had an Iconia A500 ICS ROM with Cornerstone built in. It was nice but he didn't include it in future releases of ICS or JB. My understanding is, is that it's really designed for larger screen devices like tablets. I'm pretty sure text etc. would be too small to read in the smaller multitasking windows. But running 2+ apps at once on a GNex and being able to bring them to the larger window at will would be pretty darn sweet. :highfive:
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Yeah, sorry if I created any confusion. It definitely needs to be baked into the ROM source. "He who we do not name" had an Iconia A500 ICS ROM with Cornerstone built in. It was nice but he didn't include it in future releases of ICS or JB. My understanding is, is that it's really designed for larger screen devices like tablets. I'm pretty sure text etc. would be too small to read in the smaller multitasking windows. But running 2+ apps at once on a GNex and being able to bring them to the larger window at will would be pretty darn sweet. :highfive:
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Hell yeah!
Here are some nightly builds it appears for the GNEX, but not for toro, which i have.
Link is here
In all honesty, why? The device's age is clearly showing with the ongoing firmware updates that are optimized for higher end devices. The GN, while still a great phone, is becoming somewhat slow and I can't see a mod like this being any better.
It would be indeed a cool idea for the N4 though.
you can try to do a full wipe, it often works
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In all honesty, why? The device's age is clearly showing with the ongoing firmware updates that are optimized for higher end devices. The GN, while still a great phone, is becoming somewhat slow and I can't see a mod like this being any better.
It would be indeed a cool idea for the N4 though.
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I agree. :good:
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I agree. :good:
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Mine as well keep whats alive alive! the development in the gnex is still outstanding.