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Orange Network locked unlock sim after OTA update

Hello,
Need some help.
Unbranded my desire today which went well. It asked me if I wanted to update the software OTA which I clicked yes to. This is where it all went wrong, phone now comes up with Network locked unlock sim.
Can anyone help me get round this, I read a thread a couple of days ago where someone had the same problem but I can't for the life of me find it. Any help would be very appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Hi there mate. I dont know the answer to your problem but can say that no one else has ever posted that exact error. Can you confirm the EXACT wording of the error and and numbers it may throw. If its already correct (including any punctuation) it seems you have a very unique problem.

jamesmcuk said:
Hi there mate. I dont know the answer to your problem but can say that no one else has ever posted that exact error. Can you confirm the EXACT wording of the error and and numbers it may throw. If its already correct (including any punctuation) it seems you have a very unique problem.
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It may not have been here but I think it was.
Basically it was a branded Orange Desire.
After much reading I decided that I wanted to get of all the Orange stuff that comes bundled and cannot be removed.
I followed a guide to de-brand the phone which worked perfectly. When I first turned the phone on and checked the software update it said 1 update was available, I chose to download and install the update. When I checked the phone version it was 2.1update 1 (I think).
Turned the phone off and on again and went back into the software update and was offered another update which I assumed was Froyo, chose to download and install that via wifi. Everything seemed to work but when the phone rebooted it came up with the following message "SIM network unlock PIN" there is no other error code and it wants an 8 digit code.
Called Orange and played dumb and they said that they would send me a new phone but I've told them to hold off for now.
Thank in advance.

Hmmm looks like you may have flashed a Branded ROM for another provider which I didn't thik had any effect on provider locks. But in the lack of help from anywhere else you could always try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748105 which is what I did on my Virgin Mobile UK Branded and locked phone. SOrry I cant help further

You could buy an unlock code online..That should sort it.

It looks like your using an incompatible radio. Which version are you using? To find out go to settings - about phone then it should be baseband version?

Ramshanker said:
You could buy an unlock code online..That should sort it.
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Don't want to pay if I can lol
kirbz said:
It looks like your using an incompatible radio. Which version are you using? To find out go to settings - about phone then it should be baseband version?
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No can do, can't get into the phone at all.
I'm trying to install the Froyo update from the SD card as posted by jamesmcuk, currently installing so I'll post back what happens.

fingers crossed for you mate!!!!!!!!

jamesmcuk said:
fingers crossed for you mate!!!!!!!!
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Wanted to post back, thanks for the great advice. Hope this thread cones in useful for someone else.
Got a fully up to date Droid, didn't have to pay Orange for the Network unlock code either lol

really pleased mate well done! Its scary **** when you may have to pay out for the bugger lol

good advice in this thread

Got it up and running yet?
If not, take the SIM out and find the software version in settings. If it's something like:
x.xx.405.x
then you have an unbranded ROM which most people have had issues with with Orange phones. You could try updating to Froyo if the OTA update is still available as that should flash a working radio or just buy an unlock code for about a tenner that would be best in the long run.

Just to let you know that the latest radio is compatible with orange (I have it) its 5.09.00.20. Shouldn't sim lock your phone. Good luck. Hope you get it sorted.

ChemicalKicks said:
Wanted to post back, thanks for the great advice. Hope this thread cones in useful for someone else.
Got a fully up to date Droid, didn't have to pay Orange for the Network unlock code either lol
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This post says that he sorted it.

i am sure its an incorrect radio take your sim out and you should have access , i ended up rooting the device using revoke one click method very easy just follow carfully then i installed a custom rom and a new radio
this is the orange one for bootloader 0.75 "update-bravo-radio-32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11-signed" all working great the rom i used was "Official_FroYo_Market_fixed"
hope this helps actually just upgraded radio to 5.09 with no problem

Yeah got this sorted peeps.
Didn't mess around looking up radio's or anything like that.
This is what happened to me.
1. Debranded Orange Desire from 2.1update1 to Generic 2.1
2. Upgraded OTA from Generic 2.1 to 2.1update1
3. Was offered and accepted update to Froyo
4. Got error saying SIM locked unlock sim
5. Put Froyo ROM onto SD card and loaded it via recovery
6. Enjoyed having the last laugh over Orange technical support
Thank you to jamesmcuk who's post (I think it was 4 or 5) resolved my problem, would suggest the same process to anyone else who had the same problem that I had.
On another note, how do I check what radio version I have and if it's upto date?

ChemicalKicks said:
Yeah got this sorted peeps.
Didn't mess around looking up radio's or anything like that.
This is what happened to me.
1. Debranded Orange Desire from 2.1update1 to Generic 2.1
2. Upgraded OTA from Generic 2.1 to 2.1update1
3. Was offered and accepted update to Froyo
4. Got error saying SIM locked unlock sim
5. Put Froyo ROM onto SD card and loaded it via recovery
6. Enjoyed having the last laugh over Orange technical support
Thank you to jamesmcuk who's post (I think it was 4 or 5) resolved my problem, would suggest the same process to anyone else who had the same problem that I had.
On another note, how do I check what radio version I have and if it's upto date?
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Go to Settings > About Phone > Software Information and it's the 'Baseband version'.

steve228uk said:
Go to Settings > About Phone > Software Information and it's the 'Baseband version'.
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32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 is that good?

ChemicalKicks said:
32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 is that good?
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Same one I'm runnin'

Big Problem Help Please! Stuck on 1.19.707.1 Asia WWE wont OTA update

I Just got this phone today, and the software version is 1.19.707.1 Singapore or Asia WWE I think so. I have read that this phone cant be updated?
What can I do If someone can give me the links to upgrade or any conclusive info on this software and phone. I see most people are on 1.29 and this is way ahead of what I have with 1.19.707.1
Other than being on this outdated software the phone seems to operate really good other than battery life, which is why I want to update the phone. I have been using it all day and nothing seems wrong as of yet? I didn't do any extensive testing just using everyday apps, so far no flicker or build quality issues that Ive noticed. It was made in China at least that's what it says on my IMIE information paper but on the back of the booklets say made in Malaysia.
Anyways any help would be appreciated if this is a non-updatable version why would Negri sell this phone, if so I'm pissed!
I just need a lead I have flashed a lot of Tablets and Sammy phones in my time but HTC is new to me. Any help would be really appreciated. Maybe someone can help me out here I did a search and read some pages and other people have had the same problem, but really didn't address how to update, when they updated they said it messed their phone up, something about 0% battery after they updated? So I'm really confused now on what to do. Once again thanks for any help in advance.

Might be lucky and have S off.

Yeah I wish, Even though I really don't know what S-Off is but I've been reading about it, full control of your phone, right? Sounds Like a more advanced version of SuperUser. This is my first phone other than Samsung.

Hold down power and both volume plus and minus at the same time and have a look. Only s off I have seen was a 1.19 software

Ive been reading is there any way out of this software or am I stuck because I'm pretty pissed right now. I've been up all night and it doesn't seem to be a solution!!!! My phone is completely stock. No S-Off by the way. I'm really PISSED OFF right now I guess there's no way to get out of this software version, unless I'm in Asia!!! They already have newer versions out in Asia I think 1.28.xxx and I'm stuck on 1.19.707.1 pre-release. So what now either send it back to Negri for a refurbish because of their return policy sucks, or can I even put root on this phone I read somewhere that I cant even root it, It will say that I have 0% battery life? I don't know but I'm mad as hell. How are they sending out phones with software that is beta - pre released? Someone on here who knows HTC devices get me out of this mess. This aint a good first experience with HTC phones........
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Ok I finally found some info I guess I can flash this RUU_ENDEAVOR_U_ICS_40_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.28.707.10_Radio_1.1204.103.14_release_257076_signed.exe ---- I have a CID_40 Unit Stock no mods I hear its Singapore, but that file will work, I guess. The only thing is I don't know how to flash this file? Can any help, send me to a guide or link on how to flash these? I tried it while the phone was on in usb debug mode didn't work it gave error 107 I think.

No one else has had this issue? I might send this phone back...... I don't want to stay on the very first release of software, etc. forever. This phone is excellent in every other way no flaws at all. This is the last thing I was worried about before it arrived. I've been up all night trying to figure this out.

Yes same issue!! please let me know what you did. Driving me nuts. considering rooting and installing custom rom but would rather not if possible.
Anyone else?
would a factory reset help kick a update into gear?
lost.

drvsbsm said:
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Ok I finally found some info I guess I can flash this RUU_ENDEAVOR_U_ICS_40_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.28.707.10_Radio_1.1204.103.14_release_257076_signed.exe ---- I have a CID_40 Unit Stock no mods I hear its Singapore, but that file will work, I guess. The only thing is I don't know how to flash this file? Can any help, send me to a guide or link on how to flash these? I tried it while the phone was on in usb debug mode didn't work it gave error 107 I think.
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If you have the RUU, just plug the phone in (do nothing special) and run the RUU from your pc. It'll do the rest for you. Once you're udated with the RUU you should see OTA's flow normally.
M.
Edit - I also found the RUU to work from fastboot as well. Hold Vol- when turning on phone, then use vol buttons to pick fastboot and power to select. Plug into computer and you should see it change to "fastboot usb". Then run the RUU on your pc.

I also found the RUU to work from fastboot as well. Hold Vol- when turning on phone, then use vol buttons to pick fastboot and power to select. Plug into computer and you should see it change to "fastboot usb". Then run the RUU on your pc.
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This is what I did put ruu_endeavor_u_ics_40_htc_asia_wwe_1.26.707.4_radio_1.1204.90.13_release_252708_signed.exe on your PC put phone in fastboot mode run the RUU on PC and it will flash and update you. After you get that on your phone you will instantly get a message saying you have another OTA update in you status pull down bar, that will update you to 1.28.707.10. You will also need the drivers from HTCdev to run the file, I'm pretty sure.

drvsbsm said:
This is what I did put ruu_endeavor_u_ics_40_htc_asia_wwe_1.26.707.4_radio_1.1204.90.13_release_252708_signed.exe on your PC put phone in fastboot mode run the RUU on PC and it will flash and update you. After you get that on your phone you will instantly get a message saying you have another OTA update in you status pull down bar, that will update you to 1.28.707.10. You will also need the drivers from HTCdev to run the file, I'm pretty sure.
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Why use the 1.26 RUU when the 1.28 one is available? Makes no sense...

Need to know...

just wanted to ask those in the know, if my friend has an htc evo, which has probably the worst reception ever, can i change her modem, without rooting the phone? or is there anything else i can do to fix her horrible reception? thanks in advance.

what does it take to get an answer in this forum? are you telling me nobody in this entire forum of the evo, knows anything about the evo? really?

It takes providing some details. The Supersonic has some of the best reception of any device I've owned, so something doesn't sound right.
Also I don't know what you mean by "change her modem." Sounds like a non-HTC thing.

Captain_Throwback said:
It takes providing some details. The Supersonic has some of the best reception of any device I've owned, so something doesn't sound right.
Also I don't know what you mean by "change her modem." Sounds like a non-HTC thing.
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i have a galaxy s4, and i can change my modem to one of 50 different ones. of course my s4 is rooted and i use a custom rom. but i know very little about the evo. it 's my friends phone. and she can't get through a single call without the call being dropped. so, i thought perhaps htc has almost as many options as a galaxy, and i could choose a different modem to flash. but i guess the htc family is just stuck with what you have. is this true?

stevae said:
i have a galaxy s4, and i can change my modem to one of 50 different ones. of course my s4 is rooted and i use a custom rom. but i know very little about the evo. it 's my friends phone. and she can't get through a single call without the call being dropped. so, i thought perhaps htc has almost as many options as a galaxy, and i could choose a different modem to flash. but i guess the htc family is just stuck with what you have. is this true?
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It's typically best to be on the lastest firmware package for HTC devices. Without having more information about what the device is running and whether it's even up to date, it's really difficult to be able to offer solutions.

Captain_Throwback said:
It's typically best to be on the lastest firmware package for HTC devices. Without having more information about what the device is running and whether it's even up to date, it's really difficult to be able to offer solutions.
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Ok. So i checked for a firmware update, and there wasn't one. Then i checked for other updates, and there were none. But her phone is on Android 4.1.1. Now I know how to update A Samsung, but not a HTC. So is there anything special to bring her phone up to at least 4.3, or even 4.4?

stevae said:
Ok. So i checked for a firmware update, and there wasn't one. Then i checked for other updates, and there were none. But her phone is on Android 4.1.1. Now I know how to update A Samsung, but not a HTC. So is there anything special to bring her phone up to at least 4.3, or even 4.4?
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What device does she have? The EVO 4G only has an official ROM going up to Android 2.3.5 (Gingerbread).
I think we definitely need more information on the device to be sure how to proceed.

Captain_Throwback said:
What device does she have? The EVO 4G only has an official ROM going up to Android 2.3.5 (Gingerbread).
I think we definitely need more information on the device to be sure how to proceed.
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I hope this helps, but if it doesn't please let me know what information you need.
this thing is wierd. i am in the "phone identity" folder now, and this is what it lists:
Phone name:
EVO
Model number:
EVO
IMEI:
990000663169284
Device serial number:
HT25PS4.....
MEID:
6498466464984684
UICC ID:
bunch of numbers........
IMSI:
bunch of numbers......
Hardware:
0003
Processor:
dual core
Memory:
1gb
Android: 4.1.1
HTC Sense version:
4+
software version:
3.17.651.4 710RD
HTC ext.:
Sense 45_3
Kernel version:
3.4.10
baseband:
1.13.11.0830
build number:
3.17.651.4 CL250500
PS: the box says htc EVO 4G LTE

stevae said:
I hope this helps, but if it doesn't please let me know what information you need.
this thing is wierd. i am in the "phone identity" folder now, and this is what it lists:
Phone name:
EVO
Model number:
EVO
IMEI:
990000663169284
Device serial number:
HT25PS4.....
MEID:
6498466464984684
UICC ID:
bunch of numbers........
IMSI:
bunch of numbers......
Hardware:
0003
Processor:
dual core
Memory:
1gb
Android: 4.1.1
HTC Sense version:
4+
software version:
3.17.651.4 710RD
HTC ext.:
Sense 45_3
Kernel version:
3.4.10
baseband:
1.13.11.0830
build number:
3.17.651.4 CL250500
PS: the box says htc EVO 4G LTE
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That means you're in the wrong forum .
P. S. Check out "NOTE 2" at the bottom of this post. It's the Android 4.3 update for the device. It includes updated firmware so it might help with the reception issues.
One thing to try also is to make sure the back cover (that covers where the SD card is inserted) is on completely and tightly, and none of the prongs are bent or broken. That will also affect reception.

Captain_Throwback said:
That means you're in the wrong forum .
P. S. Check out "NOTE 2" at the bottom of this post. It's the Android 4.3 update for the device. It includes updated firmware so it might help with the reception issues.
One thing to try also is to make sure the back cover (that covers where the SD card is inserted) is on completely and tightly, and none of the prongs are bent or broken. That will also affect reception.
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ok. i will check it out. thanks so much.
update: the download link for the android 4.3 update does not work. i get a 404 directory not there, error message. is there another one you know of. i am so unknowledgeable about this phone, i just don't want to screw it up by thinking i have the right dl, when i might not. so would rather defer to someone who knows about these phones, such as yourself. thanks.
also, the "note 2" link, shouldn't be used until the 4.3 update, or does it matter?

stevae said:
ok. i will check it out. thanks so much.
update: the download link for the android 4.3 update does not work. i get a 404 directory not there, error message. is there another one you know of. i am so unknowledgeable about this phone, i just don't want to screw it up by thinking i have the right dl, when i might not. so would rather defer to someone who knows about these phones, such as yourself. thanks.
also, the "note 2" link, shouldn't be used until the 4.3 update, or does it matter?
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That link IS the update. That's the one I said to use.

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That link IS the update. That's the one I said to use.
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OK. so one last question. how do i boot this thing into recovery, or how do these phones add an update like this? just want to make sure i do it right.

stevae said:
OK. so one last question. how do i boot this thing into recovery, or how do these phones add an update like this? just want to make sure i do it right.
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Install HTC Sync Manager on the PC, make sure USB Debugging is enabled, and run the RUU.exe as administrator. If you're using a Windows 8.1 PC, there will likely be issues, and you'll have to use an alternative method which will be more complex.

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Install HTC Sync Manager on the PC, make sure USB Debugging is enabled, and run the RUU.exe as administrator. If you're using a Windows 8.1 PC, there will likely be issues, and you'll have to use an alternative method which will be more complex.
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ok, i have updated the phone, but have just one last question. her computer already had the htc update manager on it. and i copied all of her folders from her phone to her computer before i updated it. so can you tell me which folder holds her phone contacts and numbers?

stevae said:
ok, i have updated the phone, but have just one last question. her computer already had the htc update manager on it. and i copied all of her folders from her phone to her computer before i updated it. so can you tell me which folder holds her phone contacts and numbers?
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That stuff should be backed up to the Google account, or an Exchange account if applicable. I've never used the HTC software so I know nothing about how it works.

Is it still possible to generate a Revolutionary s-off beta key?

Hello, I'm interested in rooting my Incredible 2, and every guide I've read says to downgrade to 2.3.3, then use Revolutionary to obtain s-off. Well I found Revolutionary via the wayback machine, but I'm unable to generate a beta key using my serial number since the site is gone.
So I was wondering, is there a way to generate a key to use Revolutionary, or alternatively, is there a different way to get s-off. Is it too late for me to root?
Thanks

I used the official HTC page to unlock BL and get root, but no SOFF. I dont believe you can still use revolutionary.

ethanchow said:
I used the official HTC page to unlock BL and get root, but no SOFF. I dont believe you can still use revolutionary.
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If I were to root like you did, would it keep the ROM even after a reboot? My understanding was you need s-off to actually root it. I was hoping there may be some other way to get S-off

TheAfikoman said:
If I were to root like you did, would it keep the ROM even after a reboot? My understanding was you need s-off to actually root it. I was hoping there may be some other way to get S-off
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Yes the ROM would stay but you need to flash boot.img from fast boot

The revolutionary website can now be found here: http://rev.alpharev.nl/
The beta key will show up once you click one of the download buttons. Lucky you, I was given a Droid Incredible 2 to work on so I've been looking for this kind of stuff the past few days.

tomiga said:
The beta key will show up once you click one of the download buttons. Lucky you, I was given a Droid Incredible 2 to work on so I've been looking for this kind of stuff the past few days.
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I saw the new site but it said "AlphaRev 1.8 is now deprecated software. If at all possible, use Revolutionary instead." And then the link was to the old site.
Mind walking me through exactly what link gets me to the key?
Thanks

TheAfikoman said:
I saw the new site but it said "AlphaRev 1.8 is now deprecated software. If at all possible, use Revolutionary instead." And then the link was to the old site.
Mind walking me through exactly what link gets me to the key?
Thanks
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On rev.alpharev.nl, click either "Download for Linux" or "Download for Windows". It'll come up with a form. Fill it out, hit Generate key and you'll get your key.

tomiga said:
click either "Download for Linux" or "Download for Windows". It'll come up with a form. Fill it out, hit Generate key and you'll get your key.
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Are you using a cached version of the page? I don't see those options (saw them using the archived version of the site but the key wasnt operational)
The screenshot I took is what I see when I visit that site.

If I gave you my serial # could you generate the key for me?

TheAfikoman said:
Are you using a cached version of the page? I don't see those options (saw them using the archived version of the site but the key wasnt operational)
The screenshot I took is what I see when I visit that site.
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You're going to alpharev.nl, not rev.alpharev.nl. The proper website looks like this:
If you want though, I guess you can throw me your serial number (PM it to me), but the site does work and you should be able to do it yourself...

I've got no idea what's going on. I get the same site no matter what... strange. I PMed you, if it works, great!

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Are you using a cached version of the page? I don't see those options (saw them using the archived version of the site but the key wasnt operational)
The screenshot I took is what I see when I visit that site.
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On my nexus 7 latest stock rom and chrome I see the correct page, but on my win8 pc with chrome I see what you are seeing. You may want to try visiting the page from a mobile device
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TheAfikoman said:
Are you using a cached version of the page? I don't see those options (saw them using the archived version of the site but the key wasnt operational)
The screenshot I took is what I see when I visit that site.
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It seems to only work on linux machines, including androids. I tried it with chrome on win8.1 and ie on win8.1 and it showed the alpharev page. On stock 6.0.1 android chrome and FF ubuntu it shows the new revolutionary page.

It's sort of disturbing to me, since I have never encountered this issue of being unable to access a certain branch of a site before. I even tried looking up DNS suffix devolution to see if I could fix the issue and view the site correctly. Alas I was not able, no matter my browser, to see that specific page on my desktop.
Here's the thing though, I tried the page on my Incredible 2, same result, could not get to the correct page. So that made me think it had something to do with my router, or maybe even ISP? I used a different wifi on my phone, and was able to view the correct page for the first time. I would love to get to the bottom of this.

How to get most up to date Rom on my Phone?

Hello,
Got an HTC one M9 today. Since it has the stock rom on it, I wanted to go directly to the current version and flash all the old data out (if thats possible). So I visited the HTC-Support ROM download page which's link I cant post because I'm a too new user to this board.
There, I downloaded this (Under the "Unlocked/Developer" category): "HTC One M9 4.23.617.1".
When I start this, it recognizes my phone right and has a button "Update" for me, where I'm already wondering why is that. I want to flash my Phone with the current version, why should I bother updating anything? If you can point me where I could rather get the tools and instructions to do that (flashing with current version), I would be grateful.
However I tried Updating, and after a quick reboot the Updateprogram tells me "Error 132: Signature-Error".
It says I should get the right Update-Utility and try again. How is that not the right one?
Please help.
Greetings,
Ravior

RaviorMetal said:
Hello,
Got an HTC one M9 today. Since it has the stock rom on it, I wanted to go directly to the current version and flash all the old data out (if thats possible). So I visited the HTC-Support ROM download page which's link I cant post because I'm a too new user to this board.
There, I downloaded this (Under the "Unlocked/Developer" category): "HTC One M9 4.23.617.1".
When I start this, it recognizes my phone right and has a button "Update" for me, where I'm already wondering why is that. I want to flash my Phone with the current version, why should I bother updating anything? If you can point me where I could rather get the tools and instructions to do that (flashing with current version), I would be grateful.
However I tried Updating, and after a quick reboot the Updateprogram tells me "Error 132: Signature-Error".
It says I should get the right Update-Utility and try again. How is that not the right one?
Please help.
Greetings,
Ravior
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Check out the readme thread, specifically the section on RUUs.
As for doing OTA updates versus RUU, the advantage of OTA updates is that your phone settings and data are preserved. RUU installs wipe and reset your phone to factory default.

computerslayer said:
Check out the readme thread, specifically the section on RUUs.
As for doing OTA updates versus RUU, the advantage of OTA updates is that your phone settings and data are preserved. RUU installs wipe and reset your phone to factory default.
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Thank you for pointing me there. After going through much of the information stated there (In the readme thread) I was able to combine the things that happened and why they did so.
In my case, I was trying to use a RUU for 4.x versions on a phone with 3.x installed, which simply isnt supported.
So this means I have to update all the way to 4.x to install the most up to date ruu and then I can flash the device on that version.
I hope they have good reason for not letting us simply flash the current version, since its very troublesome to update all the way through but well...
Thank you!

RaviorMetal said:
I hope they have good reason for not letting us simply flash the current version, since its very troublesome to update all the way through but well...
Thank you!
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its called "security".. But to hell with that eh!..
Beamed in by telepathy.

shivadow said:
its called "security".. But to hell with that eh!..
Beamed in by telepathy.
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Please tell me about the security aspects of the mechanic that forces you to update step by step rather than installing full images of the current version. Just look at computer operating systems. Do you always install f.e. Windows XP and then upgrade through vista and windows 7 to windows 10?

RaviorMetal said:
Please tell me about the security aspects of the mechanic that forces you to update step by step rather than installing full images of the current version. Just look at computer operating systems. Do you always install f.e. Windows XP and then upgrade through vista and windows 7 to windows 10?
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Well, since you didn't install anything but bought the phone with a pre-installed OS that metaphora doesn't suit at all. Compare it with a computer that you buy and that has windows 8 pre-installed. Are you able to directly install the latest windows 10 version with all current KB-updates installed? No, you aren't. You need to install windows 10 and then to install all missing KBs via the windows update function.
Since you seem to like them, here's another metaphora: Do you keep your flat's/house's lock and keys if you know that thiefs own a copy of the key? No, you probably change the lock and the key. That's what HTC did with the encryption keys.
And no one said that you need to flash every OTA up to the latest firmware of your SKU. Depending on your current firmware, you might be able to directly install the needed 4.x OTA and then you can flash a 4.x RUU (which might not even be needed since not every SKU received more than one 4.x firmware iteration, yet). And even if you aren't on the latest 3.x firmware for your SKU you only need to flash one RUU more (the one for the latest 3.x firmware of your SKU). All in all the whole flashing/installing won't take longer than one hour. A RUU gets flashed within less than 5 minutes. And the longest OTA installation that I faced with the M9 took half an hour and that was the update from Android L to Android M.
You see, there is absolutely no reason to get het up that much. So please, calm down a little. XDA isn't the place for public rants. That's what you can use facebook, twitter, G+ or reddit for.
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Well, since you didn't install anything but bought the phone with a pre-installed OS that metaphora doesn't suit at all. Compare it with a computer that you buy and that has windows 8 pre-installed. Are you able to directly install the latest windows 10 version with all current KB-updates installed? No, you aren't. You need to install windows 10 and then to install all missing KBs via the windows update function.
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Sorry, but I dont think that smartphones are that different from pcs. I think being forced to install as many tools and getting to know all the matter shouldnt be that much; it could be much easier. I think most of the stuff is just that complicated because this way its better to make money than having it in a simple and easy way, like one ROM for every country in the world. For example, I can easily create my custom windows 7 installation media with any updates and additions I would like and install it on every pc in the world thats not too old.
You see, there is absolutely no reason to get het up that much. So please, calm down a little. XDA isn't the place for public rants. That's what you can use facebook, twitter, G+ or reddit for.
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Sorry I was just mumbling that, I didnt want to seem het up. Also, I dont use Facebook and such.
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And now I would like to ask you me how you type such long texts on your smartphone

Android/Linux is not Windows. If you believe it or not, you can't compare a PC with a smartphone.
And there are custom made firmware packs for this phone, as well.
In addition, HTC won't read what you're writing here so complaining about their decisions on xda is completely useless. If you still think that it's necessary then do so on one of the websites I mentioned in my last post.
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