Anyone confirm if the receiver is built into the phone, as opposed to being built into the wired stereo headphones?
It's in the headphones, as usual.
Don't think that's right. Usually, the radio is built into the phone but you need headphones connected - not necessarily the supplied headphones - for the radio to work. That's certainly how it was with my HD2. Otherwise, it means you could not use your own headset.
The headset cable usually acts as the antenna.
Usually these type of devices (phones/mp3 players etc...) have the receiver in the device but they use the headphones as the antenna so if you want to get any signal you need some (Any) headphones connected.
shawon007 said:
Anyone confirm if the receiver is built into the phone, as opposed to being built into the wired stereo headphones?
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I have read it somewhere, .. I confirm that the radio receiver is IN the headset, not inside the phone!
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How ...?
can ANY headphone be used as an antenna?? even ones I bought from ebay??
irkan said:
I have read it somewhere, .. I confirm that the radio receiver is IN the headset, not inside the phone!
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Maybe you should really think before writing though
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Ofcourse the reciever is in the phone and yes you can use any headset.
The headset purely acts as an antenna.
There are reports that non OEM headsets are a bit hit and miss. Some work, some don't.
Not a feature I will get to use as I have bluetooth headphones
shawon007,
Question - have you tried siwtching your phone off & back on? Your thread made me realise I hadn't tried out the radio on my desire, or the headphone jack for that matter....
Imagine my surprise when I tried the radio with normal headphones and the radio didn't work ... so I tried the official headphones, and they didn't work either, whether for radio or even playing music .... so I grumped about it and figured the jack was faulty. Then I tried powering the phone off & back on (early firmware) and bingo, the radio works.
Oh and standard headphones work just fine too.
Dougie
RDS is missing.. too bad because it was working well on the Tattoo
I'm sure some clever person might be able add it!
What i'd like to know is if it would be possible to add a radio record button
a bit like the ipod nano's
bewA said:
I'm sure some clever person might be able add it!
What i'd like to know is if it would be possible to add a radio record button
a bit like the ipod nano's
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Hi.
This is my first post on this forum. I'm happy to find so many skilled guys on smartphones and android, specifically (though I've never had smartphone development experiences yet ).
I'm very seriously thinking about buying a HTC Desire (I think it's gorgeous) but the missing RDS feature is quite annoying to me.
Maybe someone of you could tell me if the radio chipset is capable of handling RDS, and so a rooted firmware will fix the problem?
Thanks.
shawon007 said:
How ...?
can ANY headphone be used as an antenna?? even ones I bought from ebay??
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My iPod ones work fine...
My Sennheiser earphones do work with the FM Radio, but the reception is quite poor unfortunately
The HTC ones supplied work perfectly, reception is great, shame about the quality of the earphones themselves though.
Cronnie said:
My Sennheiser earphones do work with the FM Radio, but the reception is quite poor unfortunately
The HTC ones supplied work perfectly, reception is great, shame about the quality of the earphones themselves though.
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Maybe armored cable on good earphones don't make a good antenna :/
PS : don't know if "armored" is the correct word in english I want to say "a cable with much protection over electric fields".
Kiiv said:
Maybe armored cable on good earphones don't make a good antenna :/
PS : don't know if "armored" is the correct word in english I want to say "a cable with much protection over electric fields".
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No worries, I know what you mean
I rarely use the radio anyway (got around 10GB of music and videos to keep me occupied), so I guess I will be sticking to my Sennheiser earphones.
Has anyone else had any issues with the radio? When I was using it the other day it completely freaked out and locked up my phone.
Oh and when I was first setting it up and went to set presets it knew the names for some of the stations already, how is it doing that without RDS?
Does it also have FM transmitter?
MoxFulder_CH said:
RDS is missing.. too bad because it was working well on the Tattoo
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Are you sure? After i tuned to several stations, it's picked up the names fine. BBC Radio 1 is displayed as Radio 1, BBC Radio 2 is shown as BBC R2
pascanu said:
Does it also have FM transmitter?
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No it can't transmit.
Related
Hi at all!
First, sorry for my bad english.
I have a software solution to use the FM Radio without Headset, i know that in the headset is the antenna!
You must change a value in the Registry under:
HKLM/System/State/Hardware/ and now you must chance the Headset value to 1.
When you plug the headset in the device is change the Value automatic to one. When ist not plugged than is 0.
But without antenna i can´t find radioprogramms :-(
Antenna
How about the usb charger cable able to find radioprogramms then? Could be usefull in combination with gps using TMC.
Perjan said:
How about the usb charger cable able to find radioprogramms then? Could be usefull in combination with gps using TMC.
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I tryed that, but with no success, can't find any stations.
PK
Looks like we're getting closer. Good work, dodo-dk.
I can't get any stations either and it doesn't look like you can specify a station if it doesn't scan and identify it. Hmmm. Also, it doesn't look like the registry hack stays after a soft reset either.
db
Capture a photo to indicate that it can open the Radio after change the registry as describe at first post. However, the radio cannot detect any signal
That is possible, if you attaches a thin wire(ca.0.5M) to pin 7 ANTENA.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284512
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Capture a photo to indicate that it can open the Radio after change the registry as describe at first post. However, the radio cannot detect any signal
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Now all we need is someone to hack together an external antenna that wont disable the internal speaker.
If anyone manages it don't forget to post about it here.
With pictures
Ahqar said:
Now all we need is someone to hack together an external antenna that wont disable the internal speaker.
If anyone manages it don't forget to post about it here.
With pictures
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As for the Atom/6828, the external speaker can still be powered on with the earphones plugged in. This feature is only available to the radio application.
Does this HTC device have this?
MasK said:
As for the Atom/6828, the external speaker can still be powered on with the earphones plugged in. This feature is only available to the radio application.
Does this HTC device have this?
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Yes it does. Someties you can even have both
Hello!
I'm a bit confused. How does TCM work when the FM device only recognizes stations or transmisions when earphones are pluged in? When in navigation, with TCM capable software, you have to plug in the earphones so you can use TCM? That sound a bit strange to me. Can someone provide a clarification please.
...bye DonQ
DonQuichotte said:
Hello!
I'm a bit confused. How does TCM work when the FM device only recognizes stations or transmisions when earphones are pluged in? When in navigation, with TCM capable software, you have to plug in the earphones so you can use TCM? That sound a bit strange to me. Can someone provide a clarification please.
...bye DonQ
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TMC is encoded in rds, since the artemis is able to use RDS when using the antenna in theory it should be able to translate the tmc out of the RDS. Thus this is merely a software tweak. Its up to us to couple all the loose strings...
Thanks, but that wasn't my question? I know how TCM works, but as stated in a post above, the artemis can tune in to a radio station only with pluged-in earphones. Thus I count one thing to another and come to this conclusion: no pluged-in earphones = no radio station = no RDS = no TCM!? If that's the case the whole TMC feature in artemis is just a joke.
So is TCM working with the bare artemis (none attached wires of any kind)?
...bye DonQ
Here's my question regarding this radio issue for all you electrical engineers out there:
Would it be possible to construct a combo mini-usb radio antenna and audio adapter that would take the place of the earphones as the antenna yet be small enough not to stick out much more than the current 3.5mm headphone adapter that is available on Expansys?
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=138247
That way you could enable the radio and other functions and still use your good headphones. Or, if the audio adapter and antenna couldn't be combined, with a "mini usb radio antenna", you could at least use A2DP with bluetooth headphones to listen to the radio.
Just food for thought...what do you think?
There is a easier way than messing around with pins and wire...
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=140831
But I'm not sure if TMC will work with this...
Greets, Flocky
The FM radio does not work with either the audio adapter or the audio/power splitter. I have both and just get the message to plug in the earphones that came with it.
db
dcbehan said:
The FM radio does not work with either the audio adapter or the audio/power splitter. I have both and just get the message to plug in the earphones that came with it.
db
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Change the Registry (Post #1 here), and select output in Program Menu->Output "Headset"...
But Radio need Antena!
That was exactly my point in my previous post! We all know that the current adapters will allow you to CONNECT a 3.5mm headset to the P3300, the problem is the lack of an antenna in standard headphones to make the radio work. It would seem to me that a mini usb to 3.5 adapter with a BUILT-IN radio antenna would solve this problem.
Now if only I had the capital and the electronic knowledge to invent it!
the fm radio band is a 98 cm band so you need at least 50 cm cable to have a decent signal. With other words..if you cut the antenne (cable for a mobile phone or pda) you loose the signal. Nothing more or nothing less than this.
Better would be a small cable you could run in and out your phone automaticly (by hand pulling or something) when you're in need of the radio.
Btw sorry for my bad english
kasperke said:
the fm radio band is a 98 cm band so you need at least 50 cm cable to have a decent signal. With other words..if you cut the antenne (cable for a mobile phone or pda) you loose the signal. Nothing more or nothing less than this.
Better would be a small cable you could run in and out your phone automaticly (by hand pulling or something) when you're in need of the radio.
Btw sorry for my bad english
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Just a small correction: The FM radio band is 3m or 300 cm wavelength. So the best antennalength would be a quarter wave which equals 75 cm
Stal-Ker said:
Change the Registry (Post #1 here), and select output in Program Menu->Output "Headset"...
But Radio need Antena!
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This is a great solution, but you cannot derive the sound to an a2dp headsets, isn't it?
hI..
I have modified the original stereo ear phone and the sounds is much better quality than original ear phone.
Just need to invest a good stereo earphone and at the same time u still can use the original stereo earphone functionality... to pick up calls etc.
Can leave my ipod at home now.
How did you modify this?
I would love to modify mine. Please explain .
What do I need in hardware ?
Tools
And Know how?
I too have modified headphones. Now I can connect any.
AD10 said:
How did you modify this?
I would love to modify mine. Please explain .
What do I need in hardware ?
Tools
And Know how?
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Yeah! Did you open the grey box, or did you "cut and past" the wires after the grey box?
PK
paalkr said:
Yeah! Did you open the grey box, or did you "cut and past" the wires after the grey box?
PK
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I've opened it its easy. Solder points are so obvious. Like a walk in the park..
Photo is a bit fuzzy, Long live the artemis camera!
what do you guys think of this....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290072099484&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:UK:1
I emailed the seller to ask if radio would work and he replied that it would (don't necessarily believe him though).
how to i open the case?
this will not work....the usb is mean for Motorola phone...and for Artemis...u can't plug in the whole usb adapter...
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what do you guys think of this....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290072099484&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:UK:1
I emailed the seller to ask if radio would work and he replied that it would (don't necessarily believe him though).
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simontee said:
this will not work....the usb is mean for Motorola phone...and for Artemis...u can't plug in the whole usb adapter...
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So this...
Compatible with:
1. MDA COMPACT 3, HTC P3300, O2 ORBIT, DOPOD P800W, ORANGE M650, HTC ARTEMIS 160
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means the seller is lying?
There are 2 types of mini-USB standards I know of. One is the standard motorola one. The other is enhanced mini-USB JUST for HTC devices.
If this guy mentioned a whole list of HTC devices and picture a P3300 with it, I pretty much think that it's the real deal.
If it works for audio, radio shouldn't be a prob
DocMAX said:
how to i open the case?
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Put your nails between the plasic covers on the sides where the cabels come in and out. It should release pretty easy.
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I emailed the seller to ask if radio would work and he replied that it would (don't necessarily believe him though).
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I might work for FM but it looks to me like it would work badly. Since the wire serves as an antenna if the extention extends the antenna length at best you'd only be able to pick up the lowest frequencies.
really? i've never found the length of the antenna caused problems for fm reception, i used to make my own so i could get better pirate radio station reception. I used to get a long piece of electrical wire, attach it to the (broken) aerial on the radio and hang it out of the window - worked every time
ezman said:
really? i've never found the length of the antenna caused problems for fm reception, i used to make my own so i could get better pirate radio station reception. I used to get a long piece of electrical wire, attach it to the (broken) aerial on the radio and hang it out of the window - worked every time
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That's great! I've had to form a make-shift car radio antenna myself because some lovely person felt the need to break off the one attached. With trial-and-error 2 clothes hangers worked just fine. However antenna lenth is very important in fm reception because fm is a part of the electromagnetic spectrum that arrives in th form of a wave and: wavelength=light speed/frequency. The fm spectrum is 88MHz to 108MHz. As it turns out fm is about 3 meters in length so the optimal antenna to pick that up is 1/4 of the wave or about 75cm.
wow i haven't seen a clothes hangar aerial in ages i'm sure i used to see them all the time!
Anyway, I ordered one of these adapters and will gladly report back the results if the thing ever turns up
Hi well i got my adapter...as i promised above, here's my feedback....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290072099600
It's exactly as described, I can get FM radio, of course you can just plug in the adapter and no headphones to use the loudspeaker.
It also has a mic and a button to answer calls. The L shaped USB input is a great design compared with those sticky outy ones. Plus the length allows me to use my ex71 headphones without the really long attachment. Overall very happy Ordered last Wednesday, got it today.
Now to transfer music to that damn internal microsd
Edit: Evaluator was right, the FM reception has suffered. Though I can still get FM reception in strong areas, it's nowhere near as good as with the supplied headset. Oh well...It's still great for using as an mp3 player.
I have also purchased this little adapter and it works a treat with my Sony earphones. Radio signal is excellent and sound is phenominal compared to the standard headset.
Phone works properly with the call pickup button and the microphone allows your caller to hear you clearly.
A worthwhile purchase for £9.99 inc postage.
I have the Sony HBH-DS970 bluetooth headphones and can't sync it with my Dash. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? I also have the XDA mini and lost the program to sync that as well. Can anyone help?
everyangle808 said:
I have the Sony HBH-DS970 bluetooth headphones and can't sync it with my Dash. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? I also have the XDA mini and lost the program to sync that as well. Can anyone help?
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Without knowing more info (by syncing, do you mean pairing?) I am sorry I can't help much however I can tell you that my DS970s pair with my Dash just fine. They actually make a fine pair for stereo listening.
monakh said:
...They actually make a fine pair for stereo listening.
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...if you like AM Radio sound. I returned mine, the sound quality was awful, nowhere near that of cabled headphones. And speaking of cables, the DS970 headset has a lot of them, to the point of not being much different than using regular ones. During the short time I used them, a lot of it was spent untangling them
Ditto, except I didn't return mine.
I just regret everytime I use them.
AM Radio? Your AM radio is THAT BAD?
-John
I like mine
Of course the sound is not as great as giant cans strapped to your head. For what they are, I am satisfied.
J
AM radio was because you probably left them in headset mode instead of stereo bluetooth. PEBCAC
Nope... I tried a number of things, including a registry entry I found that was supposed to improve stereo bluetooth performance. None of it worked. With all those wires it seemed rather pointless to use them. Glad you like them -- I imagine anyone who thinks they sound OK might want the go to their local Costco on free-hearing-test day
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AM radio was because you probably left them in headset mode instead of stereo bluetooth. PEBCAC
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I cant launch the radio fm with my BT headset..it needs something in the jack input....
is the radio fm receptor in the stock headet?
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partne...radio...In+the+phone+or+the+headset&sa=Search
i cant find anything for the desire
I believe the FM receiver uses the attached accessory as an antenna. But I could be wrong.
You are correct, it's how every phone that used FM radio I've ever owned worked.
You didnt look very hard then, the 4th search result reads HTC Desire FM Radio.. [Archive] - xda-developers
And in it it states.
Harroguk said:
Usually these type of devices (phones/mp3 players etc...) have the receiver in the device but they use the headphones as the antenna so if you want to get any signal you need some (Any) headphones connected.
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This is why people get annoyed, same old questions being asked over and over by people who "Searched Everywhere"
its not any headphone its htc branded one aint it?
anyway, i have no way to use my BT headset then for the radio???
totorip said:
its not any headphone its htc branded one aint it?
anyway, i have no way to use my BT headset then for the radio???
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It is "Any" headphones, signal quality is related to shielded/unshielded cable more than anything.
totorip said:
its not any headphone its htc branded one aint it?
anyway, i have no way to use my BT headset then for the radio???
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you may get *some* signal. but it would be quite crackly id imagine.. Im not sure if the desire will even let you go FM without the jack plugged in, as im still waiting for my device to arrive.
and any headphone should work.
ok
i hope some hack to fake a connected headset
totorip said:
ok
i hope some hack to fake a connected headset
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There is no point "Fake" connecting a headset, YOU NEED THE HEADSET AS AN ANTENNA.
More Specifically, WIRES, not just a set of Headphones. You need a Wired Connection between headset and handset
KYI
Guys, this has been done to death in just about every forum for every device which has an FM radio in it.
YOU MUST HAVE A WIRED HEADSET IN IT TO GET SIGNAL.
even if you hack it to route sound through bluetooth instead of the wires, you will still have to have the wires plugged in to get any signal, so it is a monumental waste of time, even if you do manage to do it.
hello,
i see that there are plenty of fm transmitter for the iPhone! and not even one that connects to micro-usb port...
have i missed something?
btw, is there an fm transmitter with bt so i cant connect trough bt, with good quality?
thanks
If you googled it and you don't see any then probably not. Maybe the manufactures don't think android is worth investing in, the same reason there are way more variety of cases for iPhone than android. Or maybe because there are so many different android phone manufacturers with their own android framework like TW for example. Just guessing though...
Sent from my GT-I9100m while on the toilet
Search on Ebay
Search on ebay, there are a lot of fm transmiters. But none works with the Micro USB because very few phones have audio out in the micro usb (its only 5 pins).
i have tried 2 bluetooth and fm transmiter for iphone and 3 for android and dont have good sound while transmit for blueetooh, have lost of quality. Its better for wire.
Sorry for my English. I speak spanish.
I don't know you situation, but cassette adapter is not an option to you? Personally I'm using one to connect my phone and my car stereo. It works pretty well, although the 4th adapter worked with my head unit.
S0und_ said:
I don't know you situation, but cassette adapter is not an option to you? Personally I'm using one to connect my phone and my car stereo. It works pretty well, although the 4th adapter worked with my head unit.
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it is an option,
but i want to use pandora like app... so i don't need to make a playlist. just connect the phone and listening from the web.
Take a look here
http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/k100/
It´s a BT handsfree wich also have an FM transmitter. I´ve buyed one on amazon a few months ago, for less than half the price served on the official website.
You can pair the phone through BT and then (optionally) send the audio to your FM radio car. Also you can choose in your phone wich audio route (calls, media or both).
Good design and audio quality is good in my opinion. Just one complaint: depending on the city/zone you live, FM frequencies may be oversaturated and this can make noise or static interferences.