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What is the best gps navigator for touch HD?

So I have always used TT6 on all my htc devices but I wont work on my touch hd. Tried to buy TT7 from tomtom.com and they told me it's not for sale in the US. I am looking for something that has directions and live traffic update that works here in the US. Any input would be great.

Here's a similar thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491958&highlight=navigation

funk1980 said:
Here's a similar thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491958&highlight=navigation
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Thanks for the link. Alot of those users are outside of US. It sucks to have to pay another $100 for another gps software.

I really like the Garmin software. It integrates with Google Maps so you can search for POI's within Garmin (using updated POI information from Google Maps) and it pulls them into the Garmin software. I used TT6/TT7 for years until I got this.

I don't know how is is in the US, but if you want TMC, I recommend Igo8. With this navigator you can use live traffic information with TMC. (If you want more information look for TMC in this forum).
But like I said I don't know how it is in the US (I don't know if you use TMC there)

I like that. Will look for this software.
cRaCKwHoRe said:
I really like the Garmin software. It integrates with Google Maps so you can search for POI's within Garmin (using updated POI information from Google Maps) and it pulls them into the Garmin software. I used TT6/TT7 for years until I got this.
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cRaCKwHoRe said:
I really like the Garmin software. It integrates with Google Maps so you can search for POI's within Garmin (using updated POI information from Google Maps) and it pulls them into the Garmin software. I used TT6/TT7 for years until I got this.
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Are you referring to Garmin Mobile XT? I was put off that since you can't transfer it to a larger memory card. You're stuck with the one it comes on which is a tad inconvenient.

I've tried TT7, IGO8 and NDrive, of these 3, IGO8 is a hands down performer. Not only does it look nice with its 3D scenery, but the refresh rate of IGO8 graphics is way way way better than TT7.
NDrive has a good refresh rate, but unfortunately it makes navigation mistakes and offers little customization, therefore I don't feel it is really ready for prime time yet.
Garmin might be good, I haven't tried it.

But IGO 8 lags so much on the Touch HD.. especially with the 3d buildings turned on...

R4ym0nd said:
I don't know how is is in the US, but if you want TMC, I recommend Igo8. With this navigator you can use live traffic information with TMC. (If you want more information look for TMC in this forum).
But like I said I don't know how it is in the US (I don't know if you use TMC there)
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I tried to search TMC but I guess it's not enough letters... anything else I can search, or maybe you have a link?
Thanks.

AndyCr15 said:
I tried to search TMC but I guess it's not enough letters... anything else I can search, or maybe you have a link?
Thanks.
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Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511838&highlight=beemer
It's still in development, but updated regularly

AndyCr15 said:
I tried to search TMC but I guess it's not enough letters... anything else I can search, or maybe you have a link?
Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630

I'd say, iGO is THE best choice for the touch HD. Integrates just perfectly with WVGA, allows portrait/landscape use modes and various sysfile modifications, delievers very nice graphical performance and great design - with carbon background it looks like a very expensive stand alone GPS device There are different skins for the app, too.
And it works very well with the TMC solution in this forum. It just works. A device like HD, equipped with the powerful GPS hardware deserves powerful software like iGO8.

My choice:
TT7: Very easy to use.
Garmin: Better maps (at least in Lithuania) but GUI is not good.
iGO: This software is usable. I like the way iGO draws pictures. GUI is also convinient.
So I use TT7 for day2day navigation and Garmin - if I travel to places I have never been. Because TT7 might not have the latest maps of that Area.
All of them are tested and works on my Touch HD. Unfortunately I tested not legal versions and can't tell if the legal ones works well.

WeeJockMacFeegle said:
Are you referring to Garmin Mobile XT? I was put off that since you can't transfer it to a larger memory card. You're stuck with the one it comes on which is a tad inconvenient.
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Yes, that is the software. However, you can transfer it if you know how ... meaning "hacking" / cracking / unlocking it.

Maybe the new Version of nDrive (Release Date will bei 23rd May 09) makes a big step forward. Haven't seen any Screenshots yet but hopefully it#ll get even better than it is. Plus: It's the cheapest professional Navi-Software i know.

I use Navigon, until now it's the only one (that i have) that worked great and doesn't have a lag. Navigon works nice on the Touch HD!

Navigon doesn't even start up on my touch.. At least the official version, downloaded from the navigon website doesn't.

I use these; navigon,sygic,iGO8,tomtom7
all with latest western europe map
i like tomtom7 the most because i can hook it up to tomtomhome2 and use mapshare also iGO8 is handy with the tmc working now but i cant get it to work in portraitmode yet

Best Working SatNav for Desire?

Looking for turn by turn directions to replace my TomTom. It seems the only option is CoPilot Live?
Anyone seen a working version of iGO My way for Android? Used to have on WinMo and was pretty good. Their site shows lots of details but nowhere to buy (search on google for 'android iGO' and it's the first listing - I can't post URL's yet).

Navigon, Sygic are also options you might want to look at.
Currently using Sygic, but it does not have support for nordic characters æøå, so it makes address typing kinda stupid.

Also try NDrive -- I really liked it.

Nice - more choices than I realised! Anyone have 1st hand experience of them in the UK, i.e. are the post codes up to date?

pilgrim_uk said:
Nice - more choices than I realised! Anyone have 1st hand experience of them in the UK, i.e. are the post codes up to date?
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I've played with CoPilot and NDrive -- both worked fine and I found postcodes that I needed. However, I only made one or two trips with each app.

....with GPRS Traffic updates?
Is it only Copilot that supports traffic updates over GPRS?
I find these absolutely necessary in the UK, though Copilot 7 on my THD handles rerouting very poorly indeed and puts me off the software. Is it improved in Copilot 8?

I have Sygic Mobile 10 and Copilot 8 on my Deisre. Both work extremely well. Of the two, I refer Sygic, as the interface is much more TomTom -like, (i.e. virtually identical) and therefore extremely user-friendly.

Try downloading the patched google maps and try out Google Maps Navigation before you actually buy any GPS software.

nubbin, please if you can give some reviews:
- Which one is the fastest for getting satellite lock?
- How about re-routing? Which one is better?
- Is there any GPS lag? The map direction is bit behind the actual situation
Thanks.
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I have Sygic Mobile 10 and Copilot 8 on my Deisre. Both work extremely well. Of the two, I refer Sygic, as the interface is much more TomTom -like, (i.e. virtually identical) and therefore extremely user-friendly.
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I'll review them as soon as I've had a chance to play properly - I only got my phone yesterday afternoon!
I'm just trying the GPS lock - I noticed this morning that it didn't get a fix at all on my drive to work, but from my desk at work it hooks up to GPS satellites almost immediately from "warm". and takes about 20 seconds from cold - much better than my Diamond2, and very quick!
The display is superb, and big enough to look like a dedicated SatNav. I haven't got a car cradle at the moment so I haven't been able to safely assess the accuracy and scrolling speed of the maps, but I imagine with a 1Ghz processor it will be very good. I'll let you know. Personally I prefer Sygic for the user interface.

I have tried almost all of the turn-by-turn navigation soft for Android and ended up with buying a cheap PNA with WinCE and installing iGO on it. iGO for Android still is not official and cannot be bought. If there aren’t very higher requirements (just navigate me from point A to B), almost all of them will do the work. But as soon as you want something specific, you’ll find out no one can match anything more than simple navigation, which Google soon will offer for free everywhere. Probably, I would choose CoPilot if it wasn’t so buggy and if ALK support wasn’t so awful. However, despite the fact I don't test it in a real situation (because of the lack of functionality), Navigon looks as quality made soft and I like its Android integration. It has 30 days trial and at least cost nothing trying it.

When will tom tom release an android version?

Thanks all, good info so far - keep it coming! Nubbin, let us know how you get on trying it out, Sygic looks pretty good.
Somone mentioned Google Maps but my understanding was that it didn't offer turn by turn directions in the UK? I was thinking that having the maps stored locally on the device would also help reduce amount of data sent over the air but this may be negligible?

I quite like waze, the spoken instructions seem better than google navigation but perhaps that is because google isn't properly supported yet.

pilgrim_uk said:
Thanks all, good info so far - keep it coming! Nubbin, let us know how you get on trying it out, Sygic looks pretty good.
Somone mentioned Google Maps but my understanding was that it didn't offer turn by turn directions in the UK? I was thinking that having the maps stored locally on the device would also help reduce amount of data sent over the air but this may be negligible?
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There's a patched version somewhere on XDA which allows navigation in the UK/Europe. Search for it, should be in the G1 forum.

iGO on Android
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iGO for Android still is not official and cannot be bought.
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iGO on my THD is by far my favourite SatNav despite it not having Traffic Updates in the UK. I asked the question about iGO My way 8 for Android on PocketGPSWorld a few days ago. MaFt was able to provide an answer. Apparently Navngo (which is a Hungarian company) is only providing "white label" Android software to OEMs, thus Samsung can install it on the Galaxy Spica and probably where it's been lifted from to be made available to the community via illegitimate routes. Though there are other methods of getting software sold to Android owners, as proven by Sygic, PGPSW surmise that their chief reason for not making it available is that Google ban apps in Android Market from East European countries.
I wrote to Navngo but typically didn't get a response (I NEVER do!) and I also wrote to HTC about whether in the absence of their SatNav partner, TomTom, on the Android platform they'd consider providing iGO instead. I did get a timely response from them but it was utterly useless ...a stock reply saying they cannot provide support for this third part application ...DUH!! That wasn't the question I asked!!
Anyhow, reading comments about iGO My way 8 on the N1 it seems that, though it runs, the GUI has only been formatted for the Galaxy Spica's 320x480 resolution and so only appears in the top corner. My recollection is that this was the case on the THD too before the theme developers got hold of it and reformatted it. Not too long later Navngo released it for the THD looking exactly the same as the developers work.
...iGO still doesn't have traffic updates in the UK(*) though - and they wouldn't reply to the email I sent them about that either!
*iGO only accepts traffic updates via RDS-TMC (no GPRS) and RDS-TMC in the UK is an encrypted, OEM subscription only service thus it's only available to TomTom owners and OEM fit in-vehicle SatNavs, and isn't received by HTC's on-board FM radios either so requires an external receiver (i.e. RoyalTek). RDS-TMC is free and freely available in Europe. I daren't suggest to HTC that they provide support for it in future - I don't know what response I'll get!!

pilgrim_uk said:
Nubbin, let us know how you get on trying it out, Sygic looks pretty good.
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Had a bit of a drive with the phone stuck in the cup holder. Used Sygic and CoPilot and both worked extremely well. No visible lag to either, and very nice smooth scrolling of the maps. in fact the little blue pointer was spot on even at higher speeds. Clearly the fast CPU in the Desire works well in making the map refresh. The maps are very clear and easy to read. If anything it works better than a dedicated PNA such as a TomTom.
I really need a proper car cradle now. Any ideas, anyone?

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Thanks for that info! I really didn’t know that iGO does not support TMC in UK and I was regretting about recent PNA buy, because it has not a TMC receiver. Even I considered changing it for that.
Anyway, I have tried “leaked” version on my current device and since it has 320x480 screen there is not a problem with resolution. But actually I weren’t very impressed from iGO for Android. It requires a huge amount of free internal memory and with Qualcomm 512MHz it was very, very sluggish. In addition this is the “My Way” version, which is not so features rich as 8.3.x.
However, iGO for WinCE/WM remains the best Sat Nav solution in my opinion. It's much better than garmin, tom-tom, navigon, ndrive, sygic and all others, in terms of features, customization, speed, interface, reliability, speed cameras alerts and routing. I'm still hoping that they are going to improve the Android version as well, because I prefer not to carry different devices for every single task

Can I use my Co-Pilot Live 8 License from my old HD2 on a Android phone?

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Can I use my Co-Pilot Live 8 License from my old HD2 on a Android phone?
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Another user on the forum said he did exactly that; contact the company and they 'transferred' the license.

Fully Functional Fast Offline GPS Application

Hi,
What's the best SATNAV / GPS app for ANDROID on Kaiser that will work with 240 resolution and 120 DPI?
Free or paid, free preferred

i am use the copilot8 very good for android kaiser

berk_cglr said:
i am use the copilot8 very good for android kaiser
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Copilot live for me too. An alternative is Sygic, but I've never used it.

matt11601 said:
Copilot live for me too. An alternative is Sygic, but I've never used it.
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Sygic works well, also Navigon, although the Navigon app is huuuge and not recommended if you have data on NAND

Navigon is pretty good.

Always been a big fan of trekbuddy, I know it has an android port now, it is a bit more work setting up maps and stuff, but depending on what you use it for, it's pretty good, especially offline, ( and off-road ).
Not sure I'd use it for sat nav, I prefer using it for biking/walking stuff, but it does do a lot of stuff that most gps software miss

I'm really surprised that no utility has been released that allows forced user selected cache'ing of google navigation maps so the app could be used offline- this would be a killer method!
Anyone heard of NDRIVE successfully running on KAISER? I've stumbled across some reviews which claim it is the fastest GPS app,
Also any comments on smallest app size - one that could install to NAND and 1GB SD card?

I am using NAVIGON, which is working very well.

Hi everyone,
I've used Navit for android,even if it's not complete as other software, it's opensource and for me it worked great.
Some poblems to find road names in small town,but it depends on Openstreatmap,not on navit.It's not on the market you have to download from navit web site (just type: navit android on google and you'll find it).
Bye
Sent from my HTC Kaiser using XDA App

Garmin GPS

Hi,
I'm using HTC Desire HD, and I used to use Garmin for gps service in the car.
I really need Garmin Navigation!
In the Andriod phone, I need to buy the GPS navigation service,
First of all, do anyone have the code for buildin HTC GPS code?
BTW, I really need Garmin for Andriod.
Please help

Unfortunately my friend Mui9 we will not see Android version of Garmin any time soon. Although there is an Android version, derived from the partnership between Garmin and Asus, the sw version is tightly locked for these specific Asus devices. And due to this partnership, Garmin is "prisoned" not to sell for other Android phone manufacturers.
Garmin currently only supports BlackBerries, and now iPhone with their new app. Users with Symbian and WM devices can also use old Garmin versions for their phones (unsupported though).
Some popular navigation software for Android (which one is best actually depends on where you live):
1) Navigon
2) Sygic
3) Google Navigation
4) NDrive
5) CoPilot Live
To conclude, I too await for Garmin on my DHD! I believe it is by far the best Nav software out there. I hope Garmin will hear our prayers .
Konstantinos

I have been using CoPilot Live v8.2 on my DHD for a while now, i find it good

bobcatuk said:
I have been using CoPilot Live v8.2 on my DHD for a while now, i find it good
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And i'm using Papago X5 . Still a good apps with 3D building + real pictures at junction. IMO, Papago X5 is better than Garmin

hedayat7 said:
And i'm using Papago X5 . Still a good apps with 3D building + real pictures at junction. IMO, Papago X5 is better than Garmin
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Thanks all for help!
I had used Papago before with my mobile before,
I wouls like to give a try again!
Can you tell me what I need to do to install in my Desire HD?
- How can I download it
- How can I crack it
- Does it have Australia Map?
Seriesly I really need navigation in the car

[Q]the Best navigation for Desire HD

What navigation is the best for Desire HD?
I have IGO8 on my HD2 and i could not ask for a better navigation, i simply LOVE it! tried IGO for Android on my Desire HD, and i almost fell off my chair. WTF is that? not even close to the Windows version
So, what navi is most simular to IGO8 on Desire HD?

I use Sygic Aura

I have just downloaded Sygic Aura, and it looks very nice.
but where can i find the map version? and i dont see any speedcams on the map. is it using fresh maps?
Anyone else knows of a good navi, let me know

I'm afraid I don't know IGO8, so can't compare other apps to it. But when I got my DHD 3 months ago, I tried all the sat nav paid apps available on the market at the time. (This was back when you could try for 24 hours.) I also read all the online reviews I could find.
In the end, for me, the choice boiled down to CoPilot and Navigon MobileNavigator. I preferred Navigon - the display was cleaner and easier to read, and it seemed to calculate better routes. CoPilot had more options, but they were options I didn't really need. CoPilot was also cheaper.
However Navigon didn't work well with my BlueAnt S4 bluetooth handsfree car speakerhone. The voice came out of both the phone and the handsfree at the same time. I wrote to Navigon about it, but they said that they couldn't support all different bluetooth devices. So I went with CoPilot, and I've been reasonably happy with it.
However a few weeks later the developer of an app call CarUI fixed the Navigon bluetooth problem - if you used CarUI to start Navigon, the sound only came out of the handsfree speaker. Don't know why Navigon couldn't do the same thing (unless they have by now).
CoPilot is fine, and I only really use sat nav from time to time, so it's probably a good thing that I chose the cheaper option. But I really did like the look of Navigon, it's work checking out.
Hope that helps.

Simkin84 said:
What navigation is the best for Desire HD?
I have IGO8 on my HD2 and i could not ask for a better navigation, i simply LOVE it! tried IGO for Android on my Desire HD, and i almost fell off my chair. WTF is that? not even close to the Windows version
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I know what you mean - the Adroid version of iGO is awful - jerky and those clunky sounds .
I've just been using HTC's Premium Navigator with downloaded maps. Although it said it would be a 30 day trial it's still going strong at twice that - looks like my licence is good until June!
For my needs, it's smooth and accurate enough.

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I've just been using HTC's Premium Navigator with downloaded maps..
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Does that work okay for UK postcodes now? I tried it in November, but found the postcode search wasn't very good - it only had a partial list of postcodes - my own road wasn't in it.

i have:
Sygic 10
NDrive
IGO
Sygic Aura
Navigon
i thought i try all them out and i like Sygic 10 the best so far

Thanks guys! i'll check out Navigon and CoPilot.

Recommend checking out these threads if you haven't already:
Here is a useful poll and some comments from other users about Navigation Software:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874988
Here are Dazultra and my reviews of different SatNav solutions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902264

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Recommend checking out these threads if you haven't already:
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Very interesting reading, thanks! I was relieved to see people saying similar things to my findings - Navigon comes out well for routes, and Contacts integration (I forgot to mention that above), but the interface could be improved (although I liked that it was clean and uncluttered). I really would have stuck with it if it wasn't for the BlueAnt handsfree problem.
CoPilot's interface is cluttered and it's routes aren't as good. I think they may have added Contacts integration now, I'll check next time I'm using it.
I don't think iGO was available when I was testing. I did try Sygic, but didn't get on well with it, I don't remember the details now. Of course testing for 24 hours isn't very easy, I think I only tested each one on the drive to work and back.
I only use sat nav occasionally, so CoPilot is good enough for me for now, but if Navigon ever fix the bluetooth issue I had with my handsfree, or if I had to rely on it on a daily basis, I'd possibly switch back.
I found TomTom on my iPhone was pretty good - better than my old Garmin satnav. It's a shame TomTom don't make an android app.

For the moment i'm using iGO and Navigon on my Desire HD
Navigon Mobile Navigator v3.5.3
But is Q1.2010 the newest maps for navigon? its seems outdated as it not even showing a roundabout and a road that was build over a year ago where i live. my iGO maps, which are 2010.09 is showing this. i have seen Q4.2010 maps for navigon an another forum, but for MN V7.
why is 3.5.3 stuck with outdated maps?
EDIT: Navigon freshmap says Q3, but but my phone says Q1. it still misses that roundabout and that road.

Navigation
Hi, i'm using Navigon 3.5, gives you traffic and alternative routes. Zip code and Poi's(also grapic) navigation.
As a former Tomtom user i'm quite happy.
Cheers,
Jim

CO-Pilot is working fine for me so far. Been around most of europe, never failed on me once. A good buy even though a little expensive.

Getting my DHD soon, but for now I have Co-Pilot on my Streak.
I have always had TomTom on my many Windows Mobile devices, and I loved it. On the move to Android however I had to leave TomTom behind for Co-Pilot which isn't at all as good unfortunately, but it does the job well.
The maps and program for Co-Pilot is widely available for free if you know where to look.

could i ask whats wrong with the google navigation thats free? not in a rude way just wondering the difference and why people dont use it

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could i ask whats wrong with the google navigation thats free? not in a rude way just wondering the difference and why people dont use it
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lets start with the bad things...
- no offline navigation
- unlimited dataplan useful
- no data connection with active phonecalls
- problems (of course) with lost data connection
- not very accurate when you got big crossings/streets with several lanes to take. Other software offer you some kind of assistance what lane to take
good things...
+ free! (except for data costs)
+ nice extras like sat pics
+ very good working with all google search results (POI always up to date/web)
+ traffic information always very accurate (at least in my area Frankfurt/Germany)
why do i use google?
- i got unlimited dataplan
- maps with actual versions are saved to some maps puffer. usually phone calls are not a problem
- coz its free and no matter what I search, I find it on google

My last phone was HTC HD2 with Tomtom it was just perfect!!
But Know i have the Desire Hd the things i need to know!! and i think i what to use the Copilot but is it also for Offline Use ??
And if i download it from internet do i have to look for a some kind of version!!
Same as by the HD2 ??
Ps. why does nobody have screenshort or a tut.movie that would be nice!!
Greetz Mark from Holland