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Which Nav Software do you use and briefly why?

Hey all,
I've been an avid user of TomTom from V5 upwards. I currently use V7.
I only have experience with TomTom and have always stuck to it as I've had no complaints. Easy to install, easy to customise etc..etc..
I'd like to ask you to vote which you use and why.
PLEASE CAN WE JUST GIVE REASONS AS TO WHY YOU USE WHICH AND NOT START ANY ARGUEMENTS WITH ANY OTHER POST!
Keep your reasons simple and to the point.
Many thanks
Wayne
edit: If anyone has any other nav software they use, I will amend the Poll accordingly.

I have tried Tomtom 7, Navigon and iGO8.
Quickly removed both Tomtom and Navigon when I got iGO8 running. Both of them had much more noticable lag.

Im using TomTom too.... but it does have lag, does igo8 have less?

tomj333 said:
Im using TomTom too.... but it does have lag, does igo8 have less?
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MUCH less.

I'm using tomtom, well that is to say I have it on my phone as I have in car satnav, but I use it to scroll through maps etc and find the place I'm looking for prior to getting in the car.
As such I'm not really worried about the lag issue (in fact I don't think I've even used it as satnav since I've had my HD).
I did try IGO8 but I immediately installed the tomtom skin as it's what I'm used to and I like the layout of tomtom.

i' using garmin.i think it better that tomtom.way more options, but guess they all do the same at the send.

TT, even if the last version is not working perfectly on HD 'cause it wasn't designed for it, anyway it's the best and it remain the only one

sat nav
I have the Garmin in my car but atm haven’t got on my phone but I would like to put it on. Can anyone tell me if I can use the software from my car one and if so how do you put it on. Alternatively where do you get the satnav software from and is it special one just for phones.

strange no one mentions about mapking... i'm using mapking though i prefer the background of garmin. but garmin searching can be a real headache

Like the OP, TomTom. I have used several versions over several years. Very easy to use.
There is a lot of scope for personalization and custom of map colour schemes and system menu screens etc.
The supported .ov2 POI files are common and easy to install. Voice alerts area easy to create and install for all POIs including safety cameras.
Having said the above, iGo8 for example has a more comprehensive map set and impressed me when visiting the UAE. I found the display and interface unfamiliar, but I would consider prolonged use with a TomTom skin.

TomTom here as well.
Mainly so I can use my Speed Camera Database.

How poor is that.....ONLY 25.6% (roughly a quarter) of those who voted shared a comment.

If it helps I use Route 66, so I didn't even get to vote

igo is the way to go
i have a Touch HD with both TomTom and Igo8 on, i was trying to use TomTom but found it lagged and was unreliable in getting a fix( a big prob with the HD) but when i put Igo on it worked first time and every time since, and i must admit it looks much better with the topography in 3d mode, its very nice, so i WAS a TomTom fan, but now im a Igo 8 convert.

I use SYGIC (Mc Guider) 7.6 because it´s easy to handle and it works in landscape perfekt.

Ive tried CoPilot, TomTom and iGo8, and I've stuck with iGo. It seems to update the quickest, the instructions are very clear and the display is excellent.

TomTom for me.
My wife bought me a full retail TomTom package a couple of years ago including the software + their GPS device at a total cost of GBP200 (~EUR180). When I (inevitably) upgraded my phone five months later I was unable to transfer the licence to the new machine because I'd gone up a version in WM and my TomTom software wouldn't install. All of that money we'd spent on the retail version was immediately wasted, which was very annoying.
I was forced to find and use a cracked version instead of my legal and perfectly good version simply because TomTom designed their software for one specific operating system and wouldn't do anything to help me.
I have bought lots of legal software for my PC and for my PDAs (and have donated to this site) and fully support the anti-warez policy on XDA-Dev, but out of principle now I will always use a cracked version of TomTom in revenge for TomTom's policy. TomTom will never get another penny from me.

BTW, this is a useful site for downloading free POIs for most software, thought it may be useful!
http://www.poifriend.com/

CoPilot is now listed as compatible with HD:
http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/compatibility.asp

Tried Navigon MN 7, iGo 8 and Tomtom 7...
I'm using Navigon MN7, just because it has the nicest look (maps...) when you drive...
iGo 8 is also very nice to use, unfortunately the Tele Atlas maps are not so accurate, compared to the much better NavteQ maps used by Navigon !
And Tomtom, for me, has the World ugliest display when you drive, AND the not so accurate Tele Atlas maps ! IMHO, definitely the worst navigating software you can use... ;-(

Best GPS software?

Im wondering which GPS software is best? Right now i have TomTom 7 its good but im still wondering if there are better ones.

Of course iGO8

a subjective question. For every person who says that tomtom is the best, you will find someone saying that Igo is....
decide what is best for YOU and go with it

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a subjective question. For every person who says that tomtom is the best, you will find someone saying that Igo is....
decide what is best for YOU and go with it
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I would have to join the IGO8 camp on this one. I have TomTom as well, but honestly, ever since I installed IGO8 I haven't started TomTom not a single time.
I prefer beautiful IGO graphics and I'm a bit of a sucker for features such as 3D landmark buildings and topographic display of terrain.
The overall experience with IGO8 has been very positive for me.

Well, I would say TomTom 7.9, because of it's ease of use, great functionality and stability, BUT! It misses the feature to record your route. iGO8 CAN do this. Even while navigating, you can record the exact GPS data. So if you decide to take a detour, you can later export the actual route and display it for example on Google Earth.
So, because of this I have to say iGO8.

iGO - eye candy
Route66 - resource intensive. lags in 3d
TomTom - sweet simple to use. fast.
I show off with iGO and prefer TomTom for major travelling.
Anyone tried Garmin? Btw anyone know of maps for India?

I use Co-Pilot 7 on my Touch HD really like it, clean and clear. Didn't like TomTom at all

How do these other units compare with Wayfinder?

I dont need fancy graphics in my GPS. TomTom it is.

Who cares about Eye Candy, are you driving while looking at your iGo or what? iGO was crap just because it didn't have much of the features of TomTom, as people mentioned already, TomTom is popular cause it is simple to use and very very clear.

just one question
do suffer with GPS lag on HD? my HD does.

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just one question
do suffer with GPS lag on HD? my HD does.
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Do you mean that its a bit slow with updating your position when youre about to make a turn for example? Mine is sometimes 1-2 second behind my real position. But it doesnt bother me.

i think the most important thing on navigation software is the right voice order where to drive, but more important, in the right moment. i tried lots of different software, but havent found the best yet. igo is very nice, but the voice tells me to turn left when its already too late. and its not lag dependent because the position is right and up 2 date.
so which software has the best voice timing?

str0nz0 said:
i think the most important thing on navigation software is the right voice order where to drive, but more important, in the right moment. i tried lots of different software, but havent found the best yet. igo is very nice, but the voice tells me to turn left when its already too late. and its not lag dependent because the position is right and up 2 date.
so which software has the best voice timing?
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My TomTom has very good voice timing. It tells me well in advance when i should turn and how many meters is left to the turn.

i downloaded co-pilot live you have to get the link from Alk if you have the Touch HD. It's great!

Useless subjective thread. GPS Test shows GPS signals but can't switch views since there is no D-Pad on the HD. You could try AE Button Plus to fix this. But haven't tried that.

Garmin Mobile XT works fine for me....

Anyone know of ANY gps apps with coverage for China? I have searched theres almost no info Tried garmin xt and it isnt useful and china support has been discontinued. The problem is all the commertial sites say like "100 cities in asia".... WHAT CITIES? they dont say Ive found a few but they only cover Beijing. I need map coverage with Pinyin/English. I don't even need fancy 3d. Something like Googlemap but with routing and streets labeled would be perfect. Any help appreciated.

I use Garmin XT and it works great,
no problems,
it even works great on all the cooked Roms i have tried,
and it finds the sats in about 10 to 15 seconds...

Best GPS software

I tried to do a search, but it came up unavailable.
I'm looking for the best GPS software available. I don't care if it's free or costs a couple hundred bucks! I'd like my X1 to be able to do everything the top of the line GPS system can do such as Garmin, Tom Tom, etc.
Please tell me which one you think is the best and why. Thank you.

I been using Garmin for 10 month.I like Garmin and got all nice ppl keep update free maps.So i'm support Garmin.Haha...i use free Garmin with Green Software.

I have tried CoPilot and hum Google Maps but for me, TomTom's Navigator 7.915 is the one that works best on the X1! (I haven't tried Garmin though...)

garmin
i use garmin

Igo my way for me

Same here. IGO8 works very nice.

Yeah, I have used both Garmin and iGO8. I used to keep both of them on my phone, just in case, but now I only use iGO and got rid of Garmin complete after a bad experience I had with it. iGO is smoother, looks nicer, and hasn't let me down. However this is all personal preference and opinion

I use Route66 Mobile 8 and am quite happy with it.
Jan Roelof

I'd vote for Copilot. For me, it just works and it's always solid. I only wish it attempted to say street names but it's way better than Wayfinder. It performs better too since you can load the entire map on your device. Works well in combination with Google Maps.

in china mainland i think CARELAND is our one of best chioce lol

Can any of these do 3d mapping? And Ive read that some can even distinguish exactly which lane of travel you're in...is this possible also?

I'm using autopmapa, and just used it to great success on a tour all around europe by car!
Its FAR FAR FAR better than my "proper" tomtom!!! google it

Tomtom because:
1. uses teleatlas maps
2. best interface with customization options
3. best online software support

Copilot:
- you can download it now for only $35
- very solid GPS with all sorts of sweet options

I use Garmin, iGO and Sygic.
Garmin is simple and user-friendly (in my opinion) but doesn't have many options. A lot of detailed maps are available and this is the primary reason to keep it.
iGO is nice and capable software which has the best 2d/3d visualization so far. Unfortunately my maps doesn't have a that much details as Garmin's. There is a noticeable cons - the loading process is unpleasantly slow.
Sygic Haven't used this program for a long period so keep this in mind.
Seems that Sygic use iGO maps - the interface is rather good and easy to manipulate. Again, I have some problems with the map details.
TomTom is also a popular choice although I haven't tried it yet.

For GPS software instead of just car-navigatin software, I'd have to give NoniGPSPlot a big thumbs up. Hideously full of features and extremely capable, but with the tiny downsides that it looks the littlest bit dated, and to get full use, a donation is required (ten euros, not much). Worth it though, and stunning software that seems to be able to do...anything.

for me,
Sygic is the best
and it's up to you
you can try them all at the same time not only one, and uninstall whatever you don't want

malixsys said:
I have tried CoPilot and hum Google Maps but for me, TomTom's Navigator 7.915 is the one that works best on the X1! (I haven't tried Garmin though...)
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jep agree with that
for me it's the best xD
you can personalize it with famous voices....xD kinda funny when the route is told you by bruce willis or someone else

I use both iGo8.3 and Copilot Live 7 (waiting for Australian maps to be released before updating to CPL8). Of the two, iGO8.3 has the better UI (3D graphics, TTS). However, having said that, iGO8 is an absolute hog on the X1's resources (CPU, memory etc) that when it's in use it pretty much precludes the use of any other app. I can get Coreplayer to run concurrently but app switching between the two is woefully slow as is switching to the phone app. Also our iGo8.3 Oz version doesn't support addressbook lookup which is a pain. I've gone back to CPL7. I agree with the earlier post, its fast, rock solid and just works. I'm rather concerned however that CPL8 will be resource intensive just like iGO8 because a lot of it features are now included in the latest release. A lot of developers overlook how much more memory etc a WVGA device uses. My 2 cents for what its worth ...

my country.. garmin is the best

Best Working SatNav for Desire?

Looking for turn by turn directions to replace my TomTom. It seems the only option is CoPilot Live?
Anyone seen a working version of iGO My way for Android? Used to have on WinMo and was pretty good. Their site shows lots of details but nowhere to buy (search on google for 'android iGO' and it's the first listing - I can't post URL's yet).

Navigon, Sygic are also options you might want to look at.
Currently using Sygic, but it does not have support for nordic characters æøå, so it makes address typing kinda stupid.

Also try NDrive -- I really liked it.

Nice - more choices than I realised! Anyone have 1st hand experience of them in the UK, i.e. are the post codes up to date?

pilgrim_uk said:
Nice - more choices than I realised! Anyone have 1st hand experience of them in the UK, i.e. are the post codes up to date?
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I've played with CoPilot and NDrive -- both worked fine and I found postcodes that I needed. However, I only made one or two trips with each app.

....with GPRS Traffic updates?
Is it only Copilot that supports traffic updates over GPRS?
I find these absolutely necessary in the UK, though Copilot 7 on my THD handles rerouting very poorly indeed and puts me off the software. Is it improved in Copilot 8?

I have Sygic Mobile 10 and Copilot 8 on my Deisre. Both work extremely well. Of the two, I refer Sygic, as the interface is much more TomTom -like, (i.e. virtually identical) and therefore extremely user-friendly.

Try downloading the patched google maps and try out Google Maps Navigation before you actually buy any GPS software.

nubbin, please if you can give some reviews:
- Which one is the fastest for getting satellite lock?
- How about re-routing? Which one is better?
- Is there any GPS lag? The map direction is bit behind the actual situation
Thanks.
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I have Sygic Mobile 10 and Copilot 8 on my Deisre. Both work extremely well. Of the two, I refer Sygic, as the interface is much more TomTom -like, (i.e. virtually identical) and therefore extremely user-friendly.
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I'll review them as soon as I've had a chance to play properly - I only got my phone yesterday afternoon!
I'm just trying the GPS lock - I noticed this morning that it didn't get a fix at all on my drive to work, but from my desk at work it hooks up to GPS satellites almost immediately from "warm". and takes about 20 seconds from cold - much better than my Diamond2, and very quick!
The display is superb, and big enough to look like a dedicated SatNav. I haven't got a car cradle at the moment so I haven't been able to safely assess the accuracy and scrolling speed of the maps, but I imagine with a 1Ghz processor it will be very good. I'll let you know. Personally I prefer Sygic for the user interface.

I have tried almost all of the turn-by-turn navigation soft for Android and ended up with buying a cheap PNA with WinCE and installing iGO on it. iGO for Android still is not official and cannot be bought. If there aren’t very higher requirements (just navigate me from point A to B), almost all of them will do the work. But as soon as you want something specific, you’ll find out no one can match anything more than simple navigation, which Google soon will offer for free everywhere. Probably, I would choose CoPilot if it wasn’t so buggy and if ALK support wasn’t so awful. However, despite the fact I don't test it in a real situation (because of the lack of functionality), Navigon looks as quality made soft and I like its Android integration. It has 30 days trial and at least cost nothing trying it.

When will tom tom release an android version?

Thanks all, good info so far - keep it coming! Nubbin, let us know how you get on trying it out, Sygic looks pretty good.
Somone mentioned Google Maps but my understanding was that it didn't offer turn by turn directions in the UK? I was thinking that having the maps stored locally on the device would also help reduce amount of data sent over the air but this may be negligible?

I quite like waze, the spoken instructions seem better than google navigation but perhaps that is because google isn't properly supported yet.

pilgrim_uk said:
Thanks all, good info so far - keep it coming! Nubbin, let us know how you get on trying it out, Sygic looks pretty good.
Somone mentioned Google Maps but my understanding was that it didn't offer turn by turn directions in the UK? I was thinking that having the maps stored locally on the device would also help reduce amount of data sent over the air but this may be negligible?
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There's a patched version somewhere on XDA which allows navigation in the UK/Europe. Search for it, should be in the G1 forum.

iGO on Android
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iGO for Android still is not official and cannot be bought.
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iGO on my THD is by far my favourite SatNav despite it not having Traffic Updates in the UK. I asked the question about iGO My way 8 for Android on PocketGPSWorld a few days ago. MaFt was able to provide an answer. Apparently Navngo (which is a Hungarian company) is only providing "white label" Android software to OEMs, thus Samsung can install it on the Galaxy Spica and probably where it's been lifted from to be made available to the community via illegitimate routes. Though there are other methods of getting software sold to Android owners, as proven by Sygic, PGPSW surmise that their chief reason for not making it available is that Google ban apps in Android Market from East European countries.
I wrote to Navngo but typically didn't get a response (I NEVER do!) and I also wrote to HTC about whether in the absence of their SatNav partner, TomTom, on the Android platform they'd consider providing iGO instead. I did get a timely response from them but it was utterly useless ...a stock reply saying they cannot provide support for this third part application ...DUH!! That wasn't the question I asked!!
Anyhow, reading comments about iGO My way 8 on the N1 it seems that, though it runs, the GUI has only been formatted for the Galaxy Spica's 320x480 resolution and so only appears in the top corner. My recollection is that this was the case on the THD too before the theme developers got hold of it and reformatted it. Not too long later Navngo released it for the THD looking exactly the same as the developers work.
...iGO still doesn't have traffic updates in the UK(*) though - and they wouldn't reply to the email I sent them about that either!
*iGO only accepts traffic updates via RDS-TMC (no GPRS) and RDS-TMC in the UK is an encrypted, OEM subscription only service thus it's only available to TomTom owners and OEM fit in-vehicle SatNavs, and isn't received by HTC's on-board FM radios either so requires an external receiver (i.e. RoyalTek). RDS-TMC is free and freely available in Europe. I daren't suggest to HTC that they provide support for it in future - I don't know what response I'll get!!

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Nubbin, let us know how you get on trying it out, Sygic looks pretty good.
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Had a bit of a drive with the phone stuck in the cup holder. Used Sygic and CoPilot and both worked extremely well. No visible lag to either, and very nice smooth scrolling of the maps. in fact the little blue pointer was spot on even at higher speeds. Clearly the fast CPU in the Desire works well in making the map refresh. The maps are very clear and easy to read. If anything it works better than a dedicated PNA such as a TomTom.
I really need a proper car cradle now. Any ideas, anyone?

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Thanks for that info! I really didn’t know that iGO does not support TMC in UK and I was regretting about recent PNA buy, because it has not a TMC receiver. Even I considered changing it for that.
Anyway, I have tried “leaked” version on my current device and since it has 320x480 screen there is not a problem with resolution. But actually I weren’t very impressed from iGO for Android. It requires a huge amount of free internal memory and with Qualcomm 512MHz it was very, very sluggish. In addition this is the “My Way” version, which is not so features rich as 8.3.x.
However, iGO for WinCE/WM remains the best Sat Nav solution in my opinion. It's much better than garmin, tom-tom, navigon, ndrive, sygic and all others, in terms of features, customization, speed, interface, reliability, speed cameras alerts and routing. I'm still hoping that they are going to improve the Android version as well, because I prefer not to carry different devices for every single task

Can I use my Co-Pilot Live 8 License from my old HD2 on a Android phone?

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Can I use my Co-Pilot Live 8 License from my old HD2 on a Android phone?
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Another user on the forum said he did exactly that; contact the company and they 'transferred' the license.

[Q]the Best navigation for Desire HD

What navigation is the best for Desire HD?
I have IGO8 on my HD2 and i could not ask for a better navigation, i simply LOVE it! tried IGO for Android on my Desire HD, and i almost fell off my chair. WTF is that? not even close to the Windows version
So, what navi is most simular to IGO8 on Desire HD?

I use Sygic Aura

I have just downloaded Sygic Aura, and it looks very nice.
but where can i find the map version? and i dont see any speedcams on the map. is it using fresh maps?
Anyone else knows of a good navi, let me know

I'm afraid I don't know IGO8, so can't compare other apps to it. But when I got my DHD 3 months ago, I tried all the sat nav paid apps available on the market at the time. (This was back when you could try for 24 hours.) I also read all the online reviews I could find.
In the end, for me, the choice boiled down to CoPilot and Navigon MobileNavigator. I preferred Navigon - the display was cleaner and easier to read, and it seemed to calculate better routes. CoPilot had more options, but they were options I didn't really need. CoPilot was also cheaper.
However Navigon didn't work well with my BlueAnt S4 bluetooth handsfree car speakerhone. The voice came out of both the phone and the handsfree at the same time. I wrote to Navigon about it, but they said that they couldn't support all different bluetooth devices. So I went with CoPilot, and I've been reasonably happy with it.
However a few weeks later the developer of an app call CarUI fixed the Navigon bluetooth problem - if you used CarUI to start Navigon, the sound only came out of the handsfree speaker. Don't know why Navigon couldn't do the same thing (unless they have by now).
CoPilot is fine, and I only really use sat nav from time to time, so it's probably a good thing that I chose the cheaper option. But I really did like the look of Navigon, it's work checking out.
Hope that helps.

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What navigation is the best for Desire HD?
I have IGO8 on my HD2 and i could not ask for a better navigation, i simply LOVE it! tried IGO for Android on my Desire HD, and i almost fell off my chair. WTF is that? not even close to the Windows version
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I know what you mean - the Adroid version of iGO is awful - jerky and those clunky sounds .
I've just been using HTC's Premium Navigator with downloaded maps. Although it said it would be a 30 day trial it's still going strong at twice that - looks like my licence is good until June!
For my needs, it's smooth and accurate enough.

Restorer said:
I've just been using HTC's Premium Navigator with downloaded maps..
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Does that work okay for UK postcodes now? I tried it in November, but found the postcode search wasn't very good - it only had a partial list of postcodes - my own road wasn't in it.

i have:
Sygic 10
NDrive
IGO
Sygic Aura
Navigon
i thought i try all them out and i like Sygic 10 the best so far

Thanks guys! i'll check out Navigon and CoPilot.

Recommend checking out these threads if you haven't already:
Here is a useful poll and some comments from other users about Navigation Software:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874988
Here are Dazultra and my reviews of different SatNav solutions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902264

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Recommend checking out these threads if you haven't already:
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Very interesting reading, thanks! I was relieved to see people saying similar things to my findings - Navigon comes out well for routes, and Contacts integration (I forgot to mention that above), but the interface could be improved (although I liked that it was clean and uncluttered). I really would have stuck with it if it wasn't for the BlueAnt handsfree problem.
CoPilot's interface is cluttered and it's routes aren't as good. I think they may have added Contacts integration now, I'll check next time I'm using it.
I don't think iGO was available when I was testing. I did try Sygic, but didn't get on well with it, I don't remember the details now. Of course testing for 24 hours isn't very easy, I think I only tested each one on the drive to work and back.
I only use sat nav occasionally, so CoPilot is good enough for me for now, but if Navigon ever fix the bluetooth issue I had with my handsfree, or if I had to rely on it on a daily basis, I'd possibly switch back.
I found TomTom on my iPhone was pretty good - better than my old Garmin satnav. It's a shame TomTom don't make an android app.

For the moment i'm using iGO and Navigon on my Desire HD
Navigon Mobile Navigator v3.5.3
But is Q1.2010 the newest maps for navigon? its seems outdated as it not even showing a roundabout and a road that was build over a year ago where i live. my iGO maps, which are 2010.09 is showing this. i have seen Q4.2010 maps for navigon an another forum, but for MN V7.
why is 3.5.3 stuck with outdated maps?
EDIT: Navigon freshmap says Q3, but but my phone says Q1. it still misses that roundabout and that road.

Navigation
Hi, i'm using Navigon 3.5, gives you traffic and alternative routes. Zip code and Poi's(also grapic) navigation.
As a former Tomtom user i'm quite happy.
Cheers,
Jim

CO-Pilot is working fine for me so far. Been around most of europe, never failed on me once. A good buy even though a little expensive.

Getting my DHD soon, but for now I have Co-Pilot on my Streak.
I have always had TomTom on my many Windows Mobile devices, and I loved it. On the move to Android however I had to leave TomTom behind for Co-Pilot which isn't at all as good unfortunately, but it does the job well.
The maps and program for Co-Pilot is widely available for free if you know where to look.

could i ask whats wrong with the google navigation thats free? not in a rude way just wondering the difference and why people dont use it

rosswaa said:
could i ask whats wrong with the google navigation thats free? not in a rude way just wondering the difference and why people dont use it
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lets start with the bad things...
- no offline navigation
- unlimited dataplan useful
- no data connection with active phonecalls
- problems (of course) with lost data connection
- not very accurate when you got big crossings/streets with several lanes to take. Other software offer you some kind of assistance what lane to take
good things...
+ free! (except for data costs)
+ nice extras like sat pics
+ very good working with all google search results (POI always up to date/web)
+ traffic information always very accurate (at least in my area Frankfurt/Germany)
why do i use google?
- i got unlimited dataplan
- maps with actual versions are saved to some maps puffer. usually phone calls are not a problem
- coz its free and no matter what I search, I find it on google

My last phone was HTC HD2 with Tomtom it was just perfect!!
But Know i have the Desire Hd the things i need to know!! and i think i what to use the Copilot but is it also for Offline Use ??
And if i download it from internet do i have to look for a some kind of version!!
Same as by the HD2 ??
Ps. why does nobody have screenshort or a tut.movie that would be nice!!
Greetz Mark from Holland