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New WM UI by PointUI

An interesting development going on at PointUI for a new WM experience. Found it at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354855

thanks for the heads up, looks pretty good

The PoinUI web page is located at: http://www.pointui.com/. According to their posting, the interface will be available shortly.

Just been released and works a treat.
Don't forget to turn off FTouchflo first.
Deva

It is available now and is very smooth! And it works fine with TouchFlo.

Using it now. Probably spend some time today learning to navigate the interface. Initial impression is very good!

I can't do .exe from my work computer. Does anyone have the .cab by chance?

Hi,
Just installed, till now no issues to report.
Regards

MrDSL said:
I can't do .exe from my work computer. Does anyone have the .cab by chance?
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Here u go a cab file
Greg

its brilliant, tried most things, perfect so far

greg beat me to it....

I like what I see so far, I may just drop the HTC look!

nice fresh UI.. only drawback when running this UI, few of your hardware buttons namely Messaging, IE button, Windows & OK buttons will not work ..it needs some manual re-mapping for hermes I believed.
..other hardware buttons works though..
nonetheless, it is a great program overall

Just the time to be used to and... you cannot imagine working without. Nice tool. I just hope that it will be possible to use all buttons

Very cool interface. I do find the HTC home more efficient, but this is a very fun interface to play with. No problems with operation.

I agree. HTC Home is more efficient. I like the HTC Home tabs. Use them all the time.
Trying to find anything that resembles a configuration page for PointUI. Probably go back to HTC Home.

Experiment is over; went back to HTC Home. Initial impressions were very good. However, when I tried to use it, as I would on a daily basis, it was difficult to get to the things I use.
Probably will monitor the development of this interface to see if it improves below the surface. BTW, it doesn't remove easily. I had to do a restore (Sprite Backup) to get back. I guess there is a benefit in doing a backup before trying new software.

I love the look and feel, if they could fix the button mapping and add a browser with the speed of safari this could definitely squash the iphone. Would be nice to have some other backgrounds too. HTC Home may be more efficient but this way cooler... I'm sticking with it.
Things it needs:
customizable launcher so far that's my only complaint
Comment:
removal was very simple using the update manager program navigate to Home v1.o and select uninstall, very neat and clean.

For some reason the cab didn't work for me, using stock Cingular ROM. Regular installer worked fine tho

I've installed it on 2 devices using different service providers, installation worked ok, very slick navigation. I like it although having used HTC Home and HTC Plus! I would say it does take a little longer to get to specific apps as its not configurable yet.
Here are some observations
1. Would be better if you could select the items on the home page, I don't need weather, I can look out of the window and see what its like today and can look on line for a more accurate forecast if I need it.
2. I have a couple of ICONS in applications and games that error with shellres.dll the error complains about not being signed or a missing component
3. Notifications appear but dissapear and then cannot be re-located, this is a pain with Voicemail if you don't already have SMS alert set.
4. Would like the option to choose a different theme.
5. Why 2 clocks, configuration should allow for either type either analogue or digital.

ROM: 3rd WM 6.5 ROM for hTC P3300-P3350_Artemis&Love[WM6.5 Beta 21159] 17-Feb 09 !!!

ROM: 3rd WM 6.5 ROM for hTC P3300-P3350_Artemis&Love[WM6.5 Beta 21159] 17-Feb 09 !!!
3rd rom from dheewatara-s:
http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=200154&PN=985
http://rapidshare.com/files/199086096/Pawaj_65.7z.html
+CHOME
+ ie6
- No MMS
- PDA+radio
http://rapidshare.com/files/199080532/Pawaj_65_M2D.7z.html
+CHOME
+ M2D IPhone Style
+ ie6
- No MMS
- PDA +radio

Testing
I have installed and testing now.
The above pictures shows Program Free Memory as 16.68MB but actual is as below.
At Fresh boot Storage Free 44.44MB and Programs Free 22.63 MB
Download Link from Rapidshare with IE6: http://rapidshare.com/files/197880124/WM6_5_3rd21159.rar

Download in progressing,will flash later today & give feedback...
dioooi said:
3rd rom from dheewatara-s:
http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=200154&PN=985
http://www.mediafire.com/?jibyejhwmmg
+ ie6
- No MMS
- PDA Part only
http://www.mediafire.com/?gjwyltz3w4o
No ie6
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Although my Artemis shows 60 % free program memory, this ROM is still painfully slow.

i've download now n will try...

Thanks for the rom!
Like user above, runs very slow on the main menu but once in file explorer etc it's just as fast.
Time to upgrade the phone??

3rd wm 6.5 rom p3300
I have tried all 3 version of this ROM,
nice look but very very slow on my artemis.
today TITANIUM good, Honeyconbs slooooow other apll quite fast,
IGO8 breeze, tt7 slow.
I hope that some1 can make this fast than today.

it was lag & makes my phone hang... this ROM requires more RAM...
anyway thanks uploader... something new...

tested it for 20 minutes.
TOO SLOW on Artemis.

downloaded and tested for a day or so now
the titanium is better than in previous versions, seems to run smoothly and integrates well at last...good to see the clock finally making a propper appearance in there
also the first chance to play with the new honeycomb interface.
unfortunately the jury is still out on this one.
my view is that it's more of a hinderance than anything else at the moment.
This totally replaces the start menu. Click on the start button and you're taken straight into the honeycomb interface. I wasn't expecting this behaviour from it...i thought it would be more of a today plugin replacement or something, and if it's going to behave like this on new roms it needs to be
a)quick
and
b) easy for you to find your programs or settings that you want.
Personally i dont think it does this yet.
You can click and hold to bring any app into the "favourites" part of the comb, which means you can now "pin" your favourite apps...mcuh like your last used apps used to automatically appear at the top of the start menu.
Unfortunately i think finding anything more than you favourite 5 or 10 progs would quickly become a real pain in the ass.
let me give a quick random example
on a "classic" style rom, let say you want to go to the "SMS SETTINGS" app....you'll go to start , settings, hit the communications tab at the bootom and choose SMS SETTINGS
on this i'll go to start, straight into the honeycomb. From experience i know that it's not in here (which is good becuase this is now a looong page to look in) so i choose the SETTINGS cell. now all i can see is 7 cells and remember there are no tabs here anymore so this is ALL of your settings. I've got About, backlight, bluetooth, buttons , certification, and clocks and alarms. Anything else i have to start randomly scrolling and searching so i start moving downwards. Eventually find it on the 12th cell on the left That's 12 'Down clicks'. If i wanted WLAN SETTINGS or something i would have to do a lot more scrolling. Everything is alphabetically sorted which helps, but it's a 3 colum system and so you still need to read ALL of the available options and you need to know EXACTLY what that app is called (is it TOMTOM or NAVIGATION? Is it under T or N ? etc...you get the gist)
I hope they are still experimenting with this interface becuase i think it looks good and COULD, if done right, be a really nice feature for the WM6.5 system...but it still needs some fundamental work before it works well. Remember how, from the concept art, we through it would be a 2d scrolling 'intellingent' list...it's not. It's stricly up and down alphabetical.
I can't quite put my finger on what it IS that's wrong with it...but there is SOMETHING...it just takes too lonk to find what you need at the moment. Maybe it's just unfamiliarity and it'll all become clear after a few days use, after all i've had 5 years of experience with the old system...the same as lots of people switch vista and XP's interface into win2k mode becuase they know where everything is. I always plead with those gus to stick with it and learn the newer systems becuase they usually DO make sense....but this time i cant see it yet
The new lock mechanism also needs some work. they've obviously tried to emulate a slide-to-unlock mechanism without making it TOO similar to the iphone....unfortunately this means that you get the small blue slider we've all seen on the screenshots at the top-center of the screen and sliding it 1cm or 2 to either the left or right unnlocks. I personally think this gives too much scope for accidental unlocking. I mentioned in another thread a while back about how a "shake to unlock" feature would be self defeating. the point of a lock is to make sure that when the phone wakes up becuase of incomming texts or whatever the phone doesnt totally wake up and end up accidentally resetting all of your calendar appointements or calling people while it's in your pocket....you need it to be HARD to unlock accidentally, but not hard to unlock intentionally. The balance is not quite right here either, same as the honeycomb.
it's still in beta and hopefully the whole thing just needs those last few "tweaks" to the functionality and ergonomics before it too "makes sense" but right now i'm more than willing to switch back to dhee's last manilla rom....it's just easier to use. I hope i'm right and that this rom is in BETA for both reliabiliy AND functionality reasons.
theres a lot of potential, but it isn't there yet.
these comments are ALL down to the mew 6.5 system, NOT dhee's rom, which seems to have done everything it can with what it's been given. Considering the clumsyness of the new interface etc this is as good as i could hope for a 6.5 beta rom to be, and i will install his next rom without ANY hesitation.
for anyone wanting to try the new features out, this is the rom to go for, but i wouldn't blame anyone for not keeping it for too long
thanks again dhee for a great rom, i just hope you get an improved system to pass on to us next. I'll probably leave this one for another day or so to see if it grows on me, jstu like i gave XP and vista's new interfaces a chance.

he's now updated it with an M2D version, link : http://pirun.ku.ac.th/~fscinrn/Download/Pawaj_65_M2D.7z
will flash and let you know, i'm not convinced there's enough room on this rom for M2D too but who knows, he usually pulls it off well
NOTE the download is ONLY an NBH file

rom 6.5 M2D NEW
I have flashed 3 times my artemis with this ROM but always, after reboot wake up one error and auto reboot, so, for me is not working
I hope that someone can fix it.

rossomalpelo said:
I have flashed 3 times my artemis with this ROM but always, after reboot wake up one error and auto reboot, so, for me is not working
I hope that someone can fix it.
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Same result ... And i flash once - device reboot, show me white screen, show error message and reboot again. Back to YuE WM 6.1 firmware. Waiting for stable release.

yeah, the M2D version didnt work for me....reverted back to his earlier 6.5 Beta 2 version with M2D becuase i dont think the honeycomb and titanium is quite ready yet

very very slow.. also the menu is not very much clear

d-signet said:
he's now updated it with an M2D version, link : http://pirun.ku.ac.th/~fscinrn/Download/Pawaj_65_M2D.7z
will flash and let you know, i'm not convinced there's enough room on this rom for M2D too but who knows, he usually pulls it off well
NOTE the download is ONLY an NBH file
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This one is not from dheewatara, and was one of the first roms to include WM6.5.
So far DJ M2D WM6.5 5.0 UL is the quickest and smoothest.

i found DJ M2D WM6.5 5.0 UL to be the same speed as the 2nd rom with M2D from dheewatara, but dheewatara's rom has the newer camera version (with panorama mode) and a slightly newer rom version if i remember correctly. I'm sticking with that one for now

we beg pardon for my terrible English :-[ , I wanted hear there is version room without additional programs ( light ) plz give reference

Hi ppl,
All the links give error .... not found....
Can someone give me a positive link?

Hi any re-uploaded links?
Thanks

Titanium plugins (CLauncher & CComm) for WM6.5 Standard

I am porting some Titanium plugins for WM6.5 Standard.
Currently, I have ported the CLauncher & CComm, both of which were originally developed by "chriscsh" and quite good.
You can find out more information about these plugins on their corresponding threads:
* Titanium CLauncher http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514490
* Titanium CComm http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513747
The plugins require Mortscript, which is also included below.
I have only tested and verified the plugins using the PD Titanium panels on the EnergyROM. However, I believe they should work on the 3vo ROM as well. These plugins use the ATPluginInstaller, which provides a robust installation and limits compatibility issue with other panels.
Here are some screenshots:
(CLauncher showing two applications, Facebook & Tiny Twitter)
(CComm showing the two pages, Setup & Phone connection)
(Steps for adding an application to the CLauncher panel, in this case, Opera Mini)

is there anywhere we can add another panel? one for apps another for games if possible?

Well.... not exactly. The CLauncher is a single panel.
The idea here is to be able to access and launch applications that are used very frequently (maximum of 9). It really does not matter if they are games, utilities, online applications, native applications.
The feature that you ask for would need to be implemented in a different plugin.

thats what im saying like an a cab that will let us another panel like clauncher

This two are working great, the only one i miss is the contact panel,

i dont have much experience with this type of mods, and im getting an atplugin error, so if anyone could help i would really appreciate.

can someone help me set this up no idea how

yeah working fine in portrait mode too!!! (some fix to the cpr but nothing impmossible!!)
really good job!
now we need a way to add more than one launcher... it could be great and usefull!!
ty

KROMO50 said:
can someone help me set this up no idea how
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O.k once you install the .cabs I had to go to Chome Config. and "show" both panels. You can the go back to you home screen and setup the CComm panel. As for as the CLauncher panel goes manual input works best; expecialy if your apps are located on your storage card, i.e \Storage Card\Program Files\Facebook\facebook.exe. Then you name it, and choose a icon. Ihave Chome Config. Icon-pak installed and I get mine form there. Hope this helps. I would love to have Chome Config work fully on WM6.5 though.

Ok, I am scratching my head just a little here. I have this set up and it is working well. I am able to launch a couple of programs. Of course I set those app's up using the "Choose from list" method. Now....here is the problem. I am trying to add the Opera Mini app using the manual method referred to in your 3th picture, but my Branded T-Mobile Dash does not seem to have a forward slash "\", only a backward slash "/". Am I blind, or just being a n00b? I have looked the keyboard over and over again, and honestly, I don't think it has it. Help please.

skyline247 said:
Ok, I am scratching my head just a little here. I have this set up and it is working well. I am able to launch a couple of programs. Of course I set those app's up using the "Choose from list" method. Now....here is the problem. I am trying to add the Opera Mini app using the manual method referred to in your 3th picture, but my Branded T-Mobile Dash does not seem to have a forward slash "\", only a backward slash "/". Am I blind, or just being a n00b? I have looked the keyboard over and over again, and honestly, I don't think it has it. Help please.
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when your typing, press on your symbol button, and you'll find it on the symbol list.
BTW, works good on 3VO rom

roloracer said:
when your typing, press on your symbol button, and you'll find it on the symbol list.
BTW, works good on 3VO rom
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Ah. I see said the blind man. Heck, I didn't even know that was what that button is for. Guess it would have helped if I read my owners manual, lol. I was so used to texting on my previous phone, Motorola RAZR. Like I said before, I am new to the smartphone/full keyboard thing.
Thanx man. I would have taken forever figuring that out.

skyline247 said:
Ok, I am scratching my head just a little here. I have this set up and it is working well. I am able to launch a couple of programs. Of course I set those app's up using the "Choose from list" method. Now....here is the problem. I am trying to add the Opera Mini app using the manual method referred to in your 3th picture, but my Branded T-Mobile Dash does not seem to have a forward slash "\", only a backward slash "/". Am I blind, or just being a n00b? I have looked the keyboard over and over again, and honestly, I don't think it has it. Help please.
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To get the "\" you must press the camera/sym key that is to the right of the space bar. There you can find backslash.

Is there a task plugin for windows mobile 6.1
Is there a task plugin for windows mobile 6.1. Which can display tasks on homescreen.

awilaman said:
I am porting some Titanium plugins for WM6.5 Standard.
Currently, I have ported the CLauncher & CComm, both of which were originally developed by "chriscsh" and quite good.
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Can you look into porting the AT Favorites? Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506221

awilaman said:
Here are some screenshots:
(CLauncher showing two applications, Facebook & Tiny Twitter)
(CComm showing the two pages, Setup & Phone connection)
(Steps for adding an application to the CLauncher panel, in this case, Opera Mini)
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Now i feel like i wasted 30 minutes of my time or that i'm not as lazy as some people who use roms.... when i installed the 3vo rom series i spent the first 30 mintues after initial setup editing one of my chome panels so i could have a programs panel with facebook, twitter, oz messenger, youtube, and opera mini. the made a second panel for my comm settings, reboot, and free memory. lol. i guess when the final version is released i'll just use your ports instead of wasting my time. lol

jdshifflett said:
Now i feel like i wasted 30 minutes of my time or that i'm not as lazy as some people who use roms.... when i installed the 3vo rom series i spent the first 30 mintues after initial setup editing one of my chome panels so i could have a programs panel with facebook, twitter, oz messenger, youtube, and opera mini. the made a second panel for my comm settings, reboot, and free memory. lol. i guess when the final version is released i'll just use your ports instead of wasting my time. lol
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What I did is export the registry entries for my custom panels, so when I reflash just import those entries and I'm ready to go, just export the following entries
HKLM\Security\CHome\DefaultSettings\""Your panel name"
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\CHome\""Your panel name"
The export is on My documents so after you export copy it to your SD card
Hope this help and save some time next time
Regards,
Enrique M. Perez

Empel1960 said:
What I did is export the registry entries for my custom panels, so when I reflash just import those entries and I'm ready to go, just export the following entries
HKLM\Security\CHome\DefaultSettings\""Your panel name"
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\CHome\""Your panel name"
The export is on My documents so after you export copy it to your SD card
Hope this help and save some time next time
Regards,
Enrique M. Perez
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ahh. very keen mind sire. i'll defiantly keep that on the top of my to-do list since ookba just announce that we can finally start counting down to his newest release. it should save me a little time before i start testing

Can somebody please upload the titanium *.cpr files from the Energy ROM?!
Thanks

any updates needed for the newest 3vo update or are we good to go?
EDIT:: newest 3vo has it built in already. haha

Who here disabled TF3D?

Anyone disabled TF3D and kept the original WM home screen interface? I personally disabled it and kept the original interface even though I don't like how the WM SMS look. I disabled it because I don't like the default TF3D colors and I tried changing it black, but it's a no go. I don't know why! I did change the background and the drop menu all black which looks pretty neat since anything black looks good. What I really want is the WM6.5 Zune interface so I can't wait for WM6.5 official release!!!
Let us know what you have.

TF3D does not appeal to me!
TF3D is pretty, so people "oooo" and "aaah" over the phone and buy it.
However, I still think that TF3D is a bunch of useless kitsch that gets in the way of actually using the phone effectively. After a few hours of it interfering with what I want to do, I turned it off. (At least this time it took a few hours and not a few minutes.)
This is especially true of the messaging (it's just in the way), and the photo album. (who wants to see tiny, slanted, distorted versions of the pictures?) It's been a while, so I cannot remember the other specific things that annoyed me.

TF3D was the first thing I disabled on the device... I don't like that I cannot choose my own programs and way of working.
I use Wisbar Advance and Wisbar Desktop

on my personal Touch HD I much prefered the TouchFLo interface to the standard windows one - saying that, that was running a Dutty ROM
However on my work TP2 - I have it disabled as it gets in the way of my business apps - i.e. MS Communicator etc.

TF3D has bad things an good things.
The biggest failure and that's why TF3D is just crap is because it's not intuitive and easy to use. Way to many steps to get things done, pretty useless taskbar (exepts for the killing programs part). You can do to much information on one screen at the same time and too little. It's nice that they include things like a calendar, but it's pretty useless and in many ways TF3D makes the use of third party software actually harder.
The very good things about touchflo 3d is the push pages, the scheduels, and the best thing is the fueture to see all of your conversation with one contact. I really love it. Next to that it's snappy and pretty.
Well I treid SPB mobile shell 3, but it just doesn't do it. Also many features, but the fact is: when I use my phone it's to get something done pretty quickly. I just want to be able that I have a good view of all the info I need (messages, appointments) in the least ammount of time and to be able to do something in little time. The regular wm is just very easy. Start - settings/programs - choose- done.
Seeing my messages when there is a new one I get a popup and pres view and I there. I do not have to click the task baar. Get a new screen there push on the button, then being transported to the touchflo tab and then have to choose the message.
THats 2 clicks vs 4/5 clicks.

I kept the default TF3d for now, as soon as the official WM 6.5 ROM will be available, I'll switch to the Titanium UI.

Bright.Light said:
TF3D was the first thing I disabled on the device... I don't like that I cannot choose my own programs and way of working.
I use Wisbar Advance and Wisbar Desktop
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I will give Wisbar Advance a try. Thanks!

I prefer Manilla2D over TF3D.

how
how do you disable tf3d??

cavenger said:
how do you disable tf3d??
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go to Settings>Personal>Today>, Items Tab & untick the TF3D then click OK

ty!! Need to find something to replace it now.
henh said:
go to Settings>Personal>Today>, Items Tab & untick the TF3D then click OK
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mschaffer said:
TF3D is pretty, so people "oooo" and "aaah" over the phone and buy it.
However, I still think that TF3D is a bunch of useless kitsch that gets in the way of actually using the phone effectively. After a few hours of it interfering with what I want to do, I turned it off. (At least this time it took a few hours and not a few minutes.)
This is especially true of the messaging (it's just in the way), and the photo album. (who wants to see tiny, slanted, distorted versions of the pictures?) It's been a while, so I cannot remember the other specific things that annoyed me.
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I totally agree!

SPB Mobile Shell 3.0. I like having one-touch access to everything I need (email, sms, weather, contacts, favorites, apps, etc...) right on the front page.

FEWidgets Ultimate 1.0b7
cavenger said:
ty!! Need to find something to replace it now.
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An interesting 'Widget' based replacement for TF3D I came on when I was looking around on XDA.
"FEWidgets Ultimate" by nicodega.
It replaces TF3D completely as a 'Today' plugin.
Basically one just has to install the CAB.
(Note: it will not show up under All Programs, but as a Today plugin only)
> Go into Settings> Today>
> Remove check next TF3D
> Enable Check next to FEWidgets Ultimate
Two versions- Large widgets and Small Widgets for anyone who needs a whole bunch of widgets.
I did try it out on my TMO TP2 and both versions basically work when I tested each separately.
Though I haven't tried fine-tuning each widget for my TP2 yet.
Enjoy.

i kept my TP1 and gave the TP2 to Dad whose TmoWing crapped out. Had to disable TF3D for him today. The last straw was contacts/call history will not allow you to dial out, it's link to the phone dialer was broken or something. I don't know if this is a result of a tweak I did or if the Tmo's TF3D version has a bug. After disabling TF3D, you can press the contacts again to call out. For future reference, anyone know the cause/solution?
Like above guy said, now I need a replacement for tf3d. The last version of BatteryStatus that I used was 1.04build266 from this time last year, which has since been replaced by HomeScreenPlusPlus or something like that. Anyone know of a stable version for the TP2? Stable enough for Dad?

Today Plugins
I kept the default TF3D, but with HDWall, because I love the eye-candy of the interface and I find it very intuitive to use. I have also tried other today plugins, such as PointUI Home 2, FEWidgetsUltimate and iPhonetoday, but none of them felt as smooth and easy to use as TF3D for me. Out of the other interfaces I tried I find FEWidgetsUltimate to be the best.
LINK - iPhoneToday
LINK - FEWidgetsUltimate
LINK - HDWall
LINK - PointUI
EDIT: On my previous device I tried SPB Mobile Shell - LINK

I also got rid of TF3D. IMHO that is eye candy for people who don't know how to use a computer - and that is still a large number of people out there using phones. W/o TF3D I get things quicker done and have more flexibility to set up the phone the way I use it best.

Aquila-169 said:
I kept the default TF3D, but with HDWall, because I love the eye-candy of the interface and I find it very intuitive to use. I have also tried other today plugins, such as PointUI Home 2, FEWidgetsUltimate and iPhonetoday, but none of them felt as smooth and easy to use as TF3D for me. Out of the other interfaces I tried I find FEWidgetsUltimate to be the best.
LINK - iPhoneToday
LINK - FEWidgetsUltimate
LINK - HDWall
LINK - PointUI
EDIT: On my previous device I tried SPB Mobile Shell - LINK
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Thanks for the link! HDWall and Mobileshell looks nice.

It is VERY usefull for me! I can't use without! I'm bored by WinMo interface.

I too found TF obtrusive and unintuitive so switched it off. I used to use SPB Mobile Shell on the Kaiser and liked it, but I'm a bit fed up of the way it doesn't integrate with Informant and Flexmail, so I'm back to the WM interface and don't miss all the bloat.

TF3D is too slow for my liking, any better options?

Hi all, its been a while since I posted but I am the former user of the 8125,8525, and 8925 (tilt) and haven't used a pocket pc phone since then. I had my stints with the Fuze & Touch HD but thats another story. Anyways Ive been using the iPhone 3g/3gs for the last year and I recently sold it to purchase the AT&T Tilt 2. I must say although the phone is very good looking and this is the best qwerty I have ever used, the phone lags and it is kinda slow especially comparing phones like the iPhone or BBerry Bold 2. What are my options in terms of Navigating the GUI without TF3D? I remember when I used to own my pocketpc's I used a program called "HTC Home" which was simple,fast, and efficient. Does that program still work on the Rhodium? Do I have any options of using something similar to the TF3d but faster? Or will changing my ROM make the difference up in speed? Let me know what you all think and thanks in advance. Also What does "Manilla" mean?

Dude there are so many ways to have a decent UI without manila go through a lot of the rom threads and read about each one, Most have light versions and a titanium version that eliminate tf3d completely. MANILA= TF3D they are one and the same as I see it, some people might get more technical with you but its like a tilt 2 and a touch pro 2 different names for basically the same thing, minus a few hardware differences when talking devices. Also Give SPB Mobile Shell a try, you can download a trial and if yuo like it can either purchase it or do one of those promotions and get it cheap o pm me and I'll let you know where to find it I myself love tf3d and cant wait till it becomes fully modifyable with the ability to make my own tabs for whatever we see fit, It will happen just gonna take a while and have some genius' coding things so quick links can be installed in the script with copy and paste so its easy for everyone to do. I think there may be a few other 3rd party UIs out there too, so just play around and see what fits you. And if you cant fully uninstall something its not like a hard reset cant be done! Always backup what you dont want to lose.

See here for HTC Home for WVGA/VGA devices.

Buy an HD2

Windows default "titanium" is also very customizable and much less RAM eating than TF3D.
I´ll stay with Manila 2.1 working very smooth for me

I really lost interest in this phone the more I used it - I found tf3d to be too slow... Rather than flash ROMS, I gave SPB Mobile Shell a try. It's awesome! I removed all items from the today screen and just run the shell.
Memory usage is different as well. Before I had to keep it under 50% to get the phone to run. With Mobile Shell I just keep opening programs up to 80% and the interface doesn't lag.
Give it a try...

Want a familiar and friendly (as well as FAAST) interface?
Google iPhoneToday. It's mimics the iPhone interface and is very easy to setup shortcuts and icons.
Simply go t your SETTINGS>TODAY button and disable TF3D and ENABLE iPhoneToday.
I love this interface much better as it's quick and to the point. Also less memory uses than TF3D