hi,
Sorry that i open a new thread for it but i hate the discussions about the numbers of buttons of the hd2 and WP7.
And i hate that microsoft isn't telling us the truth.
So,
The HD2 have 7 Buttons.
1. (On the left side) Volume (there are actually 2 buttons, but who cares )
2. (in the middle ) the Screen
3. Phone Button
4. Home Button
5. Start Button
6. Back Button
7. Power/Sleep Button
Let's take a look on the "UI Design and Interaction Guide for Windows Phone 7 Series" on page 20.
The WP7 have 7 Buttons.
1. (On top) Power/Sleep
2. (On the left side) Volume (again, two buttons)
3. The good old screen
4. (on the right side) the camera button
5. Back Button
6. Start Button
7. Search Button
So, the difference is the layout.
at windows mobile 7, the home and the start button would do the same, so one of the two buttons could be the search buttons and the windows mobile 7 dont use the phone buttons, so this could be the camera buttons.
sorry for the bad english .
starchildx
EDIT : if someone wants to see the guide here it is
as it has been said before, the reason isnt the buttons, but the hardware image scaler, and the presence of an sd card slot
Um... Count again?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
[edit]Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself since I don't actually own one. Doesn't the HD2 also have a dedicated power button (other than the End key) at the top of the phone? No?
Nope the "end" button is also the power button.
starchildx said:
i hate the discussions about the numbers of buttons of the hd2 and WP7.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And therefore you decided to start another one?
H3ALY said:
Nope the "end" button is also the power button.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hehe. Shows what I know.
So HTC just needs to send out a few stickers to cover the existing button labels along with the WM7 ROM upgrade
bedoig said:
Hehe. Shows what I know.
So HTC just needs to send out a few stickers to cover the existing button labels along with the WM7 ROM upgrade
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would be funny as hell if they did!
Come on ppl ... get over it .... It is getting old already.
At this moment in time, accept the fact ... Microsoft will not provide upgrade to HD2.
cchr said:
as it has been said before, the reason isnt the buttons, but the hardware image scaler, and the presence of an sd card slot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hd2 gpu has the image scaler , the reason of not getting the the update is financial not hardware at all
hoss_n2 said:
hd2 gpu has the image scaler , the reason of not getting the the update is financial not hardware at all
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if thats true, i agree, the reason is financial
yea cant post links,but if you google the detailed specs for the snapdragon chipset,qualcomm says that the gpu has an internal image scaler to auto scale images to the screen size and resolution
Related
Hi,
Does anyone know how to make applications close when you press the "OK" HARDWARE key? I've tried Switch, Magic Button and SPB. Each closes applications when I use the stylus to tap on the "x" or "ok" button on the screen, but only minimize apps when I press the "ok" hardware button.
(IMHO, it's rather silly of Microsoft and HTC not to make this possible by default. Especially as the call-end hardware button already does the job of minimizing applications and returning you to the today screen...)
Please advise.
Thanks.
tad2 said:
Hi,
Does anyone know how to make applications close when you press the "OK" HARDWARE key? I've tried Switch, Magic Button and SPB. Each closes applications when I use the stylus to tap on the "x" or "ok" button on the screen, but only minimize apps when I press the "ok" hardware button.
(IMHO, it's rather silly of Microsoft and HTC not to make this possible by default. Especially as the call-end hardware button already does the job of minimizing applications and returning you to the today screen...)
Please advise.
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been using the HTC Close Button cab on my Orbit.
Its a small app that really close the progs with the "X".
And this works very good!!
Coolgadget,
Thanks for that .........spot on, just what I've been looking for, why didn't O2 put that on as standard???
Rob
I use AE button plus (google) which allows me to map such functions to whatever button I choose.
The unregistered version is all that is needed.
CoolGadget said:
I've been using the HTC Close Button cab on my Orbit.
Its a small app that really close the progs with the "X".
And this works very good!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Coolgadget, thanksfor the cab, but I'm afraid it hasn't helped. It is behaving exactly as the oters did. Yes, it closes applications when you tap on the "X" on the screen, but it only minimizes the app when you press the "ok" HARDWARE button (emphasis on hardware, not on-screen). Could I be doing something wrong?
What I want is a way to actually close applications by pressing a hardware key (helps one handed operation when on the move).
Any idea, anyone?
uniqueboy said:
I use AE button plus (google) which allows me to map such functions to whatever button I choose.
The unregistered version is all that is needed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Uniqueboy, I just downloaded AE button, I'll let you know how it goes. From the literature, I think it might be the answer...
Thanks.
Just listening to some music, you will not be disappointed.
Dinarsoft HandySwitcher
http://www.dinarsoft.com/handyswitcher/
The mother of Task Manager software & Button3.
Task Manager
Pretty.
Clean.
Don't show big options item menu.
Can add some addition item menu or none.
Click [x] button to really exit application.
Show real icon from running application.
Hardware button (Button3) can really exit application.
[ok] is ok.
[x] is really exit application.
I can sleep tight now after reaserch 8 hrs. and reading many articles here.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
First off I appologize if this is in the wrong section but I didn't know where to start this thread as both the Topaz and Rhodium have a similar zoom bar above the hard keys, there may be other devices too so it would be great if we could develop such an application to work on all these devices which feature a pretty useless zoombar.
I used to own a Touch Pro (Raphael) and evolved to a new Touch Pro2 (Rhodium), the one thing I miss the most (besides the camera LED) is the D-Pad and Enter button.... when the phone is in portrait mode.
I think this image describes my idea pretty well:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I have no programming skills so I am seeking the great help of all the developers here on XDA. I hope some of you like my idea and post comments and hopefully someone will try and develop this for us to use.
It should have 5 main functions, slide Left, slide Right, tap Up, tap Down, & tap Enter.
What do you think?
im in the same boat, id love to see this come to life.
for the HTC Diamond its possible so it must be possible on this to !!
i'm all for it! i still cant understand the idea that htc had to remove the dpad! :S
anyone working on this?
while i get a touch diamond 2 for chrismas and my father owning a rhodium, we both would be amazed by this mod!
Making the ZoomBar work like Scroll Wheel
here you can maybe found something useful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594934
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512614
bump, this thread needs some serious attention from the developers, i would love a nice xmas gift in the form of this app
THIS WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY AWESOME/AMAZING/BAD ASS!!!! I really like the idea of it and how its shown in the pics on the actual touch pro2.. this def. needs to be developed cause it would be WOW!!
anyone have anything?
still waiting for a developer to see this
Close
just came upon this a few mins ago
its not what tommyr was looking for but it's a start
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578420
check it out.
This is what you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645475
i moved from the ppc 6700 apache witht ehexcelent joystick my wife had the mogul and now the touch pro with the dpad. I have the tp2 rhodium and that and the flash are the things i miss most. i actuaqlly did not want to upgrade from the apache to the tp2because the lack of the joystick. for a while itried everything and have given up and just got used to it the way it is. I still miss the one handed contro for reading articles on the web and making phone calls as well moving the cursor to where i wanted it. I sometimes am forced to open the keyboard and use the arrow keys. I used the rhodium keyboard control to assign the up down volume control and the power button as well as the mute button on the back but did not end up using it. i had tap double tap triple tap and press and hold. i tried the actual dpad on the screen but that didnt work for me. the other one that use the zoom control i didnt like becasue you had to slide this one looks much better and looks like it might work. i would be willing to donate to a developer who can make it happen
Just use the following regkeys
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\BubbleTiles]
"TextModeEnabled"=dword:00000001
"HardwareStartKeyEnabled"=dword:00000001
"HardwareDoneKeyEnabled"=dword:00000001
you legend! how you find that?
Enable text mode ?
You are a god!!!!
I made it into a cab and made a thread over at PPCG HERE
I gave you all the credit. Amazing find.
dwizzy130
fotone said:
Enable text mode ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It makes your softkeys like the ones on the HD Mini, ie no start icon and every button is text and not an icon.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
dwizzy130
Sweet find....
I'm a little bit late
Apparently everyone found this at the same time, lol. From the same place I bet, too . . .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5891195#post5891195
This is awesome. A few tweaks in the dialer and it's good to hook
On HD2, we do have hardware Start key (Win icon). But which one is the Done key?
So what do we use to exit a program or hit OK?
Phryme said:
So what do we use to exit a program or hit OK?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On the mini and HD2 that would be the back button. Not only for exit but also for the OK button.
Captain_Throwback said:
Apparently everyone found this at the same time, lol. From the same place I bet, too . . .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LoL, I guess that would be the RGU file in the ProjectDefault_B OEM folder of the MINI rom
appelflap said:
On the mini and HD2 that would be the back button. Not only for exit but also for the OK button.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i use the showcase (with sense 2.5), and i still can click the left part to show the start menu
appelflap said:
On the mini and HD2 that would be the back button. Not only for exit but also for the OK button.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does this work the same for Rhodium devices?
Psyki said:
Does this work the same for Rhodium devices?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes.
dwizzy130
Good find! Wishing that our blackstone would have the start key or remap home key as start key.
Possibly a silly question. But I've implemented these changes and have 'action' and 'Menu' softkeys instead of 'start', 'action' and 'menu'. How do you access start to get to your apps/tools etc
Fallen Spartan said:
Possibly a silly question. But I've implemented these changes and have 'action' and 'Menu' softkeys instead of 'start', 'action' and 'menu'. How do you access start to get to your apps/tools etc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does your TouchHD have a hardware startkey, if not then I wouldnt advise doing this!
B4PJS said:
Does your TouchHD have a hardware startkey, if not then I wouldnt advise doing this!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is what I figured which is why I switched it back.
Curiosity got the better of me
Sorry that makes no use for me becuase the Touch HD don't have a start button and I mapped the OK/Back button to exit the programme.
Hey guys
In most devices (eg htc trophy)
There is no physical button below the device to unlock, (When the device is in sleep mode) like the iPhone "home button" just touch keys
It's very annoying to reach up to sleep button to unlock.
What do you think?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I don't really see the hassle...
I have an Omnia 7 and i never wake the phone up using the windows key. I always hit the power key :S
Er....I'm confused, what's the problem?
I've an Omnia 7 and I always use the Window button to wake my phone (for example : just to use one finger when the phone is on the table !)
Freypal said:
I don't really see the hassle...
I have an Omnia 7 and i never wake the phone up using the windows key. I always hit the power key :S
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To Omnia 7 has a physical button like the iPhone "home button"
htc trophy does not have any
How is it so difficult just to press the power button?
andrewkeith5 said:
How is it so difficult just to press the power button?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's difficult and annoying
For example : takes out of pocket and want to check the time and return IT.
the device upside down, and sleep button in the pocket
Try doing it with one hand when you're on a bike...
IL200 said:
Try doing it with one hand when you're on a bike...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a Trophy and do it all the time, no hassle... on the bike and even while driving (don't quote me on this).
I have an HD7 which is bigger and it doesn't bother me..
Sent from my HTC HD7 using Board Express
IL200 said:
To Omnia 7 has a physical button like the iPhone "home button"
htc trophy does not have any
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which is exactly my point... My phone has one and I never use it. I had no problem on my old HTC Touch HD either.
Found this issue on my one X. The arrow/direction key seem to be gone from keyboard when using 3rd parties apps. (Whatsapp / Line / Facebook / Path / etc)
But it seem to be working fine on web browser, text message, google search widget and some other apps that came along with the phone.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Solutions I've tried
Setting > Apps > All > HTC Sense Input > Clear Data
*Yes it does help, but for only the very one first time after I came out from the apps and went back in they keyboard arrow/direction key is gone again.
Solution HTC support gave
Thank you for contacting HTC.
With reference to your query, we checked your attachment and inquiry, we would like provide following suggestions:
1. Power off your phone for 5 minutes and then resart your phone agian.
2. If the issue still persists, we would suggest you entre the safe mode to exclude some third parties' conflicts:
power off the device for one minute
Press " power button " to power on device until you see the htc logo
Then press and hold " Volume down key" until entering OS
" Safe Mode " text will appears on the lower left of screen.
Keep your phone in safe mode for one day and check whether the direction arrow atill keeps disappear. Thanks!
*But it is not doing any good
Kevin Tank
HTC One X (Malaysia)
It's apps which aren't ICS-optimised yet. The on-screen menu button covers the arrow keys on the keyboard.
hopscotchjunkie said:
It's apps which aren't ICS-optimised yet. The on-screen menu button covers the arrow keys on the keyboard.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hohoho~ seriously? thanks for killing my question mark.
HTC support mention they will past this issue to the technical department. And I'm still waiting their reply.
.
Thread moved to Q&A due to it being a question. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
kevintkh said:
HTC support mention they will past this issue to the technical department. And I'm still waiting their reply.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Be interesting to see what they say; whether it's intentional to not reduce screen area any further when both keyboard and menu button are displayed, or whether it's just badly designed.
Other keyboards with arrows (like SwiftKey) still display them along with the menu button (everything's just shifted a row up), so it's specific to HTC's keyboard design.