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is the only way rooting the desire?

Hi to all,
I got my desire last week and I am still finding out what all is possible and also what is not,..
so to make it short it is not possible to read any sites or mails written in farsi which is written with the arabic alphabet and from right to left.
on my last device the HTC Touch Pro (WM 6.5) I hade to install the font and implement it into the system so I could read and write latin and arbaic.
now reading a few posts and also googling the issue it seems to me that apperntly one has to root the device to install such a support on an android device.
my question is if that assumtion of mine is correct?
I realy don't want to root my device only because I have to read som farsi stuff on it but on the other hand I realy do have to read a lot of mails during the day.
thx
s.

Why don't you contact the HTC customer support?

Because your device only has support to the areas where he was sold on :S

I don't care if my device has ony support in theas areas,
the desire is not the cheapest mobile around and also targets at busniss users and journalists, and there for should support the read and wrirte in different languages specialy in thease globalized days. I am not asking for getting an Farsi device in germany but to have the abelity to read letters that are used by much more than 1,6 billion people.
every PC, windowMobile device, Linux macheane has this support with two or threee clicks.
it is a shame if that is not possible,..
s.

s.zamani said:
I don't care if my device has ony support in theas areas,
the desire is not the cheapest mobile around and also targets at busniss users and journalists, and there for should support the read and wrirte in different languages specialy in thease globalized days. I am not asking for getting an Farsi device in germany but to have the abelity to read letters that are used by much more than 1,6 billion people.
every PC, windowMobile device, Linux macheane has this support with two or threee clicks.
it is a shame if that is not possible,..
s.
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Seriously, contact HTC support.

JohnSteveDoe said:
Seriously, contact HTC support.
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thx,
I will contact HTC.
s.

Read / Write Arabic in Desire

Hi guys
It's been nearly 10 hours since i start searching in this great forum and around the internet for a solution to enable on my HTC desire to read arabic, and i finally came a at this page which will resolve the issue until we have an official full Arabic support from Google or HTC.
What you need is 2 things :
1 - Mirsal
http://android.azizus.info/?page_id=4
Application to let you read SMS in Arabic
2 - Ibrahim Keyboard (same great developer)
http://android.azizus.info/?page_id=20
Once you have both .. you'll be to read/write Arabic on your device.
Hope this can help your problem
Long live XDA-Developers
edit: if moderators can edit the subject into ( solution to read write Arabic in htc desire ) it will be better to help newbies.

Thanks much, greatly appreciated! (I'm still learning the rich language)
EDIT: still only recognizes Arabic input/text in SMS. Anywhere else and the language just shows up as boxes.
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- Sent via my HTC Desire -

same here ,I have Microsoft exchange and I am looking for a software that can display Arabic emails

Yes it will only enable arabic in SMS and Contact .. not the whole system
for Microsoft Exchange i dont know .. becaue GPRS is not workikng on my device, dont konw why
i'll try to make it work then try some applications to have arabic enabled on Exchange.
Salam

A few Desire questions

Hi, im thinking on buying the Desire but i have a few questions about it before i do so:
1. One thing that is bothering me is that i read theres no Divx support. As most of my files are AVI format, does it mean that if i wanna play my AVI format movies it wont play it? If thats true, is it going to change in the near future? ( which i really hope so)
2. Since it runs Android, does it mean i can forget about using MS Office and MS messenger or any other MS application?
thanks for any answer
3. Is there an option to use IGO 8 on the desire?

divx works great with rockplayer

Thanks for the answer.
Anyone else can answer my other 2 questions?

seriously you would rather take the time to create an xdadevs forum account than do some basic google searches?
1. already answered
2. there are many free msn clients. it comes with an app that can read Office file formats, but you want to create or edit documents you'll need to buy an app
3. doesn't look like it's available for WVGA officially..

mazinya said:
Hi, im thinking on buying the Desire but i have a few questions about it before i do so:
1. One thing that is bothering me is that i read theres no Divx support. As most of my files are AVI format, does it mean that if i wanna play my AVI format movies it wont play it? If thats true, is it going to change in the near future? ( which i really hope so)
2. Since it runs Android, does it mean i can forget about using MS Office and MS messenger or any other MS application?
thanks for any answer
3. Is there an option to use IGO 8 on the desire?
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2. There is quick office app present in the phone, you can use it to view office files. You need to buy documents to go or a similar application to be able to edit files.
3.igo is avaiable for android.

I read that HTC said there will be an update for Divx and 720p, but that was a few months ago, but i can see nothing is changed yet. It feels like it wont happen.

mazinya said:
I read that HTC said there will be an update for Divx and 720p, but that was a few months ago, but i can see nothing is changed yet. It feels like it wont happen.
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Nothing officially as yet from HTC.
However, we have 720p recording as part of the Froyo with Sense leak, and we have DivX via Rockplayer.
Regards,
Dave

I understand that there is also no Hebrew fonts for the Desire. I do not need the phone to have a Hebrew menus, but i would like to be able to write text messages or email in Hebrew and if i understood correctly, this is not possible unless i root the Desire (which i prefer not to) and install Hebrew fonts myself.
If all of the above is correct, is there a chance that Froyo will support Hebrew fonts?
Also, Is there an official date when Froyo will be out?

mazinya said:
I understand that there is also no Hebrew fonts for the Desire. I do not need the phone to have a Hebrew menus, but i would like to be able to write text messages or email in Hebrew and if i understood correctly, this is not possible unless i root the Desire (which i prefer not to) and install Hebrew fonts myself.
If all of the above is correct, is there a chance that Froyo will support Hebrew fonts?
Also, Is there an official date when Froyo will be out?
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[Face_palm] As stated in a previous post: 1. A forum search would find most if not all of your answers. 2. No official word from HTC as of yet, other than Q3 2010.

[Q] Arabic Support fro Desire HD 'ACE'

Greeting, I am expecting my ACE coming weekend, with full eagerness. Anybody managed to replace font files for this release to support Arabic language.

Hi. Its support Arabic but don't have rtl support yet. We need root for that...
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

You can use a program called 'Mirsal' in the meantime. It can read and write arabic text messages and it supports RTL. You do not even need root to install it!
For some reason it is no longer on the Android market, so you will have to google it.

prank1 said:
You can use a program called 'Mirsal' in the meantime. It can read and write arabic text messages and it supports RTL. You do not even need root to install it!
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its dont support on RTL, if you get/sand message with number, you will get them up side down, for exsample, 1234 will be 4321 and so...

liorra3 said:
its dont support on RTL, if you get/sand message with number, you will get them up side down, for exsample, 1234 will be 4321 and so...
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I don't know about numbers, but on my friends HTC Wildfire it can read and write arabic from right to left fine.

Appreciate your reply, however, the app [Mirsal] is just a workaround to the issue. We would like to incorporate the Arabic fonts natively on the device, like what was done on the Nexus One scenario. Actually latest news on N1, they added the Arabic support part of Cyanogen ROMs

Even if someone builds CM6 for the DHD, you won't be able to flash it, since we don't have full root
Sent from my HDfied HTC Desire

Thread moved to General.

Why don't you wait for it to hit the middle east? HTC said this so that costumers will get Arabic support unlike people who will buy the phone outside which won't be supported.This was a response from HTC MEA to someone who was planning to import the phone from UK

Hakimy said:
Why don't you wait for it to hit the middle east? HTC said this so that costumers will get Arabic support unlike people who will buy the phone outside which won't be supported.This was a response from HTC MEA to someone who was planning to import the phone from UK
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all the issue with the language was misunderstanding.
the froyo and the DHD is sopport hebrew and arabic fonts,
so we can write/read or see websites, sms and users in our language.
i issue is RTL support that missing, for exeple - if we writing numbers
we will see it up side down - 1234 will show as 4321 and so...

mind me for asking, cant we implement RTL VIA RUU like mentioned here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826465

This is a copy-paste from the Q&A tab from HandTec moderator
Details: dose the phone support arabic
by mmm78 @ 30/10/2010
1 Answers
A: Yes. This question has also been answered below.
by FRGMaker @ 01/11/2010
5 of 16 people (31%) found this answer helpful
Would you please verify if there is an Arabic language listed on the languages section?

xxbadrxx said:
This is a copy-paste from the Q&A tab from HandTec moderator
Details: dose the phone support arabic
by mmm78 @ 30/10/2010
1 Answers
A: Yes. This question has also been answered below.
by FRGMaker @ 01/11/2010
5 of 16 people (31%) found this answer helpful
Would you please verify if there is an Arabic language listed on the languages section?
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again and again and again - same answer.
yes it support Arabic front but he don't have LTR.

I'm not sure if this is relevant or not - especially as I'm not using a DHD - but on my Xperia X10 (UK generic 1.6) I use Handcent SMS. My girlfiend is from the UAE and I sometimes send her texts in Arabic and Handcent seems to support both Arabic font and RTL.
So maybe try Handcent SMS (available free on Market).
I appreciate I could be way off the mark here though so apologies if I've caused any confusion.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

hey guys,today i saw an htc desire hd is sold..anyways it says that it do support Arabic
http://www.elmazad.com/item/htc-desire-hd-brand-new-with-arabi/64013

liorra3 said:
again and again and again - same answer.
yes it support Arabic front but he don't have LTR.
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Froyo supports displaying the Arabic characters but not reshaping them.. so in case you are viewing Arabic text all the letters will be disconnected and not RTL.. hard to read.. in Hebrew as the letters don't need to be reshaped/connected it displays it fine but will get the reversing problem if a number is inserted.....
so the answer for the Arabic is no..
check this thread for a temp solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834683

PapaDocta said:
Froyo supports displaying the Arabic characters but not reshaping them.. so in case you are viewing Arabic text all the letters will be disconnected and not RTL.. hard to read.. in Hebrew as the letters don't need to be reshaped/connected it displays it fine but will get the reversing problem if a number is inserted.....
so the answer for the Arabic is no..
check this thread for a temp solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834683
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Arabic now is supported by @alsanad

My DHD, bought in Canada, reads Arabic RTL the only problem is that the letters are disconnected. Supposedly Gingerbread will sort this out, whenever it hits the DHD that is.

if you have root you can flash CynogenMod 7 gingerbread and it has full arabic support with connected letters
that's the only one i found so far.

Google gray me

[Q] Greek SMS with 70 characters limit

Hello everyone!
I have the usual problem with the system limiting my SMSs to 70 characters when using the Greek alphabet.... Someone suggested on the Smart Keyboard forum (http://www.dexilog.com/smartkeyboard/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=970&p=4484#p4484) that HTC has solved this. But for me, the problem persists in a weird way:
-Of course I type in all caps
-If I use any letters that are specific to the Greek alphabet (Ψ,Ω,Δ,Λ,Σ etc) the limit stays at 160 characters
-If I type a letter that is common to the latin alphabet it drops to 70 characters!
It's strange, but I haven't seen much talk about this issue here, though it was a big topic in WinMo discussions (WM has the same problem).
So:
-Can someone verify whether or not HTC has fixed this?
-Does anyone have a suggestion?
Using RevolutionHD 2.09 with 1.72.405.3 .
Thanks!
T

Anyone?.... I also tried the IME mod v27 to no avail...

Goodmorning my friend,
Unfortunately my friend you have to use the ACE HELLAS solution for this, which is a "top secret" info, they will never help you out with this.
Had the same problem with my previous phone (HTC Legend), and ended up using SlideIT with Greek add-on, which I remember that worked for SMS (ofcourse always caps). Give it a try and let me know.
In case you really need Greek, and you are willing to come back to ACE HELLAS stock, I can Nandroid mine when it comes back from service and upload the ROM for you.
Konstantinos

dragunov said:
Goodmorning my friend,
Unfortunately my friend you have to use the ACE HELLAS solution for this, which is a "top secret" info, they will never help you out with this.
Had the same problem with my previous phone (HTC Legend), and ended up using SlideIT with Greek add-on, which I remember that worked for SMS (ofcourse always caps). Give it a try and let me know.
In case you really need Greek, and you are willing to come back to ACE HELLAS stock, I can Nandroid mine when it comes back from service and upload the ROM for you.
Konstantinos
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Good morning Kostantinos,
Thanks so much for taking the time to reply... I can't believe we're in the same s#!+ with Ace Hellas once more - it was the exact same situation some 4 years ago when I got my TytnII! Of course this is not the sign of a serious company (speaking both for HTC and ACE) since the fix should have found its way upwards and be included in the stock HTC ROMs.... but I digress.
I'm running a custom ROM, so I wouldn't want to go back to a stock one, but I guess that this could be rectified by just grabbing the relevant apk(s)?
Also,thanks for the SlideIt kb. I had tried it, but didn't remember it fixes the problem - will try again.
Thanks again, and have a great day,
Themis

I will let you know regarding APKs after I root my DHD, as soon as I receive it back from service (the blur picture left part camera issue).
Until then, you can also "dig" information and try the new Swype beta for DHD as well, but I dont think it supports Greek at the moment (not sure). If I find anything I will send you a link.
Yes, the problem is really frustrating, but at least the WM problem was a single HTC_ime.cab file, which worked in almost all devices. In Android it is a real pain in the arse!!! That is why I still stick with the stock ROM.
After 3 years of upgrading Android OSs, this problem should have been fixed generically, from the box.

OK, you can try here... NOT tested, but you have chances to work

Thanks - I'll take you up on your offer, so please do forgive me if I bother you with a PM in a few days
Swype doesn't have Greek - at least didn't have the last time I tried it, so it's a no-go, but SlideIt is good enough I think - it's just that it's totally different and i happen to like the HTC Kyboard
Was it an IME cab for WM? I seem to remember it was a keyboard cab. And it seems to be the same here - there are messaging apps (call me Handcent) that solve it with the stock keyboard, but there are also third-party kb's that solve it with the stok messaging app! So it seems it can be fixed two-ways... If I could help in any way with digging into the ROM please do let me know!
Oh, just got a notification about your second post in a row - wow, it includes Greek! Lemme grab it, quick
Thanks once more mate, it's strange how not more people discuss this issue (time to visit the ACE Hellas fora again after several years I think! ).
Cheers
T
dragunov said:
I will let you know regarding APKs after I root my DHD, as soon as I receive it back from service (the blur picture left part camera issue).
Until then, you can also "dig" information and try the new Swype beta for DHD as well, but I dont think it supports Greek at the moment (not sure). If I find anything I will send you a link.
Yes, the problem is really frustrating, but at least the WM problem was a single HTC_ime.cab file, which worked in almost all devices. In Android it is a real pain in the arse!!! That is why I still stick with the stock ROM.
After 3 years of upgrading Android OSs, this problem should have been fixed generically, from the box.
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Ahhh yes I remembered the problem with Swype: it FCs whenever you switch languages... so kinda useless
[edit] and, also, it doesn't solve the 70-char issue, it's exactly the same. Gonna try SLideIt.
[Edit2] ..aaand SlideIt does the same as well.

dragunov said:
I will let you know regarding APKs after I root my DHD, as soon as I receive it back from service (the blur picture left part camera issue).
Until then, you can also "dig" information and try the new Swype beta for DHD as well, but I dont think it supports Greek at the moment (not sure). If I find anything I will send you a link.
Yes, the problem is really frustrating, but at least the WM problem was a single HTC_ime.cab file, which worked in almost all devices. In Android it is a real pain in the arse!!! That is why I still stick with the stock ROM.
After 3 years of upgrading Android OSs, this problem should have been fixed generically, from the box.
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My dear friend can you send me the HTC_ime.cab file or tell me where can I find it? I have the exact same problem with my wm6.5 phone! I don't want to use the solution with the remapped keyboards!

Number of Characters has to do with Unicode or GSM Alphabet?