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I have a P3300 with a Norwegian rom (WM5).
I use the software keyboard a lot, but I would like to use the one with the big keys.
When I have the keyboard with the big keys, I cannot find the following two signs: ! ?
Do any of you know where they are, or (if they are indeed missing) a way to customize the keyboard so that I can have access to those highly essential signs...?
I would hate to have to use the keyboard with small keys...
All... I will be staring development of a D-Pad SIP for free release on this board in the next week... I will release as soon as I have something that is functional. Here are the initial features... please use this space to suggest others...
Four (Top,bottom,right left) buttons plus optional center
Special zone button for switching to user defined standard keyboard
D-SIP Toggled via any assignable button sequence (will play well with apps like Mobile Magic)
user definable gestures support
I will add accepted features to this list above with a 'Phase' (e.g. planned for release 1,2 or eventually)
Blessings one and all -- My Christmas gift to you
abeery said:
All... I will be staring development of a D-Pad SIP for free release on this board in the next week... I will release as soon as I have something that is functional. Here are the initial features... please use this space to suggest others...
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Blessings one and all -- My Christmas gift to you
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That seems to be a very nice Christmas gift! You will make many users of Touch HD very happy. Thanks for your effort.
One suggestion:
If possible I would like to get continuous signal and user defined repeat rate as well as user defined delay until repetition begins (just like hardware dpad can be calibrated via settings).
Thanks in advance.
Hmm, it will be hard to enable it in applications wich doesnt support SIP's such as games
Maybe it is possible to run a application in a "640x480"px Frame and to use the 160pixel at the bottom for a D-Pad...
Would be nics to add in a rotation button, I don't like how gsen and gyrator mess up my screen when I don't want it to. Also Might come in handy a clear 4 way pad to be use ingame, left or right of the screen, maybe that is a little too much to ask for?
Koffein Schluck said:
Hmm, it will be hard to enable it in applications wich doesnt support SIP's such as games
Maybe it is possible to run a application in a "640x480"px Frame and to use the 160pixel at the bottom for a D-Pad...
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My hope is to add a option to force a 640x480 resolution for "configured" applications and then use the freed 160px for the D-Pad... in non-configured apps it would function like any other SIP. Still researching my approach
consider adding the buttons for Cut Copy and Paste
sounds like a great idea! hope it works
The 2 hardware keys (left and right) for the selection of the soft menus are a must!
I am a bit confused maybe due to lack of my knowledge of exactly what configuration this new SIP will carry. My confusion is because if you happen to see the Cootek TouchPal it already has a tab which gives you navigation options such as top, bottom, left, Right, select, cut and copy.
How is your SIP going to be different from TouchPal.
Regards
srmz said:
I am a bit confused maybe due to lack of my knowledge of exactly what configuration this new SIP will carry. My confusion is because if you happen to see the Cootek TouchPal it already has a tab which gives you navigation options such as top, bottom, left, Right, select, cut and copy.
How is your SIP going to be different from TouchPal.
Regards
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I guess the goal of this SIP is to be available in all applications (e.g. games) that usually depend on some hardware buttons to be playable and not just the ones that activate a SIP for input by default like SMS, Email etc.
One suggestion would be to have 8 directions on the virtual pad. On a real dpad you can press 2 directions simultaneously (useful in games) however the resistive screen means that there would only be one key press at a time.
Sorry for my ignorance...i am very new to WinMo phone.
Can anyone tell me what is SIP and how it is going to work?
By the way there is a software called AEBplus which can configured the hardware Vol up/down for HD, is it going to be similiar?
razorblader said:
I guess the goal of this SIP is to be available in all applications (e.g. games)
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As the most games I know use their own keyboard implementation, a SIP won't work for them. SIP will just for most applications, rather the ones, where you see the "keyboard icon" in the bottom, where you can change the keyboard and make some settings.
Looking forward to it
I think a good starting point could be to create a full screen application (a sort of container) with a sidebar implementing the Dpad that emulates an hardware pad + some buttons and a 'window' 640x480px where other applications can run.
In this mode it should be possible to generate the standard Windows messages when a soft-key is hit so that the windowed application could be fooled thinking that the user is acting on a true Dpad/key.
Bye
So it will work with for example pocket gba emulator ?
Wolfenzi said:
So it will work with for example pocket gba emulator ?
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Something like this allready exist, google MorphGear
it will work with PPC Games better than GBA
any news on this project?
Same question here. I am waiting for this as the most important thing for Touch HD on this forum. I want arrow keys in my age of empires to move map
By the way : If you can, you should do that virtual pad fully configurable, like morphgear has (text file with functions and color numbers and bmp picture with those colors on certain places + copy of that but in colors that will be displayed)
I'm still experimenting with various approaches... unfortunately it seems like the most viable approach will involve the four softkeys at the bottom of the device... everything else I try only works when I can force a SIP to be present and unfortunately it seems that the times I want a D-Pad SIP the most are the apps that make this difficult... BTW... if anyone has a code sample for reassigning the HomeKey send me a PM please. For now all I can say is please continue to have patience... I'm still working on making a solution available
I use XPERIA and I need numeric keyboard. I didn't find it, but I wrote it. It's free.
Unlike many software input methods Phone Keypad covers large screen area
and has keys that are large enough to be typed with finger-tips, not with
a stylus. It is very handy for entering numbers. Phone Keypad also features
a close interaction with other Pocket PC programs. It runs as an input method
in Soft Input Panel (SIP), Pocket PC native technique for entering text.
I can be safely removed. Simple uninstall, without restart.
Future plans:
Your suggestions welcome.
Screenshot portrait and landscape is attached. These bitmaps is used as keyboard layout and may be changed, if you create any better.
Sounds nice, but do you have any screenshot of it?
Screenshots
yeah, screenshits will be great. just to know what were installing, because i'm tires of installing things that replace the original stuff, and have to hard reset to get back.
arci01 said:
I use XPERIA and I need numeric keyboard. I didn't find it, but I wrote it. It's free.
Unlike many software input methods Phone Keypad covers large screen area
and has keys that are large enough to be typed with finger-tips, not with
a stylus. It is very handy for entering numbers. Phone Keypad also features
a close interaction with other Pocket PC programs. It runs as an input method
in Soft Input Panel (SIP), Pocket PC native technique for entering text.
Future plans:
Your suggestions welcome.
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Oh, this is just awesome! Exactly what I made a thread about a week ago, although no one bothered to answer me. I'll install in a few minutes.
Suggestion: I'm swedish, and in the swedish language the letters å, ä and ö features prominently. Is it possible to map this to get swedish letters too, like on swedish cell phones? Å and Ä appears when you press the number 2, since it's the button used for the letter A, because Å and Ä carries resemblance to A. With Ö, it's mapped to appear at number 6, since it's similar to an O. Please consider this
screenie please
this very good idea.and it looks perfect.could you please put english letters as well?if you can make it like nokia keypad that would be lovely.good work mate.thanks.
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screenshits
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Be careful...
Amazing idea Arci01, but please let me make some positive suggestions:
1- add some screenshots, I recommend "cap sure": simple, free and small screen capturing app
2- you can improve the thread's title description following XDA-DEVS rules: [UTIL][10 APR 09] Phone (numeric only) Keypad of WVGA screens
This way more users will be aware (and interested) of thread contents
You can edit the thread's title by clicking "edit" (lower right corner) and then clicking "go advanced"
I use tinypic.com to upload screenshots taken with "cap sure", then I link them in my posts
Hope my 2 cents help
And again: congrats for your great contribution to the community
This SIP keyboard don't replace any installed software and can be safely removed. Simple uninstall it.
nice, very nice indeed..
I Don't suppose you want to carry on and create a full KB? it looks really good..
@arci01
Excellent work - and it is NOT black !!
I think it's good to have like this software.
quick question before i try this, does this mess up the SIP? (au button, word suggestions and such)
Looking good anyway
Hello,
since WM6.5.3 the standard Controls like Buttons, Comboboxes, TabControls, Checkboxes etc. have a new Style with gradient Backgrounds and sometimes rounded edges.
If you develop programs with the .NET CF you will get the boring old style. Is there any way to enable the new style for .NET applications?
The only thing I found was this "hack" for the TabControl:
mobileworld.appamundi.com/blogs/peterfoot/archive/2009/09/17/windows-mobile-6-5-tab-control.aspx
(sorry, seems that I'm not allowed to post outside links)
I searched a lot for this but even the documentation from Microsoft gives no hint how to do this.
There is also a new control in many system control panels which replaces the TabControl (the navigation thing at top of the form for example in sounds and notification settings). Is there any chance to use this control in my own programs?
It is really annoying that Microsoft has developed a new themeable style for their controls and nobody can use it
Thanks a lot
Markus
You can but it requires overriding the controls paint events and imo is not worth the hassle. If you want fancy looking controls then you would be better off with 3rd party controls. There's several options out there and some are free. Read about some at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616838
If you want to work with the native controls and spruce them up a bit check out http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/uiframework for some guidance.
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You can but it requires overriding the controls paint events and imo is not orth the hassle.
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thanks for your answer but I don't want to create custom controls or use some 3rd party controls. I want to use the standard controls but with the WM6.5.x style.
Microsoft is really stupid. They were on a good way with 6.5.x. The user interface of the standard apps is mostly consistent and finger friendly. But they forget 3rd party developers now completely. I want to be able to create apps with the system look and feel but it seems that it is not possible. So my own applications have always an inconsistent look when I use standard controls. I always get the old style but when I open a messagebox then I get buttons in the new style.
Microsoft, this is really crap!
You'll have to wait for Windows Phone 7 if you want perfect consistency. Microsoft isn't going to update the controls for 6.5.
Hey there!
Today I did some research into controls, and I found out how to enable 6.5.3 style for buttons and checkboxes. You have to:
edit2: for dialogs - open .rc file in a text editor, and find your dialog, then after a line beggining with STYLE add a line with following contents:
Code:
EXSTYLE 0x1800000
Compile it and run. You should get 6.5.3 look and feel on existing controls without changing them!
Or if you want to create controls in runtime (works good for buttons, checkboxes/radio buttons look ugly):
1) call SHInitExtraControls()
2) when creating a button/checkbox use class TTBUTTON and make sure its style is combined with 0x8000
3) Use 'em like normal buttons.
Now it's time for listboxes & others...
edit2: To mimic 6.5.3 listbox behavior you have to set item height to 64 (or 32 for (W)QVGA), for example in this way:
Code:
SendDlgItemMessage(hwndDlg, IDC_COMBO1, CB_SETITEMHEIGHT, -1, 64);
SendDlgItemMessage(hwndDlg, IDC_COMBO1, CB_SETITEMHEIGHT, 0, 64);
To expand list views, use a empty image list with a proper image height (64 or 32), for example:
Code:
HIMAGELIST il;
il = ImageList_Create(1, 64, ILC_COLOR, 0, 1);
SendDlgItemMessage(hwnd, IDC_LIST1, LVM_SETIMAGELIST, LVSIL_SMALL, (LPARAM) il);
edit: Oops, forgot you want it in .NET. Quick investigation lead me to a sad fact: .NET controls have the wrong window class. But if .NET dialogs are stored in resources there is hope. So I would be grateful if someone post here a compiled .NET application which would show a dialog with a button linked to some simple action. I might try to modify it for 6.5.3 style.
I have created a win32 API for C++ that mimics HTC's Sense UI Look 'n Feel... More informations on my website: charlie-soft.com
DOCUMENTATION : http://charlie-soft.com/Software/Manila_SDK/html/
This SDK is designed for speed: .NET applications are usually very slow to load and not fluid. I use some tricks to improve speed, like drawing only area having changes, scrolling without backbuffer or creating textures for text (GDI text drawing was slower…).
What’s in the box:
PNG resources for VGA/WVGA. They can be easily modified. SDK will resize automatically the resources if your device has a smaller (or higher) resolution!
Design your app for VGA, the SDK will adjust the layout for other resolutions!
Full Finger Control.
Source files (.cpp and .h) of library.
Source files of example.
Class:
MyEditControl: Edit box with different width. Easy get and set text. SIP detection: scroll Edit area.
MyItem: Button (3 types), checkboxes and switch (TripleState!). Event on click, visibility and state can be changed/get easily.
MyPanel : This element is not visible but is used to bring together elements. This element can have a title and dotted separator between each element.
ChildSection : Contains a subsection which is displayed with a sliding effect.
MyLabel: Print text with different font and color.
MyPictureBox: To print image (png, jpg, bmp, gif…)
MySelector: Like the HTML select. Scroll screen if list is out of screen (see video below).
Section: A section is a panel which can be scrolled up/down. It contains the different elements.
MessageBoxSense: Four type of messagebox: info, Ok/Cancel, Abort/Retry and Yes/No.
MySlider: A simple slider of any size... The min and max values can be changed easily, as the cursor position.
Change log
V1.6.4
Added the possibility of multilines in edit control
V1.6.3
Added possibility to add picture to slider of ChildSection...[bug solved]
Explorer bug solved
V1.6.2
Added an event when user click on screen...
V1.6.1
Memory usage improved
V1.6
Loading of image is now safe (use video memory by default but if problems use device memory)
File Explorer
Icons
Speed and memory improvement
V1.5
just add possibility to change color of text for hover and selected...
Minor bug changes:
items out of screen no longer try to redraw
text of items recompute their size when changing
background color is correctly changed
The SDK is now multi thread safe!
Add the possibility to right clicks (long press)
Add the possibility to hook windows message (WM_ACTIVATE for example)
Add the possibility to have a bottom bar.
Add the possibility to have a background image (landscape and portrait).
If the app is allready started, close the new instance and show the previous one.
MySelector can be scrolled if the list is too long.
Text is now printed with alpha transparency.
Compatible with any character (hebrew, vietnamese...).
MyPictureBox can now be stretched.
Memory usage reduced.
V1.4
Minor bugs fixed
Add the possibility to show MessageBox without a main application.
V1.3
Background can be transparent ! (see this app for demo)
Native drawing (DirectDraw was too slow in landscape)
Slider can have a force feedback (see this app for demo)
V1.2
MySlider added
drawing process rewrited: less redraw->less computation->less CPU utilization -> battery consumption reduced
Loading optimisation
The layout is now independent of screen resolution!
top taskbar is occassionally cleared [fixed]
White screen, touching the panel brings it back [fixed]
landscape items position incorrect [fixed]
V1.1
landscape compatible
Abort/Retry added to MessageBoxSense
TripleState Checkboxes and OnOffItems added
FAQ
is QVGA resolution supported?
Yes, SDK will find the correct resolution and select the appropriate resource resolution. The SDK will delete the other resources...
have you planned to extend MessageBox types to Abort/Retry?
Yes, to create one:
MessageBoxSense::show(L"Hello",L"Try again ?", MESSAGE_ABORTRETRY);
is this landscape compatible?
Yes but having refresh rate issue. Seems to be a DirectDraw problem (S2U2 was subject to the same issue...)
If someone know how to solve this problem, send me a message !
Back button too slow.
You can change the speed anim using this function: changeSpeed(double nbMilisecond)
why aren't you including some TripleState Checkboxes and OnOffItems ?
Both are now included:
new MyItem(1,5,15,ITEM_IS_CHECKBOX,ITEM_THIRD_STATE,L"My third checkbox (Third state)");
Other apps
Wake on Wan is a new app which use this SDK. Sources are available!
Quick shutdown is a software which use this SDK too. It can turn off, restart or set the phone in sleep mode. Sources are also available!
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Sense SDK win32 C++
For informations about SDK (installation, use compile...), see here: http://charlie-soft.com/Software/Manila_SDK/html/
Good work ! thanks for sharing hope devs will use it.
Hello my friend !
Great work !
( C'était exactement ce que je cherchais en c++ pour mes MFC smart device !!! )
Great Work, Thx for the source!!
Really great work!
but I have two questions:
- is QVGA resolution supported?
- have you planned to extend MessageBox types to Abort/Retry?
thank you
regards
NIce work
Altough i don't really know what todo with it... i instalt the example.cab and it was really smooth!
Only one thing if i go to other controls and i want to change the value then the onscreen keyboard should show up right? But it doesn't.... So i slide my qwerty keyboard open, and in landscape i get an error message: DDERR_SURFACELOST(back buffer)
I dont know what it means... is this landscape compatible?
Good job man !
Nice works !
I just have a feedback, I find too slow the animation when you click on the "back" button, is there is a way to speed it up ? (or disable simply the animation)
SDK Manila
Hello all !
I will try to answer all your questions. So :
- is QVGA resolution supported?
No but easy to implement... Just resize resources to correct resolution. I will post resources shortly.
- have you planned to extend MessageBox types to Abort/Retry?
If it's something wanted, I will do it.
- is this landscape compatible?
No, not yet. But will be in next release!
-Back button too slow.
I will add a method to set the speed of animation... in the next release
-Bug with hardware keyboard
The onscreen keyboard don't show up and I don't know why... I will look around for a fix.
If a developer wants to translate .NET applications into C++, feel free to post I will try to help you!
There is still lot of work, but I will try to do this quickly!
petititi said:
- have you planned to extend MessageBox types to Abort/Retry?
If it's something wanted, I will do it.
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thank you for quick reply. I need this extension for my app "htc menu loader" (link in signature) to migrate from .net to c++
again, really great work. You are making something that HTC should have done months ago.
Great project !
I don't know if you notice but I disabled the bottom taskbar... Do you think that I should add the possibility to enabled it? I saw that your application needed one...
I hope you will find my SDK easy to use !
Hey, this looks awesome.
Question though: I'm just shy of clueless when it comes to making an actual working app. Is there any place I can go to read/learn the coding I will need to actually use this?
Application win32 c++
You can use the example application included into the SDK to learn basic stuff or you can download this application: WakeOnWan. It’s based on my SDK (here are the sources).
You need some basic knowledge about Object-oriented programming and C language. I try to explain how to use the SDK in the example using comments or on my webpage.
I will also post a short tuto in second post...
Very, very nice! The demo runs very smoothly on my stock Touch Pro 2.
petititi said:
You can use the example application included into the SDK to learn basic stuff or you can download this application: WakeOnWan. It’s based on my SDK (here are the sources).
You need some basic knowledge about Object-oriented programming and C language. I try to explain how to use the SDK in the example using comments or on my webpage.
I will also post a short tuto in second post...
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Awesome thanks!
What's sad, is when I was young, I used to be able to code in C. Made my first video game when I was 6 on a Commodore 64 (ok i dated myself here) Now, can't remember very much
C++ ? It's just like riding a bike!
Hatefly said:
Awesome thanks!
What's sad, is when I was young, I used to be able to code in C. Made my first video game when I was 6 on a Commodore 64 (ok i dated myself here) Now, can't remember very much
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I'm sure you can!
It's just like riding a bike - you never really forget how. And we are here to help you to refresh your memory.
petititi said:
I'm sure you can!
It's just like riding a bike - you never really forget how. And we are here to help you to refresh your memory.
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Sweet thanks! Just downloaded an ebook on c programing.
Sounds (and looks) great, although there are still to many glitches (like not working in landscape etc.) which are preventing me from using this package.
But I have one question, why aren't you (all) including some TripleState Checkboxes and OnOffItems ?
I need them often but you cant find such controls online - not to speak of sense.
TripleState Checkboxes ?
Hello,
the TripleState Checkboxes is a simple feature I can add. To be sure, TripleState Checkboxes will looks like:
And tripleState On/Off:
I will include them in the next release... Be patient, the next release is coming soon and adds support for portrait and fixes a few bugs...