When I watch normal movies in SD resolution (mostly XviD) the playback isn't 100% smooth. I'm using CorePlayer and when I do a benchmark I about 105%.
On my old Samsung i780 it was never a problem watching movies and the benchmarks always got at least 150%.
I've been told that this is because bad video drivers on the TP2. Is this correct? And is it possible to fix this?
Or are there better players than CorePlayer?
I dont want to convert the files to lower resolution/quality or something like that.
djr83 said:
When I watch normal movies in SD resolution (mostly XviD) the playback isn't 100% smooth. I'm using CorePlayer and when I do a benchmark I about 105%.
On my old Samsung i780 it was never a problem watching movies and the benchmarks always got at least 150%.
I've been told that this is because bad video drivers on the TP2. Is this correct? And is it possible to fix this?
Or are there better players than CorePlayer?
I dont want to convert the files to lower resolution/quality or something like that.
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You can try the drivers found in THIS thread...they seemed to improve playback for me in the divx player, though I've not tried coreplayer yet. But, I still think the TP2 still seems to lack a little bit in this area.
(and despite the title of the thread, they're actually OpenGL drivers, not D3D, as explained later in the thread)
sirphunkee said:
You can try the drivers found in THIS thread...they seemed to improve playback for me in the divx player, though I've not tried coreplayer yet. But, I still think the TP2 still seems to lack a little bit in this area.
(and despite the title of the thread, they're actually OpenGL drivers, not D3D, as explained later in the thread)
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I already have that driver installed and it helps a lot in the demo but haven't really noticed any difference in any real program. And not in CorePlayer.
djr83 said:
I already have that driver installed and it helps a lot in the demo but haven't really noticed any difference in any real program. And not in CorePlayer.
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Understood, just wanted to make sure you knew about them
The only other thing I might suggest is switching off TF3D before playing the vid, I don't know if it'll help, but it's worth a try.
sirphunkee said:
Understood, just wanted to make sure you knew about them
The only other thing I might suggest is switching off TF3D before playing the vid, I don't know if it'll help, but it's worth a try.
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Already running vanilla WM so no luck there either
TCPMP GF5500 Edition
I am using Core player/TCPMP GF5500 Edition. But instead of using DirectDraw, I am using GDI settings.
Follow this: Options -> Video -> GDI
And then this: Options -> Settings -> Select Page -> DirectDraw -> and select option 2 and 3
This should work for you on TP2.
Doesnt work for me. With GDI I get 54% in benchmark and with DD I only get 25%.
Coreplayer uses Qtv drivers, or their version of them, because htc has custom ones for the qualcomm processor. Therefore it is not as good as another device which has access to good drivers for its video accelerator. The best video player for the phone is the Album program from HTC, it uses the real Qtv drivers and i always get really good framerate with MP4s. I mean, as far as i know this is the case. Make sure your coreplayer version has the Qtv driver, use it instead of GDI or DD, or it will be bad quality.
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Coreplayer uses Qtv drivers, or their version of them, because htc has custom ones for the qualcomm processor. Therefore it is not as good as another device which has access to good drivers for its video accelerator. The best video player for the phone is the Album program from HTC, it uses the real Qtv drivers and i always get really good framerate with MP4s. I mean, as far as i know this is the case. Make sure your coreplayer version has the Qtv driver, use it instead of GDI or DD, or it will be bad quality.
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Yes, I use Qtv but that only gets right above 100% in benchmark which means it will not be smooth playback all the time. Not the end of the world, but still annoying since my old phone played all my files perfectly with CorePlayer.
Album is not an option since I dont even have that installed and I dont want to convert all videos to mp4.
Album also doesn't remember the play position per video file, so playback always starts at the beginning of the video. Even my Blackberry would at least resume each video wherever I stopped it the last time it was played.
well unfortunately, until HTC allows access to the Qtv drivers, which will be never, coreplayer will not be very good. ive made peace with that and am gonna jump onto the HD2 later this month.
Too bad. But wont the HD2 be as bad as any other HTC phone at video playback? Ok, it has a faster CPU so maybe it will be good anyway, but the driver problem remains I guess?
Have you tried messing with the buffer settings?
Menu->Tools->Settings->Select Page->Buffering
This helped. But is still a bit laggy.
Strange though... just ran a benchmark on an xvid and it was in super slow motion 62.69% speed. But plays fine when i play video normally
Anyways,
I have buffer setting like this:
Normal buffer size - 6400kb
preload at underrun - 70%
Preload for audio - 6400kb
Low delay streaming - unchecked
Microdrive mode - Checked
Microdrive buffer size - 16000kb
Microdrive starts at - 6400kb
I get fairly good playback. Little laggy when it comes to fast passed videos. But overall its watchable IMHO
I just did a benchmark and got this, om my TP2 with latest Jackos S2 rom
Benchmark Result from avi xvid file 699MB, f/s 25
Avrg speed: 126.92%
Video Frames: 6242
Audio Samples: 11059165
Amount Data: 27775KB
Bench time: 03:16.720
Bench Frame rate: 31.730
Bench sample rate: 56217
Bench data rate: 1.16Mbit/s
Original Time: 04:09.680
Original Frame rate: 25.000
Original sample rate:44100
Original data rate: 911kbit/s
antoine_32 said:
I just did a benchmark and got this, om my TP2 with latest Jackos S2 rom
Benchmark Result from avi xvid file 699MB, f/s 25
Avrg speed: 126.92%
Video Frames: 6242
Audio Samples: 11059165
Amount Data: 27775KB
Bench time: 03:16.720
Bench Frame rate: 31.730
Bench sample rate: 56217
Bench data rate: 1.16Mbit/s
Original Time: 04:09.680
Original Frame rate: 25.000
Original sample rate:44100
Original data rate: 911kbit/s
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How did you get that? Every avi xvid video i play seems to only get around 60% speed
Fin9ers said:
Have you tried messing with the buffer settings?
Menu->Tools->Settings->Select Page->Buffering
This helped. But is still a bit laggy.
Strange though... just ran a benchmark on an xvid and it was in super slow motion 62.69% speed. But plays fine when i play video normally
Anyways,
I have buffer setting like this:
Normal buffer size - 6400kb
preload at underrun - 70%
Preload for audio - 6400kb
Low delay streaming - unchecked
Microdrive mode - Checked
Microdrive buffer size - 16000kb
Microdrive starts at - 6400kb
I get fairly good playback. Little laggy when it comes to fast passed videos. But overall its watchable IMHO
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A little better. I get 112-118% in benchmark. I'll try to watch a movie with these settings soon.
My latest benchmark:
Average Speed: 112.70%
Video Frames: 1976
Audio Samples: 3842500
Amount of Data: 13303 KB
Bench. Time: 01:10.131
Bench. Frame Rate: 28.176
Bench. Sample Rate: 54790
Bench. Data Rate: 1.55 Mbit/s
Original Time: 01:19.040
Original Frame Rate: 25.000
Original Sample Rate: 48000
Original Data Rate: 1.38 Mbit/s
Fin9ers said:
How did you get that? Every avi xvid video i play seems to only get around 60% speed
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Are you use Qtv with TyTN II drivers enabled?
djr83 said:
Are you use Qtv with TyTN II drivers enabled?
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Yup,
but every benchmark i do on any avi xvid still get same results...
when i watch normally its fine. just does the super slow motion thing when i benchmark
Im using Coreplayer with default settings (plays better than TCPMP) , when I was using another ROM (Timor .91) i got better results, about 140% average speed.
here is another quick bechmark
We should compare our results using the same video. Which video should we choose?
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Howdy all. I have been doing some research and found out about an ATI issue that causes/ed problems. I am running VP3G 2.0.1H and have downloaded the TCPMP 0.72 RC1. Do i still need this ATI fix? I believe the ROM I am running does include this fix though.
I ask this because i already have *.avi of shows and movies and they all have a few minimal frame rate, somewhere around .5 i think, the audio plays fine but no video.
To add further confusion i followed MrVanx guide about encoding for the Hermes and made one of files that has a res of 608 and a size of 350MB into a res of 320 and a size of 214. After converting that and playing it on my phone it works pretty well, occasionally there are artifacts; how do i fix this?. Is that part of the old issues? Is the buffer under options>settings>buffering going to help with the occasional dropped frame? Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
If you are using your device for watching movies on a regular basis, consider buying CorePlayer!
The new version is quite amazing and handle the Imageon chip on every ROM I tried (with and without the sleuth's ati patch). There is also a huge speed improvement between Coreplayer and tcpmp. It allows me to watch with very few slowdowns films ripped in high quality (624x352, 23fps, ...). As I am to lazy to have those ripped in a mobile format, this situation suits me well.
fun_key said:
If you are using your device for watching movies on a regular basis, consider buying CorePlayer!
The new version is quite amazing and handle the Imageon chip on every ROM I tried (with and without the sleuth's ati patch). There is also a huge speed improvement between Coreplayer and tcpmp. It allows me to watch with very few slowdowns films ripped in high quality (624x352, 23fps, ...). As I am to lazy to have those ripped in a mobile format, this situation suits me well.
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CorePlayer constantly freezes up on me. I recommend the FREE DivX Player from DivX themselves.
http://mobile.divx.com/size
or
http://mobile.divx.com/divx/winmoppc/DivXPlayer.CAB
hopefully I have just posted the cab for tcpmp v.81 (from 4winmobile ) which I have been using for a while.
It's a shame TCPMP seemed to wither away, in development I mean. It's a darn good video player and the one that I still use today - I use an 0.81RC1 beta version (at least it says it is, don't know if it's better than 0.72).
I even try to watch my divx films on my pc straight over wifi, which still doesn't seem to work ideally. I wonder what the limitation is, is it just the bits/s or maybe the video chip simply can't process that much information/second.
I'm also too lazy to rip the films yet again into a mobile format, it should be able to handle it, and 802.11g should handle the bitrate over the air...
Well, I suppose I'll consider CorePlayer, but I loved TCPMP being free. Oh well.
frenchglen said:
It's a shame TCPMP seemed to wither away, in development I mean. It's a darn good video player and the one that I still use today - I use an 0.81RC1 beta version (at least it says it is, don't know if it's better than 0.72).
I even try to watch my divx films on my pc straight over wifi, which still doesn't seem to work ideally. I wonder what the limitation is, is it just the bits/s or maybe the video chip simply can't process that much information/second.
I'm also too lazy to rip the films yet again into a mobile format, it should be able to handle it, and 802.11g should handle the bitrate over the air...
Well, I suppose I'll consider CorePlayer, but I loved TCPMP being free. Oh well.
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Orb + DivX player = Streamable over wifi/internet without any converting.
I tried the TCPMP .81RC1 and the slowdown isn't as bad, doing a benchmark it is 773k/s instead of 100k/s but the video need 1.3MB/s so i think i am going to need to convert what i want to the smaller size. I might try out coreplayer if i get a chance.
UllSang said:
I tried the TCPMP .81RC1 and the slowdown isn't as bad, doing a benchmark it is 773k/s instead of 100k/s but the video need 1.3MB/s so i think i am going to need to convert what i want to the smaller size. I might try out coreplayer if i get a chance.
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you do that as fun_key pointed out, CorePlayer now completely supports ATI ImageON, which means absolutely no artifacts playing MPEG4/H263 videos. plus ATI ImageON can handle MUCH higher bitrates, which helps if you're a bad boy and download all of your stuff from the net.. you won't need any converting at all (unless you want to stream audio over A2DP)
So what i am hearing is that i need to buy Coreplayer. Guess that is what i will do then. Thanks a bunch
On the new Dopod rom released on Jul-12th,
(1) ATIFix.cab from Sleuth is still required. (Both TCPMP and CorePlayer).
if not, you will see the screen zigzag after stoping video.
TCPMP set video for IMAGEON not IMAGEON decoder to remove
random blocks on the video..
CorePlayer 1.1.1 tested with imageon acceleration set.
(2) If u use the camera, then go and watch video using TCPMP or Coreplayer
there is a Green zigzag. (BUG same like the other WM6 cooked rom).
Not sure if this can be resolved. If disabled IMAGEON completely, no issue with the using CAMERA then watching video using CorePlayer or TCPMP.
By default, Windows Media Player didnot enable IMAGEON accelerator.
hey what is the best settings to watch a video on coreplayer. My player seems to lag alot when i watch something, any ideas as to what i should do?
play at open in fullscreen, unchecked enable network access, changed video output to QTv Display, High Video Quality and smooth on, and add some preamp
I never be able to watch video at full speed using coreplayer (always a little bit laggy)
I think we must wait a new version...
it is because coreplayer doesnt support hardware acceleration
we all want that coreplayer adds this option...
if you guys are talking about movies, try downloading one of axxo's movies (google axxo) i promise you, you wont regret it you may even show off your x1 even more like i do lol
avi format and no lag on the x1 with coreplayer, actually i prefer to watch axxo conversions on my x1 than on my tv or laptop
btw, his full movies are about 700mb
Even if you do use downloaded videos (whether they're from axxo or not) you always seem to get lag. The only time I've got anywhere close to watching a full movie problem-free is when I've switched airplane mode on. I think by doing so you're stopping any additional software/hardware from running, leaving coreplayer to effectively run on its own.
I've messed about with some of the settings but never got anything that was noticably better than another. Guess we need to wait for software that uses the hardware acceleration
badger mushroom, try one of axxo's videos and prove me wrong, axxo's uploads play exceptionally well with coreplayer, and i am sure many many people can testify of this, try it and see for yourself dude.
i have tried all and i mean all conversion settings using 3 of the best converters, its true u do get a lag, but i promise you if you try axxo vidz, you will eat your own words checkmate
I watch videos without lag quite fast I'd say, I just convert the videos to flv and 800x480 and it flies
hey
i think this would be best.....try it n plz let me know
Select Page ---
BUFFERING:
Normal buffer size = 992 KB
Preload at underrun = 70.0 %
Preload for audio = 0 KB
Microdrive mode = checked
Microdriver buffer size = 16000 KB
Microdriver starts at 1472 KB
VIDEO:
Video output = QTv Display
Video quality = High
Smooth Zoom = On
Dither = Uncheck
ADVANCE:
Slow video memory = Check
Feel free to give your opinion, especially on the ADVANCE PAGE Setting
buzz83 said:
play at open in fullscreen, unchecked enable network access, changed video output to QTv Display, High Video Quality and smooth on, and add some preamp
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Are these settings stored in the registry, or in a file?
working pretty good now with the new settings thanks again
Angelusz said:
Are these settings stored in the registry, or in a file?
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stored in a file:
\Application Data\CorePlayer\config.xml
Hello my friend, I had your previous UC-Lite image and now I switched to this new one.
Everything is ok but Xperia Tweak still does not work (like old image), please see pic below.
Any other way to disable screen turning off during call ?
Thanks
S
Hi,
ever since I upgraded to Rhodium I could not get proper video playback.
Basically no support for overlay.
I was/am using CorePlayer v1.3.6.Build.7427.
Qtv (Tytn II mode on) should work, but it never has. Tried all other video output options, didn't help.
Tearing is always there as is s*itty framerate. Getting ~65%/880kbps on a 1.3mbit video, mp4 avi 640x352.
Coreplayer was working perfectly on my Raphael and working good on the Kaiser.
This all happens on NRG roms (the only one I use ), currently on: Energy.RHODIUM.21903.Sense2.5.Cookie.May.22
Any ideas?
kosmarnik said:
Hi,
ever since I upgraded to Rhodium I could not get proper video playback.
Basically no support for overlay.
I was/am using CorePlayer v1.3.6.Build.7427.
Qtv (Tytn II mode on) should work, but it never has. Tried all other video output options, didn't help.
Tearing is always there as is s*itty framerate. Getting ~65%/880kbps on a 1.3mbit video, mp4 avi 640x352.
Coreplayer was working perfectly on my Raphael and working good on the Kaiser.
This all happens on NRG roms (the only one I use ), currently on: Energy.RHODIUM.21903.Sense2.5.Cookie.May.22
Any ideas?
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Known issue with TP2 and WM6.5 and above. Search the forums for more info.
Only known solution - turn off Sense when playing videos.
Try this
This cab fixed my tearing issues in Core Player.
Lightspeed said:
This cab fixed my tearing issues in Core Player.
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Thanks but in my case it didn't fix anything on the Tilt2. Framerate is still choppy until I turn off HTC Sense.
dario69 said:
Thanks but in my case it didn't fix anything on the Tilt2. Framerate is still choppy until I turn off HTC Sense.
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For me, it works sometimes. Try soft-resetting the phone
Speed Issues
Are other things slow on ur Tilt2 or is it just Media Playback perhaps you have too much stored on ur internal memory and it is slowing ur whole phone down. Just a possible solution...hope it works or hope that somehow ur problem gets fixed
I've never had this problem, except from tcmp that was cooked in... Never core player...
Sounds like a RAM problem, which would be why shutting off sense would fix this. Might need to look at all the apps you are using and disable some. Depends on whether you prefer using all the apps you have now, I disable all the tabs I don't use\need and usually have soft reset the phone a little earlier to clear the RAM.
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I've never had this problem, except from tcmp that was cooked in... Never core player...
Sounds like a RAM problem, which would be why shutting off sense would fix this. Might need to look at all the apps you are using and disable some. Depends on whether you prefer using all the apps you have now, I disable all the tabs I don't use\need and usually have soft reset the phone a little earlier to clear the RAM.
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RAM has nothing to do with it. It is related to Sense. Pure and simple. Nothing to do with apps, RAM, the video bit rates. It is Sense, WM6.5 and up, and Tilt2. I have done enough testing with both my TP2, TP, and Diamond2 to know it has everything to do with this combination. Sense on the TP2 hijacks the video drivers and unless you turn Sense off video will run choppy on Coreplayer or TCMP.
Coreplayer renders my (DVDFab Mobile mp4 ripped from DVD9) 1.87GB Avatar file ( 2 pass / 1519kbps / 29fps / 368x208 @ full screen) flawlessly on my stock ROM Tilt 2 running Sense 2.1.
Fluid, non-stuttered fast scene movements/changes with great detail tracking 100%.
It has everything to do with fine-tuning OS to have +60MB RAM free (60%) too. Of course, Coreplayer MUST be installed into main memory, not running from SD.
Something else is at fault if still having issues.
AVI container is terribly inefficient, try a pure .mp4 encoding video+audio together (PSP profiles work particularly well). Walle as same .mp4 also plays butter smooth, another tough file to lose fast panning jitters and momentary lags.
Reducing frame size greatly helps without perceptible crispness losses.
Hi
I too am having problems with playing video
on my touch Diamond 2 i just used to transferr over avi files straight from my pc with no conversion and it worked fine.
tried it with the touch pro and the video was well stuttery and unwatchable.
i am just about to load up tcmp to see if that is better
I did turn of sense but that didnt seem to make any difference.
I am also going to try the following conversions:
mp4 PSP settings
h264 original resolution
wmv
i dont really want to have convert every video but if i do what is the resolution to go for?
also i have seen people talk about adjusting the settings for core player but cant see any resolution settings on the player.
sorry to be a bit thick.
thanks in advance
Coreplayer is the best video player. For resolution I find 1/2 display 800x400 gives best compromise of detail. For example, see above post about Avatar, a particularly difficult movie due to high detail levels combined with virtually zero non-moving backrounds adding rendering complexity.
368x208 gave very good detail, full 16:9 image and allowed high frame per second and high kbps which are far more important smoothing out high-action rendering. Higher resolution is just too much to process without lags.
PM me for a sample of what a good conversion can provide, without fooling around disabling Sense, etc.
bmhome1
see the other post i did on testing players and resolutions.
I agree that the mp4 PSP (368 x 208) works well
its just a pain that i have to convert all my files (or turn off sense)
I know its a business device but it seems a bit crap when it wont play as well as the TD2
Hi all,
I broke my blackstone (Touch HD) last week and bought a used Touch Pro, so I am new to this section of XDA.
The first thing I noticed was the poor video playback using coreplayer. I never had this problem with blackstone.
I decided to install NeoS2007_Driverpack_3.cab (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496528), since it is compatible with our device and I must say it is a big improvement.
I wacthed the new A-team movie without any stutter or glitches, so for me this solution seems to work nicely. I left sense running and did nothing else to improve video playback. The file is a "regular' movie file (MPEG-4, 720x304, 25.000fps).
Hope I can be of some help.
cheers!
extra comment: I found the ram usage of stockrom and a lot of custom roms very high, but after flashing a couple I think I found a winner.... see signature. After using it for a whille, the ram usage is "only" at 45%, which is prettu descent I believe for rhodium roms. I installed the driver pack and R6-16 shortcuts and a bunch of other "crap" like changescreen to have TomTom and other programs to run in landscape, so it's no clean rom anymore.
in fairness to core player wheni played an mp4 file on it it was fine without the sense switched off - see my other post regarding the video player testings i did
I forgot to mention in my post here above that using tnyynt SD Tuneup will increase the access speed of the storage card.
You can read about it here: http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/how-to-dramatically-speed-up-your-storage-card
Install this tweak first and see how the video works. It will smoothen the playback even without NeoSdrivers installed.
Best Results (IMHO)
Original At&t Ship ROM (Winmo 6.5, Touchflo3D disabled)
Coreplayer v.1.3.6 build 7427 for ARM (Video set to Qtv)
WiMoSpeed v1.04 (Overclock set to 768Mhz)
With these settings, I was able to play a video (AVI: DIVX, 848x480, 23.976fps) with audio (mp3 48000 Hz 2 Ch, 81 kbit/s) smoothly, with no tearing.
brettzx said:
Original At&t Ship ROM (Winmo 6.5, Touchflo3D disabled)
Coreplayer v.1.3.6 build 7427 for ARM (Video set to Qtv)
MiMoSpeed v1.04 (Overclock set to 768Mhz)
With these settings, I was able to play a video (AVI: DIVX, 848x480, 23.976fps) with audio (mp3 48000 Hz 2 Ch, 81 kbit/s) smoothly, with no tearing.
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Please don't resurrect old threads for no reason.
cajunflavoredbob said:
Please don't resurrect old threads for no reason.
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Sorry CFB, but I've been looking through threads for good info on quality video playback and unfortunately this thread was one of the few that offered any useful info (as old as it was) and I figured I'd leave my 2 cents for anyone coming after me that wanted the same.
i have some avi files i wish to play .. ive tried converting to mp4 and its all scrambled .... any ideas of what program i should use and what settings ??
thanks
chris
You could try rockplayer (http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/06/rockplayer_media_player_beta_for_android.html ) but i have not tested it myself since my phone is at htc service centre
edit: if you want to convert them, I use badaboom (uses my nvidia gpu so goes fast, although it s not able to convert to the maximum resolution of the phone) or handbrake (which uses cpu)
Hi, not tried myself yet, but just been googling the same question, some report success with:
http://www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/
others:
http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/iPod/ "Videora" for the iphone 3GS (free) on standard settings.
seems to play H263 or H264, and audio in AAC - no codecs yet for divx etc.
Hopefully some others will post here with good software solutions - good ones being free
The RockPlayer works great for avi/divx files on desire, thanks
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Rockplayer is indeed a great AVI player but I have found a few files it plays slow or stutters on, as it's only beta at the moment I'm looking forward to the full release - in the meantime it's a great app to have.
+1, I've also been using rock player for the last couple of weeks and have had no problems with any dvd quality files. I still use mvideoplayer for x264 stuff though as its better for that and the GUI on rock player is poor - visibility is an issue quite often as it's status bar overlay is transparent with a bit of white meaning you often can't see the timecode on bright images.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
Flaggie said:
You could try rockplayer (http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/06/rockplayer_media_player_beta_for_android.html ) but i have not tested it myself since my phone is at htc service centre
edit: if you want to convert them, I use badaboom (uses my nvidia gpu so goes fast, although it s not able to convert to the maximum resolution of the phone) or handbrake (which uses cpu)
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hm? gpu converter? I havent seen or tried one yet.
EncodeHD is pretty simple but uses cpu power. http://dcunningham.net/media-tools/encodehd/
I pretty much recommend it if you want 1:1 and dont like messing around with resolutions and compressions.
Badaboom says my system is not compatible. But I got an 8800GT and windows 7. That should be compatible!!!
I did try badaboom now and I'm disapointed actually. It slower then EncodeHD when run from a quad 9300 3GHZ. There doesnt seem to be a way to keep the original resolution either. I mean whats the point to encode to 640x480 or even 800x400 when the original files are only 624x352.
i'm running it on windows 7 x64 with 8600m gt and works like a charm. (for those of you with ati cards there is ati avivo but i have no experience with how it works) @balos no wonder that a cpu based encoder is faster with a 3ghz quad core (i'm only on a dualcore 1.8 ghz). And badaboom not seeing your system as compatible do you have latest drivers installed?
I got it working but it only converts with a disappointing 170fps. When I pick a bigger resolution it even drops to 140fps.
With xmedia encode I can reach 200fps on HTC Desire profile and original resolution of the chosen .avi. On Ipod profile which i used with badaboom where I got 170fps. I can go up to 220fps with other cpu based encoders.
I would recommend Badaboom and similar gpu based converters only when you have a weak cpu or when you need your cpu resources freed for other things.
I'm gonna stick with EncodeHD and Xmedia. Both are free converters and since my cpu is stronger then my gpu and I dont use my computer when I do the converting its the better choice.
Well its true that we got an .avi player now with rock player which even plays them smooth. But .avi format uses about 20% more cpu power then mp4 so it should drain the battery so much faster. If thee is an power source close to where you watch your movies it doesn't really matter.
mancuk29 said:
i have some avi files i wish to play .. ive tried converting to mp4 and its all scrambled .... any ideas of what program i should use and what settings ??
thanks
chris
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I use Danuisoft Convereter to Convert , but you can use any converter. You just need to make sure that it is set to
Resolutions : 800 x480
Container: MP4
Video Codec H264
Frame rate 29.4
I set my audio codec to AAc or MP3, but thats up to you.
You can choose h264 is the only codec that show thumbnails currently.
If you jhave any questions let me know.
i hope you only converting HDs with that setting because on the usual .avi it would be a waste.
Balos said:
i hope you only converting HDs with that setting because on the usual .avi it would be a waste.
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I have made multiple tests and these settings are best for HD and SD content .avi included.
What exactly do you mean? Usually tv shows are in 624x352 24fps. 1000kbps
How could you gain anything from using a higher resolution, more fps and bigger bitrate. Makes no sense. The only thing you will get is streach your avarage 350MB file to 500Mb without improved quality.
Balos said:
What exactly do you mean? Usually tv shows are in 624x352 24fps. 1000kbps
How could you gain anything from using a higher resolution, more fps and bigger bitrate. Makes no sense. The only thing you will get is streach your avarage 350MB file to 500Mb without improved quality.
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Maybe things are different from you, but this works for me. If you have another reccomendation feel free to post your two cents.
no im just wondering how you get out of 24fps 30 and what a bigger resolution brings other then higher cpu usage and slower conversation time. Was always wonering why the cam or TS movie rippers dont just boost the resolution and make HD out of cam rips.
the short answer. It bring nothing. At last nothing good but if it works for you, go with it.
THE real setting for .avi if you want to keep best quality should always be.
h264
keep original fps count
keep original resolution
keep original bitrate.
you may add little sharpness filter.
Best and simpliest converter for this is EncodeHD
So after reading up and finding that video playback isnt brilliant on the tp2 i thougt i would do some tests.
my goal was to find an easy way to watch films. I dont really want to have to convert all my films to mp4 and use the htc album, but i dont really want to have to switch of sense and soft reset every time i have a spare 1/2 hour.
So using the same footage I ran multiple formats on the following players:
coreplayer, TCMP, Media Player and HTC album.
Not really sure how conclusive it is ( and there is certainly more testing that can be done)
i am going to try using MP4forHD to convert the file a last time and try that on all players
have a look at the results and let me know what you think
So basically what you're saying is that the only videos that work are the original AVI and some MP4s with coreplayer without Sense turned on. That sucks.
Interesting results. I have never bothered trying with sense or spb mobile shell off, but for most videos I watch (640x320 or something close, i.e., vga resolution), they seem to work ok on the tilt2. I get some annoying pixelation with TCMP, but the default windows media player seems to play them pretty crisply and smoothly. the only tradeoff there is WMP is pretty low on the totem pole feature wise.
it also seems odd to me that your results get worse when sense is turned off. It's more intuitive that it would work better if you have more ram available. Could this be an issue with a custom rom you flashed? I am using the stock ATT with spb mobile shell. Did you try a different media file?
I am using the stock rom
from what i understand the HTC and windows media use some sort of graphics acceleration
so you dont need to turn off sense.
stringman said:
I am using the stock rom
from what i understand the HTC and windows media use some sort of graphics acceleration
so you dont need to turn off sense.
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True, that makes sense. Still not sure why things get worse with Sense off, but maybe that is just the human side of the measurement, as they do all look pretty close between the two sets? And actually, it gets better for Core, worse for TCMP, and then about the same for the other two.
Do you think it would be worth trying with a different SD card, or better: trying a small video loaded from the device? If you play from the device, you at lease take the age/quality of the SD card out of the experiment as a variable. Even though you wouldn't watch a video from the device in real life, it may be a better way to benchmark, unless you are benchmarking for a specific card.
I think adding a streaming file to the test would be interesting too. Anyway, thanks for the research on this. It is a very interesting topic, imo.
The muisc player wasn't working for me either, and movies really sucked! nothing would play.
I switched roms and now everything works, music plays and comes up in the player, and movies look and play good.
I converted with AVS here are my settings:
Video codec: MPEG4(divX/Xvid compatible)
Audio codec: MPEG2/4 Audio
Frame Size:
Width: 368
Height: 208
Frame Rate:
Bitrate: 520
File Type: mp4 PSP
Channels: Stereo Sample Size: 16bit
Sample Rate: 48000Hz Bitrate: 128kbps
I watched on the built in player and didn't have to turn anything off, my fully charged battery lasted for almost 4 hours of nearly constant use ( i turned it off after i got under ~7% left).
PocketDiVXEncoder
hard to go wrong with PocketDiVXEncoder
http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/EN_index.htm
its free, and makes amazingly good playable .avi's out of almost anything
the 1.7mb :30 second clip attached below was encoded at 300k video/96k audio, and the whole movie is about 390megs @ this level of quality.
Anything made in PDE thats <= 1200k/128k/640x480 seems to play flawlessly in COREplayer
my issue is that if i have to convert any file to anyformat its a real pain.
on the td2 i could tranfer a avi fil from my laptop to the sd card and watch the film no problem.
now i have to convert it to a mp4 or something and to a particular resolution
ok so its about 40mins but its a pain
so bearing in mind that this does need to be done
whats the best format ( i am leaning to mp4)
whats the best resolution settings
whats the best prog ( i am using mp4for hd at the moment)
cheers