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SMS Backup, Restore, Export (+MMS, +Email)

Hi,
There is a new program with SMS Backup, Restore feature.
Let's try it now! http://xpocketpc.fw.hu
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It would be more great if they add a feature that also can backup contacts, tasks and appointments.. and also can support wm2005..
btw, speaking of 2005.. is this working on wm2005?

thats Great
hey i downloaded it
sounds to be too great
wish i got it before i did a hardreset and lost my more than 1000 sms's
anyways thanks

...If you need to do backups of everything (all messages AND contacts etc.) and you're within range of a PC when you do it, Jeyo Mobile Companion seems to do a brilliant job...
http://www.jeyo.com

New smsBackup v1.1 application
New smsBackup v1.1 application has been released!
http://www.pdafresh.net/communications/sms/app_smsbackup.htm

restoring of messages after hard reset
Hi,
I need help on restoring my messages..I did a hard reset on my XDA IIs and reinstalled smsbackup but was unable to restore the messages back..I opened the directory where I stored my messages in my storage card (that’s where I exported and backed up the messages to prior doing the hard reset), I was able to see all the stored messages..
I’m not too sure if I did my settings right but here’s how the settings being configured:
Output directory : \storage card
Execute directory : \storage card
The 2 main .dll and .exe files were placed in \windows\smsbackup
Would appreciate if I could have your valuable advise on this issue..Thank You..

I'm getting errors with this.
xMessage:GetAttachments
Read failed.
I've got the settings right for the paths, backing up to \My Documents\Personal
Any ideas? Or have I come across a bug? Does this app have any logs that anyone knows of for tracing this kind of issue?

I've been getting the same error message ... smsBackup just doesn't seem to work on my IIs either, and I've tried installing it immediately after a hard reset just in case it was due to some other program!

When it fails without effort, it sucks
Fails on my Harrier. (XV6600). Same error messages.
I'd use Jeyo, but they don't grok folders other than the
default folders.
Ehud

Anyone know who the author is of the software and how we can contact them?
I think the failure I am getting is related to an email that contains another email as an attachment.

Re: smsBackup, smsHide, Allexport
Hello,
It will be available a new program (not a new version) in few hours: smsOrganizer!
You will be able to use all functions of smsBackup, smsHide, Allexport and much more:
· Message Blacklist and/or Whitelist
· Message Backup/Restore manually or automatic by rules/profiles
· Message Encrypt
· Export Messages
· Forward Messages automatic by rules/profiles
· Hide/Unhide Messages manually or automatic by rules/profiles
· Reply Messages automatic by rules/profiles
· Store Messages in custom folders manually or automatic by rules profiles
· Message Tone for Contacts/Category/Phone Number by profiles
You can use the smsOrganizer trial version for free.
This program is full compatible with the following programs:
smsBackup
smsHide
Allexport (messages function only)
When you will use the smsBackup and the smsHide functions then the trial version of smsOrganizer allows you free to use maximal 3 functions (rules) – perhaps one for the backup and one for the hide function. And of course you will be able to export and restore your messages too.
So please download the smsOrganizer trial version for FREE!
If you like it, you can buy the program and use all of the functions.

Download smsOrganizer!
http://www.zedsoft.net
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What about reading messages from and copying messages to the simcard itself? i cant seem to find software that can do that. kinda annoying, i cant read old messages from my sim. know any software that can do that?

Well...
Hi anevemkovacs...
...to be quite honest, I've had a disapointment with SMSOrganizer...
I've been using SMSBackup for some time... and I always used without a problem... but a while ago I was forced to change to SMSOrganizer (SMSBackup told me to go get a newer version and didn't let me use it anymore).
Well... I configured SMSOrganizer... and asked it to backup my SMSs (that's all I needed)... it took me ages and I wasn't able to finish the process!!!! When I used SMSBackup the process was completed in some 15 seconds (if it took that much)... Whit SMSOrganizer it was running for 15 minutes... and the process is almost at the beggining... :O((((
Do you think this is just some bug or does the increased funcionality of this new application makes it soooo slow?
Thanks for everything...

i like smsbackup whats with the forced upgrade? i'm curious to try smsorganizer but it may not sit well with some being pushed into it. is the smsorganizer trial version also time limited?
any chance making smsbackup available again? in case smsorganizer might not work out for me (angelito seems to be having issues with it).

Well...
Hi thorne...
Don't get me wrong... For what I've seen SMSOrganizer is quite complete... and it's a nice upgrade from the SMSBackup in terms of funcionalities... however... for me is way to slow (but it may be any bug or any configuration I have on my Qtek2020).
But I do, in fact, had all I wanted in SMSBackup... it was simple and fast.
(OH!!! I still wasn't able to do that backup since SMSBackup went on vacations )

Just to inform...
Hi thorne...
I haven't tried it yet... but there's an update to smsOrganizer (at http://www.zedsoft.net/, as usual). According to anevemkovacs it will correct the problem I had... I'll try it today, later at night... and I'll give a feedback on how it worked out.
About the time limit I really don't have a clue if smsOrganizer is also defined to last a certain amount of time... but I supose so... since both smsBackup and AllExport worked like that...
EDITED [06.09.2005 23h12]
I've tried the v1.01 and everything's OK now!
And the speed is just like smsBackup... I think you can migrate to smsOrganizer without fear now...
see ya!

thanks for the heads up dude! i'm gonna give it a try over the weekend

Wouldn't it be easier to just make a full backup from day 2 day?

I've tried the smsorganizer.. there's a new version online..
The backup bug has been fixed.. I've just manage to do a back up.
Export work as well too.. It creates a txt of the sms in the specified folder.
However store feature doesn't seem to work.. but that's secondary to me..
As long as I can backup and restore plus export them out.. I'm good to go..

Text Messages loads SO SLOW on Tilt 2.

I used PIM backup to load all my texts from my previous phone (about 13,000 total)
Whenever I slide to the Messages tab it literally takes 10 seconds just to load the 25 messages in TF3D. If I click view all it glitches out and takes almost a minute to load the entire all messages screen.
What the hell? Isn't this device supposed to be FASTER than my original AT&T Tilt?! It had no problem loading messages like this.
My device is nearly unusable as a messaging device. Any suggestions?
Very dissapointed.

redsrule2500 said:
I used PIM backup to load all my texts from my previous phone (about 13,000 total)
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Not to sound sarcastic in any way, but maybe if you didn't have 13,000 text messages it may run a bit faster.
Was it running that slow prior to the transfer?

agreed, what purpose could you possibly have for keeping that many text messages around?! thats most likely your issue

Even so - my Tilt original was able to handle it is the point.
I keep all my texts I've ever sent - does anyone have a better method of backing up all messages online or something rather than keeping them all on the phone?
Ugh...

Now I keep getting filesys.exe errors.
**** this.

There is no way of viewing all messages? I can only delete about 200 at a time now. I hate this phone.

It MIGHT have something to do with the version and build of windows mobile...
I've had a handful of backup problems when flashing to different ROM, even when I just wanted to restore sms and/or calendar.
I decided to forget about sms, since I rarely found myself needing somehting from even a month ago. Calendar is now part of exchange, so no worries there.

Try Jeyo Mobile Extender to backup your SMS to Outlook. It just doesn't do MMS so make sure to move those to a different folder.

try pocket sms.... with this, you can easyly export your sms to an excel file.
13.000 is way to much on your phone

Caspertje19 said:
try pocket sms.... with this, you can easyly export your sms to an excel file.
13.000 is way to much on your phone
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Ah, this looked perfect....but I can't get it to work!
Just sits on Syncing Inbox....ugh

Microsoft MyPhone and SMS

Hi:
Just got a new phone and used MyPhone to restore sms etc. to my new phone.
Well, it did restore all sms, but it restored them in a crazy, erratic order . Out of date, out of time (for example an sms from 10/25 shows after one from 10/26, and one from 10pm shows after one from 10am etc). Is there anything I can do about arranging them? I did of course try the view by MESSAGE TYPE, FROM etc (in the upper right of messaging), which only rearranged the main/last visible sms in the thread.
Also, the restored texts only show sent texts in TF3D sms tab (TF3D 2.1, WM6.5 stock ATT), but it does not show received texts.
Please help, as everything is a MESS now.
Thanks!

That's a good point. I noticed that too. Also my mms don't get restored with their pictures attached.

I've been having this problem for a bit now, wow, thought it was only me. However, when I log onto myphone on the net, everything is there, very strange

I've suffered the same problem as you guys, but I found a solution. Here are the steps I had to take to ensure the proper order of my SMS.
On your previous device you have to disable SMS threading. Here are the steps to do it (Assuming its WinMo 6.1):
1.) In your registry go to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\
2.) Create new DWORD value name: SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
3.) Set the value for that DWORD to 1
4.) Exit and soft reset device
Now you have to install Jeyo Mobile Companion to back up your SMS on your old device. You can use it as a trial for 30 days. Here is the website: http://www.jeyo.com/companion.asp
1.) Connect your previous device to the software and backup your SMS only (you will be given options to backup contacts and e-mail as well) using the software. It should be self-explanatory to do this. This creates a local backup file on your PC.
2.) Hard reset your Tilt 2
3.) Make sure in your Task Manager that Messaging is not in there
4.) Connect your Tilt 2 to Jeyo Mobile Companion. Choose the restore option to restore your SMS
5.) When the process is complete, go your SMS Inbox. If you see your Inbox sorting out your messages, then your job is complete. If you have a lot of SMS's this process can take a very long time. Do not interrupt the process at all! Just leave the phone idle for a while. If you do not see your Inbox sorting the SMS's continue reading.
6.) Delete all your SMS's on the Tilt 2. Make sure drafts, inbox, and sent items are empty. It can take a while to delete all the messages.
7.) Repeat steps 3-5
This is all based on my experience of restoring the SMS in the right order. If anyone has a simpler and more efficient way of doing this, please post.

Hi:
Thanks for your reply. Sadly I no longer have my old device.
Is there any other way of fixing this problem?
Thanks again!

From my experience, the only way around it is converting your SMS backup to non-threaded SMS backup. I haven't tried this method but you can see if works for you.
I am not sure if AdvancedConfig 3.3 is compatible with WinMo 6.5, but I assume it is. Please research if it is beforehand because I couldn't find confirmation. You can download that app from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
Use that app to disable threaded SMS. Soft Reset and if all went well, your inbox should not have threaded SMS anymore. Then start following my steps from where you install Jeyo Mobile Companion. The only difference is that in the first step, you will be backing up your SMS from your Tilt 2.
Let me know if that works out for you if you decided to try it out.

There were many complaints of this on the MyPhone forums and last I checked, Microsoft said that this was a known issue based on when the device was inserting a given message into the message store.
They said that they were working on it.

das-man said:
From my experience, the only way around it is converting your SMS backup to non-threaded SMS backup. I haven't tried this method but you can see if works for you.
I am not sure if AdvancedConfig 3.3 is compatible with WinMo 6.5, but I assume it is. Please research if it is beforehand because I couldn't find confirmation. You can download that app from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
Use that app to disable threaded SMS. Soft Reset and if all went well, your inbox should not have threaded SMS anymore. Then start following my steps from where you install Jeyo Mobile Companion. The only difference is that in the first step, you will be backing up your SMS from your Tilt 2.
Let me know if that works out for you if you decided to try it out.
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Hi:
Thanks so much for your replies
So, after restoring with Jeyo, can I then turn threading back on? I can't live without threaded messages lol.
Thanks again!

Oh I am sorry I forgot to mention that. After you backup your messages without the threading, you should hard reset your phone. Then just follow the steps like I mentioned. So yes, your threading should be enabled again by default so you don't have to worry about that on your part.
BTW, please don't forget to keep copies of your old backups (any backup files you had before I made my suggestions).

Hi:
Well when I disabled threaded messaging for some reason it caused my phone to become unresponsive. SMS tab was no longer loading in TF3D, and all of TF3D was basically unusable.
I had to hard reset, and restore with Sprite.
So, now I am back to the messed up SMSes.

Sorry to hear that. Yeah I was lucky enough to still have my old phone to mess around with so I am not sure how get your SMS in order. If you still feel like messing around I still have a few ideas in mind lol.
Forget trying to disable the threaded SMS all together. This time try backing up your SMS on your Tilt 2 using Jeyo. Once it's backed up, look in Jeyo and see how it is arranged. If you see all your received SMS in "Inbox" and sent SMS in "Sent" I guess that is a good sign. Then perform a hard reset on your phone and try restoring your SMS from Jeyo's backup file.
If after the first restore from Jeyo, your message is still out of order, don't panic. Like I mentioned earlier, delete all your SMS's(Not Hard Reset!) and perform the restore a second time. (I don't know the reasoning behind that, but hey it worked for me.)

Das-Man,
I have the HTC Touch Pro 2 with Verizon as my carrier and I tried your method.
I downloaded all my messages back onto my phone via My Phone. They were all out of order. So, I then downloaded Total Companion and edited the registry value as you said, so that they became unthreaded. Went to Jeyo's website, downloaded the program, backed them up.
I deleted all messages in my folders, deleted the registry values, made sure my mms was closed, etc. Then restored my messages. They went back on but they are still unthreaded in my windows sms windows.
I already had my contacts, etc backed up. So, I decided to reflash my rom thinking that it would definitely get rid of my threading edits. That went smoothly, and I tried again.
In the windows txt app they're still unthreaded, but in order. In HTC's texting window, all texts are now separated by author. IE. All of mine are at the top, with all of my correspondents at the bottom. Though they are in the correct order, this still isn't very helpful.
You have any more ideas of what I could do or where I might have gone wrong?

First of all, the HTC's texting Window is a mystery I have not solved yet. Yes, mine also has the same nonsense with the the messages I sent on top while the messages I received on the bottom. I am still researching into it, and if i find a solution, I'll definitely let you know.
Now for your Windows txt app; after you reflashed the rom you said your msgs are still unthreaded after you transferred them. I am not sure if I had the same problem but I remember something was wrong the first time I transferred. That is why I deleted all the text messages and did the transfer process a 2nd time w/o reflashing the rom. In other words, the first transfer usually doesn't work for some odd reason but the 2nd time it does. If you see messages being sorted, then you are good to go, and don't touch it til you are certain it is done. I hope I didn't confuse you lol. BTW is it WM 6.5?

Ugh, this is the most frustrating thing ever.
After reading your post, I reflashed my rom again. Put the txts on once, it was a no go. No sorting happened. I deleted all of them, reconnected to Jeyo, and went to restore again.
Jeyo got through all the inbox and about 1/2 the sent box. Then it errored and closed out, not completing the restore. I went into my inbox to delete this incomplete transfer, and lo and behold what was there began to sort. I left it alone to make sure and everything rethreaded. It was fantastic. But as I said, 1/2 my sent messages were misssing and thus did not get rethreaded in. So, I deleted all my messages again. Repeated process, jeyo didn't error this time.
But of course, now they refuse to rethread. I have deleted/re downloaded probably about 10 times now and not once did it begin to resort my txts. I even reflashed the rom, hoping that it only would work the 2nd time, still no cigar.
I just don't understand what makes the windows messaging app want to rethread or not. Are there special options I should select in the restore? Am I supposed to be checking that overwrite box?
And yes, this is WM 6.5.

When I was doing the transfer, I did not have the overwrite option checked off. The best thing i could suggest, is reflash your Rom. Make sure in task manager that messaging is not in there. Use Jaya to transfer all your SMS to the phone. If it did not thread, make sure you delete all your text messages. Don't use Jaya to delete the SMS's but use the phone. Make sure you delete your sent box, inbox and even drafts. If you have a lot of messages, it can take quite a while to delete so don't panick. When you see everything is clearn try the transfer process again and hopefully it threads. I'm sorry if I'm repeating exactly what you did, but that is the best I can think of.

I got it to work. I had to turn of the threading option when I transferred the texts over. Once they were one, i went and renabled threading. All threaded perfectly. =)

I don't seem to have the problem you are all facing. I tested many different scenarios without turning off Threaded Messaging. First synced all the messages, then archived only a few that were part of a threaded message. they obviously got deleted from the phone. Later I restored the same messages from the archive and voila, they were all back perfectly.
I'm not sure, but many of you might not be aware that there is a new version of MyPhone available. The one that came with my ROM wouldn't work unless I upgraded it, which I did.

hopelovebeauty said:
I got it to work. I had to turn of the threading option when I transferred the texts over. Once they were one, i went and renabled threading. All threaded perfectly. =)
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Good to hear. BTW, were you able to get the HTC Messaging to thread properly?

updated ROM, messages won't restore

I just reformatted to the latest MightyROM, and I had backed up all my texts with PIM. It took like an hour or half-hour to "restore" them, and all the conversation threads are visible under "All Messages" (as well as the latest 25 texts in Manilla), however, when I open them, they're completely empty. Anyone know why this might be happening?
I had a really nice version of messaging through Calkulin's Kitchen, but I don't know what it was or how I might put it on over MightyROM -- it basically looked the same, but a few more buttons of interface on a lot of things (actually, mainly buttons instead of softkey-like buttons in messaging and the Start menu and other places).

Are your messages threaded? That will cause problems from time to time.
What you could try is:
Hard reset (to start from scratch)
Disable threaded mode.
Backup your sms (you will notice that it will restore much faster now with disabled threaded mode)
Enable threaded mode.
Then your messages need time to get in the right order again (because of the threaded). This will take from 15-30 minutes. Then it should be fine again.

Anyone have Handcent delete all your messages for no reason?

I had a ton of text message threads in Handcent.. Just rebooted my phone like I do all the time. And all of a sudden they were gone! I tried to do a data restore from Titanium but that never seems to work for texts
Not the end of the world.. Just curios as to why it happened..

I have read before that sometimes HC will FC if too many messages are present on a thread, I guess this could be qualified as another side effect for a database that has become way too large for HC to handle.

This just happened to me again. After a manual reboot.. ALL of my text messages are gone. They're gone from the stock messaging app too so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I did a Google search and see other people are having this problem as well with just the stock messaging app. Any ideas on a fix? I'm missing some important text messages.... ugh..

Just noticed my saved wireless networks are gone after the reboot as well....
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

thenags said:
This just happened to me again. After a manual reboot.. ALL of my text messages are gone. They're gone from the stock messaging app too so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I did a Google search and see other people are having this problem as well with just the stock messaging app. Any ideas on a fix? I'm missing some important text messages.... ugh..
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I can't help you with the root cause of the problem - I've never had it happen to me but a couple of friends have (all msgs wiped).
If the messages are missing from Handcent, they will also be missing from the stock app - there's no difference because the messages are (or should be) in the same place and you're just choosing to view/send them with Handcent or the stock app (or another of your choosing).
I CAN, however, help you try to minimize the effects of this happening in the future, as well as keep multiple records of your SMS...
I use two apps, together. The first one, called SMS Backup & Restore, by developer Ritesh Sahu has been a god send for me. You can backup all your messages and restore them, fully - it even gets the conversation threads in the right order by date upon recovery. In addition to manual backups, you can schedule backups.
While backing up is fast, I have to warn you that deleting all current messages (if you have a lot) and restoring them can take time. Restoring them, however, shows you a status bar so you can track its progress while deleting them just says "deleting" and you never know how long it will be. (The same dev also has a sister program for phone call logs - it's lightning fast and just as reliable/effective).
The other app I use is called "SMS Backup" by dev Christoph Studer (if you have trouble finding either of these in the market, look them up by searching for the dev's names). What this app does is work quietly in the background to send / upload your SMS to your Gmail. You can set which label you want to apply to them in Gmail, and then in Gmail set a filter to have them skip right over your inbox. This app also lets you have them appear as read when they are uploaded. All in all, you never even realize it's working and your Gmail will never be the wiser, until you have to refer back to an old SMS - maybe a phone number or address or some other vital info sent to you over text... and you can just go and find it at that time safely recorded in your Gmail.
I hope that helps!
Best of luck. If you're having trouble beyond disappearing texts, you may have other more serious underlying issues...

The problem with the backup apps are obviously I need to run them. Who thinks to do a backup prior to doing nothing more than a reboot?! It's crazy that the phone just deletes them on it's own. Searching on Google shows that this problem is wayyyy too common.

thenags said:
The problem with the backup apps are obviously I need to run them. Who thinks to do a backup prior to doing nothing more than a reboot?! It's crazy that the phone just deletes them on it's own. Searching on Google shows that this problem is wayyyy too common.
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who will do backups on a regular basis? folks that have lost data in the past. the more significant the loss, the better their backup habits.
i do backups. it seems the previous poster does. heck, i bet you start doing backups too.
the more you work with technology the more likely you are to ensure that your important data is at least duplicated. things like pictures, audio, video, text should be considered. this goes for desktops, laptops, netbooks, phones, etc. if it stores data, runs an OS and a users interacts with it...it will fail eventually.
sms backup works quite nicely. i found it after i lost my text messgs once.

I run Titanium every single night by schedule and nandroid every other night. I also have automated backups on all my PC's. But I send and recieve at least 1000 texts a day.. So when my texts randomly delete themselves at 5pm.... A backup made at 2am does me no good for my text messages....

Then modify your backup routine. I your backups won't recover your data...you are using the wrong tool. Sms backup can backup every X hrs.
Trust me..there is always a way to protect data that you find important.
I agree, the app shouldn't erase your data.
you can complain and cry....or...complain and recover.
The choice is solely up to you.
Good luck.

I back up all of my texts to my gmail, makes for great searching!

DraginMagik said:
Then modify your backup routine. I your backups won't recover your data...you are using the wrong tool. Sms backup can backup every X hrs.
Trust me..there is always a way to protect data that you find important.
I agree, the app shouldn't erase your data.
you can complain and cry....or...complain and recover.
The choice is solely up to you.
Good luck.
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Where is the option to backup every X hours? I've been through the settingss several times and don't see it

I've been using Handcent for 1.5 years now with no issue but just saw this with a customer who has the Thunderbolt. All messages are gone and she was not on the latest version which is 3.9 now. I've got 3.82 on my Evo so I'm going to leave it there till I know what's going on with this.