I was wondering if it's possible to copy my received sms/mms messages to my PC? There doesn't seem to be an option in Activesync.
I used to use this program: www.mobiledit.com to backup my messages on my old Motorola V3, but that program doesn't (yet) support smartphones, typical!
So if someone could tell me HOW, or if there is any 3rd party software that can do it?
Thanks!
Apparently Kai's Mail+SMS Backup .Net will do it.
I've never used it though.
I think this is the sort of functionality that should be pre-built. The ability to export any settings and messages to a data-file on a PC (or the storage card) ready to be restored after a hard reset/ROM upgrade.
I use Jeyo Mobile Companion to backup sms, unfortunately it cant handle mms.
bluesign2k said:
I use Jeyo Mobile Companion to backup sms, unfortunately it cant handle mms.
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Ahh that looks like just the thing im after, thanks! Pity it doesn't support MMS though I wonder if that's planned in a future release....
EDIT: Damn i just looked again, and the latest version was released in August 2004! :'(
I'm looking for a solution for transfert mms from a device to an other with arcsoft MMS composer ...
Well i can see a directory named "UAContents" in the My Documents directory that apparently contain all mms file but if i copy it to the new device nothing appear in the inbox or all other folders
is somebody make this successfuly ?
Jeyo pwns.
esp. with Outlook 2003... (yes, something actually works properly and flawlessly with a Microsoft product !!)
Yah that's what im using now, and i agree, it actually WORKS lol!
Although my phone has started to do strange things lately... resulting in the loss of my texts and e-mails...... i just hope it isnt linked to Jeyo!
Hi!
I've been researching the last, dunno, 6hours or so...
I'm quite desperate now, so here's what's up:
-I use a HTC BlueAngel (MDA III)
-made a full backup with ActiveSync (I knooow I should have used whatever 3rd party backup tool... too f**ing late)
-successfully upgraded the system to "Helmi_WM2k5_AKU3.2_32mb_v1.3.2_16mb_bitpool_32mbRamdisk"
-been happy for like 5 minutes
-so I started to get my contacts and calendar restored (still had all my files/pictures - cool)
and then it struck me: ActiveSync 4.x cannot restore these infos to the WM5 system!!
Sooo, after some diggin' on the net I finally got "MobileVault"...
I thought, yipeee, I have succesfully exported my Contacts Database and Appointments Database to my PC...
(I just opened my backup.stg and opened WinCE Databases, selected Contacts Database - which I attached - and exported okay)
Meanwhile (on a remote island in the Pacific... =P) I found out, that both Contacts and Appointments are stored in the "pim.vol" in WM5.
(also attached that)
Well, let's just put'em in there then...
Khmmm... so... put-em-in... Nope. Not workin'.
Also I've been playing around with conveting the exported Contacts DB file into CSV (comma separated format) and importing to Outlook.
Annoying is, that I see the stuff what I need... but it's over 200 entries with 2-6 data each! (don't bother multiplying: it' a LOT)
Only problem was that there doesn't seem to be a recognisable logic in the order of the data... Once the email address is first and name is like 5th, then mobile number is first, etc...
Cannot import to Outlook.
PLEASE! I soooooo don't want to reinstall the PPC2003 again just to export the stuff into outlook and back again.
There MUST be somekind of solution. I feel I'm pretty close to the solution, but I'm just too tired to continue right now.
I'll also try attach as many as possible.
Thanks for any help in advance!
i have same problem...and im unlucky one cos...i upgrade my sx66 device from wm2003 to wm5 and can u imagine...after i upgrade my PC OS crushes down...so all my sync gone...so i have on storage backup files maked with permament save before...so im wandering can i pull them back somehow...i need my contacts (
Hello. I've checked the previous pages and didn't see anyone having the same question. That probably means i am the only one so dumb in here)))
Basically, last night i was playing with overclocking my XDA Orbit being insured that all the contacts are syncronized. At some point (273MHz) the device stopped responding so i had to soft reset it. Later i found that nothing got lost BUT my contact list with all the numbers. Next, I open Outlook and see that none of them were saved there. WTF is ActiveSync is doing then? And another problem is that i cannot use backup of my old WM2003 contact list because there is no such option as Backup/Restore in WM6. Any ideas? Please,HELP. I really need those numbers back...
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Hello. I've checked the previous pages and didn't see anyone having the same question. That probably means i am the only one so dumb in here)))
Basically, last night i was playing with overclocking my XDA Orbit being insured that all the contacts are syncronized. At some point (273MHz) the device stopped responding so i had to soft reset it. Later i found that nothing got lost BUT my contact list with all the numbers. Next, I open Outlook and see that none of them were saved there. WTF is ActiveSync is doing then? And another problem is that i cannot use backup of my old WM2003 contact list because there is no such option as Backup/Restore in WM6. Any ideas? Please,HELP. I really need those numbers back...
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The contacts in the Orbit are gone...
The contacts in the Outlook not sync'ed hence they too gone...
Cannot import 2003 backup into WM6 - different structure
Option 1 - if you have old outlook backup - you can re-import into new outlook file and they re-sync again
Option 2 - Manually enter all the numbers you remember
Option 3 - Nothing
Basically the fact is if you cannot see the contacts in the fone - they are gone! If you cannot see in outlook they are gone - only option is to get from another source!
You mentioned 2003 backup - what did you take the backup with? Maybe you can still read using the same software and try to retrieve the number - or use another 2003 model to import into it
The backup was taken using Backup/Restore feature of WM2003. But I really wonder now, WHY Microsoft decided not to include this option in WM6? If anything happens, you're properly f****d, like me now.
BTW, WM2003 Contact list backup can be accessed with Notepad, but the data looks a bit messy that way.
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The backup was taken using Backup/Restore feature of WM2003. But I really wonder now, WHY Microsoft decided not to include this option in WM6? If anything happens, you're properly f****d, like me now.
BTW, WM2003 Contact list backup can be accessed with Notepad, but the data looks a bit messy that way.
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Am not in the same situation...was letting you know your options....
Good luck with the retrieval...
don't take it personally, i meant "You" in general
I analyzed the chain of events and it seems like i found the root of the problem. It's was nothing to do with overclocking or the device itself. Its ActiveSync. As I usually don't use Outlook, the contact list there was always empty. And this blessed child of Microsoft instead of copying contacts from XDA to Outlook did it other way round thus erasing everything on the phone. Don't know what to do, laugh or cry, but it's so... so... ridicilous!
Thanx for your help anyway, much appreciated
Hi:
Just got a new phone and used MyPhone to restore sms etc. to my new phone.
Well, it did restore all sms, but it restored them in a crazy, erratic order . Out of date, out of time (for example an sms from 10/25 shows after one from 10/26, and one from 10pm shows after one from 10am etc). Is there anything I can do about arranging them? I did of course try the view by MESSAGE TYPE, FROM etc (in the upper right of messaging), which only rearranged the main/last visible sms in the thread.
Also, the restored texts only show sent texts in TF3D sms tab (TF3D 2.1, WM6.5 stock ATT), but it does not show received texts.
Please help, as everything is a MESS now.
Thanks!
That's a good point. I noticed that too. Also my mms don't get restored with their pictures attached.
I've been having this problem for a bit now, wow, thought it was only me. However, when I log onto myphone on the net, everything is there, very strange
I've suffered the same problem as you guys, but I found a solution. Here are the steps I had to take to ensure the proper order of my SMS.
On your previous device you have to disable SMS threading. Here are the steps to do it (Assuming its WinMo 6.1):
1.) In your registry go to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\
2.) Create new DWORD value name: SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
3.) Set the value for that DWORD to 1
4.) Exit and soft reset device
Now you have to install Jeyo Mobile Companion to back up your SMS on your old device. You can use it as a trial for 30 days. Here is the website: http://www.jeyo.com/companion.asp
1.) Connect your previous device to the software and backup your SMS only (you will be given options to backup contacts and e-mail as well) using the software. It should be self-explanatory to do this. This creates a local backup file on your PC.
2.) Hard reset your Tilt 2
3.) Make sure in your Task Manager that Messaging is not in there
4.) Connect your Tilt 2 to Jeyo Mobile Companion. Choose the restore option to restore your SMS
5.) When the process is complete, go your SMS Inbox. If you see your Inbox sorting out your messages, then your job is complete. If you have a lot of SMS's this process can take a very long time. Do not interrupt the process at all! Just leave the phone idle for a while. If you do not see your Inbox sorting the SMS's continue reading.
6.) Delete all your SMS's on the Tilt 2. Make sure drafts, inbox, and sent items are empty. It can take a while to delete all the messages.
7.) Repeat steps 3-5
This is all based on my experience of restoring the SMS in the right order. If anyone has a simpler and more efficient way of doing this, please post.
Hi:
Thanks for your reply. Sadly I no longer have my old device.
Is there any other way of fixing this problem?
Thanks again!
From my experience, the only way around it is converting your SMS backup to non-threaded SMS backup. I haven't tried this method but you can see if works for you.
I am not sure if AdvancedConfig 3.3 is compatible with WinMo 6.5, but I assume it is. Please research if it is beforehand because I couldn't find confirmation. You can download that app from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
Use that app to disable threaded SMS. Soft Reset and if all went well, your inbox should not have threaded SMS anymore. Then start following my steps from where you install Jeyo Mobile Companion. The only difference is that in the first step, you will be backing up your SMS from your Tilt 2.
Let me know if that works out for you if you decided to try it out.
There were many complaints of this on the MyPhone forums and last I checked, Microsoft said that this was a known issue based on when the device was inserting a given message into the message store.
They said that they were working on it.
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From my experience, the only way around it is converting your SMS backup to non-threaded SMS backup. I haven't tried this method but you can see if works for you.
I am not sure if AdvancedConfig 3.3 is compatible with WinMo 6.5, but I assume it is. Please research if it is beforehand because I couldn't find confirmation. You can download that app from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
Use that app to disable threaded SMS. Soft Reset and if all went well, your inbox should not have threaded SMS anymore. Then start following my steps from where you install Jeyo Mobile Companion. The only difference is that in the first step, you will be backing up your SMS from your Tilt 2.
Let me know if that works out for you if you decided to try it out.
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Hi:
Thanks so much for your replies
So, after restoring with Jeyo, can I then turn threading back on? I can't live without threaded messages lol.
Thanks again!
Oh I am sorry I forgot to mention that. After you backup your messages without the threading, you should hard reset your phone. Then just follow the steps like I mentioned. So yes, your threading should be enabled again by default so you don't have to worry about that on your part.
BTW, please don't forget to keep copies of your old backups (any backup files you had before I made my suggestions).
Hi:
Well when I disabled threaded messaging for some reason it caused my phone to become unresponsive. SMS tab was no longer loading in TF3D, and all of TF3D was basically unusable.
I had to hard reset, and restore with Sprite.
So, now I am back to the messed up SMSes.
Sorry to hear that. Yeah I was lucky enough to still have my old phone to mess around with so I am not sure how get your SMS in order. If you still feel like messing around I still have a few ideas in mind lol.
Forget trying to disable the threaded SMS all together. This time try backing up your SMS on your Tilt 2 using Jeyo. Once it's backed up, look in Jeyo and see how it is arranged. If you see all your received SMS in "Inbox" and sent SMS in "Sent" I guess that is a good sign. Then perform a hard reset on your phone and try restoring your SMS from Jeyo's backup file.
If after the first restore from Jeyo, your message is still out of order, don't panic. Like I mentioned earlier, delete all your SMS's(Not Hard Reset!) and perform the restore a second time. (I don't know the reasoning behind that, but hey it worked for me.)
Das-Man,
I have the HTC Touch Pro 2 with Verizon as my carrier and I tried your method.
I downloaded all my messages back onto my phone via My Phone. They were all out of order. So, I then downloaded Total Companion and edited the registry value as you said, so that they became unthreaded. Went to Jeyo's website, downloaded the program, backed them up.
I deleted all messages in my folders, deleted the registry values, made sure my mms was closed, etc. Then restored my messages. They went back on but they are still unthreaded in my windows sms windows.
I already had my contacts, etc backed up. So, I decided to reflash my rom thinking that it would definitely get rid of my threading edits. That went smoothly, and I tried again.
In the windows txt app they're still unthreaded, but in order. In HTC's texting window, all texts are now separated by author. IE. All of mine are at the top, with all of my correspondents at the bottom. Though they are in the correct order, this still isn't very helpful.
You have any more ideas of what I could do or where I might have gone wrong?
First of all, the HTC's texting Window is a mystery I have not solved yet. Yes, mine also has the same nonsense with the the messages I sent on top while the messages I received on the bottom. I am still researching into it, and if i find a solution, I'll definitely let you know.
Now for your Windows txt app; after you reflashed the rom you said your msgs are still unthreaded after you transferred them. I am not sure if I had the same problem but I remember something was wrong the first time I transferred. That is why I deleted all the text messages and did the transfer process a 2nd time w/o reflashing the rom. In other words, the first transfer usually doesn't work for some odd reason but the 2nd time it does. If you see messages being sorted, then you are good to go, and don't touch it til you are certain it is done. I hope I didn't confuse you lol. BTW is it WM 6.5?
Ugh, this is the most frustrating thing ever.
After reading your post, I reflashed my rom again. Put the txts on once, it was a no go. No sorting happened. I deleted all of them, reconnected to Jeyo, and went to restore again.
Jeyo got through all the inbox and about 1/2 the sent box. Then it errored and closed out, not completing the restore. I went into my inbox to delete this incomplete transfer, and lo and behold what was there began to sort. I left it alone to make sure and everything rethreaded. It was fantastic. But as I said, 1/2 my sent messages were misssing and thus did not get rethreaded in. So, I deleted all my messages again. Repeated process, jeyo didn't error this time.
But of course, now they refuse to rethread. I have deleted/re downloaded probably about 10 times now and not once did it begin to resort my txts. I even reflashed the rom, hoping that it only would work the 2nd time, still no cigar.
I just don't understand what makes the windows messaging app want to rethread or not. Are there special options I should select in the restore? Am I supposed to be checking that overwrite box?
And yes, this is WM 6.5.
When I was doing the transfer, I did not have the overwrite option checked off. The best thing i could suggest, is reflash your Rom. Make sure in task manager that messaging is not in there. Use Jaya to transfer all your SMS to the phone. If it did not thread, make sure you delete all your text messages. Don't use Jaya to delete the SMS's but use the phone. Make sure you delete your sent box, inbox and even drafts. If you have a lot of messages, it can take quite a while to delete so don't panick. When you see everything is clearn try the transfer process again and hopefully it threads. I'm sorry if I'm repeating exactly what you did, but that is the best I can think of.
I got it to work. I had to turn of the threading option when I transferred the texts over. Once they were one, i went and renabled threading. All threaded perfectly. =)
I don't seem to have the problem you are all facing. I tested many different scenarios without turning off Threaded Messaging. First synced all the messages, then archived only a few that were part of a threaded message. they obviously got deleted from the phone. Later I restored the same messages from the archive and voila, they were all back perfectly.
I'm not sure, but many of you might not be aware that there is a new version of MyPhone available. The one that came with my ROM wouldn't work unless I upgraded it, which I did.
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I got it to work. I had to turn of the threading option when I transferred the texts over. Once they were one, i went and renabled threading. All threaded perfectly. =)
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Good to hear. BTW, were you able to get the HTC Messaging to thread properly?
I'm going to be upgrading my TP2 to another device soon (perhaps an HD2), and I'm wondering- what's the best method for backing up SMSes?
I've been using PIMBackup 2.8 for ROM flashes-- it restores all the messages, but the threading gets screwed up (all the other person's messages appear first, then all of mine).
Took a look at Sashimi, but it seems a bit complex just to backup/restore SMSes. Any other solutions?
(the SQLite data stores on the iPhone are so convenient -- SMSes in sms.db, contacts in AddressBook.db, etc., not that you even need to worry about them normally with the iTunes OS upgrade process)
Microsoft MyPhone works surprisingly well...
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Microsoft MyPhone works surprisingly well...
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It's free, automated, and you can you can even access your archived messages from a webpage, so you can just retain recent/current threads on your phone to avoid bogging your SMS module down.
Ah right, hadn't thought of that (MyPhone seems quite useless otherwise-- its contact/calendar sync seems incompatible with Outlook, Exchange, and even MS' own web offerings...).
Just it set up for SMSes, though... let's see if this works
i backup 3 ways before flashing a new rom.
1. PIMbackup, 2.PowerSMS, 3. Myphone.
WHy? i don't know but i use Myphone to restore them
Also to get them to thread properly go into your settings and set the sms threading option to classic (turn threading off). Soft reset, restore you messages, once all are restored then turn threading on and soft reset again.
Let the device site for a while (depending on how many txts your restoring) and they should be threaded properly.
Sometimes MyPhone rethreads them properly without doing this but sometimes it doesnt, i dont like to take chances and have the xml in my UC set the device to classic (unthreaded) message style, so i can just restore, enable threading then SR.
best of luck