Hello,
Im quite new to this forum and read a lot of news about mobile phones lately. I saw a great dual boot application for wimo 6.5 phones to run android.
But now the new Windows Phone 7 is coming I'm thinking if its possible to dualboot it on a android phone.
ofcourse there will be hell a lot of work to get Windows phone 7 on an android device but if it will work out for a HD2 (wich i think will not get the update)
to hack it and install Windows Phone 7 why not try an android like the desire?
I really want to have Windows Phone 7 and I think it'll do good things for mobiles and game developers but i just can't hold it any longer with my n81 from nokia
and Q4 is to far away for me to wait for a new phone (I've read somewhere that the first HTC device with Windows Phone 7 will come in Q4).
regards,
Besuikerd
yes q4 but i think it's gonna be even later as this happens all the time. And i think you should wait at least for a month to see how the new system will perform since this is a major upgrade and not an update like 6.5 to 6.1.
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are there some new informations about it?
It can't be done. Android is open source making it possible (well, legal) to dual boot on WM phones, WM is not.
I'm sure it could be done if someone was brave (or stupid?) enough to get access to the source, but I don't think I would want MS on my back lol.
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Did a quick search on the the forum and didnt find anythign..
Is this going to eventualy be able to be ported for the tilt2?
I have to say i am pissed on what it is looking like so far, I really liked windows mobile because it was different and had multaple devices that you could choese but I would like to try it at least.
I know it may be too early but thought I would see if someone knew
Windows 7
From what I have heard, All current wm 6 phones will not be able to upgrade to wm7. I beleive they are upgrading all phones that will have wm7 system with better, faster processors and the current phones dont have them and ultimately wm7 won't work on them. Consequently wm7 wont be coming out until well into 2011.....atleast the 3rd quarter.....as rumors have it that is....hope that helped.
also it is rumored wm7 requires capacitive touch screens, we have resistive with the tp2.
There will be NO WM7 for the TP2 .. Really I dont want it.. you wont be able to get all the COOL apps we have or do all the things we do to hack out phone as easy! all APPS will need to come through the app store like the apple iphone..
dahauss said:
There will be NO WM7 for the TP2 .. Really I dont want it.. you wont be able to get all the COOL apps we have or do all the things we do to hack out phone as easy! all APPS will need to come through the app store like the apple iphone..
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yep, you also have to use internet explorer, bing search, bing maps, zune marketplace. you get no real customization or third party apps. its horrible. htc sense looks better tbh. what youre gonna want running on your phone in a year is android.
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Did a quick search on the the forum and didnt find anythign..
Is this going to eventualy be able to be ported for the tilt2?
I have to say i am pissed on what it is looking like so far, I really liked windows mobile because it was different and had multaple devices that you could choese but I would like to try it at least.
I know it may be too early but thought I would see if someone knew
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I´m sure a great Chef will manage to port it in some way
Have a read on WP7 section to follow all details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=605
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also it is rumored wm7 requires capacitive touch screens, we have resistive with the tp2.
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Considering the HD2 has a capacitive screen and they were able to port that over to the touch pro 2 I'm sure it IS doable. They also had said they the Sense 2.5 interface would run to slow on our phones and now its blazing fast.
That said.... odd's are it'll get ported to the HD2 well before the touch pro 2.
I have no doubt that it'll get ported though, buy that time though I'd be ready to upgrade my phone anyway
It's extremely doubtful at best that this device will ever see Windows Mobile 7. One problem lies in with the hardware. Windows Mobile 7 will not be made or compiled for the MSM7xxx series of processor, only the newer, faster chipsets like the Tegra and Snapdragon. I don't see any way around that unless we can get the source and compile it ourselves. Next is the kernel. Windows Mobile is designed in such a way that the kernel must fully support the device's hardware. Windows Mobile isn't designed like Windows for PC, where you can simply put it on and it does all the driver work. We need full drivers to run Windows Mobile 7, drivers I might add do not and will never exist unless we write them.
In addition, what about the bootloader? The bootloader will very likley need to be updated so it will boot Windows Mobile 7, but how to go about doing that? Porting a new version of Windows Mobile is a hell of a lot harder than porting Sense 2.5 or any other software. It's also going to be completely different (and more difficult) than porting Windows Mobile 6.5 to Windows Mobile 5 or 6 devices, since the kernel is totally different.
I think that the only way this device will ever get Windows Mobile 7 is if someone has a Windows Mobile 7 Rhodium test ROM for internal use by Microsoft, and it gets leaked here. Otherwise, we're probably out of luck.
It's not that I don't want Windows Mobile 7 on the Rhodium, since I really do, I'm just thinking realistically.
CAN IT BE UPGRADED TO WINDOWS MOBILE??
does it support windows mobile to be installed on it??
Even if it's possible, I don't think "upgrading" is the correct term.
he might means wp7S
Why would you buy a brand new Android phone and even want to change the OS - astounded!!
I think he means "porting" to WM. I am also wondering if this would be possible to port to WM7S with this device, although, strict hardware chassis requirements would be required (Back, Start and Search button on all Windows Phone 7 Series devices).
I didnt think it was possible to run WM on an android phone, i always thought that android on WM was only possible
Currently, there is no way of installing Windows Mobile on any Android phone
But you can install Android on Windows Mobile on selected devices.
Porting WP7 to the desire would be a downgrade, not an upgrade. WP7 is going to be even more watered down than the iPhone OS, and a trident based web browser... no thanks
Oh dear, getting deja vu feelings here. Let's say it's a recurring topic when new Android devices come out And every time the replies are about the same lol
WP7 offers classic mode
If the news is true and not an April Fool's joke, WP7 will offer a classic mode download once it's launched and we will be able to run all wm6.5.3 programs on it, similar to WinXP mode on Win7. This will be a good reason to port over to WP7 right?
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Oh well, after doing just a bit more googling it appears to be just another joke.
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If the news is true and not an April Fool's joke, WP7 will offer a classic mode download once it's launched and we will be able to run all wm6.5.3 programs on it, similar to WinXP mode on Win7. This will be a good reason to port over to WP7 right?
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Oh well, after doing just a bit more googling it appears to be just another joke.
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I actually believe it would be easier just to make kind of Windows Mobile emulator or virtualization, something like wine on linux to run wm classic software on android rather than porting to proprietary platform
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I actually believe it would be easier just to make kind of Windows Mobile emulator or virtualization, something like wine on linux to run wm classic software on android rather than porting to proprietary platform
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WINE exists for desktop linux but it's been developed on for years. I'm sure something is possible it's just a case of who would want to adopt and code such a product. And anyway, I think if something was attempted it would be to emulate iPhone apps on Android not WM apps.
I couldn't believe the title of this thread. WHY would anyone want to do this ?
Stick to Android. It will fair you well.
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Actually, its remarkably simple to get your Desire to run an almost identical experience to Windows Mobile. Just put it on the floor, and then stamp on it at least fifteen times. Then leave it in the bath for at least an hour.
Upgraded?!?
Windows Mobile is dead and Windows Phone 7 sucks balls, it's worse than iPhone OS.
Nice reactions to Windows Mobile!
I only had wm5 on an old mda compact ii, just got my desire with android and OMG, who would ever take android off their phone? !
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Actually, its remarkably simple to get your Desire to run an almost identical experience to Windows Mobile. Just put it on the floor, and then stamp on it at least fifteen times. Then leave it in the bath for at least an hour.
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LMFAO!!
At least there wasn't any flaming of the OP this time....
Why would you want to port winmo-CRAP to an android phone like the HTC Desire ???????????????????/
While I'm not a fan of microsoft in general, I have a Topaz presently and I do like both the phone and the HTC Sense/TF3D interface. I also have a collection of apps that I've grown quite fond of, apps that AFAIK don't have any Android counterparts.
In fact, the only things I'd like to improve on the Topaz is a slightly larger screen and much faster CPU. If I could have the Desire with winmo 6.5 or 6.5.x this would fit the bill perfectly.
I know of the supposed HTC Obsession/Diamond 3, but it's supposed to run WP7 and with the kind of functionality sacrifices that means (copy/paste, multitasking, no 3rp party UIs/skins) I'm not tempted.
Each to their own, live and let live. Just because you don't understand why, doesn't make it wrong.
Why on earth would anyone want to install WM on the Desire??
I think its possible like some of the members said, using WINE or something, but i doubt that anyone would be interested (maybe just for experimental purposes)
profet said:
Actually, its remarkably simple to get your Desire to run an almost identical experience to Windows Mobile. Just put it on the floor, and then stamp on it at least fifteen times. Then leave it in the bath for at least an hour.
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Made my day!
Hi, I see that the Hd2 aka leo can run all this kind of os, so i ask me, if the Dhd have a better hardware can this one run all this os? is there someone who are working on it? is only an request information.
1) I dont know if anyone is working on it.
2) I dont see why would anyone want to port Ubuntu, kubuntu, Win 9x, except for the "I can do it" feeling
3) Android and Win phone 7 were bound to come HD2 - the phone is more or less on pas with its younger (EU) cousins Desire, DHD and HD7. When I bought mine HD2, there was this rumour that HD2 is getting the new MS OS 100%. When MS and HTC said it is not going to happen, it was a matter of time everyone to try and find a better OS for the hardware to play with... I think the opportunity to do something better with that piece of hardware the reason for so many hacks
4) On the other hand, DHD cannot get a better OS - it already has one. Probably someone with enough skills and time might port something to DHD, but I dont thing think we will see that many different OSs run on the device. I think in an year or so, when HTC stop pushing newer Android versions to the device, then we will see proliferations of various bulds...
Could there be a way to have the windows 8.1 on our M7? I seen today where they released the windows version on the M8 at verizon today and I was just curious if it could be done?
Thanks
Aggies1288 said:
Could there be a way to have the windows 8.1 on our M7? I seen today where they released the windows version on the M8 at verizon today and I was just curious if it could be done?
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anythings possible but it would take a lot of work. i dont even know the logistics of it and wouldnt be very helpful.
maybe a dev could chime in.
If I were in the position at Microsoft to institute a pirate dual-boot development campaign for Windows Phone, I would have a lot of fun doing it. Generate market buzz for Windows Phone by giving those with suitable devices the opportunity to install a "free operating system upgrade".
The challenges would be as much legal and political as technical - working with OEM and carrier partners who're nervous about unlocked bootloaders, etc. A marketing campaign that isn't about getting people to buy new hardware so much as giving new life to devices already out there... I would target recent Google Nexus devices (they're open, right?), then do an assessment of iPhone 5* and the legality of a push-button JailBreak app: "Tired of your stuffy iPhone? click here for some open Windows". yeah, redmond could have fun with this and make some noise where they need good marketing more than anything, Simply put, I would look closer at Windows Phone for my next upgrade if they did something like this. Do something nice for the enthusiasts and influencers, etc.
If you had the M8 it might be possible, but not on the M7
Know hawk has hinted about trying to port a Windows os to the m7. Again just talked about it a little. So till at least a dev tries and you know someone will try to do it. We will have to sit and wait till they do.
Until the Windows m8 is even unlocked (as the Chevron method will no longer work) and someone manages to make a dump from it, nothing will happen.
Maybe it will still be possible to pay a fee and register it as a Developer device, for publishing apps to the market.
Then when that does happen, getting it to boot on the Android m8 will be the first challenge at hand, as it will have to have the bootloader and firmware ported as well.
Getting all of that ported over to any other device will be a huge challenge and I wouldn't personally hold my breath on anyone getting this done, anytime soon, if at all.
Just being straight about it.
It's not the same as porting android from one device to another.
In my opinion, Cotulla would be the guy to do this for the m7, if he has any interest in doing so, but again that's just my opinion.
We will see what happens... As stated not possible without a dump though
Revamped 2.0 Lunar 4.4.3
well the HTC HD2 was able to get windows 6.5, windows 7, android, unbuntu, and Meego all on one phone so this is highly possible but as Hawknest said, we would need a dump first.
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with some work, Grub bootloader can be loaded onto the M7. But thats another topic all together.
Problem is even it you port windows 8, Microsoft will pull it from forums..
Hi there,
10240 is not the worst build of Windows 10 Mobile and since we can install it very easily on some devices (Lumia 640, 640 XL and 930) I'm wondering why everyone lost interest in trying to make Astoria work "better" like porting the PlayStore for example.
I for one think it would be still worth putting some effort into it. Just look at the Blackberry guys, they were successful into porting the PlayStore and even got Pokemon Go running. I'm betting there would be a couple of people going back just to play this game.
Unfortunately it doesn't work without the PlayStore (actually doesn't even start, just a black screen).
Astoria is kill OP... If you want Pokemon GO - buy an Android phone or wait till developer will port it.
Jesus ....this community sucks bigtime, everyones answer is ....go buy android. I give windows phone a few more years and will be non existent, simply because I'm finding out what type of ppl own it, I cant wait to scrap this thing and get another android phone, big mistake giving it a chance, 1 year 11 months to go.
boe323 said:
Jesus ....this community sucks bigtime, everyones answer is ....go buy android. I give windows phone a few more years and will be non existent, simply because I'm finding out what type of ppl own it, I cant wait to scrap this thing and get another android phone, big mistake giving it a chance, 1 year 11 months to go.
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" ...go buy android " is the best answer for those who want to put everything in windows mobile 10,project astoria is an experimental thing to attract android developers to windows mobile,it had security flaws and more resource incentive ,can't have access like normal windows app,WM10 is in continuous development in performance and features,sticking to old 10240 is not good for long run ,no windows phone is cheaper than android ,you can easily buy android phone with => specs with same price and had all apps you want,and be happy there.
windows mobile 10 is strictly for those who needs
1) simple and elegant interface
2)security
3)consistency in performance
4)continuum
5)continuous OS updates
raghulive said:
" ...go buy android " is the best answer for those who want to put everything in windows mobile 10,project astoria is an experimental thing to attract android developers to windows mobile,it had security flaws and more resource incentive ,can't have access like normal windows app,WM10 is in continuous development in performance and features,sticking to old 10240 is not good for long run ,no windows phone is cheaper than android ,you can easily buy android phone with => specs with same price and had all apps you want,and be happy there.
windows mobile 10 is strictly for those who needs
1) simple and elegant interface
2)security
3)consistency in performance
4)continuum
5)continuous OS updates
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I really don't understand the "go buy android" comments at all, especially because you're saying things "its not secure". Since when did android get secure at all, you most likely don't get security updates at all.
There are a lot of people out there on different platforms, blackberry, webOS etc. where people still trying to get some apps to work that normally won't even if those OS are not supported anymore. Even with Windows RT people trying to keep it alive with jailbreak and things.
I for one was looking for other people like me, who like to tinker with things and maybe find some ways to improve astoria even if its OUTDATED, DEAD, UNSECURE, and whatever you will call it