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XDA 2s Wifi Guide anyone?

Hi guys, I recently destroyed my XDA2 and got a 2s on the insurance
Bluetooth on WM2003 SE if fair poor, but I managed to upgrade the stack thinger to 3900..... so I'm not completely XDA illiterate.
However, the wifi baffles me! I have access to an unsecured wireless network with internet access, and my 2s will connect to it. When I go on the the internet on my XDA, even with wifi connected it still tries to connect GPRS to use the internet. If I keep clicking cancel, it will load the page (presumably through the wireless network's internet access).
It has become clear that I have no idea what I'm doing with regards to networking. Could someone post a quick guide as to how to set up the wifi (from scratch) so that when it finds an unsecured network it will automatically use it for the internet.
Sorry if there's already a thread on this but I really can't find it. Cheers guys
-Mike

just what i need as well, i have just bought a wifi router so i can use the internet on my xda2s.
using the wireless manger -> wireless LAN manager i get:
STATUS: connected to network
SSID: NETGEAR
TX RATE: AUTO
MODE:INFRASTRUCTURE
CHANNEL 11
BSSID: 00-09-5B-D7-DC-2A
MAC: 00-09-2D-0B-C0-A6
but even when i pull the Ethnet cable (forgot how its spelt) out of the back of the router it still stays connected. so im thinking its more my PC than the xda. the thing is the router came with no software so i have no idea if its connected properly. when i pull this Ethnet cable out of the wifi router o get network cable unplugged. The network card is Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller. Which I have never used.
if anyone has a any ideas it would stop me pulling my hair out.
Sorry to hijack this thread

mike freegan said:
However, the wifi baffles me! I have access to an unsecured wireless network with internet access, and my 2s will connect to it. When I go on the the internet on my XDA, even with wifi connected it still tries to connect GPRS to use the internet. If I keep clicking cancel, it will load the page (presumably through the wireless network's internet access).
-Mike
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Mike, I dont think the wifi first and GPRS next works. It doesnt work properly on mine either. If I try a internet access via gprs and a local wifi is readily available, the system does not automatically switch to local wifi.....I think this could be a microsoft issue than a xda issue.

robboy said:
but even when i pull the Ethnet cable (forgot how its spelt) out of the back of the router it still stays connected. so im thinking its more my PC than the xda. the thing is the router came with no software so i have no idea if its connected properly. when i pull this Ethnet cable out of the wifi router o get network cable unplugged. The network card is Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller. Which I have never used.
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when u pull out the ethernet cable from the back of the router, can you still surf the net from you xda or PC?? that seems odd. So either you are not connecting to "your" own router, or someone else has a same router with unsecured setup and you were locked onto their service....if you follow what I mean. what happens if you kill the power to your router? you should definitely notice that the wifi service disappear in your xda and PC.
Dont expect a router to disappear by simply unplugging the ethernet cable, if the router is powered up, it will show up on your xda and the PC although obviously there will be no internet access.....

sorry if i wasn't clear. i meant i was still receiving a signal from the wifi router. i could never use the internet on the pda
update:
i can browse my pc files wirelessly using resco explorer, using the standard file explorer i can view the pc files using \\network/c and i have finally been able to connect to activesync.
however i still can not connect to the internet.
Any ideas, from looking on this forum it seems lots of peeps are having problems with this but nobody seems to have the answer

XDA Wi-Fi Solution....It Works!!!!
Hi,
I'm new to the forum and new to XDA2i (presumably XDA2s is same!) ....
I too had many frustrations connecting the wi-fi...but now I've cracked it, here's how.......
On first very first use (or following a hard re-set) device users are prompted to choose “What do you want WLAN to connect to?” The option bullets are ‘Internet’ or ‘Work’….’Work’ should be selected, this will connect them to the nearest WLAN (if this network is WEP encrypted it should be switched to ‘Open’ rather than ‘shared’ as is often the case).
Next prompt asks for any WEP Encryption ‘Pass Key’ to be input, when doing so omit any ‘-‘ between character pairs. Normal start-up should then be completed. Once device is up and running…..
From ‘Start’ pull-down on the ‘Today Screen’ select…. ‘settings’>’connections tab’>’connections icon’>’advanced tab’>’Select Networks’> pull-down ‘My Work Network’ > ‘OK’ out of selections to save and exit.
Go to ‘Wireless Manager’ in programs, select WLAN icon from main screen (which should turn green to show active), then select mini ‘WLAN’ icon from lower toolbar to see the status of the connection, quality of signal etc.
That did it for me......
Cheers
windupmerchant

WiFi problems

Hello.
I've got a rather anoying problem
I can't set up my device to automaticly choose to use wifi for programs that accesses the internet.
This causes the phone to enable an gprs connection every time i try to access the internet instead.
I have sucsessfully set ut the phone to connect to my wifi network and the communication works (skype runs)
In troubleshooting on HTC webpage you can find these instructions:
On your handset, 1. Click start > settings > connctions > connections > Advanced >Select Networks: Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using: "Internet".
My problem is that the option "internet" dosent exixt in the menu, can i have missed something in the setup?

Are you by nay chance using an O2 orbit? If so this is a 'feature' that O2 have introduced to make themselves richer. Check out the other posts on this subject

strongp said:
Are you by nay chance using an O2 orbit? If so this is a 'feature' that O2 have introduced to make themselves richer. Check out the other posts on this subject
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So what is the best way to get around it??? Another program to help us disable their "feature" and allow us to access the setting we need???

strongp said:
Are you by nay chance using an O2 orbit? If so this is a 'feature' that O2 have introduced to make themselves richer. Check out the other posts on this subject
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I've got an orbit and can use the internet, email and anything that needs to access the internet via connecting to my wifi router?
I doesn't access the gprs.

NickR said:
I've got an orbit and can use the internet, email and anything that needs to access the internet via connecting to my wifi router?
I doesn't access the gprs.
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i hve an orbit but sicne i opeend the box i shoved in my t-mobile sim
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if it is activted how is gprs being used now with another sim??

NickR said:
I've got an orbit and can use the internet, email and anything that needs to access the internet via connecting to my wifi router?
I doesn't access the gprs.
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Stupid question I guess but how do you know for definite that it is not connecting via gprs???

wombat45 said:
Stupid question I guess but how do you know for definite that it is not connecting via gprs???
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a message comes up at the top of the screen saying connecting : o2 Active
If you have wifi on as well they both appear in the connectivity list.
Cheers
NICK

I prefer wifi to GPRS
I've the same problem. No answers for me in the rest of the threads. I can't select mi wifi connections without ti disable the GPRS connection.
HTC P3300 rom movistar Spain

Hi,
First post here.
I experienced similar problems just like you. What I did was to ring up O2 and asked them to disable GPRS on my line because my XDA Orbit was defaulting to GPRS connection whenever I tried to connect to the Internet using WiFi. I told them that I was very unhappy about it. Needless to say, they promptly disabled it.
After this, I saw an X on the title bar, where the GPRS connection used to show up (next to the signal strength).
I no longer have the default GPRS connection whenever I try to access the Internet via WiFi. This means that I can now surf the Internet from my PDA without having to incur any data charge.
kiwi992.

Well I have no problems, it all works as it should, the programs use the connection already established or connects to GPRS. If it is plugged in on USB it uses that. If you make a Wi-Fi connection it uses that. If you don't make either of those it connects to GPRS. But it won't look to make a Wi-Fi connection first. None of my devices have done that, not just the Orbit.

aloisia said:
I've the same problem. No answers for me in the rest of the threads. I can't select mi wifi connections without ti disable the GPRS connection.
HTC P3300 rom movistar Spain
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That is done on purpose as a security measure, you can not have two simultaneous connections (except if your using the phone as a modem when you can have USB & GPRS.)

Hi, Maskedmaraudore. Thanks for your answer. For me the problem isn't it: often I've both connections simultaneously (I supose, both are connected but only one is working and carrying out data, it's clair).
Problem is: with both active connections (wifi correctly started and GPRS available), but no sessions initiated, I run any program having an automatic connection to internet (explorer, outlook,...), and the device starts a GPRS connection without use the current, and able, wireless connection. Why I must pay with GPRS having my home wifi active???
I've the program "NO GPRS", that I found in this forum, I think, but not always I remember to use it: I only want that HTC choice wifi if it's available.
Thanks,

wireless problems on my Orbit

Hi All,
I have a problem with the wireless connection on my Orbit.
When I try to connect to the internet the first time via my router I am assigned an ip address via DHCP and everything works fine. After I have left the device for a couple of minute and try to connect to the internet I just get the message Locating from the internet explorer and it will not connect to the internet unless I reboot.
I have tried the following to try and resolve.
Assign Static IP Address and DNS Servers
Removed all Encrytion and Mac Address filtering from the router.
I have tried to stream internet radio to see when it drops the connection.
Tried continuously pinging the router deafult gateway.
Disabled powersave options.
I would like the device to always stayed connected so that I can send and recieve Skype calls
Has anyone else experience this problem ?

I have exactly the same problem with you (my device is the HTC P3300) and I have tried everything you mention -apart from the ping and streaming audio - but no effect whatsoever.
I suspect that the problem lies with my wireless modem-router (USRobotics 9108) but I have yet to find something useful for it. Others I have asked have no such problem.
Someone mentioned that in "my network connects to" in the wireless network adapter settings we should check "Work" instead of "The internet". Haven't tried that yet though.
Do you have the same problem with other types of internet connection e.g via usb?

USB and GRPS work fine! It is just the wireless that has the problem, it seems like the device is loosing it's connection to the router even though it retains an ip address. When you try to ping from the phone to the router you get timeout request.
Even when you release and renew the ip address it still will not work, the only way I have found to make it work is either to reboot or turn the wireless off then back on.
I just wonder if there are any timeout values that shutdown the wireless connection after a certain amount of time?

Some remarks...
I used Media player with streaming audio via wifi and guess what? It didn't stop a couple of minutes later as I expected but kept playing for 15-20 mins. The P3300 was on power supply all the time. Then I quit from Media player and browse the net for a while. After about 5 mins... here we go again. I beleive that IE has some kind of counter that when exceeded (data, time?) it stops connecting. The funny thing is that afterwards neither media player streams nor skype worked.
On the other hand I tried skype on a new session without ever opening IE and guess what? It worked like a charm for about an hour... It never stopped responding. Now what do you make out of this?

I thought it may be IE causing the problem so I installed Netfront 3.3.
Same problem! I don't think it is the browser causing I have the same problem with Netfront.
When the connection goes I use pocket lan to ping from the phone to the router and do not get a reply.
The fact that we can stream music/video and use skype for long periods of time with out problems leads me to believe that once you initiate a constant outbound session from the phone to the router it is fine but as soon as disconnect this session this is when the problems start.
I think there maybe a registry setting for the wireless card may need changing.
I will check later and post my findings....

Any luck with our problem?

Could it be a ram allocation thing to do with IE? As I don't seem to have this problem with the WIFI but I do find that my orbit slows down to an unacceptable rate during IE use or until I use space reclaimer etc.

JC#79 said:
Could it be a ram allocation thing to do with IE? As I don't seem to have this problem with the WIFI but I do find that my orbit slows down to an unacceptable rate during IE use or until I use space reclaimer etc.
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I don't beleive so, because my P3300 is working as it should except that it won't download any pages after a while. If I check RAM afterwards is pretty much acceptable. The machine will not slow down at all it just stops downloading as if the connection is broken (but its not).

make sure under settings/connections you have a a setting called MY ISP, if not then make a new one.
then go to settings/connections/advanced and "select networks", make sure BOTH say using "MY ISP"
then go to settings/wifi and click on network adaptors and make sure it says "my network card connects to the internet
Voila all problems solved !

hb328_dtdd said:
make sure under settings/connections you have a a setting called MY ISP, if not then make a new one.
then go to settings/connections/advanced and "select networks", make sure BOTH say using "MY ISP"
then go to settings/wifi and click on network adaptors and make sure it says "my network card connects to the internet
Voila all problems solved !
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I certainly don't have "MY ISP" !!!!
How can I add one? the only thing I can see in this screen is "internet" in bold and below "add new modem connection", "add new VPN connection", "Proxy server...". When I choose "add new modem connection" it asks for my modem type (GPRS, irda, bluetooth, COM1) and afterwards "call number" and such...
Which one should I choose for MY ISP?
I think that there used to be a "MY ISP" but I must have erased it...

go to manage connections/add new

Thx for info, I figured it out...

no problem m8. any other problems give me a shout, I have only had the Orbit for around a week but have sussed most of the problems out including loop resets etc.

vaggoul said:
I certainly don't have "MY ISP" !!!!
How can I add one? the only thing I can see in this screen is "internet" in bold and below "add new modem connection", "add new VPN connection", "Proxy server...". When I choose "add new modem connection" it asks for my modem type (GPRS, irda, bluetooth, COM1) and afterwards "call number" and such...
Which one should I choose for MY ISP?
I think that there used to be a "MY ISP" but I must have erased it...
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Even I havent found something like My ISP and tried but could not create one...
After connecting to WIFI when i use i-net, it starts with GPRS... similar to the problem explained above..
hb328_dtdd, could u please help...

vaggoul said:
I certainly don't have "MY ISP" !!!!
How can I add one? the only thing I can see in this screen is "internet" in bold and below "add new modem connection", "add new VPN connection", "Proxy server...". When I choose "add new modem connection" it asks for my modem type (GPRS, irda, bluetooth, COM1) and afterwards "call number" and such...
Which one should I choose for MY ISP?
I think that there used to be a "MY ISP" but I must have erased it...
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Even I havent something like My ISP and tried but could not create one...
After connecting to WIFI when i use i-net, it starts with GPRS... similar to the problem explained above..
hb328_dtdd, could u please help...

I'm having trouble and can't figure out how to do the setting for the internet. Can anyone post a step by step guide on how to do it? TIA

When u say settings for the internet do u mean for wifi?

Yes, I mean for wifi

First of all read the manual. Or try the following. If all fails try to be more specific about your problem.
1. Make sure wireless network is up and running.
2. Press Comm Manager and press wireless icon.
3. Usually it scans automatically for nearby networks
4. If a network is found is announces the network's name and if a connection is desired.
5. You enter password (WEP, WAP, or whatever u have)
6. Connection established.
It is recommended to use in "start>settings>wireless network>power" the slider in "better performance" setting. Leave others as is.
Tip: if u open Internet Explorer before a connection is established (check for the apropriate icon) then it connects automatically with GPRS.

Network/Connection/Communication Manager for my HTC Artemis/XDA Orbit
I've got a problem with my device's connection Manager in Setting/Connection/Connection. I am able to add any connections using ISP, GPRS, bluetooth... but can only use the last one added. I have no facility to manage these connections or switch between these (this is rather strange, I've always been able to manage this on my previous devices).
I am therefore left confused with this. I have tried to download a communication manager, but this one did not work.
Any ideas from anyone?
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problem with live messenger on wm 6

whenever I want to sign in to msn live messenger, my hermes tries to connect to gprs connection. even when I have free direct access to internet through wifi connection.
I tried everything but it still tries to connect.
Apart from live messenger I can connect to every type of internet service through the active wifi connection.
Is this a bug o the live messenger ?
Is there any newer version that beats this bug ?

I believe that it is a "feature" of WLM that no user actually wants but the network operators are quite happy with and probably had a say in.
Best workaround I know of is to have a network set up with no connections defined, and select that in Settings > Connections tab > Connections > Advanced tab > Select Networks. You may already have a network defined there called "Wifi" (my Orange M3100 did).
If you do that, all apps will be forced through wifi (if enabled), but if you want to use GPRS, you will have to switch the network back.
Anyone know of any apps that will make it quick and easy to change this with a single button click? I hoped that Phoneweaver would have it in the profiles but it doesn't

Disconnect from grps...then sign in to msn... then click cancel when it says "connecting"

unwired4 said:
Disconnect from grps...then sign in to msn... then click cancel when it says "connecting"
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interesting, it works.
but if I reset, then connect to gprs for any other reason.
and then disconnect.
then it never connects to msn with no gprs connection.
after a reset it works again.
thanks for the workaround...

Getting internet working in wifi through proxy

Hi guys.
I'm trying to get my TP2 to work over wifi using my works proxy server...
I've managed to get it to connect fine at home, and can get it to connect to sites which do not require the proxy to access, but when I need to use the proxy, it just won't access (as if the proxy server is not set up correctly).
Now maybe I don't have it set up correctly?! This is what I've got:
Settings -> All Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Networks:
Programs the automatically connect to the Internet should connect using: mobile web
Programs the automatically connect to a private network should connect using: My Work Network
The "mobile web" option was set up by the Settings -> Communications -> Data Connection, and allows me to use gprs/hsdpa to connect to my provider (O2).
Is there something I have set up wrong? Or is there a way that I can get it to connect to the internet using the work proxy?
Many thanks,
David

Surely someone can help me to get the correct set up for this?

Another bump in case someone decides that they might know a way?

i am also having the same problem, my uni requires all http traffic to go through a web cache proxy script. iv tryed all sorts and it generally just ends up freezing as soon as i try connect to a remote web page

Me too, having the same issue. I managed to connect to my company WiFi after spending the effort of downloading and installing the certificates.
With a big breath, when I connected to Internet, nothing worked. And spent nearly an hour searching this forum for a resolution but couldnt get hold of anything.
Our company uses a URL with the option of 'Use automatic configuration script' in IE. And I dont how to configure this in my TP2.
Man, just checked with my colleague having an iPhone. It was a breeze. The HTTP Proxy has 3 options 1. On, 2. Off 3. Auto and when you enable Auto, it allows to enter the URL with the field label URL. Its a breeze. Why is it so difficult in WM????

Bump....
Please, anyone can give some pointers or if it is not doable? Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you.

yogam1 said:
Me too, having the same issue. I managed to connect to my company WiFi after spending the effort of downloading and installing the certificates.
With a big breath, when I connected to Internet, nothing worked. And spent nearly an hour searching this forum for a resolution but couldnt get hold of anything.
Our company uses a URL with the option of 'Use automatic configuration script' in IE. And I dont how to configure this in my TP2.
Man, just checked with my colleague having an iPhone. It was a breeze. The HTTP Proxy has 3 options 1. On, 2. Off 3. Auto and when you enable Auto, it allows to enter the URL with the field label URL. Its a breeze. Why is it so difficult in WM????
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Reply from HTC on this....
Thank you for contacting HTC.
With reference to your query, we are sorry because HTC phone can only automatic receive the Wifi signal or use SSID to access to the Wifi network, it cannot check the URL to get the connection.
You can go to Start - Settings - All Settings - Connections - Wifi. Please turn on Wifi there first. Then go to Advanced. Please take a note for the MAC address there and go to your server to add this MAC address to connect it with your phone.
Thank you for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Hotline: 1800 238 7788
Service Hours: 8 am - 8 pm, Monday - Saturday (except Public Holidays)

Dear All,
Managed to resolve this. My issue was that we had an Automatic Configuration Script in the IE. Hence managed to look into the script for the Proxy Server and the port and set it up in the 'My Work' connections. Also edited the WiFi connection to connect to 'My Work' and i got it working.