I`m a Kaiser Owner, and looking at the Rhodium as a possible upgrade, but like many others here I`m sure, I`m concerned about iffy video performance. HTC really seem to have dropped the ball on this one, my experiences of the Kaisers video have made me wary.
Anyone heard any feedback on this topic? Anyone with a pre-production model give us a heads up?
For example, could the Rhodium play a 640*480 WMV video without dropping frames?
Same processor as the old TP must mean same video issues, right?
I had Kaiser, and with the right encoding & software video was absolutely fine! I don't know what all the complaints were about.
The Xperia can handle full resolution video pretty well if encoded correctly, and I'm sure this will be the case with the TP2 as well, as the hardware should be powerful enough to do it.
I can't comment on the Touch Pro, as I haven't used one. The TP2 has quite a high-res screen, but I'm sure it'll be fairly easy to get a decent video experience from it.
DavidMc0 said:
I had Kaiser, and with the right encoding & software video was absolutely fine! I don't know what all the complaints were about.
The Xperia can handle full resolution video pretty well if encoded correctly, and I'm sure this will be the case with the TP2 as well, as the hardware should be powerful enough to do it.
I can't comment on the Touch Pro, as I haven't used one. The TP2 has quite a high-res screen, but I'm sure it'll be fairly easy to get a decent video experience from it.
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I think they made the drivers for the touch pro better didnt they? the 3d ones? so if they did yeah it will be VERY good if they do that for this to which I bet they will if they did for the old one
Won't be burned again!
Link278 said:
I think they made the drivers for the touch pro better didnt they? the 3d ones? so if they did yeah it will be VERY good if they do that for this to which I bet they will if they did for the old one
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To my knowledge nothing has been improved with the drivers for the touch pro. I have a Sprint TP and video sucks on it. Some ppl have messed around with 3d drivers with various levels of success, but nothing official has been done. There's a whole sticky thread at PPCGeeks on TP video playback tips:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=57282
So far I haven't really got anything to work for me reliably. What ppl fail to realize is that having a bigger/better screen is only going to make things worse if the hardware/drivers aren't improved. 320x200 video played fine on my Touch and probably would be fine on my TP, but going to 640x400 is 4x the resolution.
Unless HTC improves the 3d/video drivers, the TP2 is going to be as bad or worse than the TP because it is the same stinking hardware. I was so disappointed that the TP2 is just a rehashed TP which really has no better hardware than the Touch--just better screens w/o the greater horsepower to drive them.
I hope I am wrong about this and the TP2 video and graphics are awesome, but I certainly will not upgrade to it until I am certain the situation is improved.
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To my knowledge nothing has been improved with the drivers for the touch pro. I have a Sprint TP and video sucks on it. Some ppl have messed around with 3d drivers with various levels of success, but nothing official has been done. There's a whole sticky thread at PPCGeeks on TP video playback tips:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=57282
So far I haven't really got anything to work for me reliably. What ppl fail to realize is that having a bigger/better screen is only going to make things worse if the hardware/drivers aren't improved. 320x200 video played fine on my Touch and probably would be fine on my TP, but going to 640x400 is 4x the resolution.
Unless HTC improves the 3d/video drivers, the TP2 is going to be as bad or worse than the TP because it is the same stinking hardware. I was so disappointed that the TP2 is just a rehashed TP which really has no better hardware than the Touch--just better screens w/o the greater horsepower to drive them.
I hope I am wrong about this and the TP2 video and graphics are awesome, but I certainly will not upgrade to it until I am certain the situation is improved.
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wow then check this out u might be able to get alot more out of your touch pro but I am not sure because I have a kaiser
http://www.fuzemobility.com/the-new-3d-drivers-are-here-with-video/
Link278 said:
wow then check this out u might be able to get alot more out of your touch pro but I am not sure because I have a kaiser
http://www.fuzemobility.com/the-new-3d-drivers-are-here-with-video/
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Thanks for pointing that out. I am going to try them and they will probably help some, but I had already heard about it and for the most part they only address part of the problem.
If, and it's a BIG IF, HTC fully optimized ALL the drivers for the TP2, then it could be quite a bit better than the TP. Given HTC's crappy history I would have to have it thoroughly proven to me before I would believe it. However I am hoping against experience that it will be the case.
Maybe this is one of the big reasons why they stuck with much of the same hardware. So they could optimize everything. Hopefully.
Poke_N_PDA said:
Maybe this is one of the big reasons why they stuck with much of the same hardware. So they could optimize everything. Hopefully.
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I really hope you're right because I never thought of that, but I heard the new touchflo is alot smoother
scoob101 said:
I`m a Kaiser Owner, and looking at the Rhodium as a possible upgrade, but like many others here I`m sure, I`m concerned about iffy video performance. HTC really seem to have dropped the ball on this one, my experiences of the Kaisers video have made me wary.
Anyone heard any feedback on this topic? Anyone with a pre-production model give us a heads up?
For example, could the Rhodium play a 640*480 WMV video without dropping frames?
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Hello, I would have to say that the video quality is 100% better than the TP. I have been watching full videos with NO quality loss in sound or video. I was using the Sprint Touch Pro and was not very happy, but the TP2 is perfect. I can even get 2 full movies out of one charge!!! I have been watching a lot of DivX movies the same ones I watch on my PC, with no issues (well, except each one takes up about 700MB.)
The set up I have been using is, CorePlaer and the D3D Driver. DivX player works well also, but the text gets very small due to the resolution. Hope this helps!
Core player
Video quality is great with core player. Watched 2 movies on my TP2 today and it was very good with great frame rate. And I could use higher res mp4 movies if i wanted to and still keep 100% playback so i havent even pushed it yet. Totally recommended.
I can play a 800x480 AVC encoded movie with aac+ audio at ~1.2Mbit without any hiccups through HTC's video player. Coreplayer on the otherhand can't come anywhere near handling this. Looks damn good too! I used MEGUI with AVC Zune settings to make the video from a bluray movie. It's about 1GB in size.
curious
Just curious why the video player thats built in will play only some of my mp4 files? Thats one of the reasons why I went with coreplayer was because most of my mp4 movies would play a green screen with audio on the built in player and wmp.
Anyone know if TP2 has the same qtv video hardware acceleration?
I'm surprised nobody has posted anything about qtv.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=57282
I have a TP and mp4 video plays flawlessly through HTC album because it has the proper qtv drivers. My problem has been with playing divx in coreplayer with the reverse engineered qtv driver. I was hoping that HTC would drop qtv in the TP2 so that I could play divx in a player with proper video drivers. Does anyone know if HTC still uses qtv in the TP2?
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Just curious why the video player thats built in will play only some of my mp4 files? Thats one of the reasons why I went with coreplayer was because most of my mp4 movies would play a green screen with audio on the built in player and wmp.
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MP4 is a file format that supports a few different video codec. Mostly like the green screen means the video codec isn't supported by the player. I would highly recommend these days to encode the video with H.264 as the video codec. This codec is the standard supported by all major companies these days, Apple, Adobe, MS, etc. Some video cameras like the Sanyo Xacti also captures video natively as MP4 (H.264) so there is no need to encode the video.
And TP2 plays MP4 (H.264) video well both in HTC Album and WMP.
There are rumours of HD video recording for the Desire, but why isn't this available for the Nexus one if they have the same hardware?
Source: http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/coming-soon/
HD support will come with a firmware update, the hardware can do it, but the software doesnt yet
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010...d+(MobileTechWorld)&utm_content=Google+Reader
I was thinking the same after reading all news about the Sprint HTC Evo:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Evo_4G
including the HTC Sense user experience, an 8.0 megapixel auto-focus camera/camcorder with support for recording HD-capable video at 720p ...
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It uses the same Snapdragon 1GHz (except this one for CDMA).
I dont know if the 8MP camera has anything to do with 720p recording ...
So, this HD 720p recording definitely only the software, which I assume:
- The CAMERA
I guess, we can rip the software from HTC Evo and put it in the HTC Desire
Easy to say btw
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HD support will come with a firmware update, the hardware can do it, but the software doesnt yet
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010...d+(MobileTechWorld)&utm_content=Google+Reader
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Good news for the Desire!
I hope they will keep 30fps though
720x480 30fps is already very good
i have seen a few threads saying that the Desire has 720p recording and divx player but most reviews are saying this has been left out.
Does the Desire have these features out the box or are they in the pipeline and can we expect to see these functions from future roms?
Apparently this will come in a future firmware upgrade, as far as I am aware it is not present in any currently available Desires
indeed. none of them have it, and i don't think it's been confirmed that it will happen. afaik it's still just a rumour at this point.
well i asked HTC about the HD videorecording and divx support and this is what they said.
Dear xxxx
No, this will not available with the next firmware.
It does not have the video capabilities to record 1080x720 which is 720p
We are not licensed to distribute Divx Codec
Thanks for contacting HTC Europe
Kind regards.
xxxxxxx
HTC Europe
Hi, I was out for a while from this forum, the Desire made me back. I just ordered mine, was hearing a rumor that hTC has promised an update by which the Desire will be capable of making 720P videos and also encoding and DivX playback. So all I wanna know how true is that?
Thanks.
As far as I know it is not a definite, and there is actually no official word from HTC... YET lol
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ithehappy said:
Hi, I was out for a while from this forum, the Desire made me back. I just ordered mine, was hearing a rumor that hTC has promised an update by which the Desire will be capable of making 720P videos and also encoding and DivX playback. So all I wanna know how true is that?
Thanks.
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HTC doesn't have the permission to use the DivX Codec, and 720p is unsupported. PERIOD.
There's an update due with 720p Recording and DivX playback support apparently.
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010...ceive-divx-playback-support-in-future-update/
Yeah, I read that news a month before but wanted to know if there is any update on that. Anyway, I believe hTC and their words.
Thanks.
Excuse me if this may come off lackluster, I'm trying to figure out why HTC equipped the Evo with a slower variant of a mp4 which I read is H.263 and other products like the iPhone 4 are a higher (newer?) version which is H.264. I notice that all my videos are saved in the .3gp format which is .mp4 but is H.263 right?
Well, I use to have an HTC HD2 and although there was no setting for 720p, you could record in 640x480 which was VGA, but all my videos would save as a .mp4 and they are H.264 bitrate format. I read on here that HTC was lazy with the Evo 4G on putting H.264 or couldn't acquire the license for it? Than how did they get it for the HD2? Does the fact the HD2 is a Window Mobile device and the Evo is Android have anything to do with it?
Honestly, looking at both of my HD2 videos and my Evo 4G videos, you could slightly tell the difference, even with all my Evo 4G video being shot at 720p and my HD2 at VGA (640x480), the Evo has more noise and pixel breakup, HD2 looks slightly blurry, less sharp, wave effect (when moving the camera).
they probably did not want to pay the fee to use it, not their fault things like this needs to be an open standard, or you end up like blueray