This thread will hopefully become a communal Work In Progress. I received my TP2 yesterday and have gotten to work right away on installing Japanese IME on my phone. Anyone who can offer useful tips or any help at all, I greatly appreciate it.
12:11 PM 8/21/2009
So far my first attempts have not proved fruitful. As a first step, I installed Olinex's HSPL. After that, I began installing the cabs from Zgembo's Touch Pro/Diamond Thread. I first installed the Let's Japan WM6.1 R07. After a soft reset, it seemed to be installed ok. I could see a few Chinese characters in the predictive text box above the SIP keyboard (although, there were some boxes too). Second step, I attempted to install the Japanese Advanced IME from the same thread. I should note, it clearly states that it's designed for VGA devices, and TP2 is WVGA. I went ahead with the install anyway. And that's when the trouble began. After soft reset, the HTC splash screen comes up, but after that- black. Nothing. No amount of button pressing or anything short of a hard reset resolved it. And that's as as far as I've gotten.
I'm going to do some more reading and then try again. If anyone knows a better way to go, let me know. Hopefully with more input this can become useful to other people living in Japan that require Japanese capabilities on their Touch Pro 2.
*****UPDATE*****
first off, my apologies, i realize that my solution to the problem wasn't clearly stated in my other posts below.
to get Japanese input/output working on your Rhodium/Touch Pro 2, do the following:
install Asukal LetsJapan6 and restart
install Asukal's IME_31J_FULL, but do not restart
install Asukal's Enable_IME and restart
that simple. romaji, kana, kanji, kensaku, tegaki (the handwriting recognition inputs) will all work. XT9/Predictive will be broken. And you will need to switch between かな カナ or 英数 on the soft keyboard to get the hardware keyboard to type in the language you want.
Try CE-Star Suite Chinese/Japanese enabler
http://www.mobem.com/products/cestarwm5.php
Mesquire said:
Try CE-Star Suite Chinese/Japanese enabler
http://www.mobem.com/products/cestarwm5.php
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have you tried that on your TP2? what results did you get?
for anyone else trying Zgembo's cabs from the Touch Pro/Diamond thread, can you let me know your results? After installing LetsJapan, for my SIP icon, I'm getting an A4. In the dropdown menu where you select which keyboard to use, it has A4 智能输入 (i can't read those characters at all). anyone know the deal with this A4 menu?
No problem running CE-Star on my TP2 and the interface is in English, but I don't use or need Japanese input so I cannot comment on that.
yeh, I need Japanese input. and the A4 Chinese pre-installed in my ROM seems to conflict with it somewhat.
almost there... i hope
Ok, so here's the situation so far. After nearly 10 resets, I seem to be *almost* there.
I installed in the following order:
1. LetsJapanWM61r07.cab, then reset
2. KeyTouchJapIMEr07.cab
3. Enable_IME_2.zip, then reset
4. Softbank MMS
So far, I am able to send and receive with no problem. however, I'm still not able to type using any katakana, hiragana, nor kanji. even when i use the kensaku, it will recognize the characters, but when i choose the character, nothing shows up. Japanese input seems to be completely broken.
Is anyone on here able to type in Japanese on their device? if so, what program are you using? the relevant programs I have installed are:
Zgembo JapaneseIME
Asukal Enable_IME
Zgembo Lets Japan WM6.1
Zgembo Lets Japan WM6.1 Mincho
Zgembo Softbank MMS
The soft input keyboards available to me are:
A4 智能输入
Block Recognizer
Kana*
Kensaku*
Keyboard
KeyTouch*
Letter Recognizer
Romaji*
Tegaki*
Touch Input
Transcriber
* for the Japanese characters that don't show up when I type
CE-Star has some Japanese support (I need it to show Japanese song names, but not all words are displayed correctly) and Romaji input but since I don't know any Japanese I can't test the accuracy of inputs for you, but their Romaji input appears to work.
@mesquire: yeah, CE Star doesn't work for me. i think i'll need a bit of a more 'homegrown' solution.
Getting Japanese Input running
well, i finally managed to enable Japanese input. previously, i had been attempting to install Zgembo's KeyTouchJapIMEr07.cab. VISUALLY all the keyboards were there, but only a limited few functioned. i did a lot of trial-and-error installations to figure out what effect each cab file had.
after installing the softbank connection I began installing the IME piece by piece. I should mention that the ZTA4 (Chinese) IME is preinstalled in this stock ROM. the keyboards included in this IME are Touch Input, A4 智能输入, Block Recognizer, Keyboard, Letter Recognizer, Transcriber. i'll paste some of my edited installation/setup notes below. if you don't want to wade through that muck, just skip down to the Highlights section below it:
17. Install Keytouch (Zgembo JapaneseIME; 17.5mb) -> DON'T RESTART
18. Install Enable_IME_HTC_HD
19. Check Input (5 new: Kana, Kensaku, KeyTouch, Romaji, Tegaki)
20. Restart
21. Check input, Regional Settings (still no Japan)
22. test input
QWERTY Touch keyboard is fine (XT9 doesn't work)
Keypad only types numbers
small keyboard is fine
romaji broken (no kana)
kana broken (blocks)
KeyTouch broken (blocks)
Tegaki is fine
kensaku is fine
A4 is fine
block recognizer is fine (but sucks)
Letter Recognizer is fine
Transcriber is fine23. Install CEStar Japan (2mb); no change in SIP functionality; restart; no change in SIP functionality
24. Install Softbank MMS (5.2mb)
25. Install Asukal Lets Japan6 (4.25mb); restart; Regional Setting changed to Japan; Mapple functional; Kana is default keyboard; A4 智能输入 now reads A4 智能▯入; no change in SIP functionality
26. Install 2_IME_31J_FULL.cab (Ask IME 31J) (7.8mb); new input: Roma Ji, Kana, TagakiKensaku, restart, no change in SIP functionality
27. Install LetsJapan WM61r07 (Zgembo Lets Japan WM6.1; 4.25mb); restart
28. Install Enable_IME_HTC_HD again
29. Install 2_IME_31J_FULL.cab again; restart; No change
30. Install Enable IME2; restartl No change
31. Remove Asukal LetsJapan6
32. Remove Zgembo's LetsJapan6 (but didn't remove properly; still in Programs list); A4 is now A4▯▯▯▯; restart; problem occurred with cprog.exe
33. Install LetsJapan WM61r07 again (Zgembo Lets Japan WM6.1; 4.25mb); restart; problem occurred with cprog.exe; no regional setting change
34. Remove Asukal Enable IME; no change
HARD Reset
Highlights
if you have no desire to read through all that and decipher it, it basically says this:
ZTA4 natively allows you to view Japanese (Japanese characters are Chinese characters afterall, but it allows you to see Kanji and Kana)
ZTA4 does not allow you to write in Japanese nor display Japanese in software designed for Japanese OS.
LetsJapan6 (both Asukal's original and Zgembo's derivative) adds Japanese to the 'Regional Settings'. it also installs the font used for Japanese input/output. Of the two, only Asukal's LetsJapan allows software designed for Japanese OS to display Japanese properly (ie. Pocket Mapple). However, neither LetsJapan installs any keyboards (only fonts), so you still cannot write in Japanese yet.
LetsJapan6 (both Asukal's original and Zgembo's derivative) both appear to conflict with ZTA4. I don't know of any change in functionality, but A4 智能输入 in the list of keyboards will now read A4 智能▯入 (if anyone knows of a way for me to completely remove ZTA4, please share).
Zgembo's KeyTouch/JapaneseIME adds 5 new keyboards to your available inputs: Kana, Kensaku, KeyTouch, Romaji, Tegaki; of these 5 keyboards, only 2 work- Kensaku and Tegaki
Zgembo's KeyTouch/JapaneseIME doesn't allow Japanese input; it also breaks XT9 functionality in the English keyboards; Visually it's lovely and everything is there, but it does not function on this particular stock ROM. I should also warn: if you do install this IME, DO NOT RESTART immediately after installing. Immediately after installing, install one of Asukal's Enable_IME files (there's one from long ago and one he recently made for the Touch HD... although, i think they are exactly the same). If you do not install the Enable_IME before you restart your device, after your device boots up and the splash screen fades, you'll be stuck on a black screen, at which point, your only option is to Hard Reset.
Asukal's IME_31J_FULL is the alternative to Zgembo's KeyTouch/JapaneseIME. although Zgembo's is prettier, it unfortunately doesn't work on TP2 (if someone else has had a different experience, please share). Asukal's IME is rudimentary, no fancy stuff like a Japanese Touch Keypad or predictive text, but it allows you to write in Japanese.
Asukal's IME_31J_FULL adds 4 new keyboards: Roma Ji, Kana, Tegaki, and TagakiKensaku. All seem to function perfectly fine as touch keyboards. As touch keyboards though, they're not very finger friendly, so you'll be stuck using your stylus to tap. In hardware keyboard mode, at the moment there is no known Fn key combination that allows you to switch between English and Japanese. This must be chosen by first choosing either かな カナ or 英数 on the soft keyboard, then typing with the hardware keyboard. And again, if you do install this IME, DO NOT RESTART immediately after installing Same thing will happen as stated above. Immediately after installing, install one of Asukal's Enable_IME files. If you don't, you'll have lots of fun hard-resetting.
After setting up the IME, it should be relatively safe to install the Arcsoft Softbank program. I've been using that and have no problems sending or receiving SMS and MMS... although, I don't know how to use emoji since i think it was something that is inherent in the Japanese KeyTouch keyboard.
So that's my rundown. Hope it will be useful to others. What I want to do now is find a way to Isolate the Japanese KeyTouch keyboard, get rid of ZTA4, and get XT9 prediction working again on both English and Japanese keypad. I'd really love it if Asukal, Alcibiade, Zgembo, larsucks and the rest of the X01HT gang could get in on this and offer some suggestions. Anyone else who has discovered anything interesting, please don't hesitate to post!!
Ookii.org
You should look at Ookii.org:
http://www.ookii.org/software/japaneseinput/
mschaffer said:
You should look at Ookii.org:
http://www.ookii.org/software/japaneseinput/
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thanks, i'm familiar with ookii.org. good stuff. i've been using his pocket dictionary for a few years now. but with regards to his japanese input, i don't imagine there will be added functionality over Asukal's IME, but I do imagine there will probably be less. And still, it's old, so the letters will still be tiny, there will be no keypad, and there will be no predictive text.
Did you try BeeGee_Tokyo's CAB for Topaz?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4102158
I tried it on my Rhodium and it works quite well, though it seems to slow the system down. Only thing I found is that I can't use the physical keyboard to input Japanese.
Topaz and Rhodium are quite similar, definitely in terms of screen res and probably software I think.
e60202 said:
Did you try BeeGee_Tokyo's CAB for Topaz?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4102158
I tried it on my Rhodium and it works quite well, though it seems to slow the system down. Only thing I found is that I can't use the physical keyboard to input Japanese.
Topaz and Rhodium are quite similar, definitely in terms of screen res and probably software I think.
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thanks for the suggestion. i already got Japanese input working now, but i may try that one in a later configuration.
what i'd like to know now is if anyone else has been able to install HTC KeyTouch (the Japanese version from the X05HT) onto their Rhodium. That is the SIP keyboard I would really like to get functioning, as one-handed typing on the Rhodium would be lovely. Also, I think that the emoji are preset in that SIP, so presently, i can't get them working in my Softbank Mail program. anyone have any success with that?
btw e60202, if you follow the method i stated on the previous page, you can have Japanese input both software and hardware keyboard.
Cool...I'll give that a try and let you know if I have any trouble. Thanks.
@shunsai
I want to buy the HTC Touch Pro 2 here in Germany soon. But reading and writing Japanese is very important to me. So, I am glad that you found a solution for my problem.
But I still have some questions.
Could you tell me where I can download Asukal LetsJapan6, Asukal's IME_31J_FULL and Asukal's Enable_IME?
If it won't work the way I hope it will, how can I remove it from my device afterwards?
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@shunsai
I want to buy the HTC Touch Pro 2 here in Germany soon. But reading and writing Japanese is very important to me. So, I am glad that you found a solution for my problem.
But I still have some questions.
Could you tell me where I can download Asukal LetsJapan6, Asukal's IME_31J_FULL and Asukal's Enable_IME?
If it won't work the way I hope it will, how can I remove it from my device afterwards?
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asukal keeps a blog where he also includes his files. this entry he wrote is about the Touch HD, but the files work for the Touch Pro 2 as well. the 1_Enable_IME_HTC_HD.cab included in the zip seems to be the exact same as Enable_IME_2.zip
LetsJapan6 is available here
most of his other files are available here.
if things don't work out, hard reset will become your friend, so make sure to backup all your files and settings before you install just in case.
Thank you very much for the info, Shunsai!
Have you already found a way to change the input method with the hardware keyboard?
Somewhere I read something about pressing the Crtl and Shift at the same time. Does that work on your device?
Having trouble with text
First of all. I want to thanks to you Shunsai and Asukal!
I'm having trouble to input Japanese with Touch pro 2.
Now everything work good except text message.
When I text with Japanese it shows "????????????????".
It shows fine with email and web browser.
Do you have same problem? Or it is just for me?
dkun said:
Thank you very much for the info, Shunsai!
Have you already found a way to change the input method with the hardware keyboard?
Somewhere I read something about pressing the Crtl and Shift at the same time. Does that work on your device?
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hey dkun, no, i still haven't found a way yet. hopefully someone with more knowledge can suggest something soon.
quickmo said:
First of all. I want to thanks to you Shunsai and Asukal!
I'm having trouble to input Japanese with Touch pro 2.
Now everything work good except text message.
When I text with Japanese it shows "????????????????".
It shows fine with email and web browser.
Do you have same problem? Or it is just for me?
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no prob. i'm here to help people in the same boat as me if i can, but really i haven't done anything. i'm just benefiting from the fruits of asukal's labor like you. can you tell me more about your device (which ROM/region)? what order did you install the cabs in? was it on fresh install?
i'm still tinkering around trying to get japanese and english input where i want them, but japanese IME seems to be very tempermental in general. so far, its really only worked for me consistently when i installed in the order in the OP.
Have you guys tried this Japanese display and input app?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
No need for separate installs - all in one cab, works on many different devices, also with hardware keyboard. Much smoother than LetsJapan or CE-Star IMO.
I just flashed my first custom rom (energy photon) and noticed that the transcriber and letter recognizer inputs are not available in the sip menu. Apparently I'm one of the weird ones and use these as my primary input methods (I love handwriting recognition!). In which case, does anyone know of or use a custom rom that offer these input methods? I've tried searching but its not exactly common for the chefs to say they have transcriber or letter recognizer offered in their roms. Anyone have any suggestion or perhaps cabs to install?
thank you very much
Is this too newbie of a question? Should I just search more?
I am in the same boat. Just upgrade to NRG's Photon 10/28 and not seeing Block/Handwriting input, just the different keyboards. Anyone have info on this?
same here ... hoping for a resolution soon to an otherwise great ROM experience
Ok .. I am a dumbass ... I Finally figured it out ..
I installed Transcriber ..
click-> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...c3-2eee-41e3-9339-f7b303f4b386&displaylang=en
And true 6.5 roms do not give you the option of choosing transcriber from the optons menu ..
However if you find transcriber.exe in the windows dir .. you can run it and it does work !
So I made a link and added it to the startup dir in windows and it works just fine now
Just a warning .. if you change to the full or compact qwerty it closes transcriber and you will have to restart it to make it work again :/
However if you open the keyboard it will switch to the keyboard layout
and back to transcriber .. without restarting transcriber
Give it try .. Worked For me !
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Ok .. I am a dumbass ... I Finally figured it out ..
I installed Transcriber ..
click-> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...c3-2eee-41e3-9339-f7b303f4b386&displaylang=en
And true 6.5 roms do not give you the option of choosing transcriber from the optons menu ..
However if you find transcriber.exe in the windows dir .. you can run it and it does work !
So I made a link and added it to the startup dir in windows and it works just fine now
Just a warning .. if you change to the full or compact qwerty it closes transcriber and you will have to restart it to make it work again :/
However if you open the keyboard it will switch to the keyboard layout
and back to transcriber .. without restarting transcriber
Give it try .. Worked For me !
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I guess i should thank you for being a "dumbass" for ALL of us other "dummies" who were relying on you or someone else to pose a resolution. I'll be giving this a shot today! Thanx!
Transcriber/Block recognition Gone
HTC Tilt 2 ATT Window Mobile 6.5 Pro
OS Version 5.2.21887
ROM Version 2.10.502.4
I used to have a 8525 I kept it for years and got it repaired multiple times for one reason...it had inherent handwriting recognition. When it finally died, I replaced it with the above HTC Tilt 2 specifically because it also had handwriting recognition.
Yesterday, I upgraded the ROM to the version listed above. I read through the upgrade info, didn't mention it was going to take away the one feature I loved, but it did.
I tried to install transcriber as mentioned but cannot find the .exe file discussed to make the shortcut. The new rom apparently does away with file explorer.
At this point, I feel like unhooking everything and going up into the mountains where the most technological thing I have is the axe I chop wood with.
There are a million phones out there...why can't they leave one that old farts like me can use?
Sorry for the venting...I called HTC and they said 1) can't downgrade ROM 2) Search the internet for something that let's you transcribe.
Any help would be appreciated.
"ScottSNX", modified the original HTC Transcriber for WinMo 6.5. But, word complete is still missing & not much available for free. His post is #28 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=605586&page=3. CalliGrapher ( http://www.phatware.com/index.php?q=product/details/calligrapher ) is an app you can buy & it has word complete.
Thx,
Brian
Thanks! I have downloaded the cab and will let you know!