Hi guys,
Looking at getting the Touch Pro 2 on SIM free unlocked here in the UK.
This is to replace my broken Alpine XDAIIi and I wondered:
1. Will all my WM2003 IIi software work? Tomeraider, EReader Pro, Wikipedia etc...
2. How close is the Android port - sounds exciting if it is.
3. Does Flash work well? Especially on sites like MySpace musicians stuff.
4. Is the processor fast enough - I think it's the same as Alpine. I was considering the HD2 but obviously is more expensive.
5. Can you still use a stylus with it as with a IIi?
6. Anyone know if there are equivalents to musician's apps like on the 3GS - e.g. guitar tuner, player, 4-track recorder etc.
7. How much data do you typically downlload ona 3G phone - I need to get some kind of plan from O2.
Point 6 points to the fact that I am slightly attracted to the iPhone but possibly only the 4G when it comes out.
Any help or comments appreciated!
M
I'll wager that some of you know one or two answers...?
1. Yes, they're compatible.
2. It's half-working. I wouldn't prefer it.
3. Flash works if you install it, however it's not smooth enough for me.
4. Fast enough for what? The Sense 2.1 works smooth, Sense 2.5 is a bit too hungry for memory imho. Fast enough for me.
5. Yes!
6. Don't know.
7. Depends on how I use the phone
Go get Rhodium, it's the best HTC device with keyboard up to date.
Mus said:
6. Anyone know if there are equivalents to musician's apps like on the 3GS - e.g. guitar tuner, player, 4-track recorder etc.
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Guitar Suite
sirphunkee said:
Guitar Suite
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Mmm nice...
Jackos said:
1. Yes, they're compatible.
2. It's half-working. I wouldn't prefer it.
3. Flash works if you install it, however it's not smooth enough for me.
4. Fast enough for what? The Sense 2.1 works smooth, Sense 2.5 is a bit too hungry for memory imho. Fast enough for me.
5. Yes!
6. Don't know.
7. Depends on how I use the phone
Go get Rhodium, it's the best HTC device with keyboard up to date.
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OK thanks for that.
Am I right that WM 6.5 is the end of the line for TP2? Possibly only the HD2 will make it to WM7...?
Also can you use the stylus with HD2?
Mus said:
OK thanks for that.
Am I right that WM 6.5 is the end of the line for TP2? Possibly only the HD2 will make it to WM7...?
Also can you use the stylus with HD2?
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Officially Windows 7 will be only for the Leo but that will last about 2 minutes around here when the chefs dismantle it and recook it into custom roms. If you want Windows 7 on an older device, it will be here first.
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Meschle.........
After reading yor comments on the ongoing ROM poll, elsewhere on the Forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325872
I have to ask what is in store in your new ROM 02 Premier Plus?? Is there a time scale for its' release yet?
I have tried all the ROMS that come and go on these boards and am still very pleased with Artemis Touch 1.0 WWE - Full, I think it is the most stable ROM so far...
Can you spill the beans on your plans...
It will be released over the weekend - final testing now.
Includes updated audiomanager (same skin) but now plays when in standby mode.
Most of the apps are included from artemis touch full including hbutton setup, notem,1 calc lite, tpcmp, xnview pcm keyboard....
The ability to add cube by cab if required (blue design)
Still has 51mb total storage memory and 27mb free program memory after soft reset.
It runs as well as standard version
thx
i am waitting
What a guy, that's what you call a prompt reply.
Looking forward to giving it a spin.
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The ability to add cube by cab if required (blue design)
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It will be ROM without the cube in default ? And cube will be only separately installable option (cab) ?
From my point of view, it is very good idea !! Cube is nice toy, it is good to amaze friends, but I guess that most of people dont use it. I dont need any cube when I have HTC home ...
I'm looking forward to your new ROM
Hi Meschle
I eagerly await this new rom as your original is my keeper at the moment. A question, you say you are including the CM Keyboard but is the HTC Phonepad staying? For me this is far better for texting and was something I had been wanting scince getting this phone but just couldnt find an app anywhere until I tried your rom (my first), CMKeyboard is very good but still needs some care when using on the move. If not remaining perhaps you can let me know where to get.
Be good to see the new rom, just dont give up life to meet your publics demands
Thanks for your work so far
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Hi Meschle
I eagerly await this new rom as your original is my keeper at the moment. A question, you say you are including the CM Keyboard but is the HTC Phonepad staying? For me this is far better for texting and was something I had been wanting scince getting this phone but just couldnt find an app anywhere until I tried your rom (my first), CMKeyboard is very good but still needs some care when using on the move. If not remaining perhaps you can let me know where to get.
Be good to see the new rom, just dont give up life to meet your publics demands
Thanks for your work so far
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Yes dman - i include both dont worry.
You make me feel like a demanding child
Cheers
DMan said:
Hi Meschle
I eagerly await this new rom as your original is my keeper at the moment. A question, you say you are including the CM Keyboard but is the HTC Phonepad staying? For me this is far better for texting and was something I had been wanting scince getting this phone but just couldnt find an app anywhere until I tried your rom (my first), CMKeyboard is very good but still needs some care when using on the move. If not remaining perhaps you can let me know where to get.
Be good to see the new rom, just dont give up life to meet your publics demands
Thanks for your work so far
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Heres the htc touch phone pad.
Also i would like to see this rom without touchflo as i read some people including me can't get it to work properly.
other than that this first version rocks big style. i prefered the mms/sms all in one also (i know some dont agree with me but hey, personal prefs)
Last few days - being bed ridden - had all the opportunity to install, re-install and re-re-reinstall all the roms circulating...I finally settled on the O2 Premium ROM - not because - I am not a fan of Tom's - His ROM was fantastic - the Artemis too was superb ! but my preferences lies in the fact that - if I dont use something - no point having on the phone.
My 2 cents on new ROM;s that come up -
The Lite version along with the reduced apps - should also exclude the Cube ! - I have been using the Toms 4.0 for ages and realized that I had next to never used the Cube. The HTC Home page suffices more than ever on that is required instantly.
Secondly - Apps like Acrobat Reader LE - should also be left out - to be installed based on individual preferences - it is 1.38MB in size and can be run from the storage card - so I see no reason to have it on the main memory !
All said and done - I think the ROM's provided by Mark and Tom are great and I applaud their efforts.
The Orbit/Artemis/Dopod - would'nt be the same without their efforts and the support of all their collegues.
Cheers
Dev
Thanks Meshle, your Rom is my favorite. Keep on.
PremiumPlus version now released - mirrors of the rom appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325295
meschle said:
PremiumPlus version now released - mirrors of the rom appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325295
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Just installed your ROM. Works great, no problems so far. Good work
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Just installed your ROM. Works great, no problems so far. Good work
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Same here. Love it so far !! Especially the MENU button with the shortcut to SMS !! I have an O2-SMS Flatrate and need quick access to sms
Pretty fast ROM. I am very happy with it.
Changed the DialerButtons though.
Thanks to guys like you and Tom..you make life easier
We aim to please
Out of interest what did you change the dialer buttons too?
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We aim to please
Out of interest what did you change the dialer buttons too?
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To "Wizard_reTOUCHed_Dialer2".
I like the black look...
Man, I've been playing around with this ROM now and it's my new favourite !!! Really finger-friendly and intelligent !!! Congrats, mate !!!!!
Meshle
You're O2 ROM is my favorite and it's staying on my phone. I would like the audio manager to play in sleep mode, but I just spent 2 days configuring my phone to my liking. Is there a registry edit to make the audio player play in suspend mode or is this somthing that requires the new ROM? If not, I'll live with WMP for now. Excellent ROM man!
meschle said:
PremiumPlus version now released - mirrors of the rom appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325295
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Mirror - at Rapidshare
http://rapidshare.com/files/52821813/Artemis_O2_WM6_PremiumPlus_WWE.zip.html
Hi Meschle
Nice one
I downloaded and flashed last night so will play today.
But on 1st impressions it looks just as cool as original but now has all the apps from the Touch, exactly what it said on the tin!
And it has the HTC Phonepad, I happy
I shall post tonight on how she goes.
Thank you
Is the bug about the batterystatus traylaunch fixed in this new version ?
Anyway, keep the excellent work, thank you so much for your quality releases !
I can change touch.dll and add a few files to get bioscroll (not the cube) on the new vanilla rom. It would not slow the rom down or take any free memory away.
What you guys think?
Add it
I can't think of a single reason why not, it is something I love.
Hi, I actually bought an XDA Orbit after seeing the excellent rom work that has been done here and I would definitely like to have that feature. Thanks
Yes,
All i want is a clean up to date rom, with GPS Photo and (bio)scrolling support. The HTC Home Plugin is very handy, but i can miss it.
I am sure if you make a rom which looks as the HTC original, WITH scrolling and GPS Photo support, lots of people would use it.
O yea, and please, dont make a black version... There are other colours, i like the Blue O2 premium you made, and used it quite a time.
little offtopic. Also, if there is a easy way (ala customizer) to put scrolling or other things in it would be great (even with a hard reset or something). Unfortunately its in the ROM (as ive been told) and therefore not possible(?).
meschle said:
I can change touch.dll and add a few files to get bioscroll (not the cube) on the new vanilla rom. It would not slow the rom down or take any free memory away.
What you guys think?
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what's exactly bioscroll?
Is BioScroll the thing which made my Artemis with your TouchFlo 2.0 ROM randomly scrolling up and down?
I say yes.
Maybe you could give an option to switch it on or off like Tom does in his ROM?
Well this is what i've done - disabled by default in true vaniila style - there is a smal cab in windows that enables it.
This stops having extra apps or control panels messing up the feel of vanilla
Total storage still 58.76mb and FAST as ever.
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Well this is what i've done - disabled by default in true vaniila style - there is a smal cab in windows that enables it.
This stops having extra apps or control panels messing up the feel of vanilla
Total storage still 58.76mb and FAST as ever.
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I can't wait vanilla 2.0 .I've very impression in vanilla 1.0 so much.
Also add the disconnect button when connected to the net via gprs
I never liked it much. My opinion is to remove it an give an option to install it later for everyone who likes it. Just as you said.
Good work man.
freco said:
I never liked it much. My opinion is to remove it an give an option to install it later for everyone who likes it. Just as you said.
Good work man.
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I agree to that also.
YES, keep it in 2.0.
With bioscroll, I can scroll with finger at anywhere with scrollbar. don't have to use stylus to scroll.
But I don't use cube often. maybe others do also.
Having Bioscroll alone without cube should make this ROM more popular.
Waiting for it. Thanks a lot.
Please leave bio scroll in - i loves it
Cheers
Hutchy007
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YES, keep it in 2.0.
With bioscroll, I can scroll with finger at anywhere with scrollbar. don't have to use stylus to scroll.
But I don't use cube often. maybe others do also.
Having Bioscroll alone without cube should make this ROM more popular.
Waiting for it. Thanks a lot.
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i'm agree with neavokh
DON`t install it ...everything installable on a later basis should be left out, is what i plea for! ....leave it customizable
"installable"?
is it possible to install scroll function? sorry but i didnt hear about such possibility...
about all other programms - i agree as well that there's nothing should be. to have a chance to install a newest version every time.
any idea when?
thanks
marcello
shoonari said:
"installable"?
is it possible to install scroll function? sorry but i didnt hear about such possibility...
about all other programms - i agree as well that there's nothing should be. to have a chance to install a newest version every time.
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Agreed, ive been told its only possible to add it to the rom, not to ad it afterwards.
meschle said:
I can change touch.dll and add a few files to get bioscroll (not the cube) on the new vanilla rom. It would not slow the rom down or take any free memory away.
What you guys think?
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It'll be the only thing I'am missing in this Rom
Thank YoU Very Much
Does it make any difference? I'm using TAEL on my ATT Fuze right now, but it's giving me real problems (actually, it's unusable at the moment. I'm 100% on android- until my battery runs out...) Should I go back to a WinMo 6.1 build? Which one do you use?
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Does it make any difference? I'm using TAEL on my ATT Fuze right now, but it's giving me real problems (actually, it's unusable at the moment. I'm 100% on android- until my battery runs out...) Should I go back to a WinMo 6.1 build? Which one do you use?
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Several people have done fairly extensive testing... and all we've found that WinMo does is initialize some hardware for Android - so any build of WinMo is fine. It really does not have any relation to Android at all.
With that said, if you want an easy way to go straight to Android, search for Gen.Y. That method is a sort of dual-boot of Android and WinMo (not a true Android ROM keep in mind.)
Thank you!
That's great- I'll just flash something simple and keep android up (love it BTW!). Does this mean that once android is running, WinMo is completely shut off? Does it make any difference if I have WinMo applications running before I start android?
BTW- Thanks!
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Does this mean that once android is running, WinMo is completely shut off? Does it make any difference if I have WinMo applications running before I start android?
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Basically, yes. Like I said, the only thing WinMo does is initialize hardware - for example, early on we had to make a phone call in WinMo before booting Android to get the mic to work. Devs fixed that issue. Same with hw3d, but they sorted that out as well. I think the only thing left is the display itself (I could be wrong) but there isn't any special app you need to run to initialize that.
I use that lightNHB winmo that is posted on the first page of the android release post. Seems to work good... and gets into Android boot pretty quickly
i'm using TAEL too, but it's quite stable, oh i'v instaled [prj][XDANDROID][2.2][AOSP][29.7.10] but i don't use lightNHB, i simply execute haret.exe on explorer
LightNBH2
No guys, you are all wrong. There's one ROM I'm on now, which automatically boots Linux and as well is very quick to boot (for those people who don't want to use WinMo at all)
It also lets you to use your device as the internal storage to (update/edit Android builds) I find this ROM the best to use with Android. It loads as quickly as possible and auto runs Linux which is surely the best decision so far. Here's the link.
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No guys, you are all wrong.
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I'm so glad you feel our opinions are wrong...
I could easily say you are the wrong one, because I don't want to run a ROM that only boots Android...
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I'm so glad you feel our opinions are wrong...
I could easily say you are the wrong one, because I don't want to run a ROM that only boots Android...
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Haha, that and I said I use LightNHB and works good, and that was also wrong
Come on now people, is this needed really??
I think to paraphrase the thread, try out some ROMs and see how you get on.
Really thats it.
Agreed; thread closed.
Hi all,
I have a htc touch pro 2 phone.
with windows mobile it was getting slower and slower. at one point it got stuck 3
time a day. Went to a phone dealer and they have put a android software on it.
It worked fine for a wile. put here comes the problem it get stuck when i restart the phone. the scheen wil go black and stay black al the time thil i remove the batery. I want to try to reinstal the software but i cand find it. the ony thing i know it had update 2.2.
if someone can help me thanks for that.
koetjeboe91 said:
Hi all,
I have a htc touch pro 2 phone.
with windows mobile it was getting slower and slower. at one point it got stuck 3
time a day. Went to a phone dealer and they have put a android software on it.
It worked fine for a wile. put here comes the problem it get stuck when i restart the phone. the scheen wil go black and stay black al the time thil i remove the batery. I want to try to reinstal the software but i cand find it. the ony thing i know it had update 2.2.
if someone can help me thanks for that.
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You went to a dealer and they put Android on your TP2?!?! Wow, that must be a first!! Personally, I would recommend that you install a custom WinMo ROM, like the Energy ROM. When you'll have a functional TP2, you might want to try to use Froyo or Gingerbread with XDAndroid to see if it works great for you.
it is not the main os need to boot in windows mobile first then i need to start in something called haret. it wil boot a linux like os called android
koetjeboe91 said:
it is not the main os need to boot in windows mobile first then i need to start in something called haret. it wil boot a linux like os called android
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As far as I know, and I may be wrong so others will correct if so, A TP2 is not supposed to work out of the box with Android. The whole XDAndroid project is running to that Android can be tweaked to run efficiently on other "non-Android" cellphones. As for haret, it's the program that start the Linux booting sequence so that XDAndroid can boot on the phone.
As I told you, if you want a working TP2 as fast as possible, you should think about installing a custom WinMo ROM. Then, you could look to find what you're looking for, a way to install Android natively on your TP2.
EDIT: I misread you last post, so I'm not sure you want to run Android as your main OS, but still, you should look to install a custom WinMo ROM of your TP2. I personally use Energy Rom with MaxSense and I really like it. I even overclocked my phone to 748 mhz with WiMoSpeed and it works great.
my English is terrible ，so i can`t help you
971130192 said:
my English is terrible ，so i can`t help you
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Best way I recommend that you run custom wimo.
i wil try a costum wimobile. i wil let you guys know if i find any problems with it
U can use Gen.Y Dualboot for autobooting to ur preferred OS. I did Triboot w Rhobuntu on it too, fun.
There's another one but can't rem the name at the moment.
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koetjeboe91 said:
Went to a phone dealer and they have put a android software on it.
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Wow. Never go to that phone dealer again. Android on the TP2 is NOT stable yet. He stuck you with something that was destined to break.
That said, Android is MUCH more stable lately, so if you want to reinstall Android yourself visit the Rhodium Android Development forum, or visit http://xdandroid.com.
And MMS finally works.
I have been running Froyo FRX06 on my TP2 (RHOD500) for almost two weeks now (Verizon global phone, using CDMA only with SIM card removed). The build itself has actually been very good I think. Only one SoD so far. It has rebooted on me a few times (notably when I was in an area with no service and a couple times when using navigation), but other wise has been great! With moderate usage I can easily go 17 hours between charges (includes using navigation, FB, etc). The only things that don't work are BT, the 3.5 jack (wouldn't use anyways), and MMS (but I believe there is a fix for this now as noted above). I am also overclocking (710400 khz) and so far so good (will probably bump it up some more shortly). I have not even had to switch back to WinMo once since I made the switch.
Basically, I recommend at least trying it out
A phone dealer charging for something obtainable from this site for free? LOL.
I would only recommended android on SD at the moment so you can at least use the phone
Check the link in my sig. (android on SD) to get setup.
Get that all set up with a new winmo rom and youd be all good to go, im using android as my primary. and windows only to start android.
only thing not working for my on android is Bluetooth, same for all users with our phone. There should be an update coming soon to fix this though...
btw, post all android related threads in the android section so you can get better help faster.
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U can use Gen.Y Dualboot for autobooting to ur preferred OS. I did Triboot w Rhobuntu on it too, fun.
There's another one but can't rem the name at the moment.
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When you use dual boot with android and wmo..does the startup file still get used?
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And MMS finally works.
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Are you using a new image or did you do all the patches?
wrong post for me.
your dealer is either really awesome or really shady....
or you're lying to us all, you *&$+&¢#!
... at far right of the task bar.
I believe thats what it is called. I'm looking at my TP2 and see it, looking at the Tilt/2 it has the space for it, but it's not there;
WHAT'S THE DEAL?!?!?!?!
What ROM? Not sure which have it/which don't... Some stock ROM's might not have it at all.
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What ROM? Not sure which have it/which don't... Some stock ROM's might not have it at all.
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Interestingly I replied to this last night and it's not here, um ...
It's the stock ROM and WM V6.5.
I'm running SPB Mobile Shell 3.x but it wasn't there even before I installed it.
RBraverman said:
Interestingly I replied to this last night and it's not here, um ...
It's the stock ROM and WM V6.5.
I'm running SPB Mobile Shell 3.x but it wasn't there even before I installed it.
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Is it a carrier ROM? Which one?
I'm not on the stock ROM, so even if it's Sprint I won't know if it comes with a task manager.
Why not just install one or flash a ROM with one...?
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Is it a carrier ROM? Which one?
I'm not on the stock ROM, so even if it's Sprint I won't know if it comes with a task manager.
Why not just install one or flash a ROM with one...?
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ATT.
I've tried about 7-10 different task manager files, none really worked.
I'd flash a new ROM if I could get some straight answers as to the most stable and useful one. Everyone has their favorites, so the discussion gets a bit muddled. I'm in a Motorhome right now and may be for longer then I had anticipated, so if I do, I'm not in the position to play/experiment.
Any ideas?
Well of course opinions will muddle the discussion of "most stable and useful" - everyone is going to have a different angle of what they feel fit those criteria.
I don't really use WinMo much anymore (Android is way too much fun ) but EnergyROM always worked well for me. I'm on Titanium lately, because I don't care how it looks - I just want it to boot quickly to get me into Android quickly .
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Well of course opinions will muddle the discussion of "most stable and useful" - everyone is going to have a different angle of what they feel fit those criteria.
I don't really use WinMo much anymore (Android is way too much fun ) but EnergyROM always worked well for me. I'm on Titanium lately, because I don't care how it looks - I just want it to boot quickly to get me into Android quickly .
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I like Android, but with it phoning home, and the lack of audio through B/T (yet - I need a headset in the car and walking around), I can't use it on a daily basis - yet.
Hell'ava job though!
I've found ark-switch which works - mostly, so I can live with it.
Now if I can just figure out how add programs to a drop down start button, I'll be happy.