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WM6 Email Client on WM5

Hi!
I have a Dell Axim x50v (VGA device) running WM5 AKU 2.3, and would really want to have HTML support for email, since WM5 email client doesn't support it. I don't want to download any extra third-party application like Flexmail, but rather would like to know if there is some kind of a plugin for this native email client that allows HTML support.... I heard of WM6 and it's richer email client. Is there any way you can install WM6 email client on a windows mobile 5 device like mine? If not, is there any WM6 ROM that will work on my PDA? (Other things like viewing Internet Explorer Mobile in high resolution mode, or the new "calendar ribbon" would also be a worthy upgrade.)
.... There is a very slight chance that Dell will release an official WM6 upgrade considering how old my model is.... (it came out in 2004, being replaced by x51 models in late 2005).
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

For what I have read, you are basically out of luck.
You can't rip the email client out of WM6 since it seems to be very much incorporated within the OS. If you want to enjoy the WM6 email client you have to upgrade.
As far as if there is a WM6 I am not sure and since you have reached a HTC forum, well, have you tried a Dell site?

agovinoveritas said:
You can't rip the email client out of WM6 since it seems to be very much incorporated within the OS. If you want to enjoy the WM6 email client you have to upgrade.
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Quoted for the truth.
Outlook (PIM) depends on Shell, Shell depends on Coredll, Coredll depends on kernel. Bummer.

Like I said, there is no chance that Dell will be releasing WM6 upgrade for its handhelds, so visiting "aximsite" wasn't very usefull for me right now.
When you guys mentioned that the WM6 email client is very much incorporated with the OS, does the same apply with the Internet Explorer Mobile that now supports high resolution, or the Microsoft "MarketPlace"?
Is there at least a third-party HTML support plugin for the native email client, or is Flexmail the only solution for viewing HTML-formatted emails? (I would really prefer a "free" third-party application.)

Xdenwarrior said:
(I would really prefer a "free" third-party application.)
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Try Qmail IMHO the best email program and what is more important free
http://q3.snak.org/download/ take most up to date compilation from Nightly build section and don't be afraid about japanese page Qmail is in english! At the bottom of download page you'll find openssl extension for secure connections.

I can't properly download this "Qmail" program. If I want to download and install it through activesync by first of all extracting the zip file from the nightly build and then running the exe file, it eventually says "not a valid Win32 application" or something like that. In fact, i can't stand that official japanese website, cause i get that same message for anything i try to download from there.
Actually, i got a chance to see how Qmail works (looks pretty nice - it supports HTML, right?), but not necessary to use it. Instead of running it on a PC, i copied right away that zip file to my device, and installed Total Commander on my PPC. However, I had to extract each component for Qmail separately using the Total Commander. Really a disasterous download, if not even. It ended up opening the program, but never really saving it anywhere on my device. After a quick soft reset, there is no more trace of it.
So, SERIOUSLY, does anyone have an alternate cab or exe file of the latest nightly build for Qmail v3 that actually works, not links to that japanese website?

I think you don't get the idea of inslalling it it's not self installing program! unpack it on your desktop than move whole folder with all files (all dlls and q3u.exe) to some folder on your ppc, probably the best is storage card. You can copy files that way by opening activesync and than klicking on explore button there will be your ppc just like any other folder in normal desktop pc. Copy whole qmail folder to it and thats it, you can start qmail using totalcommander on ppc or later create some shortcut to program on today or in programs.
here is packed folder "Qmail" with all needed files unpack it on your desktop and copy unpacked folder with files to your ppc using activesync explore button! Sorry but I can't write it more simply This one works on my ppc as all other versions did!
http://przemek.nekla.pl/Qmail.rar
and one more thing here you can read somthing more about qmail and the power of this program! also how to set it up
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46747
http://www.azol.ru/texts/QMail3_eng_FAQ.htm

Nice!!! I finally got Qmail installed on my device. Seems like it can do a lot more than just let you view HTML-formatted email. So, how well does it compete with the native WM6 email client?
Ohh, you guys never answered me about WM6 Internet Explorer. I find that IE that comes with WM5 takes very long time to open pages, or at least - fairly slow. (Doesn't work very well in the morning when you are in a rush, and don't want to wait for your PC to start up, and whenever it's ready to connect to the internet). Many WM6 reviews say that the WM6 IE is quite faster, supports AJAX, and especially more stable. (Don't know how to explain it to you, but when scrolling too fast the web pages, especially in landscape mode, at one point all the graphics and program icons become as if shattered with black, grey, green, red, ... lines -the images corrupted, that requires soft reset.) Not sure if this is an error, or if WM6 fixes it. That's why I was thinking of overwriting my current IEMobile with the Internet Explorer that comes with WM6. Or is it hard-coded, as well as WM6 email client, into the OS?
One last question. (sorry, if I'm bothering you guys too much.) Everyone knows that IEMobile of any kind does not allow multiple tabs. And i really would have preffered some kind of a plug-in, not a separate web browser, that allows it. I tried PIEPlus, but it also adds way too many features that I don't even need (i need a browser plugin that handles it as simple as possible) that only wastes more memory, and i think, slows down the IE even more. Any idea???

Ok, I know I was asking above lots of things. So, to make it easier:
1)Does anyone know how i can speed up my internet explorer mobile?,
2)And how i can fix that occasional screen error that occurs while browsing the internet that messes up my whole PDA?

So, um, can somebody help me?

Hello! Is anyone out there?

Anyone running Opera Mini?

Hi I was thinking of switching from Omnia to TP2 and use Opera Mini all the time due to its speed. Had anyone tested it on the TP2, wondering if the different screen res makes it differcult to read due to size or should it be better.

I just installed it in JBlend. The legibility is OK, although the default font size is a little small. The main problem is that opening or closing the keyboard requires you to restart JBlend, which is a royal pain in the neck as I often want to switch between landscape and portrait mode when I'm browsing.
This problem seems to exist with all JBlend apps.

Install JBed, works like a champ. Will thoroughly recommend it. Much better than JBlend.

On Jbed what is the font size like?
Are there no problems with keyboard as described with jblend?

I just installed the latest JBed and OperaMini now loads fine. The font is pretty small, but readable (by me, at least).
Does anyone know how to create a direct menu shortcut to a specific JBed application (e.g. OperaMini, GoogleMail, etc)? (i.e. without having to launch Jbed then select the app you want to launch). I'd also like to assign a different icon to each application, so that I can tell them apart purely from the icon.

Sorry for the obvious question: JBed? JBlend?
Are these some sort of Java runtimes that one must install on a WinMo device?
There's no Java ME edition in WinMO 6.1 by default?

I don't get why you wouldn't just use opera mobile which comes with it

Because until Opera Mobile 9.7 with Turbo ships, mini opera is several times faster with proper settings.
For the past 3 years I've used almost nothing but Opera Mini myself, instead of the full fledged browsers available (I have bought Opera Mobile as well and a Webkit browser).
It's just so much faster due to Turbo caching and fits my needs.
I suspect many others are in the same boat.

Good site for Java MIDlet info
vasra said:
Sorry for the obvious question: JBed? JBlend?
Are these some sort of Java runtimes that one must install on a WinMo device?
There's no Java ME edition in WinMO 6.1 by default?
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Some pretty comprehensive info here, regarding WM MIDlets etc.
http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/blogs/3/2266
http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/blogs/3/2267
Regards
BO$$

Direct shortcuts to MIDlets
itm said:
I just installed the latest JBed and OperaMini now loads fine. The font is pretty small, but readable (by me, at least).
Does anyone know how to create a direct menu shortcut to a specific JBed application (e.g. OperaMini, GoogleMail, etc)? (i.e. without having to launch Jbed then select the app you want to launch). I'd also like to assign a different icon to each application, so that I can tell them apart purely from the icon.
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Check out this chart
http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletBible/CompatibilityAndMain.html
and scroll down to "Direct, system-level links (shortcuts) to midlets". Should give you the answer/links you need.
Also please read my previous post, if you need more info around Java MIDlets.
Regards
BO$$

Thanks for the link.
So....following the instructions for jbed...I created a text file on the PC containing only the following line:
"\windows\jbed.exe -run s0_"
(with the quotes included). I copied this file to the TP2 and renamed it "OperaMini.lnk". When I run the renamed file it doesn't know how to handle it - I get the "Open with..." dialog.
Can anyone advise what I'm doing wrong??

itm,
I believe what you need to do, is create the shortcut file on your TP2 using a file explorer other than the stock WM one (at least on my Uni, it is not capable of creating shortcuts). I think you can either use the inbuilt function of the file explorer (i.e. paste shortcut or something like that) or create a file and change the file extension to .lnk (as you have done) Once the new shortcut file is created, you need to access the "properties" box of that file and in the box where it says something like "go to" or "link" you will need to paste "\windows\jbed.exe -run s0_" (with the quotes). You then save the change and should hopefully be ready to roll...
Appologies for the vague explanation, but left my Uni at home today, so can't physically go through the process on an actual WM device atm.
If you're still stuck after reading this, PM me and I'll try and walk you through once I'm home.
Regards
BO$$

TP2: Esmertec Jbed/Opera Mini

What version of Esmertec should I use for WM 6.5? I'm trying to get Opera Mini going on my AT&T Tilt2..

This guy has done all the work for us... He uses 20090216.5.1 & sets the fonts to be a little bigger so they're not to small on VGA/WVGA screens.
I <3 Opera Mini more than any other mobile browser (except Safari but we can't use that)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398567
if you want a newer version of Jbed go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407667
if you do go with a newer version & want the font bigger, let me know & i'll post the registry edits that are in the CAB from the first link

xnifex said:
if you do go with a newer version & want the font bigger, let me know & i'll post the registry edits that are in the CAB from the first link
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Thanks. I've gone to the latest Jbed. Can you please post your registry edits for the larger fonts? TIA>.

mine are currently set as this, you can probably make them bigger though.
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Apps\Esmertec Java\Device Info\Java Font
"Size Large"="30"
"Size Medium"="26"
"Size Small"="20"

xnifex said:
mine are currently set as this, you can probably make them bigger though.
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Apps\Esmertec Java\Device Info\Java Font
"Size Large"="30"
"Size Medium"="26"
"Size Small"="20"
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Thanks! I went a little smaller, but all good.

Good info here. Opera mini is a great light browser.

Great info, everyone. Thank you. Two questions:
1. Any way to make it the default browser (there was a cab for this on my Tilt)?
2. Any way to register it to remove those annoying permission prompts?
Thanks again.

greenbep said:
Great info, everyone. Thank you. Two questions:
1. Any way to make it the default browser (there was a cab for this on my Tilt)?
2. Any way to register it to remove those annoying permission prompts?
Thanks again.
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Yes & Yes.
I don't have a cab for 1) handy - search for mortscript and you will get there.
2) go to \windows\appdb and find selector.utf. (Backup &) Edit it. You will see an entry for domain
change:
domain=untrusted, \
to:
domain=tckmax , \
(note that I added spaces to make the length of the second entry identical to the first)
copy the file back and u are all set - no more Java Nag..

Thanks very much!

Actually when I tried making that change, I got an error:
The MIDlet could not be instantiated:
java.lang.NullPointerException
Any ideas? Thanks.

greenbep said:
Actually when I tried making that change, I got an error:
The MIDlet could not be instantiated:
java.lang.NullPointerException
Any ideas? Thanks.
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make sure you put enough spaces to match the length of the old entry.. The best way is to open the file in a program which allows you to see spaces/hidden chars, copy the domain line and replace untrusted with tckmax and start adding spaces till the length of the two lines match. then delete untrusted..

I did this tweak on my Fuze w/ WM 6.1. Worked fine.
motoq9h said:
2) go to \windows\appdb and find selector.utf. (Backup &) Edit it. You will see an entry for domain
change:
domain=untrusted, \
to:
domain=tckmax , \
(note that I added spaces to make the length of the second entry identical to the first)
copy the file back and u are all set - no more Java Nag..
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But last night, after I installed both versions of Opera Mini (v4 and the new Beta) on my Tilt 2 , I searched for the appdb folder and the selector.utf file -- to perform the tweak on the Tilt -- couldn't find them anywhere.
Can any of you folks help me out here? Did something change with WM 6.5? What am I missing, and what do I have to do to run Mini.
Those annoying "untrusted" prompts are driving me crazy. Thanks.

Instead of the utf hack, uninstall Opera Mini, go back to the download page from Opera Mobile (do not dL from your PC). Choose the option to download a previous version (do not select the Download Opera Mini link), and select the Verisign version (it's still 4.2). Viola! No more confirmation screens. I got this tip from this board, so thanks to whomever it was that posted it.
I'm surprised anyone likes Safari better than Mini. iPhone, Pre, and Opera Mobile all have the same problem, which is you need to grow and shrink multiple times to read a web page. I find it cumbersome. Plus, I can switch between mobile & non-moblie views. Each has their uses.

Hanson68 said:
Instead of the utf hack, uninstall Opera Mini, go back to the download page from Opera Mobile (do not dL from your PC). Choose the option to download a previous version (do not select the Download Opera Mini link), and select the Verisign version (it's still 4.2). Viola! No more confirmation screens. I got this tip from this board, so thanks to whomever it was that posted it.
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That worked. Went to the previous version, selected the "multiple certificates" choice (of 4.2), and installed it. When I ran it, the first time Mini connected to the internet, I got a "... accesses the network" prompt, but with one of those little check-boxes that says "don't show this message again." Well, on my 6.5 Tilt 2, when I check it, it does show up again, but only once, the FIRST time Mini connects. After that, no more prompts until you exit Mini and start another session. Nice. Thanks!

That's odd -- I only got the message once and was never asked again, regardless of reboots, hard reboots, etc. It loads the first page directly, no questions asked. I used the Verisign version on 6.1.

Hanson68 said:
That's odd -- I only got the message once and was never asked again, regardless of reboots, hard reboots, etc. It loads the first page directly, no questions asked. I used the Verisign version on 6.1.
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Tried the Verisign ver., too. Same result for me (It's not like I'm complaining, mind you). Probably a combination of the phone, OS and who knows what else.
I'm just happy to be able to use Mini without the annoyance. Even with an excellent 3G connection, the version of Opera that shipped with my Tilt 2 performs horribly. I could grow old trying to bring up Google, or WAP pages. It's worse than IE. Never thought anything could be worse than IE.
Skyfire really rocks here, though, for some reason. Just a few steps behind Mini for busy sites like the Wall Street Journal. Go figure.
Anyway, thanks again.

[APP][IDEA] wmNotebook - Real OneNote on your phone

Hello,
because I'm tired of carrying 2.7kg 15.4" laptop, I will be using my TP2 with HW keyboard (getting better BT one, waiting it to arrive). As of now, I will be doing "Hamachi and RDP to home" way, but I got idea. Why not bring OneNote, that actually works like OneNote to our phones?
Let's start with some images:
supporting loading/saving, different notebooks and sections, font settings, drawing as you draw by hand, lines, rectangles, ... selecting colors, thickness and what not. Using latest innovations (like finger scrolling over screen, either software or hardware keyboards, portrait/landscape switching, ...) ofc.
Are you interested? Will somebody use it? Or is it not worth doing?
// I forgot to wrote, that there would be also PC ver (or could be made) that would support editing, viewing, ... on PC too
// update #2: few more screenshots:
(those arrows on the right and bottom are for adding more space on the side)

if you ask me (of course you don't) then it doesn't make sense to create a "new" OneNote.
what would make more sense is to have a better OneNote on PPC, but use the format the M$ OneNote uses and replace the PPC client.
It would make less work, because you do not have to write a PC version.
cheers!

Obelix_A said:
if you ask me (of course you don't) then it doesn't make sense to create a "new" OneNote.
what would make more sense is to have a better OneNote on PPC, but use the format the M$ OneNote uses and replace the PPC client.
It would make less work, because you do not have to write a PC version.
cheers!
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I will check the .onex format for new 2010 onenote (better zipped new archive than old binary file), hope it will be selfexplaining so I could make it.
The default onenote mobile sucks - you can't draw anywhere or write anywhere you want (or at least I havent found it there).
We'll see what is possible and what isn't, I must take in consideration that this is phone with touchscreen and not pc with mouse.

I couldn't find any export to .onex, the new 2010 still uses .one binary-looking file?
Oh and implementing this? Forget about it, opening documents would take a lot of effort because it is.... just too much stuff. And the mobile onenote, can't find specs what it can and what can't do.
// Or I can simply stop saying "real mobile OneNote" and just say notebook application and problem solved too LOL. Porting to desktop windows is a matter of hour or two, because most of the code is shared. Even now I can run the app from phone and run it directly on PC, without recompiling or so, all I need is to have installed .NET CF GAC on PC (which I do).

[Q] Windows Mobile professional apps on standard

Why some apps which are designed for windows mobile professional doesn't work on windows mobile standard?
It shows error: an unexpected error has occurred in ... . In details: at Microsoft.AGL.Common.MISC.HandleAr(PAL_ERROR ar) at ... .
Is it possible to make them work on it?

mat1371 said:
Why some apps which are designed for windows mobile professional doesn't work on windows mobile standard?
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The error is probably being thrown because some object is not supported under the Standard SDK.
There are several .Net Compact Framework Windows Forms components that cannot be used on a 'Standard' smart phone.
A button to name but one. You cannot click it as there is no touch screen. An alternative method would be to use the menu bar instead so the user can just press the relative real menu button under it.
Other items are Splitters, Tab Controls, UpDown Numeric Spinners, Calendars, Listboxes etc. etc.
It is possible to write a program that can run on either Professional or Standard, and behave accordingly, but it is a lot more work, and must be decided at design time.
It cannot be 'made' to work, short of obtaining the source code and re-engineering it to run under the Standard SDK.