Unable to Access EnergyROM threads - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I apologize if this is a redundant question but for the past few days I've been unable to pull up either the Titanium or HTC Sense threads originated by NRGZ28. I see by the other threads they've been upgraded so now scrolling through them is different; but I also see messages being posted to the EnergyROM threads and I can't access them either by my subscription page or the thread itself; I'd appreciate any advice and help; thanks...This is within the ROM threads where he has his latest ROMs posted; thanks again!

Here working perfect
I assume you tried here right?
http://hotfile.com/list/93322/b5a2687
If not working let me know what ROM version you need and I can reupload it on another site

SnittyKitty said:
I apologize if this is a redundant question but for the past few days I've been unable to pull up either the Titanium or HTC Sense threads originated by NRGZ28. I see by the other threads they've been upgraded so now scrolling through them is different; but I also see messages being posted to the EnergyROM threads and I can't access them either by my subscription page or the thread itself; I'd appreciate any advice and help; thanks...This is within the ROM threads where he has his latest ROMs posted; thanks again!
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This has been happening to me too! for over a month now...but only if I'm logged in (I'm trying not to take it personal, haha).
Did you ever get it fixed? I thought it might be my browser, a corrupted cookie, or some weird cache issue, but in all browsers, freshly cleared, I have this problem.

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Mobile PDA version (archive) not working anymore

Dear Admins
The links to the archive does not work.
Its by far the best way to keep up on threads as it is possible to see threads listed by the date they are startet... Never miss anything
A typical link is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/f-260 /DEV/HACKING section...
Could someone please get it back.
Martinhdk said:
Dear Admins
The links to the archive does not work.
Its by far the best way to keep up on threads as it is possible to see threads listed by the date they are startet... Never miss anything
A typical link is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/f-260 /DEV/HACKING section...
Could someone please get it back.
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Sorry to sound like an arse, but what's "does not work" mean?*
I can access it fine, also putting .html on the link gives a different view : http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/f-260.html
*I'm a programmer, I get so many bugs saying stuff doesn't work.
Dave
Martinhdk, thanks for reporting it. We did have an issue with this earlier and it has been fixed since.

[Q] Beginner ? - Flash and Marketplace

I want to preface my questions by fully acknowledging my complete ignorance on this subject. Nothing is worse than someone who won't do their own leg work. I've hesitated posting these questions just because I didn't want to waste anyone's time. However, after spending literally hours I just ran out of options. I'm turning to the geniuses on XDA for some help.
I have the CDMA (Sprint) version of the Touch Pro2. I just installed the latest 2.2 build (the one that supports the external speaker).
There are 2 questions.
1. Is accessing the Marketplace for paid apps possible with the TP2 and this build of Android? If so, what changes do I need to make to my device to enable that capability. Right now I can only see free apps.
2. I was trying to get Flash to work. It doesn't show up in the Marketplace. I tried to install the apk file from a thread on this forum (can't post the link as a new user). However, I received a generic failed installation message. I also tried using SkyFire 2.3 (BETA). But when I navigate to a site with Flash on it I see a little box telling me to download Flash Player.
I really appreciate any help that I can get on this. Again, I apologize if I missed earlier discussions on these topics.
For the paid apps you have to download the market enabler. It's in the faq http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/faq Look for "I can't see any paid apps available for purchase in the Market."
I don't know if you can get flash enabled because we haven't got 3d working yet.
Thanks
Thank you very much. I really appreciate your time in answering the questions. I'm installing Market Enabler now.

[Q] install androidOS after HSPL cooked rom?

I flashed HardSPL on my tilt 2 last year with the Energy Rom using the GTX theme. Ever since I've been noticing that android is so much easier to use and I have been reading on the android Froyo development.
What I need to know is if I have to reflash Stock Rom with SSPL to be able to Flash the Android OS to it.
I've read all the FAQs and I have not seen this question on it and am wondering if anyone can answer it for me.
I don't know if I missed it or if I was looking for the answer at the wrong place.
So can someone please give me a link to a guide on how to do it properly because I don't want to brick my phone on the process. Also tips and precautions if you got any. Thank you!
Android can't be flashed to the phone a la WinMo yet.
Devs are working on it. Works great on my CDMA RHOD, but GSM is still a mystery...
To answer your question, you would need an unlocked bootloader (hSPL) to flash any unsigned image.
Android in its current form for our devices will run on stock SPL or hSPL, it doesn't care... everything runs off the SD card.
more questions
What is an Unasigned Image and what does it do or what is it for? Thank you for your answers.
Also how fast does Froyo run on the SD card. Is it slow? Is there a program to make android to auto start instead of it having to transtion from WM to android?
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What is an Unasigned Image and what does it do or what is it for? Thank you for your answers.
Also how fast does Froyo run on the SD card. Is it slow? Is there a program to make android to auto start instead of it having to transtion from WM to android?
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Unsigned image = anything that's not a stock ROM.
FroYo runs about as well as you can expect on our hardware... which I might mention predates Android entirely... Proc+RAM dates to 2007 on the TP2. Thanks HTC...
For making Android auto-start, search is your friend. Gen.Y is your answer.
Oh nice I didnt see it was you arrgggh. Ive read you posts all day for the past 3 days. I constantly wonder how you guys know all this stuff.
Have you guys thought about video instructions or image instructions for the forum?
I also had a question concerning your device. When you flashed the Cooked Rom on your device ( i know,not the android, its not cooked ) did it change the buttons on your keyboard? Mine did and Ive been looking like crazy for a program that allows me to set the keys to what ever character I want. I did come across it a year ago, but nowadays that post is long gone. Thank you for all your help.
AnswersInGenesis.org said:
Oh nice I didnt see it was you arrgggh. Ive read you posts all day for the past 3 days. I constantly wonder how you guys know all this stuff.
Have you guys thought about video instructions or image instructions for the forum?
I also had a question concerning your device. When you flashed the Cooked Rom on your device ( i know,not the android, its not cooked ) did it change the buttons on your keyboard? Mine did and Ive been looking like crazy for a program that allows me to set the keys to what ever character I want. I did come across it a year ago, but nowadays that post is long gone. Thank you for all your help.
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Video/image instructions...? A few have made videos, but stuff changes so frequently it would get outdated very quickly. A PITA to maintain... It's really not that difficult, is it?
I assume you're talking WinMo. I haven't used it in over a year - but there was some weird issue that effected only Sprint devices, and there was some cab that I installed that fixed the issue. Sorry, I'm not much help for WinMo. Ask cajunflavoredbob, I just tell people not to use it .

Frequently Asked Questions

[SIZE=+3]Frequently Asked Questions[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]HTC One (M8)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]This a short list of frequently asked questions in this device forum and the answers often given as a response. It should serve as a starting point for gathering knowledge and finding solutions to many common problems. Please only post in this thread with feedback on how to improve this document. Do not post "Thank you" type responses. If you have additional questions or require more help, try to find an existing thread or create your own. Do not use this as a general help thread.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Q1: What's the difference between "Development" and "Original Development"?[/SIZE]
Here are the rough guidelines as to what should be placed in "Original Development":
*Official release of highly original and upstream custom ROMs (built from the ground up with significant original development within them).
*Official releases/development of such original ROMs, perhaps posted by the maintainer or their nominated person.
*A significant "first" in development for a device. This is something which took considerable time/effort and is generally accepted by developers to be non-trivial.
*Kernels which are built with beneficial changes that are not simply pulled from other kernels already available.
*Tools and utilities with a clear purpose, and which are well-made, and useful to users. They should have an element of originality, either in purpose or through significant improvement in the means of operation.
*Significant port of a ROM from one device to another, giving enhanced features or functionality to the users of the target device.
All other development work goes into "Android Development".​
[SIZE=+1]Q2: How do I root my phone?[/SIZE]
First you need to unlock your bootloader. To do that, go to http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader. On the supported devices list, choose "HTC One (M8)"
Download the following file to your phone (either directly on your phone or transfer it via your computer) - http://www.mediafire.com/download/v27kh5nkpo3nfum/superuser.zip
Download the latest PhilZ Touch or TWRP recoveries and flash it by using fastboot commands. (It doesn't matter which recovery you use but I personally recommend TWRP.)
Once you've done that, reboot into recovery (using the combination in the next question) and flash the SuperSU.zip you already downloaded. Once complete, reboot and you'll be rooted.
Squabbi's Toolkit - If you're looking to root your phone quickly and easily this is the method for you.
hasoon2000's Toolkit - Here's another toolkit to root your phone quickly and easily.
*NOTE* I'll never recommend using a toolkit to root your device if you don't know how to do it manually because if you don't know how to root your phone manually, you shouldn't be rooting your phone.
*NOTE* Always be sure to double check everything you read and follow the instructions carefully.​
[SIZE=+1]Q3: How can I enter bootloader mode & recovery mode?[/SIZE]
To enter bootloader mode make sure your phone is turned off. Turn it back on while holding the 'volume down' button and you will successfully enter bootloader mode.
To enter recovery mode, you will need to enter the bootloader (as detailed above) then use the 'volume down' button to navigate to 'RECOVERY'. Press the power button to confirm your choice. You'll now be booted into your custom recovery.​
[SIZE=+1]Q4: What is the best ROM/kernel/modem?[/SIZE]
Honestly, there is no "best". It's all based on personal choice. For example; I may like heavily customizing my ROMs whereas you may like it to look at basic as possible. The best thing you can do is to just test out different ROMs/kernels/modems and see which you prefer.​
[SIZE=+1]Q5: What do terms like S-Off, RUU, MID etc. mean?[/SIZE]
Have a read through the following guide to better understand what these terms actually mean - [GUIDE] Everything Explained by @exad​
[SIZE=+1]Q6: Can I install an OTA with a custom recovery or if I have a custom ROM/kernel?[/SIZE]
No, you can't. Don't try installing an OTA if you're using CWM, TWRP or Philz as it won't work. It will only install via the stock recovery.
You'll also need to make sure that you're on the stock ROM and stock kernel.​
[SIZE=+1]Q7: I hear a lot about ADB. What is it?[/SIZE]
Find out everything you need to know by reading the following thread - ADB Workshop and Guide for everyone.​
[SIZE=+1]Q8: Am I required to backup my ROM before flashing anything else?[/SIZE]
No you're not, but it is definitely a good idea, especially when flashing a ROM with an updated base, because if you don't do a backup and then something goes wrong, it means that you'll lose all your apps, data etc. It just saves a lot of hassle.​
[SIZE=+1]Q9: Does this phone have good battery life?[/SIZE]
It's impossible to give you a perfect answer because there are so many different aspects which can affect battery life. We all have different apps installed, use our phones for different amounts of time, have different ROMs and kernels installed etc. so we will all experience different results regarding battery life.
Take a look at the Battery Stats Thread to see the usage & average battery life of other forum members.​
[SIZE=+1]Q10: This phone is amazing and I want to tell others how good it is.[/SIZE]
Woah! Wait a moment. DON'T create a new thread to tell us what you think of the M8. Instead, you can post your review in the following thread - Reviews thread​
[SIZE=+1]Q11: Are there any hardware/software issues with this phone which I should be aware of?[/SIZE]
To find a list of bugs/known issues, check out the following thread - HTC One M8 Bug-Find List. If you find any issues or solutions to current issues, post it into that thread and make the OP aware of it so that the list can be kept up-to-date.​
[SIZE=+1]Q12: I'm not sure whether to get the HTC One M8/what other phones compare to the M8?[/SIZE]
The only person who can make you want the device is you. If you're not sure whether to get this phone, go to your local phone shop which has stock and have a test run of it for yourself. This will give you a good feel as to whether you'll like the One M8 or not.
One thing to remember, if you're asking in this M8 forum, is that you're likely to get biased results. After all, the members who you're asking most likely either have the M8 or will be getting it.
If you're not sure what device to get and want to compare between your choices, please feel free to use the following thread - Device Suggestion Thread​
[SIZE=+1]Q13: When will the M8 be S-Off?[/SIZE]
The M8 is now S-Off. Check out the following thread to find out how to make your device S-Off - SunShine for modern Motorola & HTC devices
*NOTE* As you'll soon notice if you decide to S-Off, it'll cost you $25 to do so. Don't even think about moaning about the price here or especially in the SunShine thread. If you don't want to pay that price, don't S-Off or spend all the money and hours required to get an exploit for yourself!​
[SIZE=+1]Q14: I have a custom recovery installed but I can't boot into it.[/SIZE]
Use the command - fastboot erase cache.
You should now be able to boot into recovery.​
[SIZE=+1]Q15: I don't like Blinkfeed. Can I get rid of it?[/SIZE]
Yes you can.
To do so, swipe right from BlinkFeed so that you reach the "traditional" Android homescreen. Long press on an empty part of the screen and select "Manage home screen pages". You'll then see each of your home screens across the middle of your screen. Simply swipe across to the BlinkFeed screen and click "Remove".
If you change your mind and decide you want to add BlinkFeed again, copy the above steps until you see all your home screens and on the left hand panel you'll see the option "+BLINKFEED". Click that and you've now got it back.​
[SIZE=+1]Q16: I have a T-Mobile/AT&T HTC One M8. Can I flash the ROMs in this forum?[/SIZE]
Yes, at least you should be able to.
If you're not sure, check the OP of the ROM thread and search within the thread to find out for sure. The main variant with which you may not be able to flash ROMs in this forum is the Sprint model. As the Sprint variant is a CDMA device, and the others are GSM, ROMs from this forum may not work.​
[SIZE=+1]Q17: How can I change the shortcuts on my lockscreen?[/SIZE]
It's actually really simple. All you have to do is drag an app icon from your app drawer to your dock (either side of the app drawer icon) and then lock your screen to see that it has also been changed there aswell.​
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Okay guys, I've created this FAQ as I done the same to help those with the M7 and thought I'd do the same over here aswell.
Only post in this thread if you have an addition/improvement for this FAQ!
If you don't have an addition/improvement for this FAQ, then DON'T POST IN HERE! If you do, your post will be deleted on sight.
If you have a question, either ask in the Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting forum by creating your own thread OR ask in a currently existing thread which is the same topic. Only ask your question after you've already searched for the answer yourself though.
If any questions or irrelevant posts get made in this thread, just ignore them. I will clean them up when I see them. Replying to such posts won't help the situation in the slightest.
This IS NOT a help thread. This is simply an FAQ so NO questions should be being asked or answered in here.
Cheers,
- KidCarter93
I think it might be a good idea to explain what S-OFF is/does and the differences between GPE and Sense and GPE conversion. I could see that coming up a lot.
exad said:
I think it might be a good idea to explain what S-OFF is/does and the differences between GPE and Sense and GPE conversion. I could see that coming up a lot.
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Good idea. Cheers. I'll add it to the OP over the next few days when I get more free time
Seahorse said:
You cover How to S-Off, but this doesn't answer why you would want to and what it allows...
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That's already been suggested in the post above yours.
My apologies for lack of updates thus far but I'm been really busy in real life and therefore haven't had the time.
I will definitely update over the next couple of days
Sent from my HTC One via XDA Premium
First of all, as I mentioned in post #2, questions shouldn't be being asked in here. Suggestions are fine and even welcomed but questions are not.
Now, regarding adding information about S-Off, RUU's, CID/SuperCID etc. I'm debating creating a separate thread for such information. While I could always add certain parts into this FAQ, to properly explain each of these terms and exactly what they do would somewhat drown and overshadow all other information in this thread as well as most likely being more awkward to have it contained into a readable format.
I'm currently in talks with some other members about a potential new thread and am awaiting responses before I know how I'm going to deal with this. Until that point, the above posts will be kept here (not deleted yet) so that I don't forget about them.
That does not mean that questions are okay to be asked here. Read post #2 and stick to it
I'll update here once a decision has been made either way
Sent from my HTC One via XDA Premium
I've just updated the FAQ to include Q5 which includes a guide to explain things like S-Off, RUU etc.
As always, please let me know if there's anything which should be added and don't forget that questions are to be asked in a separate Q&A thread, NOT this thread!
I think this needs to be put in....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773203
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If you don't have an addition/improvement for this FAQ, then DON'T POST IN HERE! If you do, your post will be deleted on sight.
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Hi, as I saw more than once the question why there isn't any option to disable bluetooth visibility. This would be a good addition I think:
In essence this is a new "feature" HTC introduced for non-technical users.
The bluetooth visibility on an HTC One M8 works as follows. If you got your bluetooth activated AND you are in the Bluetooth settings screen the HTC One M8 ist visible for ohter devices. If you close this screen it is invisible to other devices.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Free mobile app
OTA and custom recoveries
Can I install the OTA with my custom recovery? Why is my phone not working after installing the OTA??
You cannot install an OTA unless you have a completely STOCK ROM and a completely STOCK kernel. If you have flashed a custom recovery do not download & install the OTA.
I've just updated the FAQ to include Q6 which is about installing OTA updates
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but why is the FAQ sticky being used as Q&A thread
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^^^This. As is mentioned in the OP, as well as having been stated a few times in this thread, this is a FAQ and not a help thread. If you have any questions either ask in the dedicated Help Thread or create a new thread within the Q&A section.
As always, only post in this thread if you have any suggestions for additional content to be added to the FAQ.
Updated the FAQ with an edit to Q13. As pointed out by @xunholyx, the S-Off needed updating to the SunShine thread rather than the old thread.
As always, if you have any potential additions to be added let me know by either posting here or sending me a PM.
Also, be sure to post here ONLY if you have an addition to the FAQ. Anything else will either be deleted or moved to a relevant location, dependant on what's deemed necessary.
Any questions should be asked in the Q&A forum or in the M8 Help Thread.
Cheers
Thank you very much for this. just got my m8 and wondering how to determine whether ROMs are compatible with the device if the thread does not specify it? i have the "m8_ul" variant (2.5ghz). i just want to make sure.
hey guys,
after doing a factory reset my m8 automaticly went into the twrp custom recovery which restarts over and over again.
i cant turn off the device.
please help
gilmirmo said:
hey guys,
after doing a factory reset my m8 automaticly went into the twrp custom recovery which restarts over and over again.
i cant turn off the device.
please help
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This isn't a support thread, its a repository for maintaining FAQs and their answers.
Does anyone ever answer queries in this forum or do they just look at them? I've posted 3 times and I find it highly unlikely that I'm not the only one with the issues I posted about.
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Does anyone ever answer queries in this forum or do they just look at them? I've posted 3 times and I find it highly unlikely that I'm not the only one with the issues I posted about.
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Unlikely yes. But did you consider the fact that is possible that the folks (like myself) that looked at your post didn't know the solution? We can respond to your post that we don't know the answer, but that doesn't' really add any value.
The notion that nobody here answers any questions is ridiculous, and its also insulting to those that spend countless hours helping others. If you look at other threads, you will see plenty of answers. Also, your last question was just asked 2 hours ago. So maybe an answer is still forthcoming.
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Unlikely yes. But did you consider the fact that is possible that the folks (like myself) that looked at your post didn't know the solution? We can respond to your post that we don't know the answer, but that doesn't' really add any value.
The notion that nobody here answers any questions is ridiculous, and its also insulting to those that spend countless hours helping others. If you look at other threads, you will see plenty of answers. Also, your last question was just asked 2 hours ago. So maybe an answer is still forthcoming.
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I didn't insinuate that no one gets answered, I noticed that the more technical the question (my post about not being able to remove stock apps), the more likely that someone will know the answer as it's a more common issue. However, there's an issue inside the system if either the lockscreen isn't secure or I'm unable to switch keyboard that someone must have either A) some knowledge on how that particular thing works or B) someone else has posted about it and been answered, but I don't know what to search for.
I apologise for being rash in my previous comment, but not being secure or using the stock keyboard is somewhat annoying. This being the number 1 usergroup for these issues, it's easy to see why when questions like these go unanswered, it becomes annoying.
I reflashed to stock after every thing I tried bar factory resetting my phone to get over my loudspeaker issues. Some ROM developer out there must have intimate knowledge of how Android handles audio routing.
mrme01 said:
I didn't insinuate that no one gets answered, I noticed that the more technical the question (my post about not being able to remove stock apps), the more likely that someone will know the answer as it's a more common issue. However, there's an issue inside the system if either the lockscreen isn't secure or I'm unable to switch keyboard that someone must have either A) some knowledge on how that particular thing works or B) someone else has posted about it and been answered, but I don't know what to search for.
I apologise for being rash in my previous comment, but not being secure or using the stock keyboard is somewhat annoying. This being the number 1 usergroup for these issues, it's easy to see why when questions like these go unanswered, it becomes annoying.
I reflashed to stock after every thing I tried bar factory resetting my phone to get over my loudspeaker issues. Some ROM developer out there must have intimate knowledge of how Android handles audio routing.
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I've went to the threads you started and answered your questions. I'm not sure if they are the answers you need, but I figured I'd try to help.
Not all questions get a response. It's the way it is. It depends who sees it, and if they have the answer.
EDIT: This is a FAQ thread, not a place to ask questions. I shouldn't have even responded.

LineageOS builds for gtelwifiue (Sam Tab E) stuck at boot logo - and Create Bug issue

Hi,
recently commented in a similar thread but no response.
I have a Samsung Tab E (gtelwifiue) with Los installed. Have done 2 or 3 updates (in device) already. But recently tried the last 4 builds available and none of them get past the animated Los logo when rebooting.
Pretty sure I'm doing everything the same as I have before, it's not really complicated. Download it, press to install, follow directions. But after pressing (in twrp) to reboot (after install), it sits at the logo screen, I waited 45 mins this morning for it to change, no joy.
Thanks (just joined Reddit this morning to report this, but won't let me post for 24 hrs).
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So I didn't find any answers to this after searching xda, following suggested links, etc.
But, You can open a bug report with LineageOS. In *this* case, it's a 'regression' bug (it used to work but no longer does). To create a bug like that it's important to at least have a good idea, if not the exact date, of when it did work (that cuts down a lot on the work needed to solve the problem).
I followed the links found on this page; https://wiki.lineageos.org/bugreport-howto.html
It's been accepted and assigned, no telling how long it will take, but at least I've done what I can do. Word to the wise; *always* do a backup before upgrading to a newer 'nightly', unfortunately, sometimes a new 'fix' for something might cause a problem with something unexpectedly.
cheers
AsItLies said:
Hi, recently commented in a similar thread but no response. I have a Samsung Tab E (gtelwifiue) with Los installed. Have done 2 or 3 updates (in device) already. But recently tried the last 4 builds available and none of them get past the animated Los logo when rebooting...
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I don't have this device but, the following threads may be helpful for what you are looking for and, if needed, post your question within one of them.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3585887
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3711983
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3606069
Good Luck!
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I DO NOT PROVIDE SUPPORT VIA PM UNLESS ASKED/REQUESTED BY MYSELF.
PLEASE KEEP IT IN THE THREADS WHERE EVERYONE CAN SHARE
Ibuprophen said:
I don't have this device but, the following threads may be helpful for what you are looking for and, if needed, post your question within one of them.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3585887
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3711983
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3606069
Good Luck!
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PLEASE KEEP IT IN THE THREADS WHERE EVERYONE CAN SHARE
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Hi and thanks for responding. The second link is actually the one that I've already responded in a few days ago. As near as I can tell, it seems to be a build issue as the older builds work okay. It certainly is confusing, I'll wait until I can post on the Reddit account for the Los Builders and see what they say.
Thanks again.
I updated the original post to indicate how to do a bug tracking problem. Thought it might help some people with some of the issues they've been indicating.

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