hi all!
i've got a very unstable xdaiii o2 uk
is the i-mate pda2 rom better?
i hope someone can help me cause its very frustrating!!!
thanks
Fantomas
personally, i found it better
Where can i find the latest i-mate rom????
I've found it better - though not significantly at least the lockups are less.
You can download it via:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23736&highlight=pda2+imate
Cheers
Ant
thanks Jim and Anton!
an other thing, i'm getting lock ups with tomtom 3+ BT GPS. i know about the turn off phone method to stop locking but whats the point of having a pda phone edition then! so its got to be an other solution!
does the pda2 rom stops the above problem ? cause the radio version on the pda2 is higher! by the way i've already uninstalled o2 stuff!
or should i hard reset and go corporate on xdaiii (to see if lockups stops) before changing over to i-mate rom?
lastly! are the programs on the PDA2 excatly the same than xdaiii? (i mean all programs identical)
thanks again!
i'm impressed with this forum and all of you on it!
Fantomas
On TT3 I found lockups dropped substantially once I'd hidden the POIs - have you tried this? TT5 (now that I've added the POI and the 5.10) seems a lot better.
Some programs are not included like in the O2 version, but then also some things are included in the ROM as standard like the fax viewer, and also a copy of Skype. CallerID and MMS programs are still there as they're integrated into the ROM.
Ant
I have recently purchased a new O2 XDA Exec.
I would like to load up the JasJar firmware onto my XDA so that I wouldn't have any O2 software on it. As I am new to all this, would it be possible to help me work out how to do this step by step.
Thank you very much for all your help.
Tom
Why do you want to do this, the Jasjar rom is as buggy as hell.
True. I agree. I had an MDA Pro, rigged it with a Jasjar rom, and I now have an Exec, and I would be inclined to say that even the MDA Pro rom is more stable than the Jasjar one.
Well the thing is I don't really want any specific phone software on my phone, I just want windows mobile 5, but still being able to phone people and view webpages on my 3g connection. I thought that is what the jasjar rom is, is there a way of just having windows moible 5 and non of the o2 stuff at all, that inculdes the o2 icon at the top of the menu.
I'd go for corporate mode then. Just select corporate and type 0506 before the timer runs out.
that is what I have atm, however I just want the standard windows mobile 5. Also is it possible to remove the o2 logo and the o2 batty battery meter?
thanks agin.
that is what I have atm, however I just want the standard windows mobile 5. Also is it possible to remove the o2 logo and the o2 batty battery meter?
thanks agin.
that is what I have atm, however I just want the standard windows mobile 5. Also is it possible to remove the o2 logo and the o2 batty battery meter?
thanks agin.
hi
hard reset ur exec and opt for corporate mode ( pin no 0506) while customisation is going on and before timer runs out, as mentioned by another member.
then
U will be hunting down forums to get a O2 battery meter as it will remove all o2 stuff
hope it helps
Jatt
hey guys, sorry for posting so many previous replies, yer, I got it to work, see I have been using a different code, the 5210 code, and that coperate code still has all the o2 stuff however the 0506 cooperate code doens't have any of that, thanks for the help guys, very much appriciated.
Tom
Can someone please share their experience.
I am interrested to know how the devices perform in the Corporate install of the O2 and the JasJar.
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
The corporate with the code 0506?
Is the pocket MSN there on that configuration?
Which one is the most generic config?
a18041967 said:
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?
skearon said:
a18041967 said:
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?
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Yes,you can flash any ROM to your Jasjar , you will lose your setting email..etc,others same as new.
I have just loaded my MDA PRO with the O2 ROM, and tryed all the possible installs (basic, Corporate with code 0506 and personal)
Only the Corporate one is really customisation free. I have myself bypassed the extended_ROM so now I have run only one cab the Default_Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed.CAB which is responcible for the video call. Strangely enough I have the same scin in the dialer as I had in the JasJar ROM...
Also as mentioned by... that by O2 ROM the splash screen is not installed it is not true, as right after the upgrade to the O2 ROM and the reset you see the O2 splash screen, which is untill now the nicest looking splash screen.
What I can say after 2 hours of using the O2 ROM is the following:
1. The amount of free program memory after reset is the same as by JasJar ROM.
2. The device is at least twice as fast as with the JasJar ROM.
Conclusion for now I am much happier with the O2 ROM. Much more stable and responsive.
As I am using Jasjar and after your comments I am considering moving to o2 could you tell me how you configured your Jasjar? Specifically, I am using my jasjar without the extended rom except for the video dialler and the bluetooth patch. It is generally running well except for the need to hard reset once in a while. When comparing with the O2 were you also using Jasjar without extenstion?
Thanks, apap
Having used both ROMs, I think they're essentially the same ROM with a few minor branding cosmetic mods... The two ROMs are only dated 2 wks apart and doubt there are any major differences.
To be honest, I couldn't find any performance gain or loose using either one of them and the O2 ROM seem to be slightly smaller in size (maybe due to the additional Imate games/themes etc?) So after going Imate ROM with O2 extended ROM, I went back to all O2 ROM..
I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards
OK boys and girls...
I have tryed the O2 ROM the whole day yesterday and last night late reverted to JasJar ROM. Reason: maybe I did something wrong but in corporate install of the O2 ROM with the code 0506 but I had no pdf reader which is unfortunately a crucial software for me. I have tried to install it from the cabs of the O2 ROM and from JasJar ROM but it would not work. Of course the solution might be to get a cracked version. But that fact pissed me off so much that I have loudly cursed O2 and reverted to JasJar.
Observations: I have noticed that O2 ROM has more program memory when you reset the device but once you use the thing the amount of program ROM is the same as in JasJar. So the fact that just after the soft reset there is more ROM is actually not interresting. I also found that in the O2 ROM there is a problem with the start menu opening up first time after a soft reset (If you soft reset the device and then for the first time click on start it takes 10-13 seconds to open it up) and this issue was the biggest issue for me to change to O2 ROM. Pocket MSN seemed to work faster and is more responsive on the O2 and maybe overal performance is a little notch better then JasJar. The Bootup Splash screen on the O2 is much nicer then on JasJar it is really sharp and cool
Conclusions: If you like experimenting try out the O2 ROM because you get to see also (if you try out the Personal install) how badly an operator can F*** up the device, it is beyond my understanding but it is hideous their Launch software, the screen looks like a battle field and I get dizzy looking at it, the task manager which it installs is such a crap only due to a fact that once you close all the progs with the task manager the task manager is still running so to close it too you have to go to settings ->system->memory and close it from there. I can understand that the task manager which you can use from your today screen has to be running in order to work but this task manager you have to start by going to programs and starting it manually, It is comepletely beyond me what is the purpose of such a task manger, but hey maybe I am STUPID ???
The battery icon moved next to the start I can understand the handyness of this, but the O2 icon which does not do anything is also comepletely beyond my understanding. Plus when changing the screen orientation the battery and the O2 icons suddenly get a darker background and it looks like it hangs, but it only looks like it the device does not hang, but it is still an ugly sight to see...
If you opt for the Corporate install with the 0506 code I think you are fine the machine performs as it should, and is very stable, no O2 annoyances and no O2 **** to be seen apart from a couple of icons in the Programs. One of them is the O2 install which I beleive supposed to allow you to change your install type, without making a hard reset, but of course it only works in one direction, meaning that if you have a corporate install with the code 0506 and you want to change to standard or to personal it will work but if you are running the standard and want to go back to corporate or if you are runnning the Personal (full featuer O2) and want to change to standard it will not work. After playing around with that I have found that my simmanager and enroller icons dissapeared, but I was able to get it back by running one of the cabs. it was different with the pdf reader, since I need one I have decided to run that O2 install type thingy and chose first standard install which did not bring the pdf back, and then I have chosen the personal install which would mean that I should have now everything on it , the pdf icon was there but alais the pdf did not work I kept on getting an error.
One more thing when you install the CORP version the dialer skin is the same as by the JasJar so I beleive that that is the generic skin, since the O2 Dialer skin is very vague the buttons are beautiful, but have to much light in them so it is difficult to see the letters
SO I am back to JasJar ROM and I beleive will stick to it for a while.
The progs I run :
TT5.1
Resco Explorer
Skype 1.2 beta
Backgammon
Total commander
All installed on the storage card
I hope this not too boring and helps folks here.
srmz said:
I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards
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I have done it and reverted back to the JasJasr rom no problems and I have an MDA PRO, so I am even further way from home.
Follow this thread to learn what are the procedures for upgrading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29354&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Good luck
The Exec ROM (basic and Corporate) do not suffer from a buggy Messaging app on the JJ ROM. The JJ ROM can cause the JJ to freeze on SMS notification and can crash when receiving emails over UMTS.
You mean the imate email app ?? or the bult in functionality. Because I do not have those symptoms. and I have received only today already about 12 sms messages.
About receiving the e-mail overUMTS: I use exchange active sync over UMTS and works like a charm without any problems...Maybe it freezes when using pop mail or imap? What is your configuration ?
And once again by the "buggy messaging app" you mean the imate e-mail??
Can someone confirm the presence of MSN and PDF inthe O2 Corporate mode ????
Thanx
Jasjar or O2?
I have also been wondering whether to try O2. Overall, after many trials I am quite satisfied with Jasjar. I have not installed extended rom except for bluetooth patch and smardialer cabs. I am running: pocketinformant, magicbutton, repligo, netfront 3.3, resco explorer, pocket mechanic, microsoft voice command. I have done a number of recommended register tweaks. I have also updated the radio to 1.04.
Speed is good.
Remaining problems: Once in a while I need to soft reset to overcome freezes. My main problem now is that I cannot install new programs or updates, nor can I remove programs.
It would be useful to find out how others are dealing with these problems and whether thos running O2 corporate are confronting similar problems.
Should I switch to O2 corporate? There seem to be conflicting views on the matter.
thanks, apap
Churchill:
You wrote a few things about Extended ROMs, Code 0506 (for o2 Corp. mode?), and about bypassing the extended ROMs.
Also there was a mention of bluetooth and radio Cabs...
I would be obliged if you could elaborate and explain them to me.
I have the o2 Exec and would like to experiemnt with the corp. mode since I find that in personal mode it freezes up all too often (not enough memory I guess...) but I wouldn't like to loose essential functionality by changing my ROM.
Thanks in advance
Well I am right now updating my MDA PRo from JasJar Rom to O2 ROM, since I still think the O2 ROM was a notch faster in the corporate mode.
I would not advice you to bypass the extended rom install as I found that some things do not work properly like the sim manager and pdf.
You are fine with the Corporate mode since it is the cleanest of all options including the JasJar.
Also Pocket MSN is more responsive in the O2 corporate mode, then with JasJar ROM.
So just go ahead and do a hard reset and choose corporate mode with the code 0506.
By the Way as I have already mentioned earlier the Boot splash screen of O2 is the best till now. Funny is that I was called by T-Mobile representative a couple of days ago and asked what I think about the MDA PRO. I have told him that MDA PRO with t-mobile customization is history by me and I am running JasJar. He warned me that if something happens to my device they can not help me now since there is no t-mobile rom available to flash it with (I do not understand that where is the release rom? did they loose it or something?) but I am still eligible for my 2 year warranty. He also asked why I have switched to JasJar, I have told him that the t-mobile customisation is crap and that the device was slow and unstable. He confirmed that and also saysd that this is exactly the reason why he is contacting me, since they aparently received a threat from one of the major consumer organisations in the netherlands. So he sayd that they are verifying the isue with the users and it does not look good since everybody complains. So hopefully t-mobile will release new rom soon...
Funny is that I have mentioned to him that I hate the hideous colors and boot splash screen of t-mobile rom, his answere was that the boot splash screen they are extremely proud of since it took a long time to come up with the design.... DUDE how long can it take to come up with something so hideous?
Anyhow....
P.S. I let you guys know how is my MDA PRo with O2 ROM
Adobe acrobat reader is available freely from the adobe site, in the same way as their readers always are:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforppc.html
HTH
The O2 Exec has OS 1.13.48, which has a memory leak bug. Commontime mNotes synchronization cannot free the memory after use, so a 3rd consecutive sync empties out all remaining RAM. This was resolved in OS version 1.13.53, which is on the Jasjar.
Yes, the Exec ROM seems a tad faster, but at least for me the memory leak is decisive for the Jasjar ROM.
Jasjar or O2?
Wiz, have you reverted to Jasjar? Also, I do not quite understand the memory leak problem. Does this mean that there is a danger of losing note information? Finally, any suggestions on how to resolve the inability to add new programs? Does this problem occur only with Jasjar?
Thanks, apap
P3600 will work with the WM6?
HTC will upgrade that for free?
Opinions?
Thanks
1) Yes
2) No
3) HTC will upgrade under payment ? could be but i think no
Thanks
We need to wait
where can u get WM6 for HTC p3600?
Have they completed it? and does it include the GPS activation like the WM5 ROM?
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Have they completed it? and does it include the GPS activation like the WM5 ROM?
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1- No
2- Don't know
:/
My best guess is to forget about wm6 being available to p3600. There's no market interest in developing wm6 to p3600. New devices will come out to replace p3600 and that devices will have wm6.
I'm not being negative about the subject, but i bet my p3600 that *if* one day wm6 will be available it's because of a cooked version.
Cr7pt0r said:
My best guess is to forget about wm6 being available to p3600. There's no market interest in developing wm6 to p3600. New devices will come out to replace p3600 and that devices will have wm6.
I'm not being negative about the subject, but i bet my p3600 that *if* one day wm6 will be available it's because of a cooked version.
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this is what i think is a little bit strange, isnt it coming new models to replace the tytn and p3300 too? but they gets it anyway?
/Jonsson
EDIT:
isnt these two models the replacement for tytn and p3300?
# HTC P4550 (HTC Kaiser) release in June, replacement for TyTN. 400MHz Samsung processor with 3G HSDPA + HSUPA (Highspeed Uplink Packet Access), WiFi, BT, GPS, 2.8MP camera and only 18mm thick. Windows Mobile 6 Professional.
# HTC P3450 (HTC Elf) release in June. TI OMAP 850 processor. Windows Mobile 6 Professional.
source but in swedish:
http://www.winmobile.se/news.php?item.258
I downloaded and installed WM6 for the P3600 yesterday, I used the HTC thread to get it, there are issues.
1. There seems to be an issue with data transfer, the phone now doesn't recognise when it's in an Edge, GPRS or 3G environment.
2. The phone now no longer connects to the GPS, it tries to reach it via a dial out connection, with the distant modem (obviously) not responding.
3. I'm having issues connecting wi-fi to my wireless network, it sees it, but doesn't want to connect.
4. HTC have written something to the phone that requests you input where you are, however the only options are in South east asia, I think this has something to do with the dialling out when trying to use GPS.
Besides that, it is very sexy and I haven't stopped playing with it.
I have the file available as a 61.2mb download, as this is my first post, I'm not quite sure how to upload it here, anyone who wants it can have it, just tell me how to upload it - maybe someone can fix the issues highlighted above.
where did u find it ?
Have been using WM6 (Bepe 0.79 build) for a while now but have since purchased a lot of the SPB software. I dont really use the WM6 HTC Home features and was wondering what advantages there are really with WM6. Apart from Exchange server contact lookup and timelines within the calendar app is there much else?
I am suffering battery drain and memory leaks constantly with WM6.
Help appreciated as to whether I should downgrade to WM5. Will this make the device faster and more stable?
Thanks reKall
Hi,
I've been in the same case as I'm using SPB mobile shell.
So I downgraded to WM5.
I think in our quiery for the best we've all forgot how fast is WM5 on trinity.
I found WM5 faster than any WM6 ROM I have tested, and with NO memory loss.
BUT (yes there is a BUT) I came back to WM6 beacause I have data corruption on my 2Go SD card. If I find a fix, I wil definitely return to WM5.
SD card encryption does it for me ..