Check this out !!
Windows Mobile 7 Demo
http://www.windowsphone7series.com/
/Stefan
and...
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/...allery.aspx?contentID=mobileworldcongress2010
When can we see some Tilt 2 Windows Mobile 7 roms?
from msdn
http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/LauraFoy/First-Look-Windows-Phone-7-Series-Hands-on-Demo/
kawie95 said:
When can we see some Tilt 2 Windows Mobile 7 roms?
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Perhaps in your dreams ? Nah, just kidding but I don't think that it would be possible for our devices to run wp7, especially the multimedia edition. There are so much things that are speaking against our phones to be capable for wp7. But I guess time will tell us more in near future. I'm very excited and I hope that xda won't suffer a lot from its release due to a lot of restrictions
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I'm very excited and I hope that xda won't suffer a lot from its release due to a lot of restrictions
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que?? what?? Is there a release out??
Ouch, my battery will drain in an hour now running that.
looks good but....
looks very good but i still prefer android
Stisse said:
que?? what?? Is there a release out??
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No, but they released a lot of details about how they were going to lock out a lot of features that we love to play with.
I'd imagine that you'd have to have at LEAST 1ghz processor to run it. Looks VERY demanding on the device with all the animation and to keep the scrolling smooth. Is very cool though.
Hope everything runs smooth like the iphone no lagging screen freezing require a soft reset now & then. I like windows phones don't get me wrong been a user since 2003 but my brother have a iphone & I have a touch pro2 and everything runs better and smoother on the iphone.
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I don't think we will, they hardware specs mentioned state "Capacitive screens" the Tilt 2 is Resistive. Although, on saying that I am hoping the very talented chefs here can work a way round that, actually I'm confident they can.
I have a TP2 so am in the same boat with my Resistive screen, so fingers crossed.
The only thing I can't see being portable to Resistive screens so far though is the multi-touch features, guess we'll be watching this space, there are still questions I have in my mind and I have another 18 months left on my contract before I can upgrade without having to fork out for the handset so I can only afford to wait anyway.
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Maybe not, but there is some hope...
Why?
Because I never expectet ever, that on the very old Magician/MDA Compact runs not only WM 2003 SE, but WM 5.0 and WM 6.0
Or on the Hermes /XDA Trion not only WM 5.0, but WM 6.0 and WM6.1 and WM 6.5.x
Thanks to xda-devs five star cookers
user interface "METRO"
(user interface "METRO") preview...
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when it debuts? if so, we'll be getting cooked version here? when is it expected to come along>?
WM6 just came out earlier this year.. its probably too early for anyone to be able to give you a definate answer.
No one can tell the future. Questions like this only fuel speculation and rumours.
im sure by the time WM7 comes out there will be no more Hermes
Honestly I hope they change WM7 so much it isnt compatible. Seriously Windows Mobile needs a huge overhaul. It should look completely different and be so much more functional that it can't even run on old devices. Thats my hope. Plus in the 1-2 years before it comes out most of us probably won't even have our Hermes anymore.
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when it debuts? if so, we'll be getting cooked version here? when is it expected to come along>?
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THIS is useless post wm7 lol
KanosWRX said:
Honestly I hope they change WM7 so much it isnt compatible. Seriously Windows Mobile needs a huge overhaul. It should look completely different and be so much more functional that it can't even run on old devices. Thats my hope. Plus in the 1-2 years before it comes out most of us probably won't even have our Hermes anymore.
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Totally agreed. Most of the time, backwards compatibility only hinders progress and development.
the Hermes is already obsolete
why do you think the hermes is obsolete?
i still have my 8125 and use it every weekend. going on what like almost 3 years old now. most new phones are still using either the 200mhz processors like the elf and tytn II is still using the 400mhz. only real diff. is the rom and ram. obsolete for who someone who needs the newest and greatest maybe.
i like thread that speculate like this why not rumors dont hurt any1 and just a real basic topic and seeing how that the tytn II is running wm6 then it has a good chance of being upgraded to wm7 right i mean were able to get are wizards and hermes to wm6. and since the hermes is the same basic device as the tytn II then i dont see it not being a possibility unless the tytn II is unable to be upgraded or that it requires more ram and rom to run. either way i dont think that wm7 is going to be a giant leap. ms is very slow at major changes and wm6 is basically like a sp2 for wm5 in a way. so i dont think that wm7 will be as much of a leap as most would hope.
but just my opinion on the matter i like these threads.
Lets see. Maybe it will be a WM8 or ......
Everything wich makes my device better is welcome !!!!
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when it debuts?
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End of 2007? See this older article at Brighthand
rydor
nateshuntsvegas said:
why do you think the hermes is obsolete?
i still have my 8125 and use it every weekend. going on what like almost 3 .
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The new Tytn II is out you know...
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The new Tytn II is out you know...
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6th generation Ipods are out, does that make my 4th generation ipod obselete? Nope, works just as well as 5th and 6th gen.
Windows Mobile 7
JediFonger said:
when it debuts? if so, we'll be getting cooked version here? when is it expected to come along>?
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Considering Mobile 6 came out shorlty AFTER Windows 6 (i.e. Vista).
Then it is not too hard to imgagine the same for WM7 coming out after Windows 7 (Formerly Blackcomb or Vienna). It is slated for 2010.
But there may be an intermediate release for WM6, likely not to be named WM7, just updates/tweaks.
hehe maybe service packs? why dont mobiles have that more often... not like everything is peachy of every new device and even old ones... there are so many bugs that everyone on such communities as this one fix, that i do not understand why we dont have more service packs for mobile devices :/ esp when a number of new devices come out and need the OS to be tweaked to utilize there new features or hardware.
Don't see any special difference between the TyTN 1 and 2 except the screen that moves in a special position and a new design...
I'm personally waiting for windows mobile 14...hopefully my 8525 will run it
haha
My first PDA in 2001 had PPC2002 (Compaq Ipaq) now my Jasjam (Hermes) is WM6 with this forums help
I would not get excited about anything from msoft in the future, I cant believe that 3 revisions and 6 years and there is not that much difference.
That is why you need killer apps and xda developers to make the Hermes into an excellent device. Mine is the way I want it now and very happy with it
People I still cant believe that HTC are releasing new models that dont support 3G. There isnt a device out there you would trade a Hermes for yet??
It would be great to see a newer device with enough memory to run itself for a few hours without grinding to a halt. How about a device like the S710 with 3G? It doesnt hurt to dream? Hopefully the right people read these forums?
Windows Mobile Vista is sure to ruin EVERYTHING!!!
http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/archives/2008/01/06/exclusive-windows-mobile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
Here are the details of the new Windows Mobile 7 due to be released on Devices in 2009.
Seems that some of the new technology may require new hardware, but we will see if it's compatible with the Hermes.
Awesome !!!
Maybe a little too awesome. Something like this is just fine for tweakers like us, but something tells me that having to remember what all these different shakes and gestures mean is going to baffle everyday users.
That being said though, the scrollbars, pan arrows and zoom boxes are genuis.
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Seems that some of the new technology may require new hardware, but we will see if it's compatible with the Hermes.
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I have a lot of faiths to the genius developers here in this forum. Having said that, I think I would probably have replaced my Hermes by then.
i would love to have this on my Phone!!! i will tell my brother to shuv his iPhone up his Asssssss
It's really nice locking windows but I think it's not gonna be compatible with Hermes
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It's really nice locking windows but I think it's not gonna be compatible with Hermes
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Why? Or just a feeling?
I can see this, people walking around and all of a sudden, you see someone just shake their phone. The looks you would get from non tech savvy people.
PaY87 said:
Why? Or just a feeling?
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Just a feeling I think that Hermes don't have enough RAM and ROM for this windows and processor may be to slow (or not)!
at least any wm6.1 around? Just waiting to see next wm6.1 on my hermes, WM7 is still far away ...
This is something that should be launched by Xmas 08 as 6.1 or 6.5. If Samsung can release a bespoke touch phone interface by this Xmas 07 (F700) - what the hell have M$ been playing at?
Sitting on the dubious laurels of WM spring to mind. The fact is that companies like Samsung (i600) and HTC (their touch software/hardware) have done about a million times more to keep WM usable than MS have done.
Remember 09 they will likely be competing with a 2nd or 3rd generation 3G iphone, probably App Unlocked in some ways, and probably Me-Too phones from all the Major phone makers.
Too little too late is my thought.
Another thought does this blog have a legit history of predictions?
yes
hope to have something before 2009
http://www.zooomr.com/photos/[email protected]/
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...-windows-mobile-7-try-windows-mobile-6-5.html
Second half of 2009 is definitely a ways off..
cirial said:
Second half of 2009 is definitely a ways off..
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Cool, can't wait to cook roms with it!!! and YES I'll be around then!
cirial said:
Second half of 2009 is definitely a ways off..
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It needn't be that late for 6.5 ROMs to start appearing here, need it? Going by version 6 experiences, we could expect to see the 6.5 ROMs as early as this year. Hermes support is an unknown though.
kernelguy
MUT%$ Fu&%$!!!!!!!
HAhahahahaha i was exited.... sorry... but without screenshots it becames like the WM7 Toughts hahaha.... we all spect not to have the enhaced oS with 3D processor like the new Diamond hardware....
Hope its not and can be cooked to hermes....
I dont know if i want to believe this or not...
Will the Hermes be ready for WM7???
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Will the Hermes be ready for WM7???
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try one of these roms with manilla and you'll know... hermes is such a great pda but its resources are very limited and microsoft has tradition in releasing new systems that like to eat a big slice of memory. let's see.
there's always a possibility that this is just speculation. apple os for the iphone is a big deal when it comes to finger friendly apps, so is google android and microsoft knows that all... and let's not forget that nokia is also about to release their iphone-like handset running a touchscreen version of their Symbian OS which the market's been waiting for a long time. microsoft needs to react really fast, i think that 'second half of 2009' would be way too late.
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Will the Hermes be ready for WM7???
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Depends on how flashy they make it. My old HTC Typhoon that came with WM2003SE runs WM6.1 just fine right now. But if MS starts relying heavily on graphics processing, 2D or 3D, most older devices won't be able to handle it.
Yea your probably right.
But I think in 2009 I can buy a new telephone then
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Will the Hermes be ready for WM7???
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No, because WM7 is built on WinCE 6.0, Hermes runs WinCE 5.0.
i really do not know if our Hermes will fit the WM6.5
i'd like to think that by the time wm6.5 and wm7 rolls around, most of us will have replaced the hermes with somn newer from HTC+nvidia's tegra600 or better GPUs
http://www.nvidia.com/page/handheld.html
i can't wait til what kinds of neat things xda devs. can do with a fully powered GPU and lots more room to do it with. i'm always amazed what xda devs. can do with hermes platform already =P.
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i'd like to think that by the time wm6.5 and wm7 rolls around, most of us will have replaced the hermes with somn newer from HTC+nvidia's tegra600 or better GPUs
can do with a fully powered GPU and lots more room to do it with. i'm always amazed what xda devs. can do with hermes platform already =P.
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yes, nvidia's tegra600 is good future stuff! Are U sure HTC is working with nvidia tegra600?
what needs to happen
I would never say that wm 6.5 or 7 can't run on the hermes, odds are it will be so memory heavy that it will not have much free program memory to run.
having said that, I still have a mpx200 in the drawer that I mess with every now and then, it started with wm2002, then went through the os's all the way up to wm6.1 after someone figured out how to use the storage card for the os to run.
My guess is that it would take someone figuring out how to load the os (or most of it) onto the card and run the programs (or most of them) from the card so that the program memory could run the device. (here is where the nonbelievers say things about how the sdcard tranfer rate is not fast enough to run programs or how the hermes prossesor is not made for the os...blah...blah...blah) all I can say is tell your naysaying to my mpx200
and for those who say get a better device, ah, were not talking about launching the shuttle here, it's a ppc, 400mhz is plenty to keep the hermes a very usable device for the average user for a long time.
The point is not will I use it, but could I use it and with the right developers, I am very confident I could and will.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1653
supposed screenshots of 6.5.
if you look at the icons some of them are imac icons. Its not a real shot of it.
I dont know but
watch at your help app icon (lifesaver) comes from the Linux OS
so maybe is maybe isn't the only thing we can spect is the release date... and maybe neither that.
Screenshots says nothing....i can put an iphone skin on my hermes....
i'm not 100% sure these screenshots are fake but one thing i must say is that they do look a lot like the Zune interface which would definitely be a good market strategy for microsoft to put all their mobile experiences with a similar look.
zune is a great music player and its market share's been growing rapidly it would be a quite smart move from microsoft to get everything in the family.
what is this? theme? custom rom?
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/04/06/windows-mobile-7-features-demonstrated-on-video.html
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what is this? theme? custom rom?
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/04/06/windows-mobile-7-features-demonstrated-on-video.html
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Apparently they are using our dash as a testbed for windows 7 platform (not a full rom), it definitely looks greats, probably we can see this early next year since WM is loosing a lot of ground with android.
If that is true, then we can hope that we will have funcional WM7 ROM with so many great chefs here.
Moto MPx200 was used for testing WM5, and it got funcional WM5 ROM.
Carebear85 said:
If that is true, then we can hope that we will have funcional WM7 ROM with so many great chefs here.
Moto MPx200 was used for testing WM5, and it got funcional WM5 ROM.
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I don´t know if it will be possible, given the hardware´s age. In fact, you should take a read on this article from WMexperts saying that no device available today is (or will be) able to run WM7.
Regards
i sold my Motorola Mpx200 with WM5 operating ROM, it needed the SD card ALLWAYS in the phone cause system files where there!!
regards
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Apparently they are using our dash as a testbed for windows 7 platform (not a full rom), it definitely looks greats, probably we can see this early next year since WM is loosing a lot of ground with android.
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Hey senor clown
windows mobile 7 thumbs down
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Apparently they are using our dash as a testbed for windows 7 platform (not a full rom), it definitely looks greats, probably we can see this early next year since WM is loosing a lot of ground with android.
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i truly agree with u all people talk bout is android iphone an blackberry i used to have a blackberry i dont see wat so great with it WM has ton more apps and customization u can do to the phone and i just think windows dug a deeper hole with there WM7... nothing against windows i still bought the hd2 probably last window phone ill buy unless they step up an make a phone that compete with iphone and android...
just my preference
i would love to hav this even if its not fully functional just to see what w7 feels like
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i truly agree with u all people talk bout is android iphone an blackberry i used to have a blackberry i dont see wat so great with it WM has ton more apps and customization u can do to the phone and i just think windows dug a deeper hole with there WM7... nothing against windows i still bought the hd2 probably last window phone ill buy unless they step up an make a phone that compete with iphone and android...
just my preference
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The hd2 is a great device, it will be the first device capable of running 3 OS (WM, Android and WM7). I'm still sticking with WM for a while but will definitely get an android phone in the near future. Regarding the dash with WM7, I really doubt we can see something since hardware will not allow...but a theme can be a possibility.
Not that anybody would even think it and i'm probably pointing out the obvious, but there's no hope for microsoft even bringing out 7 updates for even the latest phones, which is sad. The HD2 wasn't allowed one because it apparently didn't have the right button layout. (I mean come on.) I wish microsoft would just release some of this software for dated phones like the Dash, just for us to have a play around with.
try this theme
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try this theme
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if that does the same also lie
Only WM7 skin
awesome theme, great job
now just need to find someway to get zune in WM 6.5 and update titanium weather to latest build
who have windows7 mobile yet?i need it pleas
ratha4 said:
who have windows7 mobile yet?i need it pleas
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It's not even out yet
In addition, Windows 7 will not be released on the HTC Touch HD (T8282). Currently, only the HTC Touch HD2 (T8585) is set receive an official Windows Mobile 7 update in the distant future.
Regards.
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In addition, Windows 7 will not be released on the HTC Touch HD (T8282). Currently, only the HTC Touch HD2 (T8585) is set receive an official Windows Mobile 7 update in the distant future.
Regards.
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We are going to get WM7 too..you don't think so? you are so far behind
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We are going to get WM7 too..you don't think so? you are so far behind
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You are wrong mate... Microsoft had already stated that no device that was available at the time of the Windows Mobile 6.5 announcement would receive an offical upgrade.
So there's absolutely no chance Windows Mobile 7 will be available for the HD, only the HD2 and future PDA releases
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You are wrong mate... Microsoft had already stated that no device that was available at the time of the Windows Mobile 6.5 announcement would receive an offical upgrade.
So there's absolutely no chance Windows Mobile 7 will be available for the HD, only the HD2 and future PDA releases
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You have no idea what the dev's in here are capable of...I mean you should know, you have been here longer than I do and I already know what the dev's in here are capable of..Look how the porting of Android is coming along..you'd be impressed once it's completly done.
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You have no idea what the dev's in here are capable of...I mean you should know, you have been here longer than I do and I already know what the dev's in here are capable of..Look how the porting of Android is coming along..you'd be impressed once it's completly done.
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I do not doubt the ability of any of the developers on xda and i am aware of how well the porting of Android is coming along. For your information, I have spoken to a few friends on xda who have been members of the forum longer than I have and carry good knowledge... they have also confirmed this fact and advised me it's unlikely to happen.
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I do not doubt the ability of any of the developers on xda and i am aware of how well the porting of Android is coming along. For your information, I have spoken to a few friends on xda who have been members of the forum longer than I have and carry good knowledge... they have also confirmed this fact and advised me it's unlikely to happen.
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You never know man..At first they thought that they werent going to be able to port Android and look how far they have gone. Wait a couple more years, hopefully at the end of this year..and you are gonna have WM7 on your HD
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So there's absolutely no chance Windows Mobile 7 will be available for the HD, only the HD2 and future PDA releases
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Mastoid is right..!
The biggest glitch is the HD's hardware as it is incompatible with WM7 in that the new OS requires a capacitive (multi-touch) screen.
When hardware restrictions are involved, not even the top XDA members can help.
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Mastoid is right..!
The biggest glitch is the HD's hardware as it is incompatible with WM7 in that the new OS requires a capacitive (multi-touch) screen.
When hardware restrictions are involved, not even the top XDA members can help.
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i knew there were restrictions but i was unsure of what kind exactly. Unfortunately, as you stated, the HD does not support the pinch-to-zoom feature.
Thank you band27.
If you watch the WM7 UI on youtube..you are gonna see them using the touch pro of choice and some other phones to promote windows mobile 7..so it is obvious that touch pro and diamond users are going to have WM7 on their phones too.
EDIT watch it yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MNbmkes8Lc
hello00 said:
If you watch the WM7 UI on youtube..you are gonna see them using the touch pro of choice and some other phones to promote windows mobile 7..so it is obvious that touch pro and diamond users are going to have WM7 on their phones too.
EDIT watch it yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MNbmkes8Lc
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Time will tell as it is now nothing more then a waiting game.
The full capacity of WM7 can only be unleashed through the proper devices. Diamond and touch pros are not these devices and if WM7 makes it to these devices in some shape way or form, it will be interesting....
The argument in question was specifically dealing with whether or not the HD could support Windows Mobile 7 - it has been justified that it cannot due to hardware requirements... i rest my case.
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The argument in question was specifically dealing with whether or not the HD could support Windows Mobile 7 - it has been justified that it cannot due to hardware requirements... i rest my case.
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You have not made a valid argument yet you have some weird standards of what it means to have the "hardware requirements" then.
Touch Pro has 528 MHz so does the Diamond, HD, Xperia X1, and the TP2. Devices with 528Mhz and above, are ABLE to run Windows Mobile 7. Enough said ^^
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Touch Pro has 528 MHz so does the Diamond, HD, Xperia X1, and the TP2. Devices with 528Mhz and above, are ABLE to run Windows Mobile 7. Enough said ^^
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just that you're not unleashing W7's potential.
It's just like having a 1GHz Snapdragon processor, which supports HD videos, on a currently-officially-running-under-Windows-Mobile-6.5 HD2 , or if this is unclear, another example: running Windows 7 on a PC with 200Mhz processor and not-touchable-monitor
here's a major requirement that HD not fulfilled:
Touch: Multi-touch required
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unless you provide resistive multi-touch software and reconfigure our HDs and so on.
WM7 will not be coming to the HD officially or unoffically, case closed....some of XDA's wonder developes may be able to get some builds working on HD, but these will be limited and you will never see wm7's full potential. It would like having a ferrari, but being restricted to 1st gear and 30 miles an hour. May look nice on the HD, but whats the point of having it
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