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Excerpt from a PM sent to FCW from me....
One quick question though... Why is it on EVERY SINGLE titanium rom does touching "phone" on the titanium list show the last missed call, but then you'd think touching it again would show you those calls, but instead it shows you the dang dialer?
That just doesn't make sense. You'd think it would do like what the right soft key does (view).
Yes, it says "phone" on the titanium screen, but I can press the green button to bring up the dialer which is way easier to do, (and gets MUCH less use than the previous calls log ((dialing is kinda touchy))). Instead of saying "phone" in titanium, it should say "Call List" and offer what the view button does. I don't know how many times a day I peck the phone button on titanium then have to fumble for the right soft key to get to the recent calls log.
I think if you were to implement this feature, the WHOLE developer community would follow suit.
BTW all, I've tried editing the Titanium_240x320.cpr whatever files. I can change the link names, but not what they do.
Any ideas?
Nonsense...
Touch it to bring up the phone and call the first contact wit a lil red arrow saying HEY this contact calls you and you didnt answer call it back!!!!
or Just--- HEY a missed cal you say, i dont wnat to call right now so i just gonna tap in the softkey view and then close the missed calls screen....
If that is the meaning of change the tap app... just remove the buttons on your hermes.
I am using the standard tf3d. I am having serious problems in order to navigate through any of the lists such as the contacts list or calls list. First the scroll bar is far too small in order to select it easy with a finger. I also hate that it right starts calling a person in case I first hit a contact in order to scroll through the list. Sometimes I need to press more then once in order to have the item selected.
How can I change the config such that I get rid of this annoying problems?
Don't mess with the scroll bar. Just slide your finger across the list. If your problem is that sometimes it selects an item instead of scrolling, then just keep practicing and it will happen less. Try moving your finger up and down to move the list around.
Why can't I configure it such (like Iphone) that I can select an item an whipe my finger without that it directly calls the contact? I want it to perform a call to the contact just after selecting the item for a longer while. Is there a GUI available for the TP2 which performs like the Iphone GUI?
try to remove useless items such as weather,stock and other ****s.
i have only 4 items in my touchflo3d,dont need to scroll,just click one of them.
do you really need all items in touchflo3d??????
The problem is not the tf3d.. it sounds to me like you just arent used the resistive screen.. the screens on these phones require a slight amount of pressure to work properly, as opposed to the iphone screen which is a capacitive screen which works off the electricity from you body therefore you barely have to touch the screen.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen .. so if you are used to a capacitive screen, getting used to a resistive screen will take some time.. every time i let someone who has ( or has used) an iphone, use my phone they have the same problem.. and it makes my phone looks like crap until i explain to them how it works... resistive screens are more precise when it comes to pinpointing on a screen but capacitive is way more fluid and finger friendly.. I could be wrong in your case but the problem you are having happens all the time when people use my phone..
Dear all,
Is there any way to add a confirmation dialog for the number I am dialing from my Touch Pro2? I have accidentally dialed a few calls when I touch the contact quick links on my home page, and when I scroll through the call history or my contact list. I notice that this is a common problem for quite a few people but I have not been able to find a solution. Note that I am NOT asking for screening locking.
Thank you very much.
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I have never made an accidental call...
You can always block your device
This is not about blocking. I have S2U2 installed and there is no pocket dialing or anything like that. What I am talking about is that when I look through my call history, scroll through my contact list or quick contact links, my finger action may not be a perfect scroll action to the phone so it start dialing right away.
I am new to the forum and can not post links here but if you google "touch pro2 dial confirmation", or "touch pro2 accidental dialing", this is a common problem, at least to new touchphone users.
I'm not a new touchphone user, and I completely know/agree with what you are talking about.
thank god. I thought it was me. For the first two weeks of owning this phone I actually would tell people who called me or that I called "I just bought a brand new phone so if you get a phone call from me and I do not leave a voice mail, it it because I dailed you by accident, sorry". Pretty embarressing especially for a business phone.
It is my first touch phone, but still .....
When you are on phone, do not try to scroll through recent call, especially with the keyboard up. And do not try to do it one handed, where you use your thumb to scroll. It doesn't work for me. My thumb is terrible at scrolling.
I then I don't realize that I am already on the phone screen and press the phone button.
Really cannot figure out all the ways I accidentally call someone. And it has mostly stopped. But still ....
I can usually press "End Call" before it starts ringing on the other end. But I agree that since the scroll gesture, and pressing to select/call are almost the same gesture, there should be a confirmation screen. Or they should make a scroll bar on the side (but that might clutter things up).
I have the same problem, and the end call button is to slow to stop the call. Calling happens so fast that even if I press the end call button immediately it rings at least once.
I've had touch phones for years.... This is just something you get used to. It will happen regardless of whether you are using an Iphone, Windows Phone etc etc.
You just have to be carefull I suppose, no other way around it. You would get very tired of having to confirm EVERY call you make I would think. I dont get any "accidental" calls any more. I havnt for years actually. It's just a matter of training your gestures I would think. When scrolling dont push your finger on a contact and hold it there but start at the bottom or top of the screen and start swiping your finger down (or up) before your finger touches the screen. The only time you get a "accidental" press would be if you start by pressing your finger down and leaving it there a second or ending with your finger on a contact for a second or so.
I'm somehow able to leave my finger on a contact and swipe up or down and it doesnt select the contact untill I actually hold my finger there so. It must just be a way you guys are doing whatever it is you are doing.
That's my two cents though!
I guess people get over this problem sooner or later so xda-developers, who are certainly experienced users of touch phones, do not feel a need to add such a confirmation box.
Anyway, confirmation box is not the only way to prevent accidental dialing. For example, if pressing end-call in 2 seconds actually stops dialing, I do not mind waiting 2 extra seconds for each call. Right now, even immediate end-call cannot stop a call.
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I have the same problem, and the end call button is to slow to stop the call. Calling happens so fast that even if I press the end call button immediately it rings at least once.
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I just noticed something, in Advanced Config, under "Phone", there is an item "End Call Delay". Its set to 3 seconds by default, which seems like a long time to delay ending the call. I've just changed it to 1 second, and going to see how that works out.
Advanced Config is here, if you don't already have it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
I must have had at least 50 accidental calls in the last month. Everytime I scroll through my recent history it somehow takes it like I clicked on a number to call...
can somebody please make a fix where I can click YES OR NO right before I make a call.. or maybe a 5 second timer with a cancel button before a call..
thanks a lot!!
btw.
i had an android and i used to use google voice so it would prevent accidently calling someone
google voice app for android has a message that pops up when you make a call that asks which number to use for the call (google voice, or phone)
something like that would work nice
Another thing that might be worth considering is tweaking the amount of pressure required with a touch to simulate a click. If you can find a sweet spot where you're able to select an item when you need to, and scrolling is still possible, could be worth a look. I think I've seen reg entries or tweaking programs that cover this, though it is possible they were for different HTC models, and perhaps ours doesn't register varying amounts of pressure? In which case, is it possible to alter how long you need to press on an item before a click is registered?
Not an answer re. wanting call confirmation, I realise, but something to consider, possibly.
I have the same issue with accidentally dialing numbers. Android has an app, think it's called "Confirm Call". A similar Windows Mobile app would be appreciated and used by many.
The trick is, to apply even pressure to the screen when scrolling up or down. Try not to let your finger press and release to quickly.
I find there are a number times when navigation is problematic on WP7, caused by a few design issues:
- there being a back button but no forward button
- apps always start from home page when loaded from the home screen
- IE relies on the hardware back button and you can lose your navigation history if you leave IE, go back in and try to navigate back.
I think most WP7 users will know what I'm talking about.
My question is - do people think the Mango update with multitasking will solve this? I can't see enough detail in the online demos to be sure, but I would hope that it does get around these issues.
I'm sure that with Mango's fast app switcher (the new tap-and-hold back button) you will have much more flexibility than today.
But, I'm not sure what you mean by "you lose your navigation history" in IE. Even if I back out of IE, when I go back in, tap the favorites icon, and flick to the History pivot, I still see all of the pages I visited in the list. Maybe I am doing something different, or else I am misunderstanding your problem.
i think he meant...
1: go browse using ie, and visit several pages by following links
2: press windows key to go back to homescreen
3: launch ie again (through its tile, not the back button)
4: history gone. you'll be back to the last page you were visiting, but that's it. if you press the back button, it'll take you out of ie and into the homescreen.
this annoys me as well.
Website A,
click link to B,
check emails,
return to IE (via back button),
on website B,
want to go back to A: not possible via back button
It is unintuitive to open favorites(!) then change to history only to go one site backwards.
Yep that's the scenario exactly.
I checked what Android does because it has a very similar setup of a hardware back button. However, they get it right and the solution is very simple.
On Android when you go back into the browser, the hardware back button takes you back through browser history until there is no more history. Then the next press takes you back in the application screen history. I only tried it quickly but it seems to solve the problem that WP7 exhibits.
I think the only foolproof option is like iOS where the back button is onscreen and part of the application. The downside is that it clutters up the display a lot. When I use an iPhone now the actual screen space for the application seems very small.
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- apps always start from home page when loaded from the home screen
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That's changing in Mango. Developers will be able to allow users to pin pages in their app to the home screen not just the app itself.
The example shown at MIX11 was that if we create a News app which has a world news page, a country specific news page and a financial page (for example); the user could then pin the financial page to the start screen.
There is no limit on the amount of tiles per app, so the user could chose to pin all three pages to their start screen. Clicking on any of these tiles would take them straight to the page of interest not the main page.
Of course, this requires app developers to implement the new tiles in their app (but it's not difficult).
Casey
That is interesting, although you're talking more about linking within an app, where sometimes the issue is more about remembering state i.e. reloading an app and it being back on the page you were on.
To be fair, support for this on iOS is patchy, some apps do it and some don't. And the MS guidelines specifically say that the app must restart from home when loaded from a tile. I wonder if this was in preparation for the multitasking features, although I will still like to be able to use a tile to launch an already-running (tombstoned) app and have it take me back to where I was when I left it. From what I've seen of Android, it does this.
Not sure what everyone is complaining about the back button and IE since it's actually pretty consistent with desktop browser experience. When you close your browser and open it up again, you don't get to press back.
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Not sure what everyone is complaining about the back button and IE since it's actually pretty consistent with desktop browser experience. When you close your browser and open it up again, you don't get to press back.
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that's the point. in your phone you don't close your brower (by pressing back back until you're at the homescreen, you just press the middle button to pull up the home screen). in my desktop I can have 10 browers open, and still open my e-mail without disturbing my browers.
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that's the point. in your phone you don't close your brower (by pressing back back until you're at the homescreen, you just press the middle button to pull up the home screen). in my desktop I can have 10 browers open, and still open my e-mail without disturbing my browers.
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Do I remember correctly that tabbed browsing is coming with IE9/Mango, and said tabs will be in the multitasking screen? I guess it could very well start working more like you described?
We will see in 2 days hopefully.
dtboos said:
Do I remember correctly that tabbed browsing is coming with IE9/Mango, and said tabs will be in the multitasking screen? I guess it could very well start working more like you described?
We will see in 2 days hopefully.
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That's interesting actually if they do that I can see it helping. Proving that when returning to a browser page, you can still use the back button to work the browser rather than just jumping back to where you were before.
If they're gonna carry on with the back button doing special stuff in the browser, they need to implement the Android trick of the back button going back through browser history until the start, then going back through application screen history.
...or maybe I'm too much of a noob to know how to do it in Android.
I'm on NardRom 0.2...
ALL NOTIFICATIONS: The BB had this screen which gave you a full history of every action, whether its an SMS you've received, an email you've sent, an app you've installed. It's a one page with everything (and its not threaded). In the Android notification screen, you see that you've gotten 6 emails, but it does not show them separately. Also, it does not show emails that you have sent.
MAGNIFYING GLASS: In the iOS when you have typed a word, you can hold down the screen and wait for the magnifying glass that helps you move exactly to the letter you want to change.
RECONFIGURE BUTTONS: The hard buttons (capacative I think they're called). I want to configure them for when I press them once as well as holding them down.
CLEAR FIELD: In the BB, you can just click on a field and then clear it all out.
LOCK: The screen locks itself and you have to do a bit of a drag to unlock. This can get tedious. I get the need for the pattern security feature but its probably not necessary to drag unlock every time I switch on the phone.
TAP TO TOP: On the iPhone, you can click the time status bar on the top and it scrolls all the way to the top of the page.
If you now of an alternate way to do this, it would be really great to know!
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MAGNIFYING GLASS: In the iOS when you have typed a word, you can hold down the screen and wait for the magnifying glass that helps you move exactly to the letter you want to change.
CLEAR FIELD: In the BB, you can just click on a field and then clear it all out.
LOCK: The screen locks itself and you have to do a bit of a drag to unlock. This can get tedious. I get the need for the pattern security feature but its probably not necessary to drag unlock every time I switch on the phone.
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Instead of the magnifying glass, we have a little blue handle. Tap roughly where you want the cursor and it should show up below the text, and you can drag it wherever you want it. I attached a pic to clarify. To clear a text field, you can always long-press it and cut the text, though that's not the best solution it certainly beats holding backspace.
You can change the lock screen to be a simple slide to unlock, similar to the iphone, or even no unlock screen, where tapping the power button unlocks the device. It's in settings > security > screen lock. Additionally, if you're using the phone and the screen turns off while your reading something, if you tap the power button relatively quickly, it will unlock without any unlock screen.
You do realize that the little magnifying glass and tap to top would certainly cause moar patent trolling from apple, right?
Also, I'm pretty sure you can get detailed notifications on Android too, but there must be a reason no one has come up with it just yet. My guess: it's because we're OK with our notifications as they are.
On ics I see my emails separately on the notification screen.
Sent from my SGH-I927 using xda app-developers app
I miss having to ssh files onto my iPhone because I couldn't mount it as a drive
I miss having to trick my iPhone into accepting custom notification tones
I miss having to bend over backwards to hack a single neutered widget onto my homescreen
I miss having to spawn a billion blank icons to arrange my icons the way I wanted them (I.e. not upper left justified)
I miss having to go to a centralized settings app to change app settings
There's probably more. I just miss my iPhone 3G so darn much.
carpediem said:
ALL NOTIFICATIONS: The BB had this screen which gave you a full history of every action, whether its an SMS you've received, an email you've sent, an app you've installed. It's a one page with everything (and its not threaded). In the Android notification screen, you see that you've gotten 6 emails, but it does not show them separately. Also, it does not show emails that you have sent.
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Assuming you're using the gmail app, open it up, click menu > settings. Go to your account, Ringtone & Vibrate, and uncheck the notify once box. Back out one menu, go to Manage labels. Click on each label you want to receive individual email notifications for, and uncheck the notify once box there as well. You'll now have individual notifications for every email, instead of just a counter when you have more than one.
You can also set Sent mails to sync here, however it won't show them as notifications as sent mails are automatically marked as read. Still, this means if you don't have a data connection you can browse through all of your recent sent mails. If you're frequently without data and need to view previous mails, change the number of days to sync to something larger than the default, which I believe is 3 day. I use 30 days, personally.
I don't use the other email app for non-gmail, but I'd assume it would have a similar setting for notifications. It's not a complete notification history, but sounds like it's one step closer to what you want for your email.