I am using the standard tf3d. I am having serious problems in order to navigate through any of the lists such as the contacts list or calls list. First the scroll bar is far too small in order to select it easy with a finger. I also hate that it right starts calling a person in case I first hit a contact in order to scroll through the list. Sometimes I need to press more then once in order to have the item selected.
How can I change the config such that I get rid of this annoying problems?
Don't mess with the scroll bar. Just slide your finger across the list. If your problem is that sometimes it selects an item instead of scrolling, then just keep practicing and it will happen less. Try moving your finger up and down to move the list around.
Why can't I configure it such (like Iphone) that I can select an item an whipe my finger without that it directly calls the contact? I want it to perform a call to the contact just after selecting the item for a longer while. Is there a GUI available for the TP2 which performs like the Iphone GUI?
try to remove useless items such as weather,stock and other ****s.
i have only 4 items in my touchflo3d,dont need to scroll,just click one of them.
do you really need all items in touchflo3d??????
The problem is not the tf3d.. it sounds to me like you just arent used the resistive screen.. the screens on these phones require a slight amount of pressure to work properly, as opposed to the iphone screen which is a capacitive screen which works off the electricity from you body therefore you barely have to touch the screen.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen .. so if you are used to a capacitive screen, getting used to a resistive screen will take some time.. every time i let someone who has ( or has used) an iphone, use my phone they have the same problem.. and it makes my phone looks like crap until i explain to them how it works... resistive screens are more precise when it comes to pinpointing on a screen but capacitive is way more fluid and finger friendly.. I could be wrong in your case but the problem you are having happens all the time when people use my phone..
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i got my hands on the new instinct phone , when u scroll through buttons or different items on the screen, like for example scroll through a list or select a different item the phone shakes slightly so u can kind of feel the buttons, i know that that has to be some kind of tweak involving the vibration function, is it possible for someone to create a program that utilizes the dashes vibration in this manner
they have that because the instinct is a touchscreen phone with no tactile feed back...the dash has buttons....so im not even sure if thats even possible....if it is....it'd be annoying. lol.
NOTIFICATION BAR scrolling down without touching it: Static Electr & Capacitive Scrns
I would like to know if anyone else has experienced this at least once. I didn't post here as a thread til I got confirmation from one other DESIRE user that this has happened to him as well.
I don't know the exact triggers or even the exact scenarios, but this has happened several times to me already:
I am using the phone in horizontal mode and tapping menu items or inputting text, and my finger is nowhere even close to the Notification Bar at top of screen -- and yet suddenly the Notification Bar will auto-scroll down, interrupting what I was doing. Repeated times. It would happen again, with no accidental slippage of my finger or anything. My finger would be nowhere near the bar.
I am wondering if there is any kind of static electricity effect with capacitive screens that can set off a menu action.
So I am asking the experts here. Is that possible? Is it anything that was reported with the Nexus One?
RELATED (1): After this happened a few time in ONE SESSION using the phone -- it happened to be while uploading videos to YouTube, I wanted to test to see if I moved my finger close to the Notification Bar would this perhaps trigger this auto-scroll-down. So I moved my finger just slightly above the surface of the glass at the Notification Bar, and it didn't make it scroll down, but on this occasion, it set off a kind of jumpiness whereby the notification bar was rapidly shifting up and down a few pixels, as though it was receiving input. Has anyone seen this happen? I have not yet been able to get this to repeat from that session of using the phone a few days ago. I was lying down on my bed, and I'm pretty sure sheets produce a lot of static electricity, so this is my layman's question. Is there some causal effect here?
RELATED (2): A variation on this problem would be where I am actually trying to select a menu choice, and instead of my finger-press activating the menu item, instead the menu item jumps up slightly, and does not get selected.
This, again, happened when I was in ALBUM MODE, watched a video in horizontal display, then tapped-and-held the video to bring up the context menu that includes various SHARE options. One of those options is YouTube (the last item of the menu). I would try to select "YouTube" but the menu jumped upwards slightly, and wouldn't get selected.
I have been able to reproduce this one (Related 2) today, days later, in totally different environment .
So, a bunch of questions:
1. Is there such a thing as a static electricity effect that confuses the screen?
2. Are there other kinds of known screen-response problems that could be at play here?
3. Is this something that sounds like "it's defective so return it", or is this a somewhat common experience, sporadically?
the only time I've had that happen to me is when I use a cheap charger I've got and yeah the screen just skitses out. I am using a hero tho but this is the first time I've seen anyone else encounter this so I thought il'd churp in.
I had something similar only once.
The notification bar went mad. It was flicking up and down constantly without me touching the phone at all.
I had to pull the battery to fix the problem.
Hasn't happened since.
Fon22
Happened to me also when loading a ROM in Nesoid.
So I'm not sensing any concerns re; any defect... but still wondering, since I don't know the physics of capacitive screens... Is static electricity the culprit? Never happened once on my GSM HERO... so something is at play here.. or is it an intermittent defect that rarely shows up?
quicksite said:
So I'm not sensing any concerns re; any defect... but still wondering, since I don't know the physics of capacitive screens... Is static electricity the culprit? Never happened once on my GSM HERO... so something is at play here.. or is it an intermittent defect that rarely shows up?
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The capacitive touch screens work by detecting a disturbance in the EM field on the glass surface. There's a few ways to do it, I think the way mobile phones are doing this is to put a field of their own over the glass and detect fingers on the surface based on what levels of the field they'd expect to see at different points around the screen, and doing some comparisons on what levels are actually detected.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong BTW.
I've noticed this notification bar problem today and yesterday. Lucky I at least saw how I caused it. My finger was to close to the top right of the screen because of the way I was holding the handset. That combined with the lacklustre multi-touch support on this handset made the phone detect it as a finger swipe that rapidly moved downwards.
I've always had similar problems with capacitative and inductive touch technologies. I don't actually need to touch the desires screen to activate a touch. The worsted was the Zen Micro with the touch controls. I could activate that thing from about 10-15mm away. The touch on-off-dimming lamps too. I usually cycle those through all their light levels with a single touch. Where as my brother actually struggles to activate those, really has to press his hand down hard on them.
Brilliant, Alex... You got right inside my head and answered exactly what i was trying to ask.... the physics of the system.
I'm okay with little glitches here and there, and I am sure I will learn to avoid proximity issues that tend to trigger these mis-fires... just as I learned to adjust my tap-key behavior in typing on the on-screen keyboard on capacitive screen vs all the resistive screens I had used before on Windows Mobile, where fingernails could & would engage the resistive screen -- vs learning that the bottom surface of the finger has to make contact on the keys on capacitive screen... (sorry i am USA and we still resist the world's metric standard, so i don't know the equivalent distance in cm,)... but it's over a 1/4-inch of an upward shift in the position of one's fingers above the capacitive screen from the tip of the fingernail.
But once you train your senses to activate the keys sensors properly, the finger impact behaviors of resistive screens goes away after a while (at least for me)
(oh, btw, I ordered the new HTC capacitive stylus which is a couple of months old now, but is an official DESIRE accessory, so that will be an interesting experience... the thing i miss most about the resistive screen and stylus was being able to scribble notes really fast, way faster than i could ever type -- and draw pretty detailed images or maps and directuions for people. so it will be interesting to see the granularity of control the capacitive stylus will give)
So thanks very much for giving me the exact level of detail I can process as a lay person.. and for assuring me, as the rest of you have as well, that this apparently comes with the territory of this phone -- and therefore should not be seen as a defect. Because i sure as hell didn't want to go shipping this phone back. I can live with an occasional spazzoid misread of intended impact spot on screen...
And, fnally, this was funny -- re the different degree of touch we all consider "normal" --
The touch on-off-dimming lamps too. I usually cycle those through all their light levels with a single touch. Where as my brother actually struggles to activate those, really has to press his hand down hard on them.
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thanks!
Alex_w said:
The capacitive touch screens work by detecting a disturbance in the EM field on the glass surface. There's a few ways to do it, I think the way mobile phones are doing this is to put a field of their own over the glass and detect fingers on the surface based on what levels of the field they'd expect to see at different points around the screen, and doing some comparisons on what levels are actually detected.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong BTW.
I've noticed this notification bar problem today and yesterday. Lucky I at least saw how I caused it. My finger was to close to the top right of the screen because of the way I was holding the handset. That combined with the lacklustre multi-touch support on this handset made the phone detect it as a finger swipe that rapidly moved downwards.
I've always had similar problems with capacitative and inductive touch technologies. I don't actually need to touch the desires screen to activate a touch. The worsted was the Zen Micro with the touch controls. I could activate that thing from about 10-15mm away. The touch on-off-dimming lamps too. I usually cycle those through all their light levels with a single touch. Where as my brother actually struggles to activate those, really has to press his hand down hard on them.
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I was thinking it is softwarerelated. The bar remains halfway the screen, is in the layer below the active app, and jumps to front upon touching the screen.
I have the Problem, too. And that since Monday. I went mad since yesterday evening so i tried to go back to stock, unroot and all.
But the problem is still there.
How can i fix it? Or is my Phone damaged?!
The Notification Bar scrolls down without touching the display and then freezes the phone. so i must lock the phone and relock it and then i can use the phone but after a short time the same problem came back!!
So I reckon you're an undertaker for a living?
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2
erklat said:
So I reckon you're an undertaker for a living?
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Sorry but i don't understand what you mean
The problem makes me crazy because i have now the stock rom because i thougt it was an issue due a custom rom or a kernel or something.
If you can help me please do that, this problem robs me to sleep
But i havent the Desire. I Have the HTC EVO 3D GSM
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Sorry but i don't understand what you mean
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lol digging up the dead
Sent from my HTC Desire
Sorry but I do not understand the background of your information which is in context with my problem of the notification bar.
@19Marc89 He meant that you responded to a an old (dead) post. Listen, I'm trying to recondition an old Motorola Milestone (Droid) with a crazy touchscreen problem, whose cause I believe I've narrowed down to static electricity - can you do me a favor and try stroking the glass side of the phone lengthwise in one direction down your sleeve, preferably if you have a wool sweater on? Call me crazy, but this works for me, at least temporarily. I posted more here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1041943&page=5
install gravitybox. go to >statusbar tweaks>disable peek. click it. problem solved!
quicksite said:
I would like to know if anyone else has experienced this at least once. I didn't post here as a thread til I got confirmation from one other DESIRE user that this has happened to him as well.
I don't know the exact triggers or even the exact scenarios, but this has happened several times to me already:
I am using the phone in horizontal mode and tapping menu items or inputting text, and my finger is nowhere even close to the Notification Bar at top of screen -- and yet suddenly the Notification Bar will auto-scroll down, interrupting what I was doing. Repeated times. It would happen again, with no accidental slippage of my finger or anything. My finger would be nowhere near the bar.
I am wondering if there is any kind of static electricity effect with capacitive screens that can set off a menu action.
So I am asking the experts here. Is that possible? Is it anything that was reported with the Nexus One?
RELATED (1): After this happened a few time in ONE SESSION using the phone -- it happened to be while uploading videos to YouTube, I wanted to test to see if I moved my finger close to the Notification Bar would this perhaps trigger this auto-scroll-down. So I moved my finger just slightly above the surface of the glass at the Notification Bar, and it didn't make it scroll down, but on this occasion, it set off a kind of jumpiness whereby the notification bar was rapidly shifting up and down a few pixels, as though it was receiving input. Has anyone seen this happen? I have not yet been able to get this to repeat from that session of using the phone a few days ago. I was lying down on my bed, and I'm pretty sure sheets produce a lot of static electricity, so this is my layman's question. Is there some causal effect here?
RELATED (2): A variation on this problem would be where I am actually trying to select a menu choice, and instead of my finger-press activating the menu item, instead the menu item jumps up slightly, and does not get selected.
This, again, happened when I was in ALBUM MODE, watched a video in horizontal display, then tapped-and-held the video to bring up the context menu that includes various SHARE options. One of those options is YouTube (the last item of the menu). I would try to select "YouTube" but the menu jumped upwards slightly, and wouldn't get selected.
I have been able to reproduce this one (Related 2) today, days later, in totally different environment .
So, a bunch of questions:
1. Is there such a thing as a static electricity effect that confuses the screen?
2. Are there other kinds of known screen-response problems that could be at play here?
3. Is this something that sounds like "it's defective so return it", or is this a somewhat common experience, sporadically?
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install gravitybox. go to >statusbar tweaks>disable peek. click it. problem solved!
I know I am many years late but did you somehow manage to solve this problem?
Dear all,
Is there any way to add a confirmation dialog for the number I am dialing from my Touch Pro2? I have accidentally dialed a few calls when I touch the contact quick links on my home page, and when I scroll through the call history or my contact list. I notice that this is a common problem for quite a few people but I have not been able to find a solution. Note that I am NOT asking for screening locking.
Thank you very much.
Welcome to forums
I have never made an accidental call...
You can always block your device
This is not about blocking. I have S2U2 installed and there is no pocket dialing or anything like that. What I am talking about is that when I look through my call history, scroll through my contact list or quick contact links, my finger action may not be a perfect scroll action to the phone so it start dialing right away.
I am new to the forum and can not post links here but if you google "touch pro2 dial confirmation", or "touch pro2 accidental dialing", this is a common problem, at least to new touchphone users.
I'm not a new touchphone user, and I completely know/agree with what you are talking about.
thank god. I thought it was me. For the first two weeks of owning this phone I actually would tell people who called me or that I called "I just bought a brand new phone so if you get a phone call from me and I do not leave a voice mail, it it because I dailed you by accident, sorry". Pretty embarressing especially for a business phone.
It is my first touch phone, but still .....
When you are on phone, do not try to scroll through recent call, especially with the keyboard up. And do not try to do it one handed, where you use your thumb to scroll. It doesn't work for me. My thumb is terrible at scrolling.
I then I don't realize that I am already on the phone screen and press the phone button.
Really cannot figure out all the ways I accidentally call someone. And it has mostly stopped. But still ....
I can usually press "End Call" before it starts ringing on the other end. But I agree that since the scroll gesture, and pressing to select/call are almost the same gesture, there should be a confirmation screen. Or they should make a scroll bar on the side (but that might clutter things up).
I have the same problem, and the end call button is to slow to stop the call. Calling happens so fast that even if I press the end call button immediately it rings at least once.
I've had touch phones for years.... This is just something you get used to. It will happen regardless of whether you are using an Iphone, Windows Phone etc etc.
You just have to be carefull I suppose, no other way around it. You would get very tired of having to confirm EVERY call you make I would think. I dont get any "accidental" calls any more. I havnt for years actually. It's just a matter of training your gestures I would think. When scrolling dont push your finger on a contact and hold it there but start at the bottom or top of the screen and start swiping your finger down (or up) before your finger touches the screen. The only time you get a "accidental" press would be if you start by pressing your finger down and leaving it there a second or ending with your finger on a contact for a second or so.
I'm somehow able to leave my finger on a contact and swipe up or down and it doesnt select the contact untill I actually hold my finger there so. It must just be a way you guys are doing whatever it is you are doing.
That's my two cents though!
I guess people get over this problem sooner or later so xda-developers, who are certainly experienced users of touch phones, do not feel a need to add such a confirmation box.
Anyway, confirmation box is not the only way to prevent accidental dialing. For example, if pressing end-call in 2 seconds actually stops dialing, I do not mind waiting 2 extra seconds for each call. Right now, even immediate end-call cannot stop a call.
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I have the same problem, and the end call button is to slow to stop the call. Calling happens so fast that even if I press the end call button immediately it rings at least once.
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I just noticed something, in Advanced Config, under "Phone", there is an item "End Call Delay". Its set to 3 seconds by default, which seems like a long time to delay ending the call. I've just changed it to 1 second, and going to see how that works out.
Advanced Config is here, if you don't already have it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
I must have had at least 50 accidental calls in the last month. Everytime I scroll through my recent history it somehow takes it like I clicked on a number to call...
can somebody please make a fix where I can click YES OR NO right before I make a call.. or maybe a 5 second timer with a cancel button before a call..
thanks a lot!!
btw.
i had an android and i used to use google voice so it would prevent accidently calling someone
google voice app for android has a message that pops up when you make a call that asks which number to use for the call (google voice, or phone)
something like that would work nice
Another thing that might be worth considering is tweaking the amount of pressure required with a touch to simulate a click. If you can find a sweet spot where you're able to select an item when you need to, and scrolling is still possible, could be worth a look. I think I've seen reg entries or tweaking programs that cover this, though it is possible they were for different HTC models, and perhaps ours doesn't register varying amounts of pressure? In which case, is it possible to alter how long you need to press on an item before a click is registered?
Not an answer re. wanting call confirmation, I realise, but something to consider, possibly.
I have the same issue with accidentally dialing numbers. Android has an app, think it's called "Confirm Call". A similar Windows Mobile app would be appreciated and used by many.
The trick is, to apply even pressure to the screen when scrolling up or down. Try not to let your finger press and release to quickly.
I'm not sure if this is something that's already been observed, but it's certainly not something I've seen in any of the One X's promotional material.
Essentially, the touch screen seems to actually extend to below the screen, encompassing all the buttons. That is, the buttons actually aren't discrete tap zones, but rather part of the digitizer that simply doesn't have a screen behind it.
This can be seen on the (stock) lock screen, where you can pull down the ring, and still manipulate it's position while your finger's over the top of the buttons.
Anyway, I'm not sure if there's any practical way that this can be used (not being a developer myself), but it does seem like it could be used for gestures, as we saw a few years ago on the Palm Pre.
It was like this on my DHD too. It's awesome for games as long as you don't tap while swiping across the home button.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
This is the behaviour I've seen on almost every android-phone I've had.
Its because the whole front panel is a digitizer so instead of manufacturing separate parts for the buttons they can cut costs and make one part.
Noticed this when I scrolled past the bottom of the screen while picking music to listen to. Bloody nice feature, I've never seen a phone do that before. It's also neat because it seems that when I drag up from the bottom to close the notification bar, the phone knows that I hit the home button but that I meant to drag the notification bar up, so I don't accidentally go to the homescreen.
I had noticed this soon after getting my HOX. It's really handy, though I wouldn't really call it a feature.
After installing a new display module on my OP5T, I noticed something weird. The display seems to be perfect, either original or a very good one. Bright, perfect color, no issues with it whatsoever. I've tested it in multiple apps (like Draw on screen) and it works perfectly, recognizing every input, never interrupting the line while I drag. All the buttons I press on the screen in apps work perfectly. When typing letter never gets missed.
However, it does have a SLIGHLY less sensitive touch. Like, if you very lightly tap it with a finger, it won't register, while before, it would. The difference really is miniscule. I usually wouldn't tap that lightly on it either way. However, it works up to be an annoyance, because now certain "swipe left-right" actions lack a certain "inertia" to them, which I think is because of this.
Like, before, to move around the launcher screens, I would just swipe sideways lightly and carelessly and it would switch to the next screen, now it will start moving and roll back. To make sure I switch a screen I have to apply effort with my finger. Same thing with opening notifications or app drawer.
Is this a hardware issue? Faulty touch? Or can I just increase sensitivity a bit with some software tweaking?
dude i am also in the same boat. Did u by any chance buy the replacement screen from lcdbaba?